| 00:00.02 | EnceloAMD | the same here |
| 00:00.06 | EnceloAMD | just stop and retry |
| 00:19.46 | jnc | JustinP: "shall we dance?" =) |
| 00:27.42 | JustinP | jnc: I'm ready |
| 00:27.47 | JustinP | jnc: the files are all up |
| 00:30.49 | jnc | =) |
| 00:30.53 | jnc | i will try in a few minutes |
| 01:08.12 | jnc | okay |
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| 01:25.44 | Com[Plex] | *sigh* |
| 01:25.48 | Com[Plex] | now my cf card wont mount |
| 01:26.26 | Com[Plex] | plug in card: zaurus hangs. anythign I press doesnt happen, until I take out the cf card and then it all happens in a flurry |
| 01:27.34 | JustinP | what kind of cf card? |
| 01:27.51 | Com[Plex] | samsung 128mb |
| 01:28.46 | JustinP | hmmm...did you try rebooting? |
| 01:29.05 | Com[Plex] | well, about to. |
| 01:29.33 | Com[Plex] | just tried suspending first, my ritual suspend before i reboot thing to keep it from having the 'double reboot hangup issue" |
| 01:29.42 | Com[Plex] | and it sat there for a good 20 seconds before suspending |
| 01:29.55 | Com[Plex] | what i want to know is |
| 01:30.21 | Com[Plex] | why the hell do I keep getting the popup asking me if I want to search the cf card for documents when I have the doc tab disabled? |
| 01:30.52 | Com[Plex] | rebooting |
| 01:32.12 | JustinP | Yeah, I also hate that |
| 01:32.26 | JustinP | perhaps you're removing a file on the card or something? |
| 01:33.13 | Com[Plex] | yeah, .opiestorage |
| 01:33.21 | Com[Plex] | but that shouldnt have anything to do with it. |
| 01:33.30 | Com[Plex] | I wonder if I removed the mediummount applet if that would help |
| 01:34.06 | Com[Plex] | uh. okay, copied konq to the cf card. it can read it now after the reboot. |
| 01:34.14 | JustinP | have you checked if that file is maybe it? |
| 01:35.03 | Com[Plex] | try to install I get an error. cannot satisfy dependencies libpcre0 and libstdc__6 and libqte |
| 01:35.28 | Com[Plex] | libqte2 i mean |
| 01:35.31 | JustinP | ok, you probably need to install those then |
| 01:35.38 | Com[Plex] | hhehe |
| 01:35.41 | JustinP | they should be in the feeds |
| 01:37.31 | Com[Plex] | says qte2 is installed... |
| 01:37.37 | Com[Plex] | hmm |
| 01:39.51 | JustinP | the others you *need* to intall definately |
| 01:40.21 | Com[Plex] | *sigh* |
| 01:40.23 | Com[Plex] | segfault |
| 01:40.39 | Com[Plex] | command line here we go |
| 01:40.48 | Com[Plex] | it would be nice if I could use the graphical package manager. |
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| 01:40.59 | Com[Plex] | its kind of lame to have it in there, and not have it wokring |
| 01:41.02 | Com[Plex] | lol |
| 01:41.08 | JustinP | try opie-aqpkg |
| 01:41.17 | JustinP | better but still has some problems |
| 01:41.27 | JustinP | command-line isn't that bad |
| 01:41.41 | JustinP | you're typing in IRC....it's the same basic thing |
| 01:41.58 | Com[Plex] | :) |
| 01:42.19 | Com[Plex] | its just a lot easier to select a stack of apps to install with the touch of a poitery thingy |
| 01:42.26 | Com[Plex] | pointer |
| 01:42.57 | JustinP | yes, but stack is guaranteed to fail in the graphical app due to memory leaks |
| 01:43.18 | Com[Plex] | hmm. |
| 01:43.33 | Com[Plex] | where does the file space go when I try to install something and it fails half way through? |
| 01:43.38 | Com[Plex] | I want to recover this 3 megs of space.. |
| 01:43.43 | Com[Plex] | yes, 3 |
| 01:43.46 | JustinP | rm /tmp/ipkg* |
| 01:44.04 | Com[Plex] | thanks :) |
| 01:44.13 | JustinP | other than that...if it started installing but didn't finish you may need to install then uninstall |
| 01:44.16 | JustinP | np |
| 01:44.17 | Com[Plex] | aargh! openzauruz.org hostn name lokup failure. |
| 01:48.50 | Com[Plex] | l;ol |
| 01:49.06 | Com[Plex] | would be nice if I hadnt hit the write protect tab on the sd card |
| 01:49.17 | Com[Plex] | sso... |
| 01:49.25 | Com[Plex] | gotta reboot after inserting an sd card too? |
| 01:49.30 | Com[Plex] | that a feature or a bug? |
| 01:49.32 | Com[Plex] | lol |
| 01:49.50 | JustinP | shouldn't have to |
| 01:50.06 | Com[Plex] | resetting |
| 01:51.36 | Com[Plex] | I piss and moan alot when working with this. |
| 01:51.40 | Com[Plex] | but I still have fun |
| 01:51.53 | Com[Plex] | did I tell you what I was using this for? |
| 01:52.02 | Com[Plex] | going to use it as a controller for my carputer |
| 01:52.16 | Com[Plex] | until I can get a nice little touchscreen lcd. but thats 300$ away. |
| 01:52.29 | Com[Plex] | for now, Ill be using this to control winamp through the web |
| 01:54.59 | Com[Plex] | well, the space eaters are not in /tmp/ |
| 01:55.06 | Com[Plex] | got any other suggestions? |
| 01:56.01 | jnc | JustinP: i'm starting to poke dioxide |
| 01:56.14 | jnc | 33$ ? |
| 01:56.28 | Com[Plex] | ? |
| 01:57.56 | jnc | Com[Plex]: i was referring to an image that JustinP built |
| 01:58.58 | Com[Plex] | oh |
| 02:01.27 | Com[Plex] | does the old eongames programs work okay with 3.5.3? |
| 02:01.38 | Com[Plex] | I bought like 3 of the fdamned things back in the day |
| 02:01.59 | Com[Plex] | rocket elite, msr, the the pa bustem or whatever game that was |
| 02:02.11 | jnc | nice |
| 02:02.18 | Com[Plex] | very cool games |
| 02:02.30 | Com[Plex] | worthg every penny. especially bustem. |
| 02:02.42 | Com[Plex] | msr was totally cool. but not as easy to play as bustem |
| 02:03.23 | Com[Plex] | what was the other one... |
| 02:03.28 | Com[Plex] | intersteller flames? |
| 02:03.41 | Com[Plex] | it was like DESCENT. |
| 02:04.04 | Com[Plex] | very impressive. |
| 02:04.53 | Com[Plex] | is there a sort of 'alt-tab' on this thing? |
| 02:05.07 | Com[Plex] | when I have apps on the task bar and cant find the stylus.. |
| 02:05.17 | Com[Plex] | I am allways losing that friggin stylus. |
| 02:05.45 | jnc | i have formed a habit of keeping the stylus hanging off my lip |
| 02:06.00 | jnc | like it was, i suppose perhaps a cigarette |
| 02:06.01 | Com[Plex] | in fact, the words "friggin stylus' come out of my mouth so often, my girlfriend thoguh thats what it was called. a "frig unstylus" |
| 02:06.20 | Com[Plex] | I used to keep it in my ear. but the hole has since closed up |
| 02:06.25 | Com[Plex] | I guess I dont use the Z enough |
| 02:06.48 | Com[Plex] | lol |
| 02:06.49 | jnc | " I WILL PRETEND YOU DID NOT JUST SAY that." thank you. |
| 02:06.53 | Com[Plex] | hahah |
| 02:07.07 | Com[Plex] | well its hard to keep your ear guaged out when you work at a high school. |
| 02:07.23 | jnc | ah |
| 02:07.26 | Com[Plex] | so maybe you can help me. |
| 02:07.33 | Com[Plex] | back to the Z I mean |
| 02:07.45 | jnc | you could bind a key to it |
| 02:07.48 | jnc | if that even worked |
| 02:07.52 | Com[Plex] | I am loseing space every time I try to install something and the installed craps out. one way or another |
| 02:07.54 | jnc | which i don't think it does in 3.5.3 |
| 02:08.02 | jnc | oh |
| 02:08.07 | jnc | not sure about that |
| 02:08.16 | jnc | i have a spitz and almost nothing works right |
| 02:08.21 | jnc | c3000 |
| 02:08.21 | Com[Plex] | JustinP said nuke /tmp/ipkg* |
| 02:08.24 | Com[Plex] | I see nothing |
| 02:08.28 | Com[Plex] | whats spitz? |
| 02:08.32 | Com[Plex] | oh. nevermind |
| 02:08.40 | Com[Plex] | open mkouth then read the answer |
| 02:09.02 | Com[Plex] | hahah |
| 02:09.10 | Com[Plex] | glad I dont have a c3000! |
| 02:09.21 | Com[Plex] | well. get used to it I suppose. |
| 02:09.35 | Com[Plex] | ive had this thing since 2000, and it still dont work right. |
| 02:09.55 | Com[Plex] | has there ever been a "stable" release? |
| 02:13.19 | Com[Plex] | wtf. how do I log in over ssh.. whats the default password? |
| 02:14.26 | jnc | it's probably disabled, or default password 'zaurus' |
| 02:16.48 | Com[Plex] | whastsd the command to run aqpkg? |
| 02:16.55 | Com[Plex] | I dont see aqpkg anywhere |
| 02:17.29 | jnc | i don't know |
| 02:17.33 | jnc | maybe you have to install it |
| 02:18.01 | Com[Plex] | why does it think my sd is read only still? |
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| 02:19.21 | Com[Plex] | grrr |
| 02:19.32 | jnc | okay, round 6, untar GPE rootfs and pray for rabies |
| 02:20.32 | jnc | rabiesrabiesrabies |
| 02:20.44 | Com[Plex] | rabies is good? |
| 02:20.47 | Com[Plex] | wtf is rabies |
| 02:20.57 | jnc | very bad disease for dogs and animals |
| 02:21.29 | jnc | i just made that up |
| 02:21.42 | jnc | i've never heard anyone say they pray for rabies |
| 02:22.42 | JustinP | jnc: good lluck |
| 02:22.49 | jnc | JustinP: did the zImage get fixed? |
| 02:22.56 | Com[Plex] | ahh, cool. it will be a new trend. like "keeklesaurus" |
| 02:23.00 | JustinP | jnc: no |
| 02:23.07 | JustinP | use the upgrades one |
| 02:23.24 | jnc | damn the world and its diaper |
| 02:23.37 | JustinP | jnc: sorry... |
| 02:23.46 | jnc | i can make an expression for every occasion |
| 02:23.49 | JustinP | jnc: mickeyl is working on it |
| 02:24.05 | jnc | mickeyl is the same one working on 2.6.x goodness? |
| 02:24.21 | JustinP | I don't think that's him, no |
| 02:24.39 | JustinP | mickey is a big oe dev though |
| 02:24.46 | jnc | there seems to be a lot more stuff in this new rootfs tarball |
| 02:24.57 | JustinP | good |
| 02:25.04 | jnc | or less bad |
| 02:25.06 | jnc | heh |
| 02:25.27 | JustinP | hey, my c3000 is perfectly usable ;-) |
| 02:25.38 | jnc | i blame the cat for laying on its back and shaking a furry penis at me |
| 02:25.49 | jnc | you? i cannot blame |
| 02:25.52 | JustinP | it just doesn't have quite all the nice little features of the Sharp rom |
| 02:25.58 | Com[Plex] | lol |
| 02:26.09 | JustinP | it't getting there, though |
| 02:26.16 | JustinP | I'm typing this on it right now |
| 02:29.42 | JustinP | I'm fixing things up one piece at a time |
| 02:29.52 | JustinP | got my audio remote working ;-) |
| 02:30.12 | jnc | that's kind of nifty |
| 02:30.46 | jnc | JustinP: loadkeys is missing from GPE image |
| 02:30.51 | jnc | i mentioned that before |
| 02:32.06 | jnc | this is a first boot |
| 02:32.11 | jnc | looks like it is installing things |
| 02:32.43 | JustinP | good |
| 02:33.02 | JustinP | ummm...yeah, you should be able to install it fine |
| 02:33.05 | JustinP | console-tools |
| 02:33.19 | JustinP | should be in newer images |
| 02:33.28 | jnc | it was blocked by busybox last time i checked |
| 02:33.44 | JustinP | should work now |
| 02:33.56 | JustinP | there's a thing vcalled update-alternatives set up |
| 02:34.16 | jnc | oooooh |
| 02:34.21 | jnc | that's tre debianish |
| 02:34.23 | JustinP | :-) |
| 02:34.43 | jnc | i was just thinking, geeze, why is there no etc-alternatives |
| 02:34.56 | jnc | or whatitiscalled |
| 02:36.09 | jnc | at this rate, it would make more sense to have a basic image for both QPE and GPE |
| 02:36.24 | jnc | then depending on a 3rd data file or set of packages, install on first boot |
| 02:36.25 | jnc | no? |
| 02:36.35 | jnc | uh oh |
| 02:36.46 | jnc | Out of Memory: Killed process 4711 (localedef) |
| 02:36.46 | JustinP | bootstrap is the base of both |
| 02:36.48 | jnc | that's not good |
| 02:37.19 | jnc | right after "Configuring locale-base-fr-fr" and before "Configuring ntpdate" |
| 02:37.46 | JustinP | hmmm |
| 02:37.50 | jnc | perhaps swap should be needed |
| 02:37.59 | JustinP | yeah.... |
| 02:38.23 | JustinP | you can always set up your swap and run ipkg |
| 02:38.31 | Com[Plex] | unsatisfied reccomendation for kernel yadda yadda. |
| 02:38.35 | Com[Plex] | is that bad? |
| 02:39.01 | jnc | JustinP: of course, but without any user interaction it shouldn't fail |
| 02:40.56 | JustinP | jnc: true |
| 02:41.08 | JustinP | Com: when updating? |
| 02:41.34 | jnc | hda6 takes a long time to mount |
| 02:41.38 | Com[Plex] | installing libstdc++6 |
| 02:41.55 | JustinP | jnc: did you reboot? |
| 02:42.02 | jnc | yeah |
| 02:42.04 | JustinP | com: hmmm... |
| 02:42.28 | Com[Plex] | reccomendations arent dependancies. |
| 02:42.28 | jnc | there should be a check in gpe-dm and if it's the first boot, reboot |
| 02:42.31 | Com[Plex] | :D |
| 02:42.41 | jnc | that would resolve module.dep junk |
| 02:42.50 | JustinP | jnc: same happens for me. I think it's corrupted fs honestly. I put an e2fsck before mounting it on mine |
| 02:43.13 | jnc | interesting |
| 02:43.38 | jnc | sync and remount ro would be nice before rebooting |
| 02:43.44 | JustinP | yes |
| 02:43.49 | JustinP | hmmm... |
| 02:44.24 | EnceloAMD | how can I build an OE ipkg without 1gb of ram? |
| 02:45.31 | jnc | holy crap |
| 02:45.39 | jnc | JustinP: i let gpe-dm run, and it's up |
| 02:45.40 | jnc | it's working |
| 02:45.43 | jnc | hot diggity |
| 02:46.02 | jnc | it's still sideways |
| 02:46.17 | jnc | i.e. orientation needs to be fixed so it can detect Spitz |
| 02:46.46 | JustinP | jnc: alter your gpe-dm init script for now... |
| 02:47.18 | jnc | new user dialog and everything |
| 02:47.20 | jnc | that's really neat |
| 02:47.21 | JustinP | Encelo: you *can* but it will be slow and thrash your swap |
| 02:47.25 | JustinP | :-) |
| 02:47.45 | jnc | "Welcome to GPE!" |
| 02:47.46 | jnc | yay |
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| 03:02.49 | Com[Plex] | shit |
| 03:02.58 | JustinP | what |
| 03:03.03 | Com[Plex] | filed up my root with yet another botched install |
| 03:03.11 | Com[Plex] | tried rebooting,. now I get a bus error |
| 03:03.20 | JustinP | link /tmp to sd |
| 03:03.31 | Com[Plex] | its not linked to tmpfs allready? |
| 03:03.33 | Com[Plex] | shit |
| 03:03.59 | JustinP | not sure.... |
| 03:04.16 | JustinP | this is why I pivot to root |
| 03:04.40 | JustinP | the internl flash of the collie is way too small for a useful system |
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| 03:10.40 | EnceloAMD | JustinP: yes, I have tried some times on my 512mb box... but this is fu***ing crazy!!! 1gb for a crappy db of pkg! unbelievable! |
| 03:11.28 | Com[Plex] | ahh |
| 03:11.38 | Com[Plex] | it botched while installing libqte2 |
| 03:11.42 | Com[Plex] | cant boot without that. lol |
| 03:11.48 | Com[Plex] | trying to reinstall |
| 03:12.03 | Com[Plex] | from teh command line. cant get into opie without it. |
| 03:13.12 | Com[Plex] | uh oh. |
| 03:13.43 | Com[Plex] | I type reboot. now both my lights are stuck on |
| 03:13.52 | Com[Plex] | do i dare shut it off? |
| 03:14.02 | Com[Plex] | it looks like its trying to flash! |
| 03:14.14 | Com[Plex] | shit, i have no idea what was in the root of this cf.. |
| 03:15.04 | Com[Plex] | reset!! |
| 03:15.28 | Com[Plex] | hah! I got it back :) |
| 03:17.43 | Com[Plex] | okay, konq till wont install. wants libqte2 >= 2.3.10-snapshot 20050131 |
| 03:17.56 | Com[Plex] | I just put 2.3.10-14 |
| 03:22.38 | Com[Plex] | well that was a huge waste of time |
| 03:22.46 | Com[Plex] | guess its time to go hang out with the GF for a while |
| 03:22.56 | JustinP | com: 1gb is *not* for the db of packages, it's for building glibc |
| 03:23.00 | JustinP | blibc is huge |
| 03:23.04 | JustinP | blibc |
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| 03:23.15 | Com[Plex] | ? |
| 03:23.19 | JustinP | jnc: mount -oremount,rw / didn't work.... |
| 03:26.30 | EnceloAMD | JustinP: blibc? |
| 03:26.46 | JustinP | glibc |
| 03:26.51 | JustinP | argh |
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| 04:36.17 | Com[Plex] | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:36.40 | JustinP | yes? |
| 04:37.23 | Com[Plex] | is it just me? or is tyhe web browser just not meant to be? |
| 04:37.38 | Com[Plex] | I scrapped satock 3.5.3 and went with the hentages rom |
| 04:37.45 | Com[Plex] | konq still wont fscking load |
| 04:38.44 | JustinP | I told you: put root on SD |
| 04:39.32 | JustinP | also, try GPE, it also has web browsers |
| 04:39.49 | Com[Plex] | hentages puts everything on SD |
| 04:40.10 | Com[Plex] | I need libpcreposix or something like that |
| 04:40.32 | JustinP | so install the libpcre package |
| 04:40.41 | Com[Plex] | working on it |
| 04:40.43 | JustinP | like the dependencies say |
| 04:41.56 | Com[Plex] | you havent worked with kentages have you? |
| 04:42.01 | Com[Plex] | its all automatic. |
| 04:42.16 | JustinP | no, I haven't |
| 04:43.25 | JustinP | I also don't see any kind of explanation about what it is from its webpage |
| 04:45.42 | JustinP | *I* run forefox on my zaurus |
| 04:45.45 | JustinP | firefox |
| 05:00.13 | Com[Plex] | wehere can I find that? |
| 05:00.20 | Com[Plex] | and will it run in opie |
| 05:00.27 | Com[Plex] | and how hard is it to get it running? :) |
| 05:01.51 | JustinP | firefox runs in X, which means you have to use GPE |
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| 05:11.22 | Com[Plex] | woohoo!! |
| 05:11.25 | Com[Plex] | got it |
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| 05:37.16 | jnc | JustinP: a lot of apps crash on GPE :/ |
| 05:37.22 | jnc | it's somewhat useable |
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| 05:59.16 | AppleBoy | JustinP: how's the compiling going? |
| 05:59.18 | AppleBoy | jnc: ? |
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| 06:09.44 | jnc | eh |
| 06:09.46 | jnc | sleepytime |
| 06:35.07 | JustinP | jnc: some do...half of the config apps do, yes. Haven't delved into that yet |
| 06:35.19 | JustinP | AppleBoy: goig great, it't very useful |
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| 06:45.45 | alan | hi ! |
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| 11:53.58 | cosmo- | any hints where the ipk could be found? |
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| 14:55.02 | bipolar | *sigh* I still can't install packages from sf. I can't pull them to mirror the packages either. |
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| 15:12.58 | XorA | bipolar: http://oz.pdai.org/official/unstable/3.5.3/ |
| 15:13.17 | bipolar | XorA, lifesaver! :) |
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| 15:19.21 | bipolar | Would it be possible to get a group of people to donate server space and have ipkg select a mirror round-robin style? |
| 15:20.00 | bipolar | XorA, did you use wget to mirror the files? |
| 15:25.55 | XorA | bipolar: thats an offcial mirror, its on the oz.org webpage |
| 15:27.05 | bipolar | how did I miss that.... |
| 15:27.34 | bipolar | hmmm... since oz.org is not responding, I cant even check. blah |
| 15:29.18 | XorA | ~google openzaurus mirrors |
| 15:30.07 | bipolar | XorA, cool! thanks. |
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| 18:06.36 | JustinP | jnc: if you have another way to let AppleBoy know his server's down I'd appreciate it... |
| 18:06.57 | jnc | JustinP: i could fly out to cali and kick his face in, if you like |
| 18:07.06 | JustinP | I live in CA, actually... |
| 18:07.13 | JustinP | I was thinking e-mail, IM, etc |
| 18:07.17 | JustinP | since he's not in here |
| 18:07.23 | JustinP | no matter I still have my server as a backup |
| 18:07.33 | jnc | lethal force with a shoe is very effective |
| 18:07.43 | JustinP | jnc: are you enjoying GPE? |
| 18:07.50 | JustinP | jnc: FireFox is very nice ;-) |
| 18:08.14 | JustinP | although you want to download it first, then install it, then extract the file manually anc copy them to the right places |
| 18:08.19 | jnc | haven't touched it since i fell asleep last night |
| 18:08.23 | JustinP | ipkg has issues with the firefox data tarball |
| 18:08.30 | JustinP | at least on the Z |
| 18:08.32 | jnc | oh |
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| 18:09.44 | JustinP | Pigi is looking into it, though...may even make it depend on external tar as it can handle the file correctly |
| 18:10.01 | jnc | i was thinking, yea |
| 18:10.05 | jnc | that'd be the way to do it man |
| 18:10.19 | jnc | laundry time |
| 18:10.22 | JustinP | that's what I'd say too. They were trying to keep it all internal, though |
| 18:13.16 | JustinP | mickeyl has apparently fixed the kernel problem. I'm attempting to verify it now but it takes a bit longer for my machine to get things done :-| |
| 18:19.51 | jnc | oh |
| 18:20.02 | jnc | yeah maybe i should poke kyle |
| 18:20.05 | jnc | he'd be at school |
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| 19:17.30 | alan | good evening everyone! |
| 19:17.53 | alan | what's up with the incoming kernel ? what's new with it ? |
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| 19:20.05 | rjune | When my I plug my Zaurus in, and the battery LED turns amber for about 3 seconds, then turns off and it won't start up, would that be indicative of no electricity or faulty ROM? |
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| 19:25.21 | alan | good evening hrw|gone |
| 19:27.51 | alan | raaaaah, that is wonderfull... |
| 19:30.44 | rjune | hiya alan |
| 19:31.13 | alan | yop rjune. sorry, i don't know about your problem... what is your Z model ? |
| 19:31.45 | rjune | 5500 |
| 19:32.05 | rjune | you knoww of the top of your head what battery a 5600 takes? |
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| 19:32.22 | alan | i have a 750 and ive never had such a problem... |
| 19:32.49 | rjune | the C750? |
| 19:35.12 | alan | yep |
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| 20:44.52 | keenan | I upgraded the kernel on my collie but I got an oops as soon as I tried to use my Linksys WCF12 |
| 20:45.11 | keenan | I'll try starting over from the beginning |
| 20:45.59 | keenan | where are the md5s of the new kernel? |
| 20:50.30 | rjune | Ah! how do I move between virtual consoles? |
| 20:50.45 | rjune | keenan: in the download directory, md5sum.txt |
| 20:50.52 | JustinP | chvt |
| 20:51.02 | keenan | it's not there |
| 20:51.05 | keenan | http://www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.3/upgrades/collie/ |
| 20:51.19 | keenan | not in the Packages file either |
| 21:04.30 | keenan | hmm, I just reflashed and now it's stopped at "Configuring update-modules" |
| 21:04.44 | keenan | oh oops, wrong kernel |
| 21:04.47 | keenan | that might be why |
| 21:06.46 | JustinP | keenan: you're upgrading yoru kernel? did you follow the howto on the webpage? |
| 21:07.17 | keenan | I did but I think I might have messed up somewhere, so I'm starting over |
| 21:07.33 | keenan | what's the md5 for the new kernel image? |
| 21:07.44 | JustinP | you should be able to put your old kernel bacck and get into it |
| 21:07.45 | JustinP | I don' tknow |
| 21:07.56 | JustinP | I can download it and tell you what my machine gives me... |
| 21:08.07 | keenan | k, i'm using the 64-0 one |
| 21:09.20 | keenan | btw, how many times can you reflash the rom before it wears out? =( |
| 21:09.26 | JustinP | hmmm...seems to be movin ral slow |
| 21:10.16 | JustinP | oh there we go |
| 21:10.29 | JustinP | e179cc1991729d931f47d8031843aa0a zImage-collie-64-0-r21.bin |
| 21:10.52 | JustinP | that's just what my machine says, it *could* be wrong |
| 21:10.55 | keenan | good, that's what I get too |
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| 21:15.51 | keenan | ok this time I'll go to the other room closer to the wireless router before I ipkg update |
| 21:16.00 | JustinP | hehe |
| 21:17.13 | _StarScream | yellow |
| 21:17.21 | _StarScream | i see hrw's updated the site |
| 21:17.31 | JustinP | yes |
| 21:23.58 | keenan | so should I shut down before flashing the new kernel, or just turn it off? |
| 21:31.01 | keenan | should uname -a show anything different? |
| 21:31.15 | keenan | it still says 2.4.18-rmk7-pxa3-embedix |
| 21:32.32 | keenan | ok i'm about to try the wireless card |
| 21:32.34 | keenan | here goes... |
| 21:32.46 | keenan | oops again |
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| 21:34.16 | keenan | who should I send this oops to? |
| 21:34.47 | JustinP | put it in a bug report |
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| 21:34.53 | JustinP | bugs.openembedded.org |
| 21:35.47 | _StarScream | keenan: which card is it? |
| 21:36.33 | keenan | Linksys WCF12 |
| 21:45.46 | keenan | will the old kernel work with the new modules, or do i have to downgrade? |
| 21:45.55 | keenan | hmm, seems like it's working |
| 21:45.59 | JustinP | not sure |
| 21:46.09 | keenan | wireless is working at least |
| 21:46.23 | JustinP | good luck then |
| 21:48.27 | keenan | oh that explains it, there's no hostap module in upgrades/collie |
| 21:48.38 | JustinP | yeah, that's what I was thinking |
| 21:48.46 | JustinP | put it in your bug report please :-) |
| 21:49.00 | keenan | can do |
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| 22:54.57 | EnceloAMD | is there anyone who has solved the annoying problem of sdl libraries and GPE? |
| 22:56.43 | JustinP | I know that people are working on it (if they haven't fixed it already) in OpenEmbedded. The next release *should* have it all figured out. |
| 22:58.03 | EnceloAMD | uff, I don't want to wait ages... |
| 22:58.12 | EnceloAMD | I want to start playing now that I have free time :) |
| 23:01.28 | TheMaskedUnit_ | what games are you trying to play? |
| 23:05.23 | JustinP | EnceloAMD: you're free to get bitbake and openembedded and try the bleeding edge builds |
| 23:05.50 | JustinP | that's what I'm doing. And any problems I find I try to track them down and submit them back to the core OE devs (via bugs.openembedded.org) |
| 23:06.09 | EnceloAMD | JustinP: I don't have 1gb of ram :) |
| 23:06.34 | JustinP | EnceloAMD: that's ok. How much do you have? |
| 23:06.46 | EnceloAMD | 512mb |
| 23:06.52 | JustinP | EnceloAMD: the only part that sort of need 1GB is glibc. The rest you should be able to do with 512 |
| 23:07.17 | JustinP | start a build then when it gets to glibc do that one "Manually" then start your build again |
| 23:07.26 | EnceloAMD | so, if I just remove some packages I'm safe? |
| 23:07.43 | JustinP | and/or you can use BBMASK to only do some packages, yes |
| 23:08.04 | EnceloAMD | because I just need SDL packages now |
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| 23:08.37 | JustinP | as an example, bitbake is only using 27MB of memory right now and I'm not using BBMASK |
| 23:08.56 | JustinP | well, you have to compile GCC and various other cross=compiling tools as well as glibc to be able to compile anything else |
| 23:09.00 | JustinP | it's *real* easy, though |
| 23:09.13 | TheMaskedUnit_ | what are you guys talking about? |
| 23:09.14 | JustinP | and you can always ask for help in #oe (but make sure to read the docs first) |
| 23:10.16 | JustinP | OpenEmbedded |
| 23:11.01 | TheMaskedUnit_ | 1GB? for what exactly :) |
| 23:13.10 | JustinP | EnceloAMD: the current website says nothing about 1GB, BTW: http://oe.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/MemoryRequirements |
| 23:13.25 | JustinP | TheMaskedUnit_: building OZ and such |
| 23:13.49 | EnceloAMD | JustinP: how much have I got to download to cross compile? |
| 23:14.16 | EnceloAMD | I'm on a 56k connection, I can't download 200mb of files just to cross compile some small libraries... ;) |
| 23:15.06 | TheMaskedUnit_ | EnceloAMD, find a highspeed hotspot, camp out for a little while :) |
| 23:15.09 | JustinP | EnceloAMD: ugh...yes, that would take forever. |
| 23:15.58 | TheMaskedUnit_ | most hotels (here atleast) have 1Mbit connections :) |
| 23:16.16 | EnceloAMD | ehm... could someone do this for me as an act of charity toward a poor low connection man? :D |
| 23:16.24 | JustinP | EnceloAMD: you can try to get a toolchain and just do it that way, but it's best to use OE.... |
| 23:16.28 | JustinP | ::sigh:: |
| 23:17.07 | EnceloAMD | TheMaskedUnit_: not here :) |
| 23:19.28 | JustinP | ENceloAMD: what do you need compiled exactly? |
| 23:20.25 | JustinP | and for what machine? (I do not promise that this will work....in fact it could very well cause your machine to behave strangely since this is all bleeding edge stuff) |
| 23:22.15 | EnceloAMD | libsdl-ttf, libsdl-image, libsdl-net, libsdl-mixer and their dev packages for Collie |
| 23:23.54 | EnceloAMD | ah, and libsdl-x11, libsdl-gfx11 and their dev pkgs :D |
| 23:25.43 | JustinP | you likely could use the same ipks I use for my spitz, but I don't want to take any chances |
| 23:26.45 | EnceloAMD | spitz? |
| 23:26.53 | EnceloAMD | codename for what? |
| 23:28.40 | JustinP | C3000 |
| 23:29.15 | JustinP | sorry, I tend to use the codenames now that I'm doing OE work |
| 23:29.39 | EnceloAMD | C3000, wow! a great device! |
| 23:29.50 | JustinP | yes, yes it is :-) |
| 23:29.58 | EnceloAMD | the price scares, but I think it's a fantastic machine |
| 23:30.09 | JustinP | I'm currently compiling emacs *on* my Zaurus. ;-) It's taking forever but it should be worth it. |
| 23:30.15 | EnceloAMD | eheheh |
| 23:30.35 | JustinP | yeah, it is very pricey. I wouldn't have gotten it if I hadn't gotten a huge tax return this year |
| 23:33.11 | EnceloAMD | it has the same price as a notebook |
| 23:33.19 | EnceloAMD | but I think is far more geeky :D |
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| 23:50.16 | JustinP | EnceloAMD: and more portable |
| 23:50.24 | JustinP | building glibc..... |
| 23:52.10 | EnceloAMD | good |
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