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00:29.30 | paxl_ | what is the keymap to change terminal in the zaurus ? |
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01:52.13 | paxl_ | What browser can I use in Oz ? |
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03:41.53 | paxl_ | Ugh.. Why it froze on Suspand sometime using a 5500 with the kernel 2.4.18-rmk7-pxa3-embedix.. is this the r21 kernel ? |
04:17.44 | CoreDump|afk | paxl_: use "Calendar" (IIRC) and Right-Arrow to switch from VT to Opie (VT2), or use chvt 2 |
04:18.09 | CoreDump|afk | opera works w/ sharp-compat-libs, konq/e ain't bad either |
04:19.14 | CoreDump|afk | did you flash the "r21" kernel? r21 is _not_ the kernel from the OZ d/l directory, it can only be found in the upgrade feed AFAIK |
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04:48.58 | rabies | i uh, turned off opie on my SL-5500 and now it wont turn back on when i press the cancel button like it should, anyone know how to turn it back on |
04:50.15 | rabies | it wont turn on! |
04:52.24 | rabies | finally it turned back on |
04:52.26 | rabies | wtf happened... |
05:03.08 | rabies | now it wont turn off! |
05:10.21 | ljp | ha |
05:17.58 | rabies | =P |
05:18.03 | rabies | had to manually reset it |
05:18.07 | rabies | that sucked |
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07:06.12 | alan|philo | hi ! |
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07:36.49 | realloc | Does anyone here uses GPE on Zaurus SL-6000 ? |
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12:35.48 | alan|notebook | re |
12:35.56 | XorA | hey alan |
12:36.13 | alan|notebook | yop XorA ! |
12:37.48 | alan|notebook | what's up with 3.5.4 ? any news ? |
12:39.01 | XorA | alan|notebook: progressing :-) |
12:39.10 | XorA | 2.6.13-rc5-mm1 is looking stable |
12:40.08 | alan|notebook | great. what does it improve ? |
12:43.12 | XorA | :-D |
12:43.28 | XorA | alan|notebook: not sure, but its newer :-) |
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12:50.08 | alan|notebook | niarf... |
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15:13.53 | rabies | hi |
15:14.12 | rabies | im trying to get my OZ to connect to my computer via usb so that i can download packages and sync |
15:14.38 | rabies | i probed the usbnet module, but i dont get the actual device in the ifconfig -a (no usb0) |
15:14.39 | XorA | rabwhich Z |
15:14.43 | rabies | SL-5500 |
15:14.55 | XorA | modprobe usb_monitor |
15:14.59 | rabies | 2.6.11.10 |
15:15.03 | XorA | then plug in cable |
15:15.15 | rabies | i dont have that module |
15:15.30 | XorA | maybe its usbd-monitor |
15:15.44 | rabies | not found |
15:15.46 | XorA | on Z side |
15:15.51 | rabies | oohh |
15:15.53 | rabies | on Z side? |
15:16.02 | XorA | modprobe on Z |
15:17.05 | rabies | hrm |
15:17.35 | rabies | neither are found |
15:17.36 | rabies | on the Z |
15:17.45 | rabies | no usb_monitor or usbd_monitor |
15:18.40 | rabies | =\ |
15:19.00 | XorA | does an lsmod on Z show sa1100_bi? |
15:19.31 | rabies | ya |
15:19.56 | XorA | rabies: ok, try removing usb cable, rmmod sa1100_bi; modprobe sa1100_bi |
15:20.10 | XorA | rabies: suspend on a 5500 kills the device driver |
15:20.23 | XorA | then plug the usb cable back in |
15:21.15 | rabies | heres the thing though |
15:21.23 | rabies | it wont turn off or on if i shut it down |
15:21.40 | rabies | still no usb0 |
15:22.46 | XorA | rabies: sounds like your collie is not quite right, unfortuneately I think all the collie people are away today |
15:23.13 | rabies | my collie isnt quite right??? |
15:23.16 | rabies | you're serious? |
15:24.35 | XorA | rabies: the fact it wont turn off/on is a major problem |
15:25.02 | rabies | yeah.. |
15:25.10 | rabies | think its a hardware defect or a software one? |
15:25.27 | XorA | rabies: probably software, but not owning a collie I dont know the common gotchas |
15:25.31 | rabies | whats the right way to turn it off btw? |
15:25.51 | XorA | rabies: hold down cancel button I think, or suspend from menu |
15:26.02 | rabies | suspend works fine.. |
15:26.06 | rabies | thats how i do turn it off |
15:26.17 | XorA | rabies: there is no "off" off |
15:26.17 | rabies | its when i do a full shutdown that problems crop up |
15:26.40 | rabies | or when i shutdown using the cancel button |
15:26.51 | XorA | rabies: which version of OZ? |
15:26.56 | rabies | 3.5.3 |
15:27.13 | XorA | rabies: sounds like that is what is fixed with r21 upgrade kernel |
15:27.21 | rabies | ah |
15:27.30 | rabies | so it was a 3.5.3 specific glitch |
15:27.32 | rabies | where can i get the update? |
15:27.40 | XorA | www.openzaurus.org |
15:27.46 | rabies | well yeah |
15:27.49 | rabies | but where on the site? |
15:27.55 | rabies | and do i need that usbnet to update? |
15:27.56 | XorA | its one of the articles |
15:28.21 | XorA | http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/2005/07/27/howto-get-r21-kernel-on-collie/ |
15:29.17 | XorA | though that wont change the usbnet problem |
15:30.22 | rabies | what am i doing wrong w/ usbnet? |
15:30.28 | rabies | am i missing a computer side module? |
15:30.50 | rabies | root@gamma:/usr/src/linux-2.6.11.10# lsusb |
15:30.50 | rabies | Bus 002 Device 011: ID 04dd:8004 Sharp Corp. Zaurus SL-5000D/SL-5500 PDA |
15:30.55 | XorA | rabies: some linux distibs miss the ID codes for Z in their usbnet modules |
15:31.14 | XorA | rabies: I cant offhand remeber when they were added to 2.6 series |
15:31.28 | rabies | 2.6.11 is fairly recent isnt it? |
15:31.30 | XorA | rabies: again I think there is an article on oz.org that tells this |
15:31.57 | XorA | rabies: yeah, but distribs are notorious for doing stupid stuff :-) |
15:32.06 | rabies | i think its vanilla... |
15:32.26 | rabies | its vanilla... |
15:32.39 | XorA | that message seems to indicate that linux recognised the Z |
15:32.54 | rabies | ya |
15:32.56 | XorA | rabies: so host side you have to work out why usbnet didnt |
15:33.07 | rabies | i dunno how it works |
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15:33.44 | XorA | rabies: on a correctly functioning system hotplug should have modprobed usbnet and brought up usb0 |
15:34.00 | XorA | rabies: lsmod on desktop side and check CDCEther didnt get probed in |
15:35.34 | rabies | didnt |
15:35.40 | rabies | i guess i dont have the module |
15:35.53 | XorA | rabies: what distrib BTW? |
15:36.00 | rabies | debian etch |
15:36.31 | XorA | rabies: thats what I run |
15:37.32 | XorA | rabies: if thats a debian kernel usbnet should be there |
15:37.58 | XorA | /lib/modules/2.6.11-1-k7/kernel/drivers/usb/net/ |
15:38.18 | rabies | support wasnt enabled |
15:38.50 | XorA | rabies: ah, that wont help :-) |
15:39.12 | rabies | :) |
15:39.14 | rabies | time to recompile |
15:39.47 | XorA | I always take the debian defult .config file and remove stuff |
15:41.35 | rabies | heh |
15:48.51 | rabies | my config is mostly okay :) |
15:51.42 | rabies | btw, how well does multisync work? |
15:52.04 | XorA | rabies: I used it once to move from opie->gpe and it worked |
15:52.17 | rabies | heh |
15:52.46 | XorA | oh, I tried it with evolution, but evolution sucks ass |
15:53.00 | rabies | i like evolution |
15:53.03 | XorA | multisync worked but evolution kept corrupting its own files so I gave up |
15:53.49 | rabies | hopefully they fixed that... |
15:54.17 | XorA | probably, I gave up at point when I could enter a contact in evo, quit reload and it was garbaged |
15:54.43 | rabies | lol |
15:54.48 | rabies | what version was this? |
15:55.08 | XorA | rabies: dunno, probably about a year ago |
15:55.14 | rabies | a while then |
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16:36.39 | rabies | rebootin time |
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17:34.46 | rabies | hey |
17:34.51 | rabies | can i use the usb connection to connect to the internet? |
17:37.02 | phrag | with the usbnet module and a linux box |
17:38.12 | JustinP | yes |
17:38.22 | JustinP | rabies: with Windows too |
17:38.34 | JustinP | rabies: and Max OS X |
17:38.36 | JustinP | Mac |
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17:47.28 | rabies | im on linux |
17:47.38 | rabies | i followed a guide on how to set it up and now i can ping it |
17:47.44 | rabies | but looks like i still cant access the internet w/ it |
17:48.17 | CoreDump|home | usb net can be a bitch |
17:48.24 | rabies | heh |
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17:48.34 | rabies | any ideas at least on how to use multisync? |
17:48.46 | CoreDump|home | reboot the Z before trying anything. Suspend b0rks USB |
17:49.08 | JustinP | rabies: if you can ping it you're very close. You just have to set up routing/NAT on the linux box |
17:49.31 | rabies | JustinP: okay |
17:49.37 | rabies | JustinP: any ideas or guides on how to do that? |
17:50.20 | JustinP | rabies: look up "NAT" or "IP Masquerading" HOWTOs |
17:51.38 | rabies | multisync isnt syncing using ftp... |
17:51.45 | rabies | im guessing i need a package |
17:51.51 | rabies | or can i sync using something else? |
17:56.41 | rabies | hum.. |
18:03.11 | rabies | do i have to bridge? |
18:04.49 | JustinP | rabies: bridging may work. I've always just used NAT though. |
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18:54.47 | RudiRendeer | hi everybody |
18:55.19 | RudiRendeer | anybody there woh knows how to get a wlan card startet at openzaurus3.5.3 |
18:55.21 | RudiRendeer | ? |
18:56.05 | [cc]smart | insert configure surf |
18:56.11 | [cc]smart | remove |
18:56.14 | [cc]smart | insert surf |
18:56.27 | RudiRendeer | hm doesn't work at 3.5.2 it works but not at 3.5.3 |
18:56.43 | [cc]smart | meaning it doesnt detect the card ? |
18:56.45 | RudiRendeer | it is an d-link dcf 660w |
18:56.50 | [cc]smart | same as me |
18:56.54 | [cc]smart | works fine |
18:56.54 | [cc]smart | but |
18:56.59 | RudiRendeer | hm detecting ok, beacause says the vendor |
18:57.05 | RudiRendeer | but?? |
18:57.14 | [cc]smart | iirc i read that with <an updated kernel> there have been issues |
18:57.34 | [cc]smart | the kernel update resolves the hibernate, but afaik has problems with dcf660 |
18:57.40 | RudiRendeer | hm isn't update normaly 2.48 |
18:57.54 | [cc]smart | dunno |
18:57.57 | [cc]smart | dont use it |
18:58.01 | [cc]smart | i dont |
18:58.18 | RudiRendeer | but at the boot monitor he says the kernel name is wrong, is that right? |
18:58.26 | [cc]smart | ?? |
18:58.35 | [cc]smart | sth wrong wouldnt be right |
18:58.58 | RudiRendeer | hm but it is the original kernel from www.openzaurus.org |
18:58.58 | [cc]smart | sounds like a possible reason for your issue to me |
18:59.09 | RudiRendeer | hm can i rename the kernel? |
18:59.23 | [cc]smart | i'd guess it doesnt make sense |
18:59.42 | RudiRendeer | hm but where can i get the right kernel?? |
18:59.56 | [cc]smart | but i don't really know when/where this message comes up on your end |
18:59.59 | RudiRendeer | or is there anything to remove before flashing? |
19:00.10 | [cc]smart | no, if you flash you'll just nail everything |
19:00.19 | RudiRendeer | hm thing so too |
19:00.22 | [cc]smart | er, does it mean the kernel name is wrong for fashing ? |
19:00.22 | RudiRendeer | think |
19:00.28 | [cc]smart | zImage |
19:00.31 | [cc]smart | iirc |
19:00.36 | [cc]smart | no fancy stuff |
19:01.08 | [cc]smart | when do you see this message ? |
19:01.20 | RudiRendeer | right by the booting monitor |
19:01.26 | RudiRendeer | mom i'll read |
19:01.36 | [cc]smart | you mean after flashing or before flashing or while flashing ? |
19:01.39 | RudiRendeer | ok says: |
19:01.57 | RudiRendeer | no everytime also after a few reboots |
19:02.45 | RudiRendeer | you are running kernel 2.4.1-rmkl-pxo3-emmbeddix-021129 |
19:03.06 | [cc]smart | doesn't sound right to me |
19:03.11 | [cc]smart | no good |
19:03.13 | [cc]smart | mom |
19:03.18 | [cc]smart | i'll verify with mine |
19:03.22 | RudiRendeer | hm shit what is wrong? |
19:03.35 | [cc]smart | er, just to make sure, you run collie... |
19:03.46 | [cc]smart | ? |
19:03.52 | RudiRendeer | i tryed it with mor then one zimage and initrd |
19:04.02 | RudiRendeer | yeah |
19:04.12 | [cc]smart | i mean, whats the exact device youre using ? |
19:04.37 | RudiRendeer | the graphic is running and all programms also |
19:04.41 | RudiRendeer | let me see |
19:04.51 | RudiRendeer | you know where to rename kernel? |
19:05.00 | [cc]smart | forget about renaming the kernel |
19:05.04 | [cc]smart | tell me what device you use |
19:05.34 | RudiRendeer | you mean zaurus?? |
19:05.37 | RudiRendeer | Sl-5500g |
19:05.49 | [cc]smart | fire up console and do |
19:05.51 | [cc]smart | uname -a |
19:05.57 | RudiRendeer | mom |
19:06.09 | RudiRendeer | i have to restart |
19:06.15 | [cc]smart | you should find 2.4.18-rmk7-pxa3-embedix |
19:07.16 | RudiRendeer | ok |
19:07.35 | RudiRendeer | let me see |
19:08.59 | [cc]smart | then verify with |
19:09.03 | [cc]smart | ls /lib/modules |
19:09.28 | RudiRendeer | same |
19:09.44 | [cc]smart | uname -a same as mine ? |
19:09.54 | RudiRendeer | yeah |
19:09.56 | [cc]smart | AND ls /lib/modules same ? |
19:10.02 | RudiRendeer | and ls also |
19:10.18 | [cc]smart | mom |
19:11.14 | [cc]smart | cat /proc/sys/kernel/osrelease |
19:11.19 | [cc]smart | same ? |
19:12.29 | RudiRendeer | yes |
19:13.28 | [cc]smart | mom |
19:14.52 | [cc]smart | your dcf is ejected now ? |
19:15.18 | RudiRendeer | yes |
19:15.31 | [cc]smart | dmesg and try to memorize the last line |
19:15.44 | [cc]smart | insert dcf |
19:15.46 | [cc]smart | dmesg |
19:15.51 | [cc]smart | see what was added |
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19:16.26 | petya | re |
19:16.30 | petya | how can i make a bigger taskbar in opie? |
19:16.34 | petya | i have got a c760 |
19:16.46 | RudiRendeer | hm it added check up battery |
19:17.02 | [cc]smart | plug in your pwer cord := |
19:17.07 | RudiRendeer | and the lastline was registered device irda |
19:17.08 | [cc]smart | i guess |
19:17.09 | [cc]smart | :) |
19:17.13 | [cc]smart | lsmod |
19:17.17 | RudiRendeer | no it is inside |
19:17.19 | [cc]smart | do you see hostap ? |
19:17.42 | RudiRendeer | no |
19:18.00 | RudiRendeer | poo´ssible to load mannually? |
19:18.06 | RudiRendeer | hups |
19:18.12 | [cc]smart | yes, do we want that ? no |
19:18.19 | RudiRendeer | my fingers are to fast |
19:18.30 | RudiRendeer | let me try |
19:18.34 | RudiRendeer | but how? |
19:19.04 | [cc]smart | mom |
19:20.48 | [cc]smart | ps -ef |
19:20.52 | [cc]smart | do you see cardmgr ? |
19:22.05 | RudiRendeer | yes i see |
19:22.18 | [cc]smart | hm |
19:22.43 | [cc]smart | we'll verify manual indeed |
19:22.47 | [cc]smart | modprobe hostap |
19:23.01 | [cc]smart | result ? |
19:23.49 | RudiRendeer | unresolved symbol iw_handler_set_thrspy |
19:23.52 | RudiRendeer | and so on |
19:23.56 | RudiRendeer | and so on |
19:24.00 | RudiRendeer | last message is |
19:24.02 | [cc]smart | nice |
19:24.04 | [cc]smart | depmod -a |
19:24.14 | RudiRendeer | failed to load module hostap |
19:24.43 | [cc]smart | result ? |
19:25.07 | RudiRendeer | unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18-rmk7-pxa-embedix/net/hostap.o |
19:25.37 | [cc]smart | any other ? |
19:25.45 | RudiRendeer | no |
19:26.16 | [cc]smart | mom |
19:27.18 | [cc]smart | you have used packagemanager already ? |
19:27.27 | RudiRendeer | no |
19:27.51 | [cc]smart | and currently you have no connection to zaurus... |
19:28.00 | RudiRendeer | no |
19:28.08 | RudiRendeer | only power strap :-) |
19:29.59 | [cc]smart | hm |
19:30.09 | [cc]smart | ipkg list | grep kernel-module |
19:30.25 | [cc]smart | iirc you should find an sa1100 |
19:31.38 | Biblio_peb | Hi [cc]smart, have you used apt on the Z before? |
19:32.02 | Biblio_peb | Hi [cc]smart any idea on what to enter for a "suitable packaging system type? |
19:32.03 | RudiRendeer | found it |
19:32.12 | RudiRendeer | sa1100-bi |
19:32.47 | [cc]smart | packaging system type ? |
19:33.02 | [cc]smart | Rudi: mom, will try to identify what module could be missing |
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19:33.31 | RudiRendeer | nice |
19:33.36 | RudiRendeer | thx |
19:35.03 | [cc]smart | strange. doesn't list dependencies for me |
19:35.36 | RudiRendeer | the zaurus matrix ;-) |
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19:37.55 | [cc]smart | arg |
19:37.57 | [cc]smart | hate it |
19:38.00 | Biblio_peb | [cc]smart, yes, I've installed apt and now apt complains about the suitable packaging system type (I've currently not created a sources list ...) |
19:38.06 | [cc]smart | rudi: this would indded point to possibly the kernel itself not matching |
19:38.42 | RudiRendeer | ok, but what can it be |
19:38.50 | [cc]smart | just i don't see it |
19:38.50 | [cc]smart | you are sure flashing went allright ? |
19:38.50 | [cc]smart | biblio: never used apt |
19:38.50 | [cc]smart | so dunno |
19:38.54 | RudiRendeer | hmmm, strange |
19:39.43 | Biblio_peb | [cc]smart, I'm a debian kid, so I want apt on the Z ... let me see what / how It can be done :-) |
19:41.23 | [cc]smart | rudi: are you sure the flashing went allright ? |
19:41.58 | RudiRendeer | yes i flashed the azurus several times |
19:42.00 | [cc]smart | biblio: i know there are people using apt for Z |
19:42.17 | [cc]smart | and you named zimage correctly ? |
19:42.19 | [cc]smart | on cf |
19:42.20 | RudiRendeer | but is it possible, that at the download went something wrong |
19:42.30 | RudiRendeer | yes named it zImage |
19:42.41 | RudiRendeer | but it was a .bin file |
19:42.44 | RudiRendeer | wrong? |
19:43.13 | [cc]smart | will have to check... |
19:43.48 | [cc]smart | arg, i hate it. my server chokes on one disc that is about to die. and since i use diskless client, when it happens this struggles, too. |
19:44.01 | [cc]smart | need to replace that |
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19:45.36 | [cc]smart | yes. zImage only. remove the .bin |
19:46.16 | RudiRendeer | hm ok |
19:46.28 | RudiRendeer | i'll see |
19:46.30 | [cc]smart | flash and be happy |
19:46.33 | [cc]smart | :) |
19:46.41 | RudiRendeer | ok thanks a lot |
19:46.44 | [cc]smart | you might choose to flash zImage only |
19:46.48 | [cc]smart | should work too |
19:46.53 | RudiRendeer | how? |
19:47.00 | [cc]smart | just having zImage on the CF |
19:47.25 | RudiRendeer | yes and then normaly flashing? |
19:47.30 | [cc]smart | yes |
19:47.40 | RudiRendeer | ok i'll try |
19:47.43 | [cc]smart | but if you want to be sure, do as usual |
19:47.57 | RudiRendeer | if it doesn't work i'll come back tomorrow :-) |
19:48.50 | RudiRendeer | bye and thx |
19:48.57 | [cc]smart | have fun |
19:49.15 | paxl_ | Somone here that run Oz on a Collie ? |
19:49.46 | [cc]smart | just until now there were at least two |
19:49.51 | [cc]smart | missed it ? :) |
19:49.57 | paxl_ | oki |
19:50.02 | paxl_ | I need you precious help :) |
19:50.23 | paxl_ | With the r21 kernel. is that normal that I crash sometime like 10% of the time when I suspend ? |
19:50.30 | paxl_ | [ I'm using a root on SD ] |
19:50.39 | [cc]smart | you mean the original 3.5.3 kernel ? |
19:50.45 | paxl_ | and I'm using Oz last version with Opie 64/0 |
19:50.50 | paxl_ | nop |
19:50.52 | paxl_ | the new |
19:51.10 | paxl_ | I ipkg update; ipkg upgrade.. copy the kernel to the cf remove other file and flash.. |
19:51.13 | [cc]smart | you mean you started with 3.5.3, you updated kernel and now you have suspend issues ? |
19:51.18 | paxl_ | yep |
19:51.27 | paxl_ | is that normal ? |
19:51.42 | [cc]smart | and you did name the kernel zImage, without .bin and any other stuff, while maintaining capital I ? |
19:51.53 | paxl_ | what I don't understant is that the uname -a don't show the r21 |
19:51.54 | paxl_ | yep |
19:52.10 | paxl_ | zImage without any other file on my cf |
19:52.21 | [cc]smart | and flashing didnt show errors and it took some time |
19:52.28 | [cc]smart | not like comming back immediately |
19:52.28 | paxl_ | yep.. |
19:52.33 | [cc]smart | one sec |
19:52.40 | paxl_ | it did'nt take one sec |
19:52.44 | paxl_ | it take like 10 sec.. |
19:53.47 | paxl_ | can you say to me what uname -a give on your zaurus ? |
19:53.49 | [cc]smart | it is know that with original 3.5.3 there were issues |
19:54.13 | [cc]smart | i use original kernel, cause i know to avoid the suspend issues :) |
19:54.27 | paxl_ | can you teach me ? |
19:54.30 | [cc]smart | my uname you can find a couple lines above |
19:54.53 | [cc]smart | to use cursor keys before suspend |
19:55.01 | [cc]smart | avoid hitting them when you do |
19:55.09 | paxl_ | 2.4.18-rmk7-pxa3-embedix << is this the r21 or the stock kernel ? |
19:55.23 | [cc]smart | to suspend hold cancel for about 1 sec, maybe a little less |
19:55.33 | [cc]smart | don't hold cancel until it suspends |
19:55.39 | paxl_ | ok |
19:55.53 | [cc]smart | it should suspend about half a sec after you left the key |
19:56.02 | [cc]smart | maybe a sec |
19:56.29 | [cc]smart | in any case the newer kernel is supposed to not have THIS issue |
19:56.42 | [cc]smart | hrw is the guy who worked on that |
19:56.59 | [cc]smart | he's got a HP you can find linked on openzaurus website |
19:57.09 | paxl_ | a HP ? |
19:57.09 | [cc]smart | you'll probably find some info there |
19:57.12 | [cc]smart | homepage |
19:57.17 | paxl_ | oki.. |
19:57.27 | [cc]smart | in any case, he might be interested in your situation |
19:57.29 | paxl_ | but is tehre any other way to bug the zaurus ? |
19:57.44 | paxl_ | 2.4.18-rmk7-pxa3-embedix << is this the r21 kernel or the old ? |
19:58.32 | [cc]smart | so if you want, you can hang out on #oe, wait until he comes around and kindly tell him that you use the new kernel and it seems you still have an issue with suspend while it was expected that with this kernel, this should disappear |
19:58.48 | [cc]smart | and see if he has an advice or questions |
19:58.53 | paxl_ | oki |
19:58.57 | paxl_ | I'll |
19:59.20 | [cc]smart | i dunno what uname the neewer one would give |
19:59.32 | paxl_ | since you don't use the newer |
19:59.47 | [cc]smart | exactly :) |
20:00.35 | paxl_ | but excepting the tip to dont HOLD cancel can Oz bug on suspand ? |
20:00.47 | [cc]smart | i had it ONCE |
20:01.05 | paxl_ | because when it hang.. that broke the FS.. |
20:01.08 | [cc]smart | if it bugs, you need powerchord since it can be expected that battery is drained |
20:01.19 | [cc]smart | didn't happen to me |
20:01.33 | paxl_ | oki |
20:01.44 | [cc]smart | and i'm using for quite a while |
20:02.18 | paxl_ | this is because I'm planning on using it as a PDA.. so I don't want it to bug in the middle of something importent |
20:02.36 | [cc]smart | well what can i say ? there is no warranty. |
20:02.46 | paxl_ | also.. in text mode.. what are the equivalent of ctrl/alt... |
20:02.55 | [cc]smart | ask M$ for warranties on your data.... |
20:03.07 | [cc]smart | what do you mean... |
20:03.28 | [cc]smart | ctrl is fn |
20:03.50 | [cc]smart | for special stuff, use software keyboard M (meta) right of space |
20:03.58 | paxl_ | oki |
20:04.08 | [cc]smart | aka pipe :) |
20:04.56 | paxl_ | how to open the sw keybord in text mode ? |
20:05.09 | paxl_ | I luv backup utilitie :) |
20:05.43 | [cc]smart | ah, you mean text mode before actually having gpe or opie ? |
20:05.48 | [cc]smart | console |
20:06.03 | paxl_ | sorry to haven't taken the right word |
20:06.20 | [cc]smart | so thats what you seek ? |
20:06.24 | paxl_ | yep |
20:06.41 | [cc]smart | good question indeed |
20:06.42 | [cc]smart | :) |
20:06.48 | paxl_ | hehe |
20:07.01 | paxl_ | are you running them with a root on sd ? |
20:07.03 | [cc]smart | strg is fnstill |
20:07.13 | [cc]smart | yes, i moved root to sd |
20:07.17 | [cc]smart | best thing you can do |
20:07.21 | [cc]smart | you get space |
20:07.31 | [cc]smart | and you get to save wear on internal flash |
20:07.48 | paxl_ | bahh it's only getting 200 mb instead 15 :) |
20:08.05 | [cc]smart | your choice |
20:08.22 | [cc]smart | in any case, wear is reduced a lot on internal flash |
20:08.31 | [cc]smart | that alone is wortwhile the whole move |
20:08.49 | paxl_ | hehe.. yes.. do SD is slower than internal flash ? |
20:09.05 | [cc]smart | prolly depends on the model |
20:09.09 | [cc]smart | there a big differences |
20:09.23 | [cc]smart | GPS guys usually know which to use very well |
20:09.34 | [cc]smart | for what i got, keep away from those standard sandisk |
20:09.37 | [cc]smart | expensive & slow |
20:09.42 | [cc]smart | no good combination |
20:09.52 | paxl_ | oki.. I"m using a .. wait a se |
20:09.53 | paxl_ | c |
20:10.02 | [cc]smart | so far i had good experience with ultra el cheapo pqi |
20:10.13 | paxl_ | dane-elec 256 mb |
20:10.18 | [cc]smart | dunno |
20:11.22 | [cc]smart | those with tomtoms in their forii discuss SD card speed a lot, since it means a difference for navigation on pdas |
20:11.49 | [cc]smart | like waitingone minute or 10 minutes for the route to get calculated |
20:12.02 | paxl_ | hehe |
20:13.33 | [cc]smart | http://www.oesf.org/index.php?title=Character_Input |
20:13.54 | paxl_ | ahh why there is a dependecyt problem with konqueror-embeded in the feed |
20:14.01 | paxl_ | how to fix it ? |
20:14.42 | [cc]smart | er, know which package you need and install before :) |
20:14.53 | [cc]smart | and let oe devs know |
20:15.11 | [cc]smart | is there a bugzilla link or so on OZ homepage ? |
20:15.11 | paxl_ | oe devs ? |
20:15.16 | [cc]smart | openembedded |
20:15.16 | paxl_ | yeah |
20:15.36 | [cc]smart | leave your bugreport there |
20:16.31 | paxl_ | oki |
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20:16.46 | RudiRendeer | hi |
20:17.38 | RudiRendeer | it works @ |
20:17.47 | [cc]smart | we didnt expect anything else |
20:17.57 | [cc]smart | :) |
20:19.38 | RudiRendeer | i chat from my zaurus :-) |
20:19.45 | paxl_ | coolos :) |
20:20.00 | paxl_ | I'll reflash mine since he got some bugs :) |
20:20.15 | Biblio_peb | a completely differnt question - how do you protect your Z screen? there are these expensive protectors, anything cheaper you use? |
20:20.49 | RudiRendeer | I am happy |
20:21.01 | Biblio_peb | Rudi, gratulations1 |
20:21.19 | RudiRendeer | hm i protect it with the normal cover |
20:21.40 | RudiRendeer | and my screen is ok |
20:21.55 | [cc]smart | use real stuff there |
20:22.08 | [cc]smart | el cheapo in this place is not recommended |
20:22.17 | Biblio_peb | what is real? any brand suggestion? |
20:22.21 | [cc]smart | just take care that you are not just ripped for the money |
20:23.23 | RudiRendeer | money no have :-) |
20:24.08 | [cc]smart | it should apply well (on good ones e.g. small bubbles, if not so big, will nearly disappear after some time) |
20:24.22 | RudiRendeer | ok boys and girls will go to bed |
20:24.25 | RudiRendeer | see ya |
20:24.29 | [cc]smart | think mine are ok and i leave em on for half year to year |
20:24.45 | [cc]smart | n8 |
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20:25.30 | [cc]smart | rudi is right |
20:25.33 | [cc]smart | time for a nap |
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21:20.15 | paxl_ | Do somone here know if it is possible to ipkg update on a 64/0 rom on a 5500 |
21:21.18 | JustinP | of course it is |
21:21.27 | JustinP | it may not eb possible on the default install in flash, though |
21:21.35 | JustinP | because of space issues... |
21:21.43 | JustinP | you can always uninstall something or move root to SD |
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21:49.57 | paxl_ | JustinP: thank yah.. this explain why it bugged :) |
21:50.06 | paxl_ | I'll do it after my root on sd.. :) |
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