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| 01:05.15 | chuckr | is anyone out there doing openembedded "bitbake" building? |
| 01:06.04 | chuckr | I need to get a question regarding the directory setup answered |
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| 01:26.51 | dhr | I'm using "opie-console" on my sl6000. Very hard to read. I need a bigger font. On the plus side, I can get 91 rows and 93 columns! |
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| 01:38.22 | PenZ | meh |
| 01:39.50 | Pendalar | I wish package manager would quit freezing =-s |
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| 03:02.00 | *** topic/#openzaurus is OpenZaurus user discussion/support channel | developer discussion in #oe | http://openzaurus.org/ | Don't ask to ask, just ask. | OZ 3.5.3 -> http://openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.3/ | Report OZ bugs at http://bugs.openembedded.org/ l/p: guest/guest |
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| 04:57.08 | dhr | how is one supposed to set 802.11b parameters like esid and WEP key? "network", which calls itself "network settings" doesn't seem to do these things. |
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| 05:16.53 | dhr | I checked: I do have opie-networksettings-wlanplugin installed. |
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| 11:16.44 | zmiq | hi, has anyone noticed that cardmanager has some trouble with serial cards ? |
| 11:17.22 | zmiq | even drivers load OK, cardctl thinks the added device is ttyS0 while it is ttyS3 |
| 11:18.40 | zmiq | ... and bugs.openembedded.org is not working for checking out if that's already reported .... |
| 11:19.04 | hrw|work | zmiq: what card? what machine? what kernel? which OZ? |
| 11:19.17 | XorA | zmiq: I have seen that complaint before, mickeyl saw it when playing with bt cards I think |
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| 11:19.54 | zmiq | card any serial I have: 1) socket 56K cf modem , 2) socket bluetooth, with oz3.5.3 linux 2.6.11 |
| 11:20.13 | hrw|work | zmiq: updated kernel? |
| 11:20.38 | zmiq | where should I get latest: oz or rp site? |
| 11:21.02 | hrw|work | dont remember |
| 11:21.05 | lardman | Prob the OZ upgrades feed |
| 11:21.37 | hrw|work | from RP (-r19) should be ok |
| 11:22.02 | zmiq | my understanding is that to get new kernel, I must manually download, and reflash; ipkg whatever doesn't work right? |
| 11:22.24 | hrw|work | reflash kernel, ipkg upgrade modules |
| 11:22.34 | XorA | zmiq: yes, you need to reflash, but you can reflash kernel only |
| 11:22.50 | zmiq | ok; going through it right now ... |
| 11:22.55 | hrw|work | all: what procedure is for taking into maintance menus? I want to take nand backup |
| 11:23.18 | XorA | hrw|work: pull out battery, remove power, press d+m, plug in either AC or battery |
| 11:23.33 | XorA | hold d+m that should be |
| 11:24.12 | hrw|work | ah.. hold DM when giving power? |
| 11:24.29 | XorA | hrw|work: yes |
| 11:25.09 | XorA | hrw|work: took me a few mins to work out thats what a lot of the online guides meant |
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| 11:28.15 | hrw|work | and card have to be vfat? |
| 11:31.28 | XorA | hrw|work: Ive only done it on vfat, but I assume so as its using low level routines |
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| 11:47.06 | hrw|work | XorA: how long nand backup takes on Cx60? |
| 11:49.55 | zmiq | hrw: just made kernel upgrade, and I get the same error: May 12 08:13:19 c7x0 daemon.info cardmgr[1820]: socket 0: Serial or Modem |
| 11:49.57 | zmiq | May 12 08:13:20 c7x0 user.info kernel: Serial: 8250/16550 driver $Revision: 1.90 $ 4 ports, IRQ sharing disabled |
| 11:49.58 | zmiq | May 12 08:13:21 c7x0 daemon.info udev[2627]: creating device node '/dev/ttyS3' |
| 11:50.00 | zmiq | May 12 08:13:21 c7x0 daemon.info udev[2643]: creating device node '/dev/ttyS4' |
| 11:50.01 | zmiq | May 12 08:13:22 c7x0 daemon.info udev[2659]: creating device node '/dev/ttyS5' |
| 11:50.03 | zmiq | May 12 08:13:22 c7x0 daemon.info udev[2665]: creating device node '/dev/ttyS6' |
| 11:50.05 | zmiq | May 12 08:13:22 c7x0 daemon.info cardmgr[1820]: executing: 'modprobe serial_cs 2>&1' |
| 11:50.06 | zmiq | May 12 08:13:22 c7x0 daemon.info cardmgr[1820]: + Using /lib/modules/2.6.11/kernel/drivers/serial/8250.ko |
| 11:50.08 | zmiq | May 12 08:13:24 c7x0 daemon.info cardmgr[1820]: + Using /lib/modules/2.6.11/kernel/drivers/serial/serial_cs.ko |
| 11:50.09 | zmiq | May 12 08:13:25 c7x0 user.warn kernel: ttyS3 at I/O 0xc48603f8 (irq = 40) is a 16550A |
| 11:50.11 | zmiq | May 12 08:13:25 c7x0 daemon.info udev[2817]: removing device node '/dev/ttyS3' |
| 11:50.12 | zmiq | May 12 08:13:25 c7x0 daemon.info udev[2829]: creating device node '/dev/ttyS3' |
| 11:50.14 | zmiq | May 12 08:13:27 c7x0 daemon.info cardmgr[1820]: executing: './serial start ttyS0 2>&1' |
| 11:50.15 | zmiq | May 12 08:13:27 c7x0 daemon.info cardmgr[1820]: + Default modem setup |
| 11:50.17 | zmiq | May 12 08:13:27 c7x0 daemon.info cardmgr[1820]: + Cannot set serial info: Invalid argument |
| 11:50.43 | hrw|work | ~pastebin |
| 11:50.57 | ibot | rumour has it, pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca |
| 11:50.57 | zmiq | zmiq: notice cardmgr makes: executing ./serial start ttyS0, while new device actually is ttyS3 |
| 11:51.12 | hrw|work | aha. so you need to look into /etc/pcmcia/serial and fix it |
| 11:51.14 | XorA | hrw|work: quite a few minutes from what I remeber, been months since I did it |
| 11:51.30 | hrw|work | XorA: I plan to look into GPE |
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| 11:52.10 | alan|work | hi ! |
| 11:53.00 | zmiq | hrw: I think the probles relies in cardmgr, since it passes the device as ttyS0 to the serial script ... |
| 11:54.22 | hrw|work | maybe.. I dont have serial based cf card |
| 11:54.46 | XorA | hrw|work: it is a bug thats been seen before |
| 11:57.01 | zmiq | hrw|work: anything I can do to mail down the issue? |
| 11:57.10 | zmiq | s/mail/nail |
| 11:57.13 | hrw|work | zmiq: dont know |
| 11:57.41 | zmiq | hrw|work: is there anyone in oz in charge of cardmngr ? |
| 12:07.34 | alan|work | does anyone know if, when i use mplayer, displaying video that is not 320*240 but 320*200 for exemple with the -fs option consumes more horse power than a 320*240 withoiut the -fs argument ? (this of course with the sreen resolution of 320*240) |
| 12:09.11 | alan|work | if i don't use the fs argument, then the video is placed on the bottom of the sreen and there is quite a lot of garbage above it... |
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| 12:12.27 | hrw|work | XorA: how to get from diag menu to normal? I took battery for some time and its nono, I used extramenu/reset and still in diag... |
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| 12:30.02 | XorA | hrw|work: erm reset is what I used |
| 12:30.31 | hrw|work | XorA: I had to clear diag flag |
| 12:31.01 | XorA | hrw|work: I was sure reset did that for you, maybe you got a slightly different rom than me |
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| 13:15.38 | hrw|work | someone with opie here? |
| 13:27.02 | b0ti|work | hrw|work: I have opie but can't test ATM. |
| 13:27.21 | hrw|work | ok |
| 14:07.30 | hrw|work | http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=12764 |
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| 15:22.35 | dhr | repeating question from last night: |
| 15:22.40 | dhr | how is one supposed to set 802.11b parameters like esid and WEP key? "network", which calls itself "network settings" doesn't seem to do these things. |
| 15:22.43 | dhr | I checked: I do have opie-networksettings-wlanplugin installed. |
| 15:24.39 | XorA | dhr: it does |
| 15:25.04 | XorA | dhr: if you are taling oz 3.5.X anyway |
| 15:25.33 | dhr | I flashed 3.5.3, and done nothing else -- no other packages. |
| 15:26.00 | dhr | This is on a 6000. |
| 15:26.01 | XorA | what card type? |
| 15:26.11 | XorA | dhr: ah built in wifi? |
| 15:26.15 | dhr | yes. |
| 15:27.19 | XorA | dhr: you might need to edit /etc/network/interfaces then, I vaguely remeber seeing that opie-network settings didnt think a wlan-ng card was wireless and therefore messed up |
| 15:27.24 | dhr | I go to settings tab, pke "network", see a list of interfaces ("connections"), select "wlan0" |
| 15:27.58 | offroadgeek_ | I haven't tried oz on my 6000 but shouldn't all the wifi/network settings be in /etc/network/interfaces ? |
| 15:28.02 | XorA | dhr: But I dont have 6000 to hand, defineately works on 5500 and C7x0 |
| 15:28.02 | dhr | "configure" offers no wireless choics. |
| 15:30.17 | XorA | dhr: http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/installation/sl-6000/ |
| 15:30.23 | dhr | Thanks! looking in /etc/network/ interfaces. There is a line that says "iface wlan0 inet dhcp" |
| 15:30.23 | XorA | dhr: all documented there for you |
| 15:31.57 | dhr | thanks. reading. In the past, I stopped reading where it said "Old method - now superseded" |
| 15:32.12 | offroadgeek_ | dhr: yep, and that's where you can specify any essid or other settings |
| 15:32.38 | XorA | dhr: yeah, that seems to be badly placed |
| 15:40.54 | dhr | I agree that the problem appears to be in /etc/nework/interfaces. It just doesn't quite match what the page says. |
| 15:41.56 | dhr | Should it say "wireless_nick Zaurus_6000"? (nick??? NIC would be the more normcal spelling)? |
| 15:42.39 | dhr | Oh, maybe it means nickname, not network interface controler. |
| 15:43.03 | XorA | dhr: I dont know the debian network format |
| 15:44.10 | dhr | ah, if it debian, then I can find doc. Thanks for the hint. |
| 15:44.36 | XorA | dhr: yes, its the same format |
| 15:44.50 | offroadgeek | dhr: what specific settings are you trying to set? |
| 15:44.55 | XorA | dhr: and feel free to comment on that article the problems |
| 15:46.20 | dhr | I'm just trying to set up 802.11 on my 6000. My home wireless network uses WEP "security". So I've got to configure the ESSID and WEP keys into my Zaurus. |
| 15:47.23 | XorA | anyway, time for me to go home |
| 15:47.29 | dhr | BTW: another newbie problem. The "console" font is too small for me. I get a 91x93 character screen (amazing), but it is too hard for my aged eyes. |
| 15:47.30 | offroadgeek | dhr: ok... first check out this doc: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/examples/interfaces |
| 15:47.32 | XorA|gone | dhr: hope you get it fixed |
| 15:47.49 | dhr | where do I change the font on "console"? |
| 15:47.54 | dhr | Thanks XorA |
| 15:48.24 | offroadgeek | dhr: in the "Connection" menu settings (at the top left of the console window) |
| 15:49.11 | offroadgeek | Connection -> Configure Profiles -> default -> edit -> Terminal (tab) |
| 15:51.20 | dhr | thanks! I had been lost in another menu that seemed to have no effect. I didn't even realize that "connection" was a menu. Duh. |
| 15:53.20 | offroadgeek | dhr: no problem... now back to your 802.11 problem... read that debian doc on the interfaces file... and the other options that it doesn't list is wireless-essid [insert essid] and wireless-key [insert wep key] |
| 15:53.34 | dhr | http://www.greenfly.org/fujitsu/interfaces looks interesting. |
| 15:55.38 | offroadgeek | dhr: that does look nice... but it looks like it's setup to work with a profile changing script/app |
| 15:55.52 | dhr | with the sharp rom, there was an interesting feature: When you asked to bring up a wireless interface, you got to select between a bunch of preconfigured (by you) profiles. Like "home", "office" (if you had configured those). |
| 15:56.46 | offroadgeek | dhr: yep... that's not the same with OZ... though it is relatively easy to change between different profiles... either manually (which is what I do) or via a script (trying to pull up link now) |
| 15:58.15 | offroadgeek | dhr: ok.. check out this thread on the OE forums... it speaks directly to this, and has a link to an opie-sh script to change profiles |
| 15:58.17 | offroadgeek | http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=12679 |
| 16:01.34 | dhr | thanks, offroadgeek. I've read it. Gotta run for a bit. Will try it this afternoon (it is noon here). |
| 16:02.41 | offroadgeek | dhr: anytime... good luck |
| 16:02.42 | dhr | I am a CLI user, so I don't much mind, but the technique is not nearly as slick as the Sharp one |
| 16:02.56 | dhr | Are there plans to do a GUI version? |
| 16:03.13 | offroadgeek | no idea... I actually prefer this way... less buggy for me |
| 16:03.47 | offroadgeek | though I do run the sharp rom on my 6000 and OZ on my 1000... so I guess it's the best of both worlds |
| 16:04.01 | dhr | "less buggy" probably means "more transparent", does it not? |
| 16:04.47 | offroadgeek | no... I mean buggy in that the profiles in the sharp rom would just break every now and then... where it wouldn't connect to my APs... unless I deleted the profile and re-created it |
| 16:05.34 | dhr | Why do you run the Sharp ROM? What features do you like better than OZ? Opera? (Can that be run under OZ?)? |
| 16:05.38 | dhr | Java? |
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| 16:06.40 | offroadgeek | I don't know... my 6000 mostly sits on my desk (I use my 1000 primarily).. I have the 6000 usually up with kphone running to use as a voip phone |
| 16:07.00 | dhr | Does kphone work with OZ? |
| 16:07.12 | offroadgeek | also the sharp rom just "works" with my usb keyboard and mouse connected... it's a nice desk setup |
| 16:07.26 | hrw | dhr: we have kphonepi in feed |
| 16:07.27 | offroadgeek | yes, kphone works with oz to.. I have it setup on my 1000 too |
| 16:07.57 | dhr | OZ doesn't "just work" with USB keyboard and mouse? |
| 16:08.11 | offroadgeek | good question... I honestly haven't tried it yet |
| 16:08.23 | offroadgeek | (on my 6000) |
| 16:09.36 | dhr | I have a USB cable & have used a keyboard, just to try, with Sharp ROM on 6000. Trouble is that the cable is as heavy as the whole PDA -- it was cobbled out of a kit with interchangable connectors. |
| 16:10.22 | dhr | I need to find a nice light cable. Perhaps with a hub. |
| 16:10.41 | offroadgeek | I think I have the iriver cable... it's nice and small |
| 16:14.00 | dhr | local stores don't seem to carry the iriver cable. And ordering across a border is a bit annoying (I am in Canada). |
| 16:14.44 | offroadgeek | dhr: that sucks... probably makes buying things from the states cost twice as much |
| 16:16.07 | dhr | there are taxes & duties. But worst of all are brokerage fees. If something is sent USPS, brokerage = $5. If UPS, typically $50! So many stores are unwilling to do USPS. |
| 16:17.21 | dhr | clearer: "So many" -> "Too many" |
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| 17:06.45 | hrw | hi [cc]smart |
| 17:08.43 | llll | man, my zaurus battery sux0rz |
| 17:08.57 | llll | im charging it, and draining it a day later, hoping to fix it a bit |
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| 17:45.06 | [cc]smart | hi |
| 17:47.54 | [cc]smart | hrw: what's the price of an wrt54g in poland (in euros pls, so i can compare .)) |
| 17:48.14 | hrw | have to check |
| 17:49.51 | hrw | ~change 326 pln to eur |
| 17:49.56 | hrw | wrt54g |
| 17:51.54 | [cc]smart | ah, sry. gs makes more sense, due to bigger flash |
| 17:52.07 | [cc]smart | iirc |
| 17:52.21 | hrw | ~change 420 pln to eur |
| 17:52.24 | hrw | wrt54gs |
| 17:54.45 | [cc]smart | strange. if you try e.g. www.alternate.de you see top left a search box and give wrt54, you get cheaper prices. i'd have expected similar prices in poland. if you could get it there, this would sav package and posting... 16? difference could make sending worthwhile though. |
| 17:55.39 | hrw | I checked shop where I know that they have it |
| 17:55.50 | hrw | will check others |
| 17:56.29 | [cc]smart | i see 13? is p&p |
| 17:56.35 | hrw | ~change 388 pln to eur |
| 17:56.45 | hrw | wrt54gs in other shop |
| 17:57.11 | [cc]smart | that makes more sense, then 9? aren't weighed out by post |
| 17:57.57 | hrw | 9? == 9EUR? (no utf8 here) |
| 17:58.04 | [cc]smart | yes |
| 17:58.58 | hrw | ah |
| 17:59.48 | [cc]smart | this one sounds like a trustworthy offer, or like a trap ?: http://www.cyberbajt.pl/cyber.php?i=produkt&id=340 |
| 18:01.11 | hrw | looks good - another side of poland |
| 18:02.35 | [cc]smart | ~change 350 pln to eur |
| 18:03.07 | hrw | looks like best deal |
| 18:04.23 | [cc]smart | i think i'll wire 85? for a wrt54gs so you can decide on which offer to take |
| 18:05.42 | hrw | thx |
| 18:06.16 | hrw | wrt54gs is one revision or few? |
| 18:06.51 | [cc]smart | last time i had to check, which was a while ago :) there was only one rev. of wrt54gs |
| 18:07.28 | hrw | uf.. one problem less |
| 18:07.52 | [cc]smart | i'm not sure, just checking myself now. |
| 18:08.20 | [cc]smart | in any case gs is much better choice, since the bigger flash is very nededed... no usb ports to attach storage :) |
| 18:08.41 | hrw | ;)) |
| 18:09.11 | hrw | be back in 30 mins |
| 18:13.26 | [cc]smart | actually, there are different revs. http://www.linksysinfo.org/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=6 |
| 18:15.18 | [cc]smart | and it seems support is less good for the newer rev. : http://openwrt.org/OpenWrtDocs/Installing |
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| 18:18.52 | alan | re-hi ! |
| 18:24.55 | dhr | http://openwrt.org/OpenWrtDocs/Hardware lists trendnet "Units that should work: (untested)". Those are probably quite inexpensive. I wonder why they think that they should work. |
| 18:27.03 | [cc]smart | why do you think that they should think that they should not work ? |
| 18:27.09 | [cc]smart | :) |
| 18:28.47 | dhr | most random wireless routers have inappropriate hardware or software, I think. |
| 18:29.28 | [cc]smart | i think the wrrrt54gs rev 1 is quite ok |
| 18:30.32 | dhr | yes, that is known to work and is listed under "Units that considered supported in the stable version (eg. known to work "out-of-the-box")" |
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| 18:54.31 | offroadgeek | is openzaurus.org particularly slow today or is it just me? |
| 18:57.09 | hrw | re |
| 18:58.32 | offroadgeek | hello |
| 18:59.25 | hrw | offroadgeek: oz.org is hosted on sf.net.. their mysql server is quite slow |
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| 19:06.02 | hrw | heh.. booted own gpe image and.. you are running 2.6.11, I expect 2.6.12-rc3-mm4 (and 2.6.12-rc4-mm2 modules on disk ;) |
| 19:06.04 | hrw | its funny sometimes |
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| 19:09.58 | hrw | gpe booted.. |
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| 19:18.11 | hrw | cu all - good night |
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| 20:53.51 | dhr | offroadgeek: I'm still having problems with my 6000 and 802.11. The driver seems to be hardwired to prism2_usb. Is this right? Seems odd. |
| 21:02.56 | alan | good night all |
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| 21:13.31 | offroadgeek | dhr: sorry, didn't see your message until now |
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| 21:29.23 | dhr | offroadgeek: do you happen to know what the correct module is for the 6000's 802.11 NIC? |
| 21:30.01 | dhr | Since you still have a sharp ROM on your 6000, you should be able to figure that out. |
| 21:30.32 | dhr | iwconfig sees my wlan0 but when I try to set a key, it reports: |
| 21:30.50 | dhr | SET failed on device wlan0 ; Operation not supported. |
| 21:31.29 | dhr | This is odd. I got WEP going on the Sharp ROM, so the hardware does support it sufficiently. |
| 21:34.33 | dhr | BTW, http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/installation/sl-6000/ uses wireless_ as an option prefix in interfaces(5), but debian uses wireless- as the prefix (underscore vs minus). |
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| 21:39.50 | dhr | Another oddity: Fn-H does not enter _ in the text editor or console. At least not at the moment. |
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| 22:39.59 | narco | how do you format a compact flash vfat in zaurus |
| 22:40.07 | narco | anyone? |
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| 22:40.45 | narco | how do you format a compact flash vfat in zaurus |
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