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01:18.13fooHola. What software would you guys recommend for linux for a sl-5600 ?
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02:39.37fooWhat software would you guys recommend for linux for a zaurus sl-5600
02:39.38foo?
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04:27.23*** topic/#openzaurus is OpenZaurus user discussion/support channel | developer discussion in #oe | http://openzaurus.org/ | Don't ask to ask, just ask. | OZ 3.5.3 -> http://openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.3/ | Report OZ bugs at http://bugs.openembedded.org/ l/p: guest/guest
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05:10.23fooAH
05:10.26fooThis zaurus is a pain
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05:50.53foo__law__: hola
05:53.49__law__foo, hi
05:54.00foo__law__: What zaurus do you have?
05:56.43__law__foo, 5XXX
05:57.14foo__law__: I am having problems getting qtopiadesktop working under debian with my 5600. The sync is greyed out.. I was given this zaurus, trying to figure it out
05:59.11__law__i dont use qtopiadesktop :-(
05:59.30foo__law__: What do you recommend I use? I'm just trying to get some apps on there
06:00.22__law__on your Z ?
06:00.48fooYeah. It's got stock stuff
06:23.43__law__you can install programs over inet cf ...
06:24.08fooYeah, I just don't have a inet cf
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06:57.52fooWhat kind of computer hardware type would the zaurus be? I am trying to add it via hardware update wizard...
06:59.46hrwfoo: windows?
06:59.58hrwfoo: zaurus is zaurus - you need its 'drivers'
07:00.14foohrw: err, yeah. I can't seem to find these drivesr.
07:00.26hrw~zug
07:00.27ibotzug is, like, Zaurus User Group - probably the largest source of Zaurus (and other LinuxPDA) informations. Since 2005 it is called OESF. URL: http://www.oesf.org/
07:00.38foohrw: I have downloaded the install cd from http://www.myzaurus.com/downloads.asp and I still can't get it
07:01.25hrwwhat Z?
07:01.39hrwmaybe wrong Z? maybe wrong version...
07:01.43hrwnever used Z and windows
07:01.52fooSL-5600
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07:03.01foohrw: I can't get it with linux either
07:03.58hrwI got my 5500 and 760 working with linux without problems
07:04.08foohrw: shoot man... what did you use on linux ?
07:04.09hrwon openzaurus.org we have howto
07:04.17hrwusbnet
07:06.22foohttp://openzaurus.org/wordpress/installation/sl-5600/
07:06.24foohrw: That one?
07:06.26fooWhat about usbnet ?
07:06.50hrwusb networking howto
07:10.55fooJun  8 16:15:42 localhost kernel: hub.c: new USB device 00:04.2-2, assigned address 6
07:10.58fooJun  8 16:15:42 localhost kernel: usb0: register usbnet usb-00:04.2-2, Sharp Zaurus, PXA-2xx based
07:11.00fooJun  8 16:15:45 localhost usb.agent[5173]:      usbnet: already loaded
07:11.04fooJun  8 16:15:45 localhost usb.agent[5173]:      acm: already loaded
07:11.07fooOk, we're good to go there.
07:12.23fooWow, cool.
07:14.26foohrw: Cool, I can ping it and what not.
07:14.38fooNow what did you do?
07:16.22hrwconfigure usb0 on desktop and usbd0 on zaurus
07:17.11foousb0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr FA:4C:BB:21:15:B8
07:17.11foo<PROTECTED>
07:17.15fooI got it configured on desktop
07:21.46foohrw: What do I do on the zaurus? I don't see what it says ... I can't click on the interface
07:22.18hrwconfigure usbd0
07:22.50foohrw: Yeah, but how? Is that a command? I don't have a shell on here
07:23.28hrwits #openzaurus not #zaurus
07:23.52foohrw: Hmm, my bad.
07:24.18foohrw: I've got qtopia, I think. This pda was given to me, trying to get it working. Any more ideas?
07:24.31hrwdo you want to know when last time I used sharprom?
07:24.49foowell I can ping the device.. I am getting somewhere
07:24.50foohmm
07:25.01hrwyou got ping reply?
07:25.19foodebian:/home/notix# ifconfig | grep -A 2 usb0
07:25.19foousb0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr FA:4C:BB:21:15:B8
07:25.19foo<PROTECTED>
07:25.42hrwI go to work
07:25.42fooHmm, I can ssh to it too. I don't know the password, though.
07:25.50hrwempty?
07:25.59fooTried, no go.
07:26.23hrwreboot Z, press / so you will get option to go to console and then try
07:26.25hrwiirc
07:26.37hrwlast time with sharp was over year ago on 5500
07:26.52hrwjust becasue I didnt had card to reflash OZ
07:26.56fooI see
07:27.02hrwhttp://www.hrw.one.pl/index.php/en/my-year-with-zaurus/
07:27.07fooHmm, what is / ? I don't see that button
07:27.23fooAh, I see
07:27.47hrwleft from space iirc
07:28.04fooah, ok. *opens keyboard*
07:28.32fooOk, says INIT: Entering runlevel: 5
07:28.38fooWait... countdown
07:29.56fooOk, now it's back in the X or whatever it's called
07:30.12fooHmm, I didn't get the option to go to console
07:31.51fooHmm, it never gave me an option. I pressed / ,  hmm
07:35.28fooReboot your Zaurus and press the '/?' key when it
07:35.29foocomes up with the 'Wait 1..2..3..4..5'. Press 'a' and login as
07:35.29foo'root'. Then run the following commands:
07:35.30fooBingo
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08:02.08DyB|Vandalaloha
08:02.23DyB|Vandalso is there anything to keep in mind when flashing back to the official sharp rom?
08:02.37DyB|Vandal(i need to rip hancom and friends)
08:04.33hrw|workDyB|Vandal: grab hancom etc from net
08:04.52DyB|Vandalwhere can i download them from?
08:05.05DyB|Vandaljust google?
08:05.14hrw|worksomewhere at zug they were
08:05.16hrw|work~zug
08:05.18ibotzug is, like, Zaurus User Group - probably the largest source of Zaurus (and other LinuxPDA) informations. Since 2005 it is called OESF. URL: http://www.oesf.org/
08:05.39foohrw|work: Hey, I am not able to ssh into it. I was able to get to the options menu, and I changed the password for root, but when I try the pass from my desktop I get:
08:05.43foodebian:/home/notix# ssh root@192.168.129.1
08:05.43fooPassword:
08:05.46fooAny ideas?
08:05.56hrw|workflash OZ
08:06.30foohrw|work: Only CF card I have is a digital camera... don't have a card to flash it.
08:08.07hrw|workcopy stuff from that card, put files on it, flash, put files back
08:08.09hrw|worksimple
08:09.01DyB|Vandalok got the hancom stuff
08:10.10foohrw|work: Does the digital camera actually contain files? I thought it was just a camera, hmm
08:10.53lsmithlets see if i can also find jeode (and opera .. then again probably end up using konq)
08:12.06hrw|worka.. sorry..
08:12.36hrw|workI was thinking that the only cf card which you have is the one in digital camera...
08:12.49hrw|worknot that sharp 'so called camera'
08:12.55hrw|workI need coffe
08:19.13lsmithah found a download link from sharp directly
08:19.34lsmithopera seems to be missing .. but oh well
08:20.06foolsmith: Why you going back to sharp?
08:20.23lsmithjust to rip the commercial ipk's
08:20.23foolsmith: I'm on sharp ATM. Just got this pda... trying to setup ssh so I can scp some files over.
08:20.27lsmithbut it seems i dont have to
08:20.46lsmithdownloaded the necessary ipk's from sharp .. hopefully
08:20.58lsmithnow .. on to flashing to a recent version of oz
08:21.15foolsmith: I see. Would you happen to know how to see if the sshd service exists? /me tries service sshd status
08:21.34lsmithits been too long ..
08:21.45lsmithi need to dig into things from zero again as well
08:22.28fooHmm, I don't think it's on here.
08:22.29fooLame
08:24.02hrw|workfoo: sharp does not have ssh
08:24.04hrw|workonly telnetd
08:24.24foohrw|work: I see. I am trying to find some way to connect to it so I can do something with it. heh
08:24.29fooPORT    STATE SERVICE
08:24.29foo111/tcp open  rpcbind
08:24.42fooI did an nmap on it, and that's the only thing that's open.
08:25.21foohrw|work: Anyway I can connect to it through that port ?
08:27.56hrw|work111 is portmap.
08:28.08foohrw|work: Hmm, I see.
08:33.59lsmitherr .. where did all those useful docs from back then go?
08:34.48lsmithah found something
08:42.21lsmithomg ... windows ics is sooooo pathetic
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09:09.32lardman|workmorning
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12:07.15alan|workhi
12:07.23alan|workhrw|work : ping
12:07.40hrw|workhi alan
12:07.48alan|workhi !
12:08.09alan|workthere is a post on the oesf forum about how feeds work...
12:08.30alan|worki would like to answer the guy, but i really don't know what to say
12:09.00alan|workoz uses feeds that are not listed in ipkgconfig file...
12:09.22alan|workwhere are they declared ?
12:09.40alan|work... my sentence doesn't mean anything...
12:09.43alan|worksorry
12:10.27alan|worki meant : how does the installer know src feeds that are not listed in /etc/ipkconfig file ?
12:11.21alan|work... or not...
12:12.19alan|workbtw, my work pc keeps crashing 2 times/hour, so please excuse if i suddently leave
12:13.05hrw|workit does not know
12:13.26alan|work?
12:13.33hrw|workwe have many feeds and inserting all into config is overkill
12:13.45hrw|workpackage managers get info about feeds from ipkg.conf
12:14.21alan|workoki
12:14.32alan|worki'll answer this guy asap
12:15.12alan|workthanks hrw
12:15.15hrw|worknp
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13:33.37lardman|busyWhat /dev does hcitool use?
13:33.53lardman|busyOr sdptool for that matter? Both fail for me with a new gpe-image
13:36.25lardman|busy'hcitool scan' returns: "Device is not available: Success"
13:37.05lardman|busy'sdptool browse' returns: Inquiring... Inquiry failed
13:42.24hrw|worklardman|busy: what does hciconfig say?
13:43.25lardman|busyBy hand I'm afraid as I don't have my cable....
13:43.59lardman|busyhci0: Type PCCARD; then everything is zeros and it is DOWN
13:44.15lardman|busy(I couldn't be bothered to type the whole lot)
13:44.16hrw|worklardman|busy: you did suspend/resume?
13:44.30lardman|busyI have done so, but not initially
13:44.43hrw|workdtl1_cs (aka Nokia based) driver does not survive suspend/resume
13:44.47lardman|busyHang on I'll do an eject/insert
13:44.48alan|worki'll be back later
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13:44.51hrw|workyou need to eject/insert card
13:45.20lardman|busyhciconfig still shows all zeros
13:45.31hrw|workrestart /etc/init.d/bluetooth
13:46.19lardman|busyah, better, hciconfig shows stuff now
13:46.37lardman|busysdptool's working too
13:46.41hrw|workI have "restart bluetooth" opie-sh script for it..
13:46.58lardman|busyIs there a fix for this, which doesn't require a manual intervention?
13:48.13lardman|busyapm scripts for example?
13:54.40hrw|workit can be written
13:55.14hrw|workbut it have to check for card vendor id/product id, and take care does it was on/off before suspend
14:04.36lardman|busyOkay
14:04.57lardman|busybetter to fix the kernel driver probably then?
14:05.48hrw|worksure
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15:09.05*** topic/#openzaurus is OpenZaurus user discussion/support channel | developer discussion in #oe | http://openzaurus.org/ | Don't ask to ask, just ask. | OZ 3.5.3 -> http://openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.3/ | Report OZ bugs at http://bugs.openembedded.org/ l/p: guest/guest
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18:01.08VjazHiya.
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18:10.28VjazIs there any web page where I could find information on getting my Zaurus calendar to sync with my desktop? (Opie on the Zaurus now, but I'd be interested in the same info for GPE too)
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22:20.14tpddbeen a while since i asked and I have heard lots of people working on OZ, so I was wondering if anyone had found a solution to the problem of alarms not resuming the zaurus?
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22:25.03TaZhello
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22:50.59*** topic/#openzaurus is OpenZaurus user discussion/support channel | developer discussion in #oe | http://openzaurus.org/ | Don't ask to ask, just ask. | OZ 3.5.3 -> http://openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.3/ | Report OZ bugs at http://bugs.openembedded.org/ l/p: guest/guest
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