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| 00:41.04 | paxl | I just got my zaurus :) |
| 00:41.12 | JustinP | yay |
| 00:41.18 | JustinP | I'm heading home... |
| 00:41.30 | paxl | In sharp rom .. is there any ssh/terminal ? |
| 00:42.32 | paxl | Ugh.. I think I"ll have to read thing :) |
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| 00:58.33 | Cube-ness | hmm |
| 00:59.01 | Cube-ness | how come nothing installs via ipkg for gpe? everything has some dep thats not meetable |
| 00:59.06 | Cube-ness | hehe |
| 00:59.08 | Cube-ness | meetable |
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| 01:19.01 | paxl | What is the best Opie or GPE ? |
| 01:19.26 | Ycros | do you prefer apples or oranges? |
| 01:19.45 | paxl | mouarf.. |
| 01:19.48 | kolla | imo none of them are any good :P |
| 01:20.04 | paxl | lol :) |
| 01:20.07 | paxl | I see :) |
| 01:21.31 | paxl | argh.. :S |
| 01:21.49 | paxl | Is there a way back to SharpRom ? |
| 01:22.49 | kolla | sure, reflash |
| 01:23.01 | paxl | like I'll flash Oz ? |
| 01:23.12 | kolla | yes, same way |
| 01:23.22 | kolla | at least for sl5500 |
| 01:23.24 | paxl | [ I just had my Zaurus this night.. this is why I'm a little bit stressed to do it.. ] |
| 01:23.30 | paxl | I'm on a SL 5500 |
| 01:24.59 | kolla | ok, then you flash back the same way |
| 01:25.32 | paxl | so I'll do it :) |
| 01:25.44 | Cube-ness | hmm.. i have the x11 feed available, but anyhting that needs libx11 fails.. says libx11-6 needs to be >= 6.2.1cvs20050403 |
| 01:28.06 | kolla | that's linux for you :) |
| 01:28.39 | Cube-ness | no its not |
| 01:28.49 | Cube-ness | its broken feed/repository |
| 01:29.20 | kolla | same thing |
| 01:29.29 | Cube-ness | uh |
| 01:29.37 | Cube-ness | not its not |
| 01:30.07 | Cube-ness | if the store you drive to to buy a drink is closed when you get there, it doesnt mean yout car has issues |
| 01:30.13 | Cube-ness | your |
| 01:31.11 | kolla | if I drive a one year old car and I want new seat covers, and the guy at the store tells me I have to upgrade my seats first... |
| 01:33.11 | Cube-ness | look.. i like that fact that "linux" progresses organically.. a proper distro and package management scheme makes the lib version dep thing a non-issue |
| 01:33.50 | kolla | well, I'm not the one with dependency problems here :) |
| 01:33.56 | Cube-ness | unless you think that static builds of everything is the anwer, lib deps are an issue regardless of the OS |
| 01:34.17 | kolla | nope |
| 01:34.22 | Cube-ness | its not a problem.. i was just mentioning it so that somebody how can do something about it can fix it |
| 01:34.30 | kolla | on some OSes compatibility doesnt just run backwards |
| 01:36.14 | Cube-ness | binary backward compat is kinda silly when you have source available |
| 01:36.40 | kolla | on linux it's far from uncommon to make libs incompatible between minor revision releases |
| 01:36.55 | Cube-ness | so.. |
| 01:37.04 | Cube-ness | the distro mainainer recompiles.. |
| 01:37.11 | Cube-ness | maintainer(s) |
| 01:37.37 | Cube-ness | much better than avoiding functionality or making hacks for the sake of backwards compat |
| 01:37.54 | kolla | sometimes recompile isnt enough |
| 01:38.11 | Cube-ness | besides, if it is lame, isnt it the people making the lib thta have the prob, not the os? |
| 01:38.33 | kolla | anyways.. screw bacwards compatibily, I was talking about forward compatibility |
| 01:43.28 | paxl | I'm flashing Oz for the first time :) |
| 01:47.54 | paxl | I'm now booting Oz for the first time :) |
| 02:09.28 | paxl | euh.. why it lock my Zaurus to suspand it.. in Oz |
| 02:27.25 | paxl | ARGH why the kernel is buggeD :s |
| 02:46.24 | JustinP | paxl: you need to upgrade |
| 02:49.43 | paxl | JustinP: How ?? |
| 02:50.09 | paxl | Can I juste flash the zImage-64-0 with the opie image |
| 02:51.31 | jnc | JustinP: okkkay |
| 02:52.23 | paxl | I'll reflash with SharpRom and I'll look at this l8ter :) |
| 02:53.22 | jnc | JustinP: http://pastebin.com/330425 design draft |
| 02:53.27 | JustinP | what's wrong paxl? |
| 02:53.30 | jnc | for new keymap that has full function :) |
| 02:53.47 | paxl | JustinP: he is all bugged :) |
| 02:53.55 | JustinP | hi? |
| 02:54.00 | JustinP | he? |
| 02:55.30 | paxl | the Zaurus :) |
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| 02:55.39 | paxl | since suspand/resume is TOTALY bugged |
| 02:56.56 | JustinP | no, it should be ok |
| 02:57.05 | JustinP | one sec, finding a URL for you |
| 02:58.21 | JustinP | Follow this howto: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=12404668 |
| 02:58.51 | JustinP | then follow this one: http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/2005/07/27/howto-get-r21-kernel-on-collie/ |
| 03:00.37 | jnc | JustinP: oooOH... suspend works on the new kernel we've been using |
| 03:00.40 | jnc | with wifi card in |
| 03:00.58 | JustinP | oh really? I haven't tried. I always eject my card before suspending |
| 03:01.12 | jnc | well, it worky worky now |
| 03:01.15 | jnc | :) |
| 03:01.30 | paxl | thank JustinP I'll do it |
| 03:01.40 | jnc | JustinP: i'm missing only a few keys from the standard keyboard now |
| 03:03.19 | jnc | JustinP: could you stop gpe-dm and Opie and from the console please give me the showkey codes for your remote? |
| 03:03.41 | JustinP | alt-hyphen? don't you mean AltGr+hyphen? |
| 03:03.47 | JustinP | e.g. Fn+Hyphen? |
| 03:03.52 | JustinP | for @ |
| 03:04.01 | jnc | AudioPlay|Pause, AudioRaiseVolume, AudioLowerVolume, AudioMute, AudioStop, AudioPrev, AudioNext |
| 03:04.20 | jnc | JustinP: good observation. *fix* |
| 03:04.53 | JustinP | you have 2 numlocks? |
| 03:05.32 | jnc | i could get rid of the one for Spacebar |
| 03:05.54 | JustinP | I agree |
| 03:05.57 | jnc | s/NumLock/something here/ |
| 03:06.10 | jnc | okay looking at a 104-key keyboard, this leaves... |
| 03:06.47 | JustinP | and yes, we shuld also map the audio remote to something....although I'm not sure they need to be mapped to normal keys...perhaps they only need maps in X/Opie |
| 03:07.35 | jnc | PrintScrn/SysRq, Pause/Break, Insert (also provided in function by keypad, sort of) |
| 03:08.18 | jnc | also missing the win-app key (which is not a real key anyways.. we can skip that) |
| 03:08.43 | jnc | i think that covers all keys, am i missing any? |
| 03:09.14 | JustinP | not that I know of |
| 03:09.39 | jnc | okay, Fn+o -> PrintScrn |
| 03:09.47 | jnc | Fn+p -> Pause/break |
| 03:09.50 | jnc | errr |
| 03:09.54 | jnc | i don't know about that |
| 03:10.07 | jnc | how about mapping the outside cancel button to Pause/Break? |
| 03:10.23 | jnc | i suppose it should be left as Esc |
| 03:10.41 | jnc | Fn+spacebar -> insert |
| 03:12.09 | JustinP | uhoh |
| 03:12.16 | JustinP | yanking wifi hung my Z |
| 03:12.23 | jnc | yeah |
| 03:12.28 | jnc | yanking it out will muck things up |
| 03:12.44 | jnc | leave it in when doing apm -s |
| 03:13.57 | JustinP | cardctl eject 0 works fine |
| 03:19.04 | paxl | JustinP: I'll do it l8ter this night.. or maybe in some day :).. I need sleep.. But I relay love my zaurus :) |
| 03:20.52 | JustinP | ok |
| 03:22.18 | jnc | hmm |
| 03:22.21 | jnc | chicago2600 time |
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| 03:56.13 | jnc | or maybe not |
| 03:59.20 | JustinP | ? |
| 04:01.34 | jnc | it's like an hour drive to get there |
| 04:01.53 | jnc | expensive and finishing this keymap is more interesting |
| 04:02.56 | JustinP | ok.... |
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| 04:19.02 | paxl | JustinP: I have to setup an USB connection since he want 2 256 mb card.. and it is more stable tough |
| 04:20.43 | JustinP | ? |
| 04:21.15 | JustinP | what? |
| 04:27.14 | paxl | to do the ipkg update/upgrade... |
| 04:30.27 | paxl | I'll realy write an Howto install on Collie :) under linux :) |
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| 12:22.47 | CoreDump|home | JustinP: applied, thanks! |
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| 15:34.46 | florolf | hello |
| 15:35.40 | florolf | my collie stopped resuming, when i started using a sd-card and a cf-wlan-card |
| 15:36.12 | florolf | but it seems to work perfectly, when it's connected to the power supply |
| 15:36.45 | _StarScream | florolf: what z ? |
| 15:36.56 | florolf | sl-5500g |
| 15:40.44 | _StarScream | g? have you upgraded to r21? |
| 15:42.55 | florolf | hum |
| 15:43.01 | florolf | i am using zImage-collie-40-24-20050407102515.bin |
| 15:44.30 | florolf | is that equal? |
| 15:46.04 | florolf | no, it isn't |
| 15:46.07 | florolf | hum. |
| 15:47.00 | florolf | how to upgrade the kernel? reflashing? |
| 15:48.44 | florolf | well, i should lear reading |
| 15:48.50 | florolf | s/ar/arn/ |
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| 15:56.48 | TheMaskedUnit | g' morning all |
| 15:57.21 | florolf | hello |
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| 16:55.59 | JustinP | CoreDump|afk: so it's ok then? I also need to get my changes to the normal scripts up in a diff... |
| 17:09.16 | carpediem | please explain to me, can OZ really sync with Outlook? I find forum postings alluding to it, but I've never been able to find out how for sure. |
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| 17:50.27 | bhursey | hey |
| 17:50.51 | bhursey | I have a problem and I have searched through the fourm to no avail |
| 17:53.25 | bhursey | i have a sl-5500 i just got a wcf-12 i am running ope with OZ3.5.3 it is recognizing my card but it is not conecting to my ap. It is flasshing weard characters after my essid like mypoint[then weard characters] |
| 17:53.45 | bhursey | my signal and noise are both at 71% |
| 17:53.54 | bhursey | and quality is at 0 |
| 17:54.22 | bhursey | it sees my ap as 44:44:44:44:44:44 |
| 17:55.26 | bhursey | cardctl ident gives me |
| 17:56.23 | bhursey | product info: "Linksys", "Wireless CompactFlash Card","","" |
| 17:56.45 | bhursey | manfid: 0x028a, 0x0673 |
| 17:57.02 | bhursey | function: 6 (network) |
| 17:57.53 | TheMaskedUnit | i dont have OZ on my 5500 right now, but have your tried disabling eth0, and the other interfaces, with ifconfig eth0 down etc? i think that worked for me when i had OZ installed |
| 17:58.35 | bhursey | well i havent tried that but I have tried almost every rom out there |
| 17:58.47 | bhursey | one sec |
| 17:59.18 | TheMaskedUnit | and then bring up wlan0 after you disbale all other interfaces, or it could be the other way around, not sure, but it seemed to work for me at the time. |
| 18:00.13 | bhursey | humm |
| 18:00.21 | bhursey | is there any way my card could be bad? |
| 18:00.49 | bhursey | because I tried to use the zarus 3.11 rom and i folloed the directions on getting it wok on that and no dice |
| 18:00.58 | bhursey | the link lite just flashes |
| 18:01.41 | TheMaskedUnit | i have the same card, and if your not in close range, the same thing happens to me aswell |
| 18:01.52 | bhursey | it says when I try bringing diwn the devicesun known interface even though ifconfig sees them |
| 18:02.04 | bhursey | i was 5 feet from the ap yesterday |
| 18:02.07 | bhursey | same thing |
| 18:02.18 | bhursey | im on my laptop wierless ley right now |
| 18:02.47 | TheMaskedUnit | strange |
| 18:02.57 | bhursey | this is just fusterating, reading every where that the card will work right out of the box and it dosent |
| 18:03.14 | bhursey | my laptop has 80% signal strengthe |
| 18:03.45 | TheMaskedUnit | i was having the same exact problem with OZ that your having, strange characters in ESSID, and 44:44:44 with the mac addr |
| 18:05.34 | bhursey | i was reading and they said about manualy editing you /etc/network/interfaces |
| 18:05.42 | bhursey | and I did do that and I get the same thing |
| 18:06.18 | bhursey | Well here is what I am going to do... |
| 18:06.51 | bhursey | brb |
| 18:07.26 | TheMaskedUnit | that sounds like a great idea :) |
| 18:09.34 | bhursey | ok sorry |
| 18:09.41 | bhursey | my feance on the phone |
| 18:10.10 | bhursey | im gona go to school and try it there if that dosent work I am going to pack the card up and rma it back... |
| 18:10.40 | bhursey | hopfully it is a hardware problem |
| 18:11.32 | bhursey | or I may try conecting it to my laptop with ad-hoc mode and see if that works |
| 18:11.38 | bhursey | to see if its the ap |
| 18:11.42 | TheMaskedUnit | before you RMA it, have you tried it with the sharp 3.13 rom? you dont have to edit any files in that rom |
| 18:11.55 | bhursey | i tried the 3.11 |
| 18:12.07 | bhursey | where do i get the 3.13 |
| 18:12.23 | TheMaskedUnit | umm |
| 18:12.35 | TheMaskedUnit | zaurususergroups's site |
| 18:13.31 | bhursey | Fatal error: Call to a member function on a non-object in /home/.bluebell/miamlh1/zaurususergroup.org/modules/UpDownload/dl-util.php on line 106 |
| 18:13.34 | bhursey | yay!! |
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| 18:13.53 | TheMaskedUnit | wow lucky you |
| 18:14.12 | bhursey | man im having fun the pda rocks but the world hates me |
| 18:14.44 | TheMaskedUnit | heh :) |
| 18:15.35 | TheMaskedUnit | one sec |
| 18:16.17 | TheMaskedUnit | here you go |
| 18:16.19 | TheMaskedUnit | http://tux.ius.edu/zaurus/5500v313Ospack.zip |
| 18:16.22 | TheMaskedUnit | that should work |
| 18:17.02 | bhursey | thats should 100% work out of the box right? |
| 18:17.11 | bhursey | so if it dosent work its my card |
| 18:17.25 | TheMaskedUnit | im pretty sure yes |
| 18:17.29 | bhursey | cool |
| 18:17.42 | bhursey | because i dont want to pay for shipping if I dont have too |
| 18:17.54 | bhursey | and i have spend 2 days trying to get the card working |
| 18:18.05 | bhursey | and my family is mad at me because I have become a recluse |
| 18:18.07 | bhursey | haha |
| 18:19.04 | TheMaskedUnit | hahah :) |
| 18:20.23 | bhursey | her goes my 15th flasshing of my zarus in 2 days |
| 18:20.25 | bhursey | hehe |
| 18:21.40 | bhursey | thanks so much for your help |
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| 18:21.58 | itsonlyme | hi |
| 18:22.06 | TheMaskedUnit | yeah i know the feeling :) no problem |
| 18:22.10 | bhursey | i acualy hope its the hardware other wise every one lied about how great this card is |
| 18:24.19 | bhursey | what do you ave now? |
| 18:25.04 | XorA | bhursey: Sandisck Connect+ |
| 18:25.17 | XorA | bhursey: but there was nothing wrong with wcf-12 until I put into washing machine |
| 18:25.27 | bhursey | lol |
| 18:25.46 | bhursey | well im off to move |
| 18:25.48 | bhursey | later |
| 18:26.17 | bhursey | i love the geek factor of thios thing |
| 18:26.28 | bhursey | I cant wait tell I can ssh into my server from a park |
| 18:26.31 | bhursey | haha |
| 18:29.07 | itsonlyme | XorA hrw sent me a custom kernel for using kbdd, but he sent it as a ipk. How do you flash a .ipk kernel? |
| 18:34.19 | itsonlyme | any ideas? |
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| 18:43.36 | XorA | itsonlyme: he should have pointed you at a .bin file as well |
| 18:43.49 | XorA | itsonlyme: AFAIK .ipk is emtpy |
| 19:11.56 | carpediem | Does anyone know, can OZ sync to Outlook? |
| 19:52.21 | itsonlyme | thanks XorA... sorry it took so long to reply. I had to answer a phone call. |
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| 20:00.27 | itsonlyme | XorA, is there a better terminal emulator for gpe? The default seems to be rxvt, but it is missing some file I need to do a graphical ssh/telnet connection. |
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| 20:56.58 | itsonlyme | anyone wanna walk me through the firefox or minimo install fix? |
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| 20:57.42 | itsonlyme | or point me at a web resource that show how to install firefox/minimo? |
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| 21:10.10 | _bender_0 | HELLO! |
| 21:11.29 | tubbie|cook | hi _bender_0 |
| 21:19.59 | jnc | itsonlyme: no idea |
| 21:21.11 | itsonlyme | thanks |
| 21:23.00 | itsonlyme | ipkg is so slow... |
| 21:27.40 | Biblio_peb | itsonlyme, have you tried apt on the Z? I installed it, but have not yet configured it. |
| 21:28.53 | itsonlyme | nope.. I did use it on a oe based jlime dist for j680, and it was much quicker then ipkg |
| 21:29.31 | jnc | so uh |
| 21:29.36 | jnc | new keymap for the SL-C3000 |
| 21:29.44 | jnc | i've got the draft nearly completed |
| 21:29.50 | jnc | i'm missing only a couple of keys |
| 21:33.04 | Biblio_peb | how did you tackle the job? any suggestion if I want to come up with my own map? |
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