| 00:15.25 | rphillips | I want to try building my qtopia app for openzaurus... is there a document anywhere telling me how to do this? |
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| 01:41.11 | Ikkakujyu | You know. |
| 01:41.26 | Ikkakujyu | One of the things we need to get running on the Z is Podzilla. |
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| 07:37.41 | SirSpic2 | hey anyone around? |
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| 08:11.38 | b0ti|work | SirSpic2: i'm around |
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| 09:01.57 | lardman | morning all |
| 09:02.28 | lardman | b0ti|work: the cfu1 driver in your ipk feed was corrupted when I downloaded it (twice) |
| 09:04.55 | lardman | b0ti|work: It has a funny header before the normal !<arch> one |
| 09:05.02 | b0ti|work | lardman: lemme check |
| 09:06.31 | b0ti|work | what header? |
| 09:06.44 | lardman | hexeditor |
| 09:06.46 | b0ti|work | the file looks okay: |
| 09:06.47 | b0ti|work | # file cfu1-driver_2.6-r0_c7x0.ipk |
| 09:06.47 | b0ti|work | cfu1-driver_2.6-r0_c7x0.ipk: Debian binary package (format 2.0) |
| 09:07.00 | lardman | hmm, I get the following: |
| 09:07.58 | lardman | damn, was going to copy and paste, but it all comes out as hex |
| 09:09.01 | lardman | It says: Content-Encoding: blah-blah-blah !<arch>.debian-binary/ |
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| 09:09.52 | lardman | and it should start !<arch> iirc |
| 09:11.21 | b0ti|work | heh, then that's your DL client. |
| 09:11.24 | lardman | Looks like something to do with your web-server and my client (Firefox), and firefox not being able to accept |
| 09:11.48 | b0ti|work | clear your cache too |
| 09:13.02 | lardman | Same thing with IE6 (clear cache), just trying Firefox again |
| 09:14.02 | lardman | same thing with firefox |
| 09:14.15 | lardman | can you try downloading it yourself and tell me which client works |
| 09:15.24 | b0ti|work | ok, will check |
| 09:15.43 | lardman | Just tried wget on Linux box and it reports the downloaded file (using file) as being of type: data |
| 09:16.52 | lardman | It looks like it's just that file - I can download others (with firefox) and they are just ..<!arch> files |
| 09:17.15 | b0ti|work | did you check the other ipks there? Same thing? |
| 09:17.32 | b0ti|work | I just downloaded it from my server with galeon, it said: |
| 09:17.33 | b0ti|work | application/x-archiveh |
| 09:17.43 | lardman | Other ipks are fine |
| 09:17.48 | b0ti|work | and the DL-ed file is borked. weird. |
| 09:17.54 | lardman | yep |
| 09:18.05 | lardman | Could you email it to me? |
| 09:18.30 | lardman | if so: s.g.pickering@bath.ac.uk |
| 09:18.33 | lardman | bbiab |
| 09:38.47 | b0ti|work | lardman|bbiab: I fixed the mime handler in my apache. Now it works (need to you clear browser cache). |
| 09:38.57 | b0ti|work | lardman|bbiab: mailed it too, btw. |
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| 10:36.31 | lardman | thanks b0ti|work |
| 10:36.57 | lardman | strace from the feed doesn't work, anyone seen this? |
| 10:38.30 | lardman | (once my Z boots I'll give the error) |
| 10:39.07 | lardman | I've also noticed some irc0mm_tty: Unknown symbols at boot time, I must check to see whether IR works |
| 10:39.31 | hrw|work | 2.6.12-rc? |
| 10:39.37 | lardman | s/irc0mm_tty/ircomm_tty |
| 10:39.40 | lardman | hrw|work: yes |
| 10:39.45 | hrw|work | irda is in module now |
| 10:40.06 | lardman | yep, looks like I need another module to provide the deps |
| 10:40.57 | lardman | With strace I get: syscall: unknown syscall trap 0xe5bcf9a4 |
| 10:41.05 | b0ti|work | lardman: strace worked for me |
| 10:41.16 | lardman | on 2.6.12? |
| 10:41.23 | b0ti|work | yeah. |
| 10:41.26 | lardman | It worked for me on .11 |
| 10:41.42 | lardman | I might just rebuild it rather than using the one from the feed |
| 10:43.03 | lardman | What's the deal with the new bitbake, just do an update as usual? |
| 10:43.10 | b0ti|work | maybe it's your libc or something |
| 10:43.38 | lardman | hmm, shouldn't be, I've used other stuff from the feed without any errors |
| 10:46.16 | lardman | did you build your strace yourself, now that I come to think about it I probably did to |
| 10:46.22 | lardman | perhaps the one in the feed is broken |
| 10:47.01 | SirSpic | hey guys |
| 10:47.46 | SirSpic | would anyone be able to help me with some linux commands for a sec =( i messed up my wifi connection and need to undo what i just did |
| 10:48.38 | lardman | yep, go for it |
| 10:49.17 | SirSpic | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:49.17 | SirSpic | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:49.17 | SirSpic | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:49.38 | SirSpic | then finally... /etc/rc.d/init.d/pcmcia restart |
| 10:49.57 | SirSpic | i was following the instructions on http://www.oesf.org/index.php?title=Wellenreiter_on_Qtopia_based_ROM to setup wellenreiter for my c3000 |
| 10:50.09 | SirSpic | the wifi was working up until i typed those lines of code in |
| 10:50.41 | lardman | just let me take a quick look at the link |
| 10:51.14 | lardman | did you mv/create the hermes.conf file? |
| 10:51.39 | lardman | which card are you using? |
| 10:51.50 | SirSpic | i tried doing that |
| 10:51.54 | SirSpic | but it gave me an error |
| 10:52.09 | SirSpic | i'm using the linksys WCF12 |
| 10:52.14 | AnalogTek | Installed 3.5.3 on akita; trying to update pkg list yields: "ipkg_download: ERROR: Command failed with return value 1: wget -passive-ftp -q -P /tmp/ipkg-jHFjog http://openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.3-snapshot-20050427/feed/opie/Packages.gz". What's wrong and/or what must I do to fix this? |
| 10:53.17 | lardman | SirSpic: I'm dubious about getting rid of hostap |
| 10:53.44 | lardman | SirSpic: I think that step may just be because of the card the chap who wrote the howto was using |
| 10:53.59 | lardman | SirSpic: I'd mv the file back, then continue the rest of the howto |
| 10:54.06 | lardman | SirSpic: Let us know how that goes |
| 10:54.06 | SirSpic | =P i dont know how 2 |
| 10:54.16 | SirSpic | <---pretty newbish with linux |
| 10:54.25 | lardman | SirSpic: :) 'mv .hostap.conf hostap.conf' |
| 10:54.32 | lardman | oops wrong name |
| 10:54.42 | SirSpic | inside the same folder? |
| 10:54.45 | lardman | SirSpic: :) 'mv .wlan-ng.conf wlan-ng.conf' |
| 10:54.54 | lardman | SirSpic: yes |
| 10:55.08 | lardman | AnalogTek: do you use a proxy server? |
| 10:55.29 | AnalogTek | no |
| 10:55.36 | lardman | AnalogTek: Ignore me, look at the URL, it's wrong |
| 10:56.04 | lardman | AnalogTek: Looks like one of the feed files under /etc/ipkg/ (the opie.conf one at least) has had its url changed |
| 10:56.34 | lardman | AnalogTek: Remove the snapshot bit from the URL in the file and try again |
| 10:56.55 | AnalogTek | lardman: ok, thx... |
| 10:56.59 | lardman | s/snapshot bit/the -snapshot-20050427 bit |
| 10:57.11 | SirSpic | it says no such file or directory =/ |
| 10:57.31 | lardman | SirSpic: did you make sure the . was there? |
| 10:58.06 | hrw|work | someone with 3.5.3 here? |
| 10:58.35 | SirSpic | aights lets cross our fingers =) |
| 10:58.53 | lardman | hrw|work: what are you after? |
| 10:59.07 | hrw|work | lardman: ? |
| 10:59.18 | lardman | hrw|work: with 3.5.3? |
| 10:59.27 | hrw|work | lardman: I need someone with pure 3.5.3 (upgrades accepted) to test opie-reader package |
| 10:59.47 | lardman | hrw|work: That rules me out on multiple counts as I'm using GPE :) |
| 11:00.06 | hrw|work | my 3.5.3/opie machine is at home |
| 11:00.10 | lardman | SirSpic: Did the file copy work? |
| 11:00.29 | lardman | hrw|work: Forums? |
| 11:00.58 | hrw|work | lardman: I can put in upgrades feed and forgot about it - but prefer to get someone live |
| 11:01.26 | SirSpic | yup the comp rebooted |
| 11:02.54 | lardman | SirSpic: Right, let us know if you get it working, then the HowTo should be updated to remove the bit about renaming wlan-ng.conf |
| 11:03.04 | AnalogTek | baH! there is nothing in /etc/ipkg |
| 11:03.22 | SirSpic | yay =) |
| 11:03.23 | lardman | AnalogTek: Interesting |
| 11:03.24 | SirSpic | ty lardman |
| 11:03.32 | lardman | SirSpic: np |
| 11:03.51 | lardman | AnalogTek: How did it know where to try downloading from then? |
| 11:04.58 | AnalogTek | aha! |
| 11:05.46 | AnalogTek | URLs are configurable within pkg mgr... will figure out where it stores everything later... no time now. Thanks lardman, SirSpic, et al for the help!! :) |
| 11:06.10 | lardman | AnalogTek: np, should be /etc/ipkg/ or in /etc/ipkg.conf |
| 11:06.52 | AnalogTek | says /etc/ipkg.conf ... |
| 11:07.00 | AnalogTek | success! |
| 11:07.05 | AnalogTek | yay! tyvm! :-) |
| 11:07.31 | AnalogTek | now to start upgrade while I go shower, shave, etc... |
| 11:08.01 | AnalogTek | Bah! SIGSEGV |
| 11:08.26 | lardman | Becareful upgrading that you have enough free disk space |
| 11:09.23 | AnalogTek | yeah, I may be rushing things... may have to wait 'til later (when more time) to config/prep for this. |
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| 14:45.32 | MindChild | Is there a resource that explains the different roms and their capabilities for the zaurus SL-5500? I have theKompany rom and while its much better then the default one, I would think there would be better alternatives... at least something more up to date |
| 14:46.29 | hrw|work | Oz is much more up to date |
| 14:46.59 | MindChild | What is your opinion of usability? |
| 14:47.00 | MindChild | Honestly |
| 14:49.02 | hrw|work | I'm not good person to ask - used sharprom 2.38 over year ago for ~2 weekds |
| 14:49.06 | hrw|work | then only OZ |
| 14:50.12 | hrw|work | and I 'used' sharprom on c760 for less then hour ~month ago |
| 14:53.50 | MindChild | Can you point me to some screenshots or something? OpenZaurus runs like its in Antarctica running on a 386SX, and I dont see any there anyway |
| 14:54.20 | hrw|work | http://opie.handhelds.org/ and then gallery |
| 14:54.38 | hrw|work | if you want something similar to sharp or tkcrom |
| 14:55.45 | MindChild | muchas gracias |
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| 15:02.36 | hrw|work | no problemo |
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| 15:45.51 | lardman|work | MindChild: I had the mis-fortune to try out cacko for a week while away at a conference (I needed functional IR which was broken at the time in OZ) |
| 15:46.34 | lardman|work | MindChild: It was very pretty, and worked well for some stuff - but it was a real pain if you wanted to do anything except basic stuff |
| 15:46.52 | lardman|work | MindChild: I switched back to OZ/opie as soon as I was back |
| 15:47.06 | lardman|work | MindChild: Just my opinion of course |
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| 16:01.16 | alan | hi ! |
| 16:08.32 | Gondola | hi alan |
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| 16:42.54 | lardman|work | Can anyone build strace? I'm sure I built it last week, but it fails now and I can't see any alterations to openembedded to do with it |
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| 16:50.46 | lardman|work | 5600 - is it zimage or zimage.bin? oz.org isn't responding |
| 17:02.19 | MindChild | zImage |
| 17:02.27 | MindChild | and initrd.bin |
| 17:03.22 | lardman|work | ok, thanks |
| 17:06.18 | MindChild | Jesus christ |
| 17:06.37 | MindChild | is someone running openzaurus.com running on a 28.8 or what? |
| 17:13.52 | lardman|work | Yeah, not very good is it |
| 17:14.33 | alan | does anyone know anything about BoraOffice ? |
| 17:14.53 | lardman|work | never heard of it I'm afraid |
| 17:19.22 | MindChild | Ok, I can choose from Opie, or GPE... is there any disadvantages to one over the other? Like does one support only QT and the other GTK? |
| 17:20.27 | hardwire | I HAVE A PALM ZIRE 72! |
| 17:20.42 | lardman|work | Opie is like Qtopia, GPE is X11 based |
| 17:21.18 | MindChild | Right, but it is just a desktop environment... right? |
| 17:21.31 | MindChild | My question is, is there app compatibility issues between the two |
| 17:21.35 | lardman|work | or palmtop |
| 17:21.46 | lardman|work | yes - qtopia/opie apps won't run within X11 |
| 17:22.00 | lardman|work | X11 apps won't run without an X server (which opie doesn't have) |
| 17:22.09 | MindChild | Ok, that was my question |
| 17:22.16 | lardman|work | so gui apps for either one won't run on the other |
| 17:22.20 | MindChild | I guess Ill have to try both out and see which is more appropriate for me |
| 17:22.32 | lardman|work | good plan |
| 17:22.43 | MindChild | At least with X11, I can run a remote X session |
| 17:22.51 | MindChild | Opie, Id have to use VNC |
| 17:23.14 | lardman|work | yep, probably, I don't do much remote stuff |
| 17:23.59 | lardman|work | With opie, there;s an app called XQt which allows creates an X11 desktop inside a Qtopia app - so the app contains all the X11 apps you're running |
| 17:24.28 | lardman|work | I've not tried it for a while though, not sure whether it's in the feed or not |
| 17:25.16 | lardman|work | I'm off home, have a nice evening all |
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| 17:44.52 | crweb2 | i have a problem with my 1gig lexar sdcard and the sl-5500, it will only do read only. even if its not mounted, i can't fdisk, can't format nothing, just says Read-only file system while something superblock |
| 17:46.08 | crweb2 | if i format it fat, and use it in windows and in mycamera the card is fine, btw |
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| 18:08.57 | crweb2 | Read-only file system while setting up superblock |
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| 18:40.32 | mimecar | hi |
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| 19:07.00 | alan | guys, do you know this software ? |
| 19:07.07 | alan | BoraOffice : http://www.boratech.co.kr/product/emlinux.html#a |
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| 19:40.28 | alan | ... it's trange that by this time of the day, there is never anyone here... |
| 19:42.12 | MindChild | Im here nigga |
| 19:42.28 | alan | ^^ |
| 19:50.14 | MindChild | I need a site with a list of roms available for my bitch |
| 19:50.25 | Gondola2 | Do you have an Aibo? |
| 19:50.39 | MindChild | Nope... if I did, Id get a male |
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| 21:15.18 | offroadgeek | anyone familiar with the dropbear no auth issue? |
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| 22:45.06 | offroadgeek | yippee!!! |
| 22:45.26 | offroadgeek | (just got opera to work on my 1000) |
| 22:46.02 | AnalogTek | offroadgeek: do you have wi-fi working on that 1000? |
| 22:47.52 | offroadgeek | yep... with an ambicom cf card |
| 22:50.52 | AnalogTek | hm, I used the files at http://openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.3/c1000/ to get oz on my 1k and the AmbiCom cf doesn't work. |
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| 22:52.28 | offroadgeek | when you say doesn't work, what specifically is happening (or not happening) |
| 22:56.13 | AnalogTek | specifically, the 1k recognizes a CF card has been inserted, the LED on the AmbiCom lights steadily, and the only type of network connection I can add using the graphic utility is ppp. |
| 22:56.55 | offroadgeek | when you have the network app up, you should see two wifi entries: wlan0 and wifi0 |
| 22:57.03 | AnalogTek | I eject it and plug in my Trendnet ethernet cf card and voila!: instant network connection. |
| 22:57.04 | offroadgeek | select wlan0 and click the 'configure' button |
| 22:57.15 | AnalogTek | I tried that. |
| 22:57.23 | AnalogTek | I will try it again... |
| 22:57.28 | AnalogTek | did you compile yer own kernel? |
| 22:57.49 | offroadgeek | nope... I used the updated one |
| 22:58.33 | AnalogTek | hm, same 28-Apr-2005 snapshot I used? |
| 22:58.42 | offroadgeek | this one: http://www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.3/upgrades/zImage-akita-20050505180646.bin |
| 22:59.26 | AnalogTek | hm, ok... that's different than I used... I think I'll just use that... I think this one doesn't have the wireless mod. |
| 23:00.20 | offroadgeek | actually, my ambicom card worked with the same kernel you're using.. I reflashed with the updated kernel a few days later |
| 23:00.29 | offroadgeek | the updated kernel fixes the FN key issue |
| 23:00.41 | AnalogTek | cool! |
| 23:01.28 | offroadgeek | and when you get your wifi working... install this: http://www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.3/upgrades/libqte2_2.3.10-r15_akita.ipk |
| 23:01.40 | offroadgeek | with -nodeps, and that will fix the dpad issue |
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