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| 00:45.48 | jnc | innnnteresting |
| 00:46.14 | jnc | zaurus spitz (sl-c3000) runs off powered usb adapter, but does not seem to charge |
| 00:46.17 | jnc | it just runs |
| 00:46.23 | jnc | i.e. battery not depleting nor charging |
| 00:50.16 | buck` | how long does the sl-c3000 battery last for you? |
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| 00:54.47 | jnc | buck`: depends on which rom is going |
| 00:54.55 | jnc | buck`: suspend is f'd up on OZ 3.5.3 |
| 00:55.15 | jnc | with backlight off and wifi card, 2 hours |
| 00:55.34 | jnc | on the sharp rom and intermittent use it lasted the whole day |
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| 00:58.35 | buck` | damn |
| 00:58.37 | buck` | that's real short |
| 00:58.45 | jnc | buck`: maybe |
| 00:58.50 | buck` | will the suspend issue be fixed? |
| 00:59.02 | jnc | buck`: eventually, i think there was a hack that fixes it |
| 00:59.05 | jnc | i forgot where |
| 00:59.08 | buck` | oh |
| 00:59.09 | jnc | people never file oe bug reports |
| 00:59.13 | buck` | does that work with wifi |
| 00:59.19 | jnc | so this shit sits hidden in the forums |
| 00:59.25 | jnc | yeah |
| 00:59.35 | jnc | i've been using it all day now with the DLink DCF-660w |
| 00:59.39 | buck` | like could I leave on gaim and irc and have it in suspend for a day? |
| 00:59.41 | jnc | it does wellenreiter |
| 00:59.53 | jnc | oh |
| 00:59.55 | jnc | suspend doesn't work right |
| 01:00.02 | jnc | so that's a moot point for me to answer |
| 01:00.02 | buck` | if it did |
| 01:00.13 | jnc | not sure |
| 01:00.25 | jnc | pretty sure that wifi is deactivated in suspend mode |
| 01:00.29 | buck` | like is the suspend feature supposed to work with wifi...or will it when it works not allow wifi |
| 01:00.32 | buck` | oh |
| 01:00.47 | jnc | my thinkpad lappy works similarly |
| 01:00.59 | jnc | if network activity exists when it suspends, then that keeps going |
| 01:01.08 | jnc | otherwise it suspends and goes into powersave |
| 01:02.10 | buck` | oh |
| 01:02.43 | jnc | buck`: what hardware you got? |
| 01:03.07 | jnc | foo: i think so |
| 01:03.43 | buck` | havnt yet |
| 01:03.51 | buck` | I want to get a pda or pocket pc |
| 01:04.19 | buck` | and ive pretty much narrowed it down to sl-6000, and sl-c3000 |
| 01:04.35 | buck` | any suggestions? |
| 01:05.16 | jnc | buck`: sl-c3100 |
| 01:05.20 | buck` | but now im questioning if I really need/want one because of the battery life with wifi....it seems like a smart phone would be better |
| 01:05.21 | jnc | it's not out yet |
| 01:05.25 | buck` | jnc, why |
| 01:05.30 | buck` | wont it be mad expensive |
| 01:05.41 | jnc | 128mb flash rom, 64mb ram, and 4gb compact flash |
| 01:05.57 | buck` | better battery life/ |
| 01:05.58 | buck` | ? |
| 01:06.11 | jnc | well, it's a very sturdy little PDA |
| 01:06.19 | jnc | if you want a PDA, forget it |
| 01:06.32 | jnc | notepads are 5 bucks, pencils 99 cents |
| 01:06.45 | buck` | haha |
| 01:06.46 | jnc | if you want a wardriving machine, forget it |
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| 01:07.16 | jnc | 800mhz boards with 12v regulated power supplies and battery terminal kits are like less than 100 dollars |
| 01:07.22 | jnc | shove it in your trunk |
| 01:07.31 | buck` | haha |
| 01:07.42 | jnc | get some antennas and a few flatscreen LCD kits mounted, still under the price point for a sl-cxk |
| 01:07.46 | buck` | but the c3100 seems a little overkill |
| 01:07.50 | buck` | and expensive |
| 01:07.57 | jnc | well here's what i'm saying |
| 01:07.58 | buck` | id rather get a crappy laptop |
| 01:09.29 | jnc | if you need a mobile device occasionally that has a rotatable / flippable touch screen, .... |
| 01:09.32 | jnc | i don't know |
| 01:09.46 | jnc | i saw one for 550usd on ebay with a bunch of accessories, and made an impulse buy |
| 01:09.52 | jnc | so far i've wasted a lot of time with it |
| 01:10.04 | jnc | it is what i want though |
| 01:10.08 | jnc | i don't like big screens |
| 01:10.17 | jnc | i like high-res (640x480) |
| 01:10.22 | buck` | you got your c3000 for 550? |
| 01:10.26 | jnc | i can hook up GPS to it, not tested yet |
| 01:10.27 | jnc | yeah |
| 01:10.28 | buck` | what do you do with it mostly? |
| 01:11.30 | jnc | not sure yet |
| 01:11.45 | jnc | OZ 3.5.3 is very beta for the spitz (sl-c3000) |
| 01:12.12 | jnc | what i want to do is GPS maps |
| 01:12.32 | jnc | for that I need bluetooth and/or a USB host cable |
| 01:12.47 | jnc | i've already got a GPS usbmouse/bt receiver (GPSlim236) |
| 01:17.31 | buck` | nice |
| 01:17.41 | buck` | if I can get a 6000 for around 400 I think im gonna get it |
| 01:25.13 | jnc | no no |
| 01:25.25 | jnc | sl-6000 has a nicer screen |
| 01:25.34 | jnc | but the portrait mode sucks bad time |
| 01:25.41 | jnc | landscape is the way to go |
| 01:26.03 | ljp | i disagree |
| 01:26.06 | jnc | no? |
| 01:26.08 | ljp | its easier to hold |
| 01:26.22 | jnc | hm |
| 01:26.25 | ljp | :D |
| 01:26.34 | jnc | ljp: i got the info about USB miniA / B sorted out |
| 01:26.44 | ljp | saw that |
| 01:27.01 | jnc | forum posts were hinting at voodoo magic |
| 01:27.09 | jnc | turns out you just ground an ID pin |
| 01:27.10 | jnc | bah |
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| 01:29.30 | buck` | hmm yea didn't think about that |
| 01:29.46 | buck` | portrait mode would suck for browsing web and shit |
| 01:29.48 | aa | aye |
| 01:30.05 | jnc | landscape is the only way to browse on a zaurus |
| 01:30.10 | jnc | i mean, you could the other way |
| 01:30.21 | jnc | it's more cumbersome |
| 01:30.24 | Mt | I am quite impressed with spitz :) |
| 01:30.29 | jnc | Mt: :) |
| 01:30.32 | jnc | you have one eh? |
| 01:30.39 | Mt | Yep, I lived in akihabara |
| 01:30.43 | ljp | you can rotate qtopia |
| 01:31.15 | jnc | Mt: ah. i hear all kinds of wild stories about the electronics parts bazaars there |
| 01:31.26 | Mt | 5 blocks from akihabara station, I went and grabbed a c3000 nov 13 or what ever when they came out |
| 01:31.39 | jnc | how much are they selling for with the conversion etc. in usd? |
| 01:31.42 | Mt | Yea, its insane... I miss it a lot |
| 01:31.47 | Mt | No conversaions |
| 01:32.03 | Mt | There was no english at all, since it was the first day they were on sale |
| 01:32.09 | jnc | i picked up my spitz from an eBay seller 2nd hand, for 550usd and accessories |
| 01:32.12 | jnc | no usb host cable though |
| 01:32.22 | jnc | i meant conversion rate |
| 01:32.24 | Mt | I think it was about $750USD |
| 01:32.26 | Mt | oh |
| 01:32.26 | jnc | not english conversion |
| 01:32.28 | jnc | oh okay |
| 01:32.33 | jnc | so i made out okay |
| 01:32.39 | jnc | one dead pixel on mine |
| 01:32.50 | buck` | Mt, what do you use yours for? |
| 01:32.53 | jnc | it's green and blends in with the OpenZaurus mascot |
| 01:33.14 | Mt | Yea :) but, my friend who just bought one, said like $400USD, I almost bought a 860 because I found a place selling them for like $150USD.. it was like a golf shop... that had a stack of them in the back |
| 01:33.27 | Mt | I use mine just for playing around |
| 01:33.35 | buck` | what model? |
| 01:33.37 | Mt | I actually didnt do much with it, until I flashed with OZ |
| 01:33.39 | Mt | C3000 |
| 01:34.49 | buck` | what do you "play around" with |
| 01:35.02 | Mt | I have been using *nix for about 9 years now or so, so I have a pretty good grasp on how this works.. I have so many ideas, but its so time consuming... |
| 01:35.17 | jnc | yea |
| 01:35.31 | jnc | Mt: does the microdrive show up as hda* or hdd* or hdc* ? |
| 01:35.38 | jnc | mine shows up as hda* i wonder if that is bad |
| 01:35.40 | Mt | Well, I was trying to get the gentoo for zaurus to boot off the HD... I was trying to create a modded root fs |
| 01:35.46 | Mt | hda* yep, mine too |
| 01:35.55 | jnc | my 3 partition does not mount automatically |
| 01:35.59 | jnc | is that the same as yours |
| 01:36.01 | Mt | Yep |
| 01:36.19 | Mt | you can add it to the fstab though |
| 01:36.22 | jnc | oh okay |
| 01:36.30 | jnc | so how to install lots of apps? only 100mb? |
| 01:36.36 | jnc | i got confused about this |
| 01:36.50 | Mt | I am starting to think, that re-partitioning the microdrive is a good idea |
| 01:36.51 | jnc | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:36.55 | Mt | make a hda4 |
| 01:36.59 | jnc | maybe |
| 01:37.11 | Mt | and make hda3 a like 50mb fat drive |
| 01:37.16 | jnc | i would get ultra II sandisk flash to swap with before doing that |
| 01:37.19 | jnc | mmhm |
| 01:37.26 | Mt | then hda4 a 3.2ish gb ext2 drive |
| 01:37.37 | Mt | I have a high speed SD card |
| 01:37.40 | Mt | 1gb |
| 01:37.43 | jnc | ah okay |
| 01:37.52 | jnc | who is working on 2.6.x kernel? |
| 01:37.55 | jnc | i'm no programmer |
| 01:38.02 | jnc | i would like to cheerlead and encourage the developers |
| 01:38.04 | Mt | I got no clue, I am not involved with OZ at all |
| 01:38.04 | jnc | :) |
| 01:38.16 | Mt | I was just looking for info on why opie-mediaplayer2 was sucking asshole |
| 01:38.22 | Mt | and came across this irc channel |
| 01:38.30 | Mt | on some post |
| 01:38.36 | Mt | figured maybe I would come check it out |
| 01:40.11 | ljp | personally I dont think theres anything wrong with using older kernels |
| 01:40.40 | jnc | me neither |
| 01:41.24 | jnc | Mt: spitz is not w100 |
| 01:41.45 | Mt | Hurm |
| 01:41.55 | Mt | someone just told me SL-C3100 is out |
| 01:44.20 | Mt | Hurm |
| 01:45.09 | Mt | Anyways, I wouldnt mind getting my hands on some "Works in progress" for spitz, I think I might be able to help with some configs and what not... not too "sharp" with the distro yet, but I do know my LUNIXZ :P |
| 01:45.49 | Mt | oh, im a geek, and it hurts. |
| 01:45.51 | Mt | so lonely. |
| 01:50.08 | buck` | anyway to put linux on other pdas |
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| 01:51.09 | Mt | buck`: like what pda? |
| 01:51.29 | buck` | any other pda? |
| 01:51.42 | Mt | it depends on the arch of the processor... |
| 01:52.05 | Mt | really, and how hard it would be to modify the boot process I guess... I am not sure, I am new to this :) |
| 01:52.52 | Mt | if the processer arch is supported, than there will be software / kernel support for it... but I am a bit shady on how PDA's boot... if they use like MBR stuff like other computars, or what |
| 01:53.20 | buck` | ASUS A730 Standard Pocket PC Intel XScale PXA270 520MHz 640 x 480 TFT 3.7" |
| 01:58.23 | luke-jr_ | eww @ PDAs |
| 01:59.10 | Mt | Yea, probably |
| 01:59.16 | luke-jr_ | Mt: CPU is the easy thing to support; drivers for all the hardware almost always need to be written |
| 01:59.21 | Mt | Ahh |
| 01:59.23 | Mt | good call |
| 01:59.57 | Mt | I seriously, am really new to the Linux PDA thing, only been messing with OZ like 2 weeks... |
| 02:00.12 | Mt | and I didnt hit a wall until I couldnt get opie-mediaplayer to work |
| 02:00.21 | Mt | but I got bluetooth+gprs |
| 02:00.25 | luke-jr_ | GPE > Opie |
| 02:00.29 | Mt | Yea |
| 02:00.30 | Mt | I agree |
| 02:00.40 | luke-jr_ | http://www.orca.cx/zaurus/ <-- example of what needs to be written for new handhelds or PDAs |
| 02:00.42 | Mt | but I dont know where to start to build a GPE image for spitz |
| 02:01.03 | Mt | I think i've seen that host name before |
| 02:02.03 | luke-jr_ | Mt: probably OE |
| 02:02.21 | Mt | maybe |
| 02:02.23 | luke-jr_ | http://oe.handhelds.org/ and #oe |
| 02:02.45 | Mt | heh, you know where I would start to build a GPE hd image? |
| 02:03.11 | luke-jr_ | MACHINE="spitz" ? |
| 02:03.13 | Mt | yea |
| 02:03.21 | luke-jr_ | bitbake gpe-imag |
| 02:03.22 | luke-jr_ | bitbake gpe-image |
| 02:04.13 | Mt | hurm |
| 02:04.17 | luke-jr_ | or you could build OZ-ljr instead :) |
| 02:04.33 | luke-jr_ | http://utopios.org/~luke-jr/programs/oz-ljr/gpl/ljr.pkgs/ |
| 02:06.22 | Mt | is that your image? |
| 02:10.17 | luke-jr_ | yes |
| 02:10.25 | luke-jr_ | cxx0 only, ATM |
| 02:10.43 | Mt | ahh |
| 02:10.54 | Mt | will bitbake work on x86 eh? |
| 02:11.05 | Mt | im reading bout it now |
| 02:12.29 | jnc | ;) |
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| 02:18.56 | subdue | so what happens after june? |
| 02:19.03 | subdue | are they going to take it away? |
| 02:19.18 | jnc | take what away |
| 02:19.24 | subdue | bitbake |
| 02:19.31 | jnc | uhh |
| 02:19.40 | jnc | i'm not up on the news - what's going on? |
| 02:23.04 | subdue | nm. maybe I'm misunderstanding |
| 02:24.44 | subdue | nm. I was thinking of bitkeeper |
| 02:25.34 | subdue | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/05/26/bitkeeper_fiasco_is_setback_for_linux/ |
| 02:29.24 | Mt | ill be back later |
| 02:49.58 | foo | Hmm, anyone around at the moment? |
| 02:50.15 | foo | Was going to go purchase an sd/cf card. Was wondering if I can e-mail back and forth via my cell to pick the right one. |
| 03:03.32 | jnc | foo: get a lexar 1gigger |
| 03:03.37 | jnc | IMO |
| 03:03.39 | jnc | i have no idea |
| 03:03.45 | jnc | i have a 512mb lexar |
| 03:03.47 | jnc | works fine |
| 03:04.16 | luke-jr_ | it's WiFi card he's getting |
| 03:10.33 | jnc | ohhh |
| 03:10.45 | jnc | SDIO doesn't work |
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| 03:48.00 | Mt | blah |
| 03:48.55 | Mt | Too tired to do this |
| 03:49.55 | Mt | I think that some sort of higher being hates me |
| 03:51.48 | ljp | you mean your upstairs neighbor? |
| 03:52.10 | Mt | Probably |
| 03:52.14 | Mt | :P |
| 03:52.21 | Mt | speaking of home |
| 03:52.26 | Mt | its 10pm, and im still at the office |
| 03:52.46 | Mt | The things we do, to be able to watch family guy on the train |
| 03:52.52 | Mt | or on the toilet |
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| 03:59.57 | *** topic/#openzaurus is OpenZaurus user discussion/support channel | developer discussion in #oe | http://openzaurus.org/ | Don't ask to ask, just ask. | OZ 3.5.3 -> http://openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.3/ | Report OZ bugs at http://bugs.openembedded.org/ l/p: guest/guest |
| 04:04.41 | Mt | ljp, you maintain the opie-mediaplayer2 stuff? |
| 04:08.43 | ljp | kindasortanotreallyanymore,, sometimes |
| 04:08.52 | Mt | oh :) |
| 04:08.56 | ljp | :D |
| 04:09.23 | Mt | ever heard of it stalling at the quicklauncher? |
| 04:09.48 | ljp | havent really done anything with it for a while |
| 04:10.09 | Mt | its saying "doing slow search for /opt/QtPalmtop/bin/opieplayer2" |
| 04:10.11 | ljp | did you install the skin? |
| 04:10.12 | Mt | then it just bunks |
| 04:10.15 | Mt | yessah |
| 04:10.47 | Mt | there doesnt seem to be that opiexine.cf in the /home/root/Settings/ dir either |
| 04:11.16 | Mt | but i just ipkg -force-reinstall opie-mediaplayer2* (1.2.0-r0) |
| 04:11.19 | Mt | for like the 3rd time |
| 04:11.35 | Mt | ipkg -force-reinstall install opie-mediaplayer2* (1.2.0-r0) |
| 04:18.57 | Mt | I think i might have to set some sort of env var |
| 04:21.24 | jnc | foo: i think you paid too much |
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| 04:21.36 | jnc | 1GB SD can be had for 58-60usd |
| 04:21.50 | jnc | lots of people sell smaller size CF on eBay |
| 04:21.54 | subdue | if he mail ordered, yes |
| 04:22.01 | subdue | if store bought, not really |
| 04:22.06 | subdue | they have high markups |
| 04:22.10 | jnc | ah... yah |
| 04:22.19 | foo | jnc: I had $58 in store credit.. that's mainly why I got it there. |
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| 04:25.58 | NetNut404_PDA | hello |
| 04:26.59 | Mt | Whoa |
| 04:27.03 | Mt | I am crazy |
| 04:29.02 | jnc | foo: score! |
| 05:14.40 | luke-jr_ | jnc: IIRC, SDIO works on Cxx0 now |
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| 09:52.36 | alan | hi all ! |
| 09:52.41 | hrw|work | hi alan |
| 09:53.59 | alan | i just found back an old IR french keyboard i used with my Palm Zire (the very first one, a collection piece, now :D ). Is there any chance it can work with the Z ? |
| 09:54.16 | alan | bonjour hrw|work |
| 09:54.41 | hrw|work | you can test kbpp with lirc probably |
| 09:54.53 | hrw|work | alan: I have PalmPilot 5000 at home ;) |
| 09:54.59 | alan | ^^ |
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| 09:55.12 | alan | kbpp... oki |
| 09:55.18 | alan | i'll test this |
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| 10:00.36 | alan | hrw|work: kbpp like Kansas Bullying Prevention Program ? ^^ |
| 10:01.00 | hrw|work | ~google kbpp ipaq handhelds.org |
| 10:01.23 | alan | hrw|work: don't worry, it was just a joke... |
| 10:01.26 | alan | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:01.36 | alan | oki, stupid joke... |
| 10:01.45 | hrw|work | ;) |
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| 10:14.23 | alan | hrw|work: excuse me, but i won't find anything revelant about kbpp... |
| 10:16.12 | hrw|work | my mistake.. |
| 10:16.13 | hrw|work | http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/kbdd |
| 10:16.17 | hrw|work | kbdd not kbpp |
| 10:16.40 | alan | thaks a lot hrw|work |
| 10:18.08 | hrw|work | n |
| 10:18.09 | hrw|work | p |
| 10:21.03 | alan | ... i'm not sure this will work... it's not a n ipaq targetted keyboard, but was made for palm. Plus on my Zire it needed drivers |
| 10:21.20 | alan | and no brand is indicated on it... |
| 10:21.46 | alan | i'll try irk... |
| 10:25.24 | hrw|work | it is irda keyboard - LIRC consumer maybe will get it workiing somehow |
| 10:29.19 | alan | ok. Thanks for advice hrw|work. |
| 10:29.24 | alan | got to reboot |
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| 11:54.28 | goony | hi at all |
| 11:55.26 | goony | a question, where can I download official Sharp ROM for zaurus 5600? pls. I can't find on myzaurus.com etc :( |
| 11:56.49 | hrw|work | conics.net? trisoft.de? |
| 11:57.58 | goony | ok, see |
| 12:00.03 | goony | nothing |
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| 12:05.47 | hrw|work | http://galacticslacker.com/downloads/SYST5600.DBK/ |
| 12:07.39 | goony | hrw|work: thank you very much, I try now |
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| 12:39.11 | Ycros | hey, I just tried installing oz for the first time on my new C3000, twice, and it seems to have no effect, any idea what I could be doing wrong? |
| 12:55.46 | Ycros | trying again, this time checked the md5sums on this download |
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| 13:14.18 | Ycros | just tried it another time doing everything from scratch :( |
| 13:18.51 | alan | got something strange |
| 13:18.52 | alan | root@oz-opie-c750:/media/cf# ipkg -d home install /mnt/cf/irk_0.11-r2_arm.ipk |
| 13:18.52 | alan | Nothing to be done |
| 13:18.52 | alan | An error ocurred, return value: 4. |
| 13:18.52 | alan | Collected errors: |
| 13:18.52 | alan | Cannot find package irk. |
| 13:18.53 | alan | Check the spelling or perhaps run 'ipkg update' |
| 13:19.18 | alan | how the hell can the installer not find a local package ? |
| 13:20.40 | alan | it doesn't wor either when trying to install from the web.. |
| 13:20.53 | alan | ipkg update works fine |
| 13:21.14 | alan | upgrade find nothing to upgrade... |
| 13:21.23 | alan | tried a reboot... |
| 13:21.28 | alan | pfffff..... |
| 13:21.37 | alan | any idea ? |
| 13:25.54 | Ycros | I guess now is not a good time to ask questions, there doesn't seem to be anyone awake :P |
| 13:27.38 | alan | Ycros: ^^ |
| 13:27.59 | alan | Ycros: what is your problem ? |
| 13:28.04 | Ycros | I got a zaurus two days ago, and I'm trying to install oz on it |
| 13:28.13 | alan | what model ? |
| 13:28.17 | Ycros | c3000 |
| 13:28.26 | alan | what's the pb ? |
| 13:28.37 | alan | i mean when do you get stuck ? |
| 13:29.13 | Ycros | I follow the flashing process and it has no effect |
| 13:29.22 | alan | you mean no at all ? |
| 13:29.34 | alan | you still boot another rom ? |
| 13:30.36 | Ycros | it boots into the normal rom |
| 13:30.52 | Ycros | ahh |
| 13:30.59 | Ycros | does the cf card need to be fat32? |
| 13:31.06 | alan | yep |
| 13:31.10 | Ycros | aha |
| 13:31.10 | alan | or fat16 |
| 13:31.16 | Ycros | hmm |
| 13:31.22 | Ycros | it's fat32 |
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| 13:31.39 | alan | fat16 is better, i would say... |
| 13:31.44 | Ycros | I might try it |
| 13:31.50 | alan | as it is the default format |
| 13:31.59 | Ycros | I have to format it off the zaurus because I don't have a reader |
| 13:32.06 | alan | ok |
| 13:32.09 | Ycros | the only other device that uses it is my digicam |
| 13:32.19 | Ycros | which formats it as fat32 I think |
| 13:32.28 | alan | then there should be no pb using the CF card on it |
| 13:32.33 | alan | ... |
| 13:33.00 | alan | well, i think, but i'm not sure, that cf cards are formatted as fat16 by default |
| 13:33.17 | alan | so your cam should read/write on such format... |
| 13:36.24 | alan | ARGHHHHHH !!! i can install any package BUT the only one i want today : irk... |
| 13:37.07 | Ycros | :E |
| 13:37.15 | Ycros | I might just wait for the final release anyway |
| 13:37.45 | Ycros | OHHH |
| 13:37.47 | alan | Ycros: final release ? |
| 13:37.51 | Ycros | I know what I was doing wrong |
| 13:37.55 | alan | ? |
| 13:38.00 | alan | ^^ |
| 13:38.05 | Ycros | I didn't read step 1 clearly enough :P |
| 13:38.11 | alan | :p |
| 13:38.25 | alan | RULE #1 : alway read carefully |
| 13:38.51 | Ycros | I have to _rename the files_ :P |
| 13:39.49 | alan | hrw|work: irk and irk-belkin (what is that btw ?) packages are fscked... could you check them please ? |
| 13:40.26 | alan | hi lardman|work |
| 13:40.37 | lardman|work | hi alan |
| 13:40.42 | hrw|work | alan: read description(s) |
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| 13:48.10 | alan | hrw|work: i had not read the descriptions carefully... now i know i must not install both of them, but anyway, this was not what i wanted to do : i just wanted one of then, but none works... |
| 13:51.38 | alan | neither from a local installation, nor through the net... |
| 13:53.34 | lardman|work | the installation doesn't work? |
| 13:53.42 | alan | nope |
| 13:53.51 | lardman|work | what's the error? |
| 13:54.07 | lardman|work | I think there's a circular dependency chain with these files |
| 13:54.13 | alan | An error ocurred, return value: 4. |
| 13:54.13 | alan | Collected errors: |
| 13:54.13 | alan | Cannot find package irk-belkin. |
| 13:54.15 | lardman|work | iirc |
| 13:54.28 | lardman|work | just install one of them and use -force-depends |
| 13:57.21 | alan | lardman|work: doesn't change anything... |
| 13:59.49 | lardman|work | still won't install? |
| 13:59.51 | lardman|work | strange |
| 13:59.59 | lardman|work | what do the DEPENDS for both files show? |
| 14:02.06 | Ycros | yay it's booting |
| 14:02.23 | lardman|work | Ycros: good good, welcome to the clan |
| 14:03.56 | alan | Ycros: conrats !! |
| 14:04.57 | alan | lardman|work: libqpe1, libqte2, libgcc1, lic6. |
| 14:05.07 | alan | lardman|work: my machine feed is set... |
| 14:05.11 | Ycros | :D |
| 14:05.16 | alan | dependencies shouldn't be a pb... |
| 14:05.33 | lardman|work | alan: then why does one depend on the other? |
| 14:06.02 | alan | huh ? |
| 14:06.10 | lardman|work | I thought that was the issue? |
| 14:06.57 | alan | nono... the problem is i can't install neither irk, nor irk-belkin, which replaces irk... |
| 14:08.20 | alan | it must come from the packages themselves that must be broken... |
| 14:09.04 | lardman|work | yes, that's why I wanted to see the DEPENDS for the packages |
| 14:09.24 | lardman|work | Actually, where did you get these ipks from? |
| 14:10.29 | lardman|work | i.e. which feed are they in? |
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| 14:16.06 | alan | lardman|work: from /opie at openzaurus.org |
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| 14:21.44 | mynameisnotnick | hi |
| 14:23.00 | alan | hi mynameisnotnick |
| 14:24.45 | mynameisnotnick | can somebody tell me why my zaurus's disks are almost full after an installation of the OZ3.5.3? |
| 14:24.56 | hrw|work | mynameisnotnick: 5500? |
| 14:25.00 | mynameisnotnick | 5600 |
| 14:25.24 | hrw|work | 5600 have / where OZ is isntalled and /home which is not touched |
| 14:25.47 | hrw|work | and on devices with flash >24M we install more apps which you can remove |
| 14:26.29 | mynameisnotnick | hm / is now completely full and /home 99% |
| 14:27.35 | mynameisnotnick | the disk is split up into these two parts and another /tmp with tmpfs |
| 14:27.57 | mynameisnotnick | is this normal? |
| 14:28.06 | hrw|work | mynameisnotnick: /home/ contain you own files |
| 14:29.59 | mynameisnotnick | hmm, as I haven't really done anything with my zaurus |
| 14:29.59 | mynameisnotnick | -> how do I erase everything and reinstall a brandnew OZ 3.53? |
| 14:31.15 | hrw|work | backup /home/ somewhere and then rm -rf /home/* |
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| 14:39.42 | lardman|work | alan: the belkin one depends on lirc, what does lirc depend on? irk? |
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| 14:43.33 | mynameisnotnick | hmm can I somehow repartition the zaurus? |
| 14:43.46 | alan | mynameisnotnick: what for ? |
| 14:43.50 | mynameisnotnick | as I need more space in / and less in /home |
| 14:43.59 | alan | to install progs ? |
| 14:44.02 | mynameisnotnick | the / is stuffed up to 19.1 mb |
| 14:44.05 | mynameisnotnick | yes |
| 14:44.16 | lardman|work | create a new dest entry in ipkg.conf |
| 14:44.25 | mynameisnotnick | ->2,8 m left |
| 14:44.42 | CoreDump|work | 2.8MB is plenty :) |
| 14:44.53 | alan | CoreDump|work: ^^ |
| 14:45.22 | mynameisnotnick | no I wanted to install kismet&mplayer -> diskfull |
| 14:45.32 | lardman|work | I add 'dest home /home/packages' to /etc/ipkg.conf, then install stuff there |
| 14:45.34 | hrw|work | heh.. its nice to have 13M free on / |
| 14:46.03 | mynameisnotnick | yes |
| 14:47.28 | mynameisnotnick | but the /etc/ipgk.conf solution is not really what I want, as everything is then installed in /home which is really strange |
| 14:47.53 | mynameisnotnick | isn't there any other solution? |
| 14:48.12 | CoreDump|work | well, then remove unwanted apps from / |
| 14:48.22 | CoreDump|work | or install to SD |
| 14:49.09 | mynameisnotnick | why having 35 free Mb on /home and then doing these tricks? |
| 14:49.56 | CoreDump|work | you just said you don't want to install to home... |
| 14:50.18 | mynameisnotnick | I want to repartition the / and /home |
| 14:50.28 | mynameisnotnick | so that there is less /home and more / |
| 14:50.38 | CoreDump|work | I can't help you with that |
| 14:52.44 | mynameisnotnick | and which apps are useless/big/; which have you removed? |
| 14:53.41 | CoreDump|work | well, the opie ups you don't need for one? The default image installs all sort of stuff IIRC |
| 14:53.50 | CoreDump|work | s/uos/apps |
| 14:55.24 | mynameisnotnick | e.g? |
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| 14:57.50 | CoreDump|work | I don't have a poodle, only a collie. Dunno what's inside the default poodlke ROM |
| 14:58.06 | hrw|work | opie-mail, konqueror, wellenreiter |
| 14:59.26 | mynameisnotnick | is there a smaler webbrowser available then konqueror? |
| 14:59.43 | CoreDump|work | lynx heh |
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| 15:00.28 | mynameisnotnick | is there somewhere an airsnort package available? |
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| 15:03.26 | mynameisnotnick | and whatabout another 'more graphical' browser? |
| 15:10.35 | lardman|afk | konq or opera are your only options with Opie afaik |
| 15:11.00 | mynameisnotnick | why isn't there any firefox? |
| 15:12.05 | lardman|afk | For Opie? Do you want to port it from X11 to Qt? |
| 15:12.34 | lardman|afk | I think firefox is available for GPE, though it's pretty large |
| 15:12.39 | mynameisnotnick | I'm (not yet) a C programmer |
| 15:12.53 | lardman|afk | it's certainly not a job I'd want to do, ever. |
| 15:13.01 | lardman|afk | (porting firefox that is :) ) |
| 15:14.26 | mynameisnotnick | hmm I guess I'm going to install everything to /home |
| 15:14.40 | mynameisnotnick | it's the easiest (but worst) way |
| 15:14.40 | lardman|afk | it's not that bad really |
| 15:15.01 | lardman|afk | in some ways iot's bad, but it does mean you can flash a new ROM and keep everything in /home |
| 15:15.47 | mynameisnotnick | do you get also much freezes in combination with ipgk(graphical)? |
| 15:16.18 | lardman|afk | I never use it |
| 15:16.23 | lardman|afk | I'm running GPE anyway |
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| 15:24.56 | hrw|work | cu |
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| 15:30.48 | mynameisnotnick | i'm going off, bye |
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| 16:26.32 | mynameisnotnick | i added the /home/packages/ to the ipkg.conf but what else do I have to do in order to make the installed apps work($PATH etc.) |
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| 16:51.22 | mynameisnotnick | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:52.27 | mynameisnotnick | hmm, doesn't find anything now anymore |
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| 17:27.31 | hrw | [cc]smart: hi |
| 17:52.42 | lardman|work | bye |
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| 18:57.36 | [cc]smart | hrw: hi. |
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| 21:37.59 | InfoAddict | I was talking to someone in here the other day who was using a 5600 and was going to install 3.5.3 from 3.5.2, I prefer 3.5.2 because I had some issues, w/ 3 anybody else run into this? |
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| 22:56.13 | ljp | Info: ya |
| 23:02.15 | InfoAddict | yeah, 3.5.2 is smooth though |
| 23:02.33 | InfoAddict | I got kismet working in no time flat, which was nice. |