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00:13.52 | sandman | Anyone alive? |
00:15.30 | benplaut | nope |
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02:52.47 | sandman | What's a good program to sync a Zaurus sl-5600? |
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03:17.56 | JustinP | sandman: kopi |
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03:41.57 | sandman | On linux, of course |
03:41.59 | sandman | kopi, kk |
03:42.04 | sandman | I wanted to use gnome, tho. |
03:42.32 | sandman | Also: What does "poodle" mean in all these images @ http://www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.3/sl5600/ ? |
03:56.49 | Piranha- | the release name |
03:56.54 | Piranha- | the 5500 is 'collie" |
03:57.14 | Piranha- | "I’m proud to present OpenZaurus 3.5.3/Opie for the Sharp SL-C1000 (Akita) and Sharp SL-C3000 (Spitz) devices" |
03:57.26 | Piranha- | Akita and Spitz are other ones... right on the main site |
04:04.08 | sandman | Darn |
04:04.16 | sandman | My zaurus is broken now :( |
04:04.28 | sandman | Piranha-: Are you there? |
04:04.49 | sandman | I followed the instructions @ http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/installation/sl-5600 to a T |
04:05.08 | sandman | my zaurus just sits @ the OpenZaurus bootsplash |
04:05.11 | sandman | Doesn't go any further. |
04:05.17 | sandman | And of course I cannot sync, either. |
04:06.03 | sandman | Just got my 5600 this morning in the mail :) All I wanted to do was install OZ |
04:06.06 | sandman | and now this :( |
04:07.26 | PenZ | did you reset after? |
04:07.49 | sandman | 512M CF Flash card: $50. Sharp SL-5600 Zaurus PDA: $230. Buying a wireless internet router for $60 because I was lead to believe it had wifi, shortly thereafter breaking the OZ using instructions @ openzaurus.org: Priceless. |
04:07.59 | sandman | Yes |
04:08.06 | sandman | Instructions followed to a T |
04:13.51 | PenZ | hmm apparently not .. somehow =-) although it may be less than obvious |
04:14.09 | PenZ | usually it's either the card wasn't the right FS type (FAT) or you didn't name the files right |
04:14.26 | JustinP | or the files weren't fully downloaded or were corrupted when copying to the card |
04:14.31 | JustinP | thank you, try again |
04:14.41 | JustinP | check the file sizes and md5sums |
04:15.58 | PenZ | yeah I did a corrupt install once, scratched my head for hours |
04:16.07 | PenZ | didn't occur to me at all =-3 |
04:16.39 | sandman | So the CF card cannot be fat filesystem? |
04:16.55 | sandman | Should I open up a terminal in the default zaurus os and type mkfs.ext2 or some such? |
04:17.04 | JustinP | no, it needs to be FAT |
04:17.09 | sandman | Oh. |
04:17.13 | sandman | ANd how do I make sure it's fat? |
04:17.15 | JustinP | well,might be able to be ext2 but FAT works best |
04:17.22 | JustinP | if you haven |
04:17.28 | JustinP | 't changed it it's FAT |
04:17.34 | sandman | k. It's FAT then. |
04:17.41 | PenZ | also note there's FAT and FAT16.. |
04:17.56 | sandman | Yip. FAT12, FAT16, VFAT |
04:18.03 | sandman | FAT12 is for floppies. |
04:18.18 | sandman | FAT16 for <2GB partitions, VFAT for greater. |
04:18.37 | sandman | FAT12 is fastest, 16 almost as fast as 12, VFAT slowest compared to the other two. |
04:21.42 | sandman | hmm |
04:21.50 | sandman | the md5sum of the images are ALL off |
04:24.03 | JustinP | how about the sizes? |
04:24.30 | sandman | Sizes are fine. |
04:24.38 | sandman | I'm redownloading, will check md5sum this time before xfer. |
04:24.50 | sandman | I'm placing backup images on the SD card |
04:24.57 | sandman | and the openzaurus stuff @ CF card |
04:25.18 | sandman | Can I recompile a kernel once I have this going? |
04:25.28 | sandman | I want to be able to do some hacking and the like while I'm resting |
04:25.44 | sandman | (I exercise a lot, and frankly it's boring when I just sit there staring @ the wall) |
04:25.53 | sandman | That's the real reason I got this, however strange that may sound :) |
04:26.25 | PenZ | x-{ |
04:26.25 | PenZ | dunno how I always end up with this nick |
04:26.50 | sandman | Do you run irssi? |
04:26.53 | sandman | Perhaps it's in your settings file. |
04:33.00 | sandman | Looked like md5sums are good this time |
04:33.16 | JustinP | check them on the card too |
04:34.15 | JustinP | getting OE and bitbake is the easiest way to do compiling for the zaurus |
04:36.13 | sandman | OE? |
04:37.26 | sandman | I wish I could get linux running on my e355 |
04:37.39 | sandman | Toshiba e355 |
04:37.57 | sandman | 400MHz pxa255 (I think) 64M RAM |
04:41.52 | sandman | Is there a way to setup a bootloader? |
04:42.00 | sandman | So I could choose to boot from different filesystems? |
04:44.06 | sandman | Rock on! |
04:44.11 | sandman | The initrd was corrupted |
04:44.13 | sandman | That was the problem |
04:44.18 | sandman | You know, other people have had this problem before. |
04:44.28 | sandman | You should add an md5sum section in there for verification, you know? |
04:44.30 | sandman | In the instructions |
04:52.18 | sandman | Okay, GPE booted up. All is good in my world now |
04:52.39 | sandman | Now how do I transfer files from my desktop to the pda? |
05:04.57 | sandman | Piranha-: Alive? |
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06:23.55 | alan_ | hi ! |
06:27.31 | hrw|gone | for brave collie users: http://www.hrw.one.pl/tmp/oz353-r21/ will contain (few minutes to upload) OZ 3.5.3 bootstrap and opie images with -r21 kernel. they will probably work OK but are not tested yet on any device. If someone find a problem please give me an info (via msg here or privmsg). dont put that URL in any forums as they are temporary and after testing if they work they will be put in 3.5.3 upgrades. |
06:27.40 | hrw | ho |
06:28.18 | alan_ | hrw: yop yop |
06:34.45 | hrw | looks like there is no brave collie users |
06:34.56 | hrw | noone fetched it during night |
06:50.45 | sandman | anyone have experience w/ usb networking? |
06:51.10 | benplaut | i've had experience at failure w/ usb networking :) |
06:52.42 | hrw | ask me later - I go to work now (and have no problems with usbnet) |
06:56.13 | alan_ | sandman, maybe i can help you |
06:56.32 | alan_ | sandman: i use usb networking. |
06:56.59 | sandman | okay |
06:57.11 | sandman | i loaded usbnet, but ifconfig -a doesn't reveal a usb0 device |
06:57.28 | sandman | I can't explicitly ifconfig usb0, either. |
06:57.34 | alan_ | mmmm... what kernel on your desktop pc ? |
06:57.37 | sandman | 2.6 |
06:57.48 | alan_ | can you be more precise ? |
06:57.51 | sandman | 2.6.11-gentoo-r9 |
06:58.16 | alan_ | just a minute |
06:59.27 | alan_ | sandman: http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/howto/usb-networking/ |
06:59.47 | alan_ | at the end of the page, there is a comment by realloc |
06:59.54 | alan_ | about gentoo users. |
07:00.52 | sandman | I see it. |
07:01.01 | sandman | That's imply about init.d, though. I read the page already :) |
07:02.13 | alan_ | arf... i'm a mandrake user, you are a gentoo user. I think this is enoughto understand you know much more about linux than me ;) |
07:02.32 | sandman | :) It's okay. |
07:02.34 | sandman | What did you do? |
07:02.39 | sandman | Simply modprobe usbnet, yes? |
07:02.45 | sandman | Then ifconfig usb0 and all that junk |
07:02.53 | alan_ | i used mandrake control center... |
07:02.54 | sandman | THen you ssh in, yes? |
07:03.05 | sandman | Meh, Mandrake. |
07:03.13 | alan_ | hehe |
07:03.16 | sandman | Why don't people just learn the core commands |
07:03.22 | sandman | They're easier to use anyway |
07:03.36 | sandman | It's like learning a foreign language. |
07:03.39 | alan_ | what is you Z model ? |
07:03.44 | sandman | Once you learn most of the words, you can determine the rest by context |
07:03.50 | sandman | sl-5600 |
07:03.56 | alan_ | what image ? |
07:03.59 | sandman | gpe |
07:04.12 | alan_ | 3.5.3 ? |
07:04.15 | sandman | Indeed. |
07:04.24 | alan_ | lsmod ? |
07:04.29 | alan_ | on the Z |
07:05.15 | sandman | That doesn't make a difference |
07:05.17 | sandman | But okay |
07:06.04 | sandman | There's a bunch of stuff there |
07:06.13 | alan_ | sandman: i know i need the g_ether module to be loaded, but i think it's reealted to the 2.6 kernel i use on my 750 |
07:06.31 | sandman | How did you get a 2.6 kernel on the 750? Compiled it? |
07:06.45 | alan_ | yeah, but it is also on the official image. |
07:07.25 | alan_ | just for clamshells, for now. |
07:08.33 | sandman | Aye. |
07:08.38 | sandman | I intend to hack the shizam out of my 5600 |
07:08.41 | sandman | Just got it today |
07:09.36 | alan_ | <PROTECTED> |
07:09.45 | sandman | Yes. |
07:09.58 | alan_ | ok. that is a good point. |
07:10.01 | sandman | I followed the instructions @ openzaurus.org, and they failed :) |
07:10.08 | sandman | Which is the second time they've failed so far. |
07:10.26 | alan_ | then i guess i cannot help you much... |
07:10.28 | sandman | The imaging instructions for 5600 should have a md5sum section to verify the transfers from pc to pda |
07:10.41 | sandman | Due to the unreliability of the software |
07:10.48 | sandman | Failed to transfer properly twice |
07:11.09 | alan_ | sandman: for the md5, you should ask hrw|gone when he is back. |
07:11.31 | alan_ | sandman: what closed source soft ? |
07:11.58 | sandman | The soft that comes on the zaurus cd |
07:12.06 | sandman | Secondly, are you @ the computer which you use to connect to your z? |
07:12.11 | alan_ | ho, yeah. |
07:12.16 | alan_ | yes |
07:12.17 | sandman | send me the results of your lsmod please |
07:12.26 | sandman | Or have you built most of your modules in? |
07:12.47 | alan_ | never recompiled my kernel. I use the mdk officials. |
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07:15.13 | alan_ | sandman: http://pastebin.ca/18210 |
07:18.22 | sandman | holy modules |
07:18.30 | alan_ | ^^ |
07:18.32 | sandman | Your kernel must be as big as windows' :) |
07:20.04 | alan_ | as long as it is stable, it's all i need. |
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07:23.22 | alan_ | bouhouhou... i miss snes9x on my z... (T_T) |
07:23.43 | hrw|work | re |
07:23.44 | sandman | That should be helpful |
07:24.44 | sandman | I want to install reiser4 @ CF card :) |
07:24.59 | sandman | Either that or ext[2,3] @ 1k blocks on it |
07:25.03 | sandman | So I can work with sourcecode |
07:25.26 | sandman | I'm out for hte night, cyall lata |
07:28.23 | hrw|work | sandman: reiserfs4 is possible |
07:28.37 | hrw|work | help with 2.6 kernel for poodle so you will get rfs4 |
08:01.17 | StarScream | hrw|work: h8i |
08:01.18 | alan_ | yo XorA |
08:01.19 | StarScream | hi |
08:01.22 | StarScream | hrw|work: it worked |
08:01.27 | StarScream | hrw|work: tried it last night |
08:01.51 | hrw|work | StarScream: you tried collie-* files or that older one? |
08:02.07 | StarScream | hrw|work: i tried the ones you asked me to yesterday |
08:02.28 | StarScream | http://www.hrw.one.pl/tmp/oz353-r21/ |
08:02.32 | StarScream | those ones. |
08:03.22 | hrw|work | bootstrap or opie one? |
08:03.27 | StarScream | its the first r21 kernel that has booted on my Z, and it went to sleep and woke up again. it was a little slow to do so but none the less it worked. |
08:03.44 | StarScream | boot strap, you said you were going to build opie later |
08:04.17 | hrw|work | and after 22:20 my time (10:03 now) I uploaded newer ones - bootstrap and opie |
08:04.18 | StarScream | i brought my Z to work today so i can test other stuff if you want |
08:04.45 | StarScream | ah yeh, just refreshed. I see them both now.. |
08:04.51 | StarScream | you want me to try em? |
08:05.39 | hrw|work | if you can it would be nice |
08:06.02 | StarScream | yeh no probs |
08:06.06 | hrw|work | great |
08:07.26 | StarScream | hrw|work: thanks for your effort to fix the issues. It is really appreciated. |
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08:25.54 | StarScream | hrw|work: sorry, my cf card reader is playing up on this machine...going to try another machine. |
08:26.13 | hrw|work | no problem |
08:26.51 | hrw|work | I'm building gpe-image now |
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08:45.49 | StarScream | hrw|work: erm..it keeps coming up with a red warning message now |
08:45.55 | StarScream | saying i am running the wrong kernel |
08:46.11 | StarScream | and that its going to sleep |
08:48.05 | hrw|work | ok - what it say? found kernel 2.4.18-...-3.5.3 or without 3.5.3? |
08:48.19 | hrw|work | in other words - which found, which want? |
08:49.09 | StarScream | you are running 2.4.180rmn7-pro3-embedix- and it wants embedix-3.5.3 |
08:49.35 | hrw|work | ok. so only kernel need change |
08:49.45 | StarScream | yeh |
08:50.41 | hrw|work | can you flash kernel from OZ 3.5.3 upgrades then? |
08:51.43 | StarScream | hrw|work: well i couldn't use the r21 kernel before...the only thing that has booted with r21 is the link you gave me yesterday. |
08:52.18 | StarScream | mine was one of the ones that hung on updating modules with the r21 in "upgrades" |
08:52.41 | hrw|work | ok |
08:53.06 | hrw|work | I meant: flash only kernel from 3.5.3 upgrades - this should remove warning |
08:53.26 | StarScream | ah ok. will try that. |
08:54.36 | hrw|work | thx |
08:57.55 | StarScream | hrw|work: question, does it need to be zImage or will zimage work...because for some reason when i copy zImage to my cf it converts it to zimage |
08:58.10 | hrw|work | zImage |
08:58.19 | hrw|work | you can rename it on Z |
08:58.27 | StarScream | am@nibbler:/mnt/cf$ mv zimage zImage |
08:58.27 | StarScream | mv: `zimage' and `zImage' are the same file |
08:58.30 | hrw|work | mv zimage z;mv z zImage |
09:05.45 | StarScream | hrw|work: well it works and it doesn't work :) the kernel boots |
09:05.58 | StarScream | but when it is supposed to load opie |
09:06.11 | StarScream | then light comes on, and i get a line at the bottom |
09:06.13 | StarScream | but thats it |
09:06.44 | hrw|work | ok |
09:06.57 | hrw|work | can you restart collie and press key to NOT load opie? |
09:07.04 | hrw|work | then I will tell what to do |
09:07.24 | StarScream | ok, which key do i press to not load opie |
09:07.34 | hrw|work | anyone |
09:07.40 | StarScream | oh ok :) |
09:07.40 | hrw|work | from keyboard |
09:08.17 | StarScream | ok i have login |
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09:10.19 | hrw|work | login as root |
09:10.41 | hrw|work | then: export QTDIR=/opt/QtPalmtop/ |
09:11.09 | hrw|work | and try: /opt/QtPalmtop/bin/qpe -nodaemon -terminal 2 |
09:11.42 | hrw|work | and say what was last.. (best way for it is doing it over external connection ;) |
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09:13.39 | StarScream | hrw|work: yeh i did that...and it just put me into that screen again. |
09:14.09 | StarScream | the writing was too fast for me to see, and i don't have my cradle here unfortunately |
09:14.22 | hrw|work | ok |
09:14.40 | hrw|work | cd /opt/QtPalmtop/plugins/; mv applets applets- |
09:14.49 | hrw|work | and then try to restart opie |
09:15.11 | StarScream | hrw|work: do i need to reboot or can i force quit opie? |
09:15.25 | hrw|work | reboot |
09:16.06 | StarScream | ok. do i still export qtdir? |
09:17.03 | StarScream | actually if i just echo $QTDIR it comes up |
09:17.08 | hrw|work | ok |
09:17.26 | hrw|work | you can try with "qpe" or just "/etc/init.d/opie start" |
09:19.19 | StarScream | ok, well i did the mv applets applets- |
09:19.31 | StarScream | and when i type qpe i get |
09:19.41 | hrw|work | opie working? |
09:19.51 | StarScream | ermm..nope..it spits me back to the CLI |
09:20.33 | StarScream | and QConfig::OConfig() <unknown>: QDevice reports transformation to be 3 |
09:20.47 | hrw|work | ignore that |
09:21.02 | StarScream | it said its has started in daemon mode |
09:21.18 | StarScream | qt_init() - starting in daemon mode |
09:21.19 | hrw|work | start "qpe -nodaemon" |
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09:23.11 | StarScream | ok, it started but its still got the same screen sorry |
09:23.51 | StarScream | maybe i should try re-flashing it since my cf card was playing up |
09:24.00 | StarScream | it might have been something dodgey happening there? |
09:25.59 | hrw|work | maybe |
09:26.20 | hrw|work | maybe I will look into it during evening |
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10:02.46 | alan_ | does anyone here have a working snes9x on gpe ? |
10:03.00 | XorA | alan_: I still need a rom |
10:03.11 | alan_ | ok. |
10:03.32 | XorA | alan_: email a small one to xora@xora.org.uk |
10:03.49 | alan_ | ok |
10:04.01 | alan_ | dcc doesn't work from here... |
10:04.15 | XorA | alan_: you are all firewalled away |
10:04.32 | alan_ | yeah, i think so. |
10:06.43 | hrw|work | NOTE: package gpe-image-1.0-r17: task do_build: completed |
10:07.18 | alan_ | hrw|work: 3.5.4 on the way... |
10:07.44 | hrw|work | alan_: I'm rebuilding 3.5.3 images for collie with r21 kernel |
10:09.12 | alan_ | gpe on collie ? |
10:09.20 | alan_ | that is great. |
10:10.51 | alan_ | hrw|work: you really do a great job for all the OZ users. thank you once more. |
10:11.10 | XorA | god, I want my collie back now |
10:11.19 | alan_ | <PROTECTED> |
10:11.56 | alan_ | XorA: check your mails. |
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10:13.24 | alan_ | XorA: if it works on your and not on mine, i swear i leave to UK in the minute to take yours by force... |
10:14.33 | XorA | alan_: I got it, I shall attempt to debug over the day |
10:14.41 | alan_ | ok. |
10:15.47 | alan_ | on afternet #snes9x, they told me snes9x doesn't use SDL. |
10:15.48 | XorA | alan_: loads but screen is blank |
10:15.54 | alan_ | same as here |
10:18.20 | alan_ | XorA: there is a qpe version in OE. would it work ? |
10:19.05 | XorA | alan_: possible |
10:19.14 | alan_ | ok. i build it so. |
10:26.39 | alan_ | XorA: it failed here. can you try ? |
10:26.50 | XorA | alan_: no qpe |
10:27.03 | alan_ | what does it mean ? |
10:27.50 | XorA | alan_: I have no qpe setup to compile/test against |
10:28.31 | alan_ | qpe is another kind of image, right ? like OPIE ? |
10:34.23 | XorA | alan_: opie is built on qte/qpe |
10:35.58 | alan_ | ok. that is what i thought. |
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10:57.46 | alan_ | XorA: snes9x sdl qpe has too much dependencies... it won't make it. |
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11:28.07 | Ycros | alan_: it goes blank on qpe as well it seems |
11:28.29 | Ycros | well |
11:28.32 | Ycros | I get sound |
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11:50.59 | alan_ | Ycros: yeah, that is what i had when i was on OPIE. thank you. |
11:52.37 | XorA | especially as it draws the OSD fine |
11:53.02 | alan_ | ok, let's try the magical sommoning : "it wooOOoorks on pdaxrooOOoom..." ^^ |
11:53.21 | XorA | alan_: pdaXrom has hacks to support 24bit visuals on 16 bit screens |
11:53.51 | alan_ | ho. so can this be related to the 16bit screens ? |
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11:54.08 | alan_ | so why does the sound not work, then ? |
11:54.24 | Ycros | my sound works |
11:54.34 | alan_ | yeah, but not mine... |
11:54.56 | XorA | was just a guess |
11:55.20 | XorA | Ive never used snes9x before so not actualy sure what it should look like |
11:55.29 | alan_ | Ycros: i've been told some time ago that under qpe, sdl was kind of broken... |
11:55.59 | Ycros | well I play doom |
11:56.00 | Ycros | and scummvm |
11:56.09 | Ycros | and mplayer (which isn't really a game) |
11:56.19 | alan_ | do you ? mmm... then sdl works. |
11:56.32 | alan_ | so good point : it's not sdl related. |
11:56.39 | Ycros | mind you scumm has.... keyboard issues |
11:56.49 | Ycros | in that I can't actually quit the game or save or anything |
11:57.12 | Ycros | I can probably rebind the keys to something else |
11:59.29 | alan_ | XorA: all i know is that for X version of snes9x, video is sent to X, audio to /dev/dsp. |
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12:44.23 | cosmo- | hm, my Z keyboard stopped working. is that a known bug? |
12:45.32 | alan|callmeBauer | never heard about this... |
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13:02.14 | urs | cosmo-: have you tried rebooting? |
13:02.50 | urs | cosmo-: I occasionally get kernel oopses and afterwards no key works. Only rebooting appears to help |
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14:19.43 | CoreDump|home | hi |
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