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| 03:08.46 | jnc | i'm having like, issues with my spitz |
| 03:08.48 | jnc | :( |
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| 06:37.54 | ljp | jnc: such as? |
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| 06:56.30 | alan|work | hello world. |
| 06:57.54 | benplaut | hello alan |
| 07:07.50 | alan|work | i have a plan, but i don't know if it can be done. I will try to add a X server on top of opie in order to use abiword in the X session. I think this should work. But i would like to know if all this can be installed in the internal memory, or if i have to sacrifice a sd card... is there an easy way to know how much space is needed before installing ? |
| 07:20.31 | benplaut | why not just use OZ/GPE or pdaXrom? |
| 07:20.36 | benplaut | n/m |
| 07:20.40 | benplaut | ledt... |
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| 10:02.11 | hrw|work | who use opie-today? |
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| 11:19.57 | Geo_KM | Hey guy's has oz-compat disappeared from the OZ distro? |
| 11:21.37 | hrw|work | it is sharp-compat-libs now |
| 11:21.50 | hrw|work | read releasenoes |
| 11:23.32 | Geo_KM | Cool thanks man.... Gotta admit I was a bit lazy about reading all the release notes 8-) |
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| 13:19.04 | alan|work | hi again and again. |
| 13:19.17 | alan|work | lardman|work : are you here ? |
| 13:21.33 | alan|work | lardman|work : i see on the openzaurus official webpage that you tried OPIE and GPE at the same time on a 750. Did you use a sd card or did you install everything in the internal memory ? |
| 13:37.00 | luke-jr_ | o.o |
| 13:37.42 | alan|work | hi luke-jr_ ! |
| 13:37.48 | luke-jr_ | hi |
| 13:37.55 | alan|work | why are yu surprised ? |
| 13:38.41 | luke-jr_ | who said I'm surprised? O.o |
| 13:39.12 | alan|work | ^^ thought the o.o was for O.o |
| 13:44.47 | alan|work | luke-jr_ : i wonder why gpe based imaes ruse to work with my Z. Troubles i meet are not specific to OZ ljr. i think i should nand restore before flashing, but don't have much time fow now. |
| 13:45.08 | luke-jr_ | alan|work: rename your home dir |
| 13:45.11 | alan|work | luke-jr_ : will you have some free time during july ? |
| 13:45.13 | luke-jr_ | alan|work: then try flashing |
| 13:45.17 | luke-jr_ | no idea |
| 13:45.22 | alan|work | ^^ |
| 13:48.22 | alan|work | luke-jr_ : i'm on hollydays from the 4rth of july til beginning of august. I have a thesis to write, and i want to use my Z while sunbathing. I'm looking for any good way to make my Z a powerfull word processor. |
| 13:49.18 | luke-jr_ | did you try renaming the home dir? =p |
| 13:49.25 | luke-jr_ | eg /home/alan to /home/alan-old |
| 13:50.20 | lardman|work | alan|work: I've not tried both at the same time, sorry - what are you looking at? |
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| 13:53.05 | alan|work | lardman|work : ho... strange... in the comments, i saw something i thought from you about keylaunch... never mind. I just wondered if opie ang gpe could stand in the same time in the internal memory... |
| 13:53.38 | alan|work | luke-jr_ : i did more than this : rm -fr /home/* before flashing. |
| 13:56.05 | alan|work | ok. got to go. One hour of bus, and i'm home :'( |
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| 14:55.18 | CoreDump|home | hi all |
| 14:55.44 | luke-jr_ | hi |
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| 15:28.10 | jnc | ljp: the display turns off and won't go back on, it doesn't survive a suspend, buttons not working... usual stuff i suppose |
| 15:28.23 | jnc | i've seen fixes posted though i can't remember where |
| 15:28.28 | jnc | they were burried in the oe forums |
| 15:28.48 | jnc | it also does not shut off when i halt() it |
| 15:29.09 | jnc | so this thing is really not very practical for me to take with anywhere |
| 15:29.11 | jnc | heh |
| 15:29.48 | jnc | i'm pretty sure most of this stuff works on the cacko 3kb1 rom, however that rom has applications that crash all the time and aren't as useful |
| 15:30.02 | jnc | what can i do to help? |
| 15:34.14 | pu_buha | jnc: you can work around the suspend hang by commenting out /dev/apm_bios in /etc/device_table |
| 15:34.25 | pu_buha | but, note, doing so causes apm -s not to work :( |
| 15:34.46 | pu_buha | if you do the above, you have to suspend the machine manually |
| 15:35.07 | pu_buha | (note: power button, frontlight button, or right arrow will all suspend the device) |
| 15:40.21 | jnc | haha |
| 15:40.24 | jnc | right arrow? |
| 15:41.09 | pu_buha | right arrow suspends my sl-5500 |
| 15:41.26 | jnc | oh okay |
| 15:41.32 | jnc | i've got an sl-c3000 |
| 15:41.39 | jnc | (spitz) |
| 15:42.07 | pu_buha | that's teh kind with the full QWERTY kbd, right? |
| 15:43.18 | jnc | well it's just about there |
| 15:43.27 | jnc | some things from American English keyboards are missing |
| 15:43.35 | jnc | most notably the escape key |
| 15:43.36 | jnc | heh |
| 15:43.45 | jnc | makes 'vim' kind of tough |
| 15:43.52 | pu_buha | doesn't the cancel button act as escape? |
| 15:43.57 | jnc | ohh |
| 15:44.00 | jnc | maybe it does |
| 15:44.15 | pu_buha | yeah, emacs, too... |
| 15:44.30 | jnc | i picked up my spitz for cheap, like 550usd with accessories used |
| 15:44.32 | jnc | has 1 dead pixel and some scratches |
| 15:44.49 | jnc | say, have you heard anyone manage to charge this thing from USB? |
| 15:45.15 | pu_buha | i don't recall |
| 15:45.35 | pu_buha | what kind of input power does it take? |
| 15:45.53 | pu_buha | (as in the DC end of the AC adaptor...) |
| 15:45.56 | jnc | 5.5v |
| 15:46.01 | jnc | just like USB |
| 15:47.38 | pu_buha | on the sl-5500, you can hook up: gel cell -> cigarette lighter adaptor -> sony walkman adapter -> zaurus and power it all day. |
| 15:47.59 | jnc | neat |
| 15:48.03 | pu_buha | it uses 5VDC |
| 15:48.13 | jnc | i'm looking to use this for GPS navigation and wardriving |
| 15:48.26 | jnc | i got the dcf-660w wifi card working so far |
| 15:48.31 | pu_buha | you might be able to find an adaptor suitable for your device at your local electronics store |
| 15:48.36 | jnc | also have HOST usb working with a goldx cable |
| 15:48.37 | jnc | yeah |
| 15:48.45 | jnc | going to put bluetooth on it :) |
| 15:48.58 | jnc | it's too bad bluetooth is not built in |
| 15:48.59 | pu_buha | host usb... nice! plug in a USB keyboard! |
| 15:49.02 | jnc | oh yeah |
| 15:49.13 | jnc | it needs a 35.00usd cable though |
| 15:49.21 | jnc | that took too long to figure out |
| 15:49.23 | jnc | hehe |
| 15:49.35 | pu_buha | the thumboard is useful but also a bit painful |
| 15:49.58 | pu_buha | what needs a $35 cable? |
| 15:50.07 | jnc | the sl-c3k |
| 15:50.30 | jnc | it needs a USB-miniA-M <-> USB-A-F cable |
| 15:50.45 | jnc | the USB Mini A is just a Mini B with pin 4 tied to ground |
| 15:50.58 | jnc | but there's no freakin' way to make one yourself, the connectors are too tiny |
| 15:51.06 | jnc | no chance of a solder bridge or anything |
| 15:52.29 | pu_buha | i used the wrong cable to attach my USB port to my motherboard |
| 15:52.40 | pu_buha | shorted power to ground *through* the scanner |
| 15:52.55 | jnc | eek |
| 15:53.02 | jnc | i think i may have done that.. oh no smoke here |
| 15:53.20 | jnc | i made a custom cable trying to figure out what the hell a mini A cable was |
| 15:53.31 | jnc | after i plugged it in, the Z stopped charging from USB |
| 15:53.32 | pu_buha | motherboard was fine, though. quality taiwaneese electronics ;) |
| 15:53.36 | jnc | :) |
| 15:54.14 | pu_buha | oh :(. that sounds like you fried it. |
| 15:55.07 | jnc | not sure |
| 15:55.18 | jnc | it's software controlled, says a Z developer |
| 15:55.23 | pu_buha | if you're not too afraid of opening up your Z, you could look for the fried component. usually, you can "smell" your way to it. |
| 15:55.24 | jnc | so until i have a test scenario, i won't know |
| 15:55.32 | jnc | yea |
| 15:55.45 | pu_buha | hopefully, the component will be replaceable, i.e. not the USB IC. |
| 15:55.58 | jnc | host usb works |
| 15:56.06 | jnc | and also usbd mode works... |
| 15:56.09 | jnc | so all is not lost |
| 15:56.13 | jnc | i just want to know! |
| 15:56.23 | jnc | the suspense is making me anxious :) |
| 15:57.06 | pu_buha | just close your eyes, click your heels together, and say "there's no juice like DC"... |
| 15:57.26 | jnc | nice |
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| 15:57.52 | jnc | if you're thinking about picking up a sl-ckxxx wait for the sl-c3100 |
| 15:58.08 | jnc | that's going to be badass |
| 15:58.13 | jnc | it's black too, which is much cooler |
| 15:58.34 | jnc | everyone knows that piano black finish makes you more intelligent *gasp* |
| 15:58.42 | pu_buha | how big is the c3k series? i imagine them to be much larger than the 5k series. |
| 15:58.58 | luke-jr_ | doubt it |
| 15:59.02 | luke-jr_ | 5k look pretty big |
| 15:59.02 | pu_buha | black makes it easier to hide in the dark |
| 15:59.57 | jnc | the c3k is hellah sturdy |
| 16:00.15 | jnc | i'm almost shamed to admit it, that i've fumbled and dropped my c3k once |
| 16:00.20 | jnc | not a single mark on it |
| 16:00.25 | pu_buha | *sniffle* the 5500 is *so* flimsy... |
| 16:00.47 | jnc | c3k is not a replacement for a laptop |
| 16:00.51 | jnc | it's just a big ass toy |
| 16:01.03 | pu_buha | i feel like the button panel is going to break off every time i press ESC |
| 16:01.03 | jnc | eek |
| 16:01.11 | luke-jr_ | jnc: My C760 does laptop-replacement well |
| 16:01.19 | pu_buha | not a replacement for a laptop? |
| 16:01.21 | jnc | luke-jr_: i'm sure it does with the w100 |
| 16:01.30 | luke-jr_ | w100? |
| 16:01.31 | jnc | and updated kernels |
| 16:01.34 | jnc | w100 graphics |
| 16:01.40 | luke-jr_ | ... |
| 16:01.43 | jnc | the c3k uses intel built in stuff |
| 16:01.45 | luke-jr_ | not like it has accel anything |
| 16:02.05 | jnc | c7xx uses w100 which is better supported by mplayer binaries and OZ distro |
| 16:02.11 | luke-jr_ | I'm still stuck on 2.4 also, due to poor mic support in 2.6 |
| 16:02.14 | jnc | c7xx also has a better screen |
| 16:02.15 | jnc | ah |
| 16:02.22 | jnc | where is the !@#$$@ microphone |
| 16:02.24 | jnc | i can't find it |
| 16:02.27 | luke-jr_ | it's a port |
| 16:02.32 | jnc | oh |
| 16:02.36 | luke-jr_ | plug a mic or headset into the audio jack |
| 16:02.36 | jnc | the headphone port? |
| 16:02.41 | jnc | ahhh |
| 16:02.46 | jnc | not both? |
| 16:02.47 | pu_buha | you actually plug the headphones and mic into the same place! |
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| 16:03.32 | jnc | WHAT!!!! -... YeaAHHHhhhh! |
| 16:03.39 | luke-jr_ | jnc: not both what? |
| 16:04.32 | pu_buha | i found that, if you record off /dev/dsp1, you have to resample the data (to double speed) if you want it to be audible on /dev/dsp |
| 16:04.48 | pu_buha | btw, what are /dev/dsp{2,3} for? |
| 16:05.11 | luke-jr_ | O.o |
| 16:05.19 | luke-jr_ | I wasn't aware of the #s |
| 16:05.39 | luke-jr_ | pu_buha: can you record and playback at once? |
| 16:05.51 | pu_buha | i haven't tried |
| 16:06.16 | pu_buha | dunno how i'd plug mic and phones into the same jack simultaneously, either :) |
| 16:06.30 | luke-jr_ | walmart has cellphone headsets w/ one plug |
| 16:06.34 | pu_buha | yeah, VoIPoZ would be sweet |
| 16:06.42 | jnc | haha |
| 16:06.45 | jnc | my voipod |
| 16:06.51 | pu_buha | heh |
| 16:06.53 | luke-jr_ | VoIPoWiFi |
| 16:07.21 | pu_buha | do the wallymart headsets fit the Z? |
| 16:07.47 | luke-jr_ | pu_buha: no, get an adaptor at Radio Shack =p |
| 16:07.52 | jnc | perhaps the Z has a 4 conductor jack |
| 16:07.58 | luke-jr_ | 3 conductor |
| 16:08.04 | luke-jr_ | mono input & output |
| 16:08.05 | jnc | oh |
| 16:08.08 | jnc | then you'd need the internal speaker |
| 16:08.11 | luke-jr_ | no |
| 16:08.20 | jnc | no? |
| 16:08.20 | jnc | ohhhh |
| 16:08.20 | jnc | mono in and out |
| 16:08.25 | jnc | that makes sense |
| 16:08.26 | luke-jr_ | you can even use normal headphones |
| 16:08.32 | luke-jr_ | and talk into one speaker |
| 16:08.41 | luke-jr_ | kinda weird, I think, tho |
| 16:09.12 | pu_buha | talk into one speaker? really! |
| 16:09.28 | luke-jr_ | I don't expect it would be overly easy or good quality =p |
| 16:09.30 | pu_buha | so i could hold my headphones beside my head, like a telephone handset? |
| 16:09.42 | luke-jr_ | if they fit that way o.O |
| 16:10.08 | pu_buha | most headphones are kinda springy :) |
| 16:10.30 | pu_buha | i'll have to try that later |
| 16:11.20 | luke-jr_ | ...why? |
| 16:11.30 | luke-jr_ | leave the asterisk server at home |
| 16:11.35 | luke-jr_ | =p |
| 16:11.54 | pu_buha | how would i do VoIP w/o asterisk? |
| 16:12.09 | pu_buha | (or skype... ick!) |
| 16:15.16 | luke-jr_ | ... |
| 16:15.19 | luke-jr_ | Asterisk is a PBX |
| 16:15.30 | luke-jr_ | equivalent to the phone company |
| 16:15.47 | luke-jr_ | MiniSIP, KPhone, LinPhone, etc are VoIP clients |
| 16:16.44 | pu_buha | hm. i've been using asterisk Dial to console as a softphone... |
| 16:17.08 | pu_buha | (and i *have* been a bit unhappy with it) |
| 16:19.56 | luke-jr_ | ... |
| 16:19.57 | luke-jr_ | omg |
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| 16:29.37 | jnc | =) |
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| 21:36.12 | _bender_ | hello oz |
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| 22:23.11 | Mt | Hi |
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| 22:30.32 | LordVan|Server | hi |
| 22:30.46 | LordVan|Server | anyone managed to use opie-dasher on OZ 3.5.3 SL5500(G)? |
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