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00:29.30paxl_what is the keymap to change terminal in the zaurus ?
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01:52.13paxl_What browser can I use in Oz ?
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03:41.53paxl_Ugh.. Why it froze on Suspand sometime using a 5500 with the kernel 2.4.18-rmk7-pxa3-embedix.. is this the r21 kernel ?
04:17.44CoreDump|afkpaxl_: use "Calendar" (IIRC) and Right-Arrow to switch from VT to Opie (VT2), or use chvt 2
04:18.09CoreDump|afkopera works w/ sharp-compat-libs, konq/e ain't bad either
04:19.14CoreDump|afkdid you flash the "r21" kernel? r21 is _not_ the kernel from the OZ d/l directory, it can only be found in the upgrade feed AFAIK
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04:48.58rabiesi uh, turned off opie on my SL-5500 and now it wont turn back on when i press the cancel button like it should, anyone know how to turn it back on
04:50.15rabiesit wont turn on!
04:52.24rabiesfinally it turned back on
04:52.26rabieswtf happened...
05:03.08rabiesnow it wont turn off!
05:10.21ljpha
05:17.58rabies=P
05:18.03rabieshad to manually reset it
05:18.07rabiesthat sucked
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07:06.12alan|philohi !
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07:36.49reallocDoes anyone here uses GPE on Zaurus SL-6000 ?
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12:35.48alan|notebookre
12:35.56XorAhey alan
12:36.13alan|notebookyop XorA !
12:37.48alan|notebookwhat's up with 3.5.4 ? any news ?
12:39.01XorAalan|notebook: progressing :-)
12:39.10XorA2.6.13-rc5-mm1 is looking stable
12:40.08alan|notebookgreat. what does it improve ?
12:43.12XorA:-D
12:43.28XorAalan|notebook: not sure, but its newer :-)
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12:50.08alan|notebookniarf...
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15:13.53rabieshi
15:14.12rabiesim trying to get my OZ to connect to my computer via usb so that i can download packages and sync
15:14.38rabiesi probed the usbnet module, but i dont get the actual device in the ifconfig -a (no usb0)
15:14.39XorArabwhich Z
15:14.43rabiesSL-5500
15:14.55XorAmodprobe usb_monitor
15:14.59rabies2.6.11.10
15:15.03XorAthen plug in cable
15:15.15rabiesi dont have that module
15:15.30XorAmaybe its usbd-monitor
15:15.44rabiesnot found
15:15.46XorAon Z side
15:15.51rabiesoohh
15:15.53rabieson Z side?
15:16.02XorAmodprobe on Z
15:17.05rabieshrm
15:17.35rabiesneither are found
15:17.36rabieson the Z
15:17.45rabiesno usb_monitor or usbd_monitor
15:18.40rabies=\
15:19.00XorAdoes an lsmod on Z show sa1100_bi?
15:19.31rabiesya
15:19.56XorArabies: ok, try removing usb cable, rmmod sa1100_bi; modprobe sa1100_bi
15:20.10XorArabies: suspend on a 5500 kills the device driver
15:20.23XorAthen plug the usb cable back in
15:21.15rabiesheres the thing though
15:21.23rabiesit wont turn off or on if i shut it down
15:21.40rabiesstill no usb0
15:22.46XorArabies: sounds like your collie is not quite right, unfortuneately I think all the collie people are away today
15:23.13rabiesmy collie isnt quite right???
15:23.16rabiesyou're serious?
15:24.35XorArabies: the fact it wont turn off/on is a major problem
15:25.02rabiesyeah..
15:25.10rabiesthink its a hardware defect or a software one?
15:25.27XorArabies: probably software, but not owning a collie I dont know the common gotchas
15:25.31rabieswhats the right way to turn it off btw?
15:25.51XorArabies: hold down cancel button I think, or suspend from menu
15:26.02rabiessuspend works fine..
15:26.06rabiesthats how i do turn it off
15:26.17XorArabies: there is no "off" off
15:26.17rabiesits when i do a full shutdown that problems crop up
15:26.40rabiesor when i shutdown using the cancel button
15:26.51XorArabies: which version of OZ?
15:26.56rabies3.5.3
15:27.13XorArabies: sounds like that is what is fixed with r21 upgrade kernel
15:27.21rabiesah
15:27.30rabiesso it was a 3.5.3 specific glitch
15:27.32rabieswhere can i get the update?
15:27.40XorAwww.openzaurus.org
15:27.46rabieswell yeah
15:27.49rabiesbut where on the site?
15:27.55rabiesand do i need that usbnet to update?
15:27.56XorAits one of the articles
15:28.21XorAhttp://openzaurus.org/wordpress/2005/07/27/howto-get-r21-kernel-on-collie/
15:29.17XorAthough that wont change the usbnet problem
15:30.22rabieswhat am i doing wrong w/ usbnet?
15:30.28rabiesam i missing a computer side module?
15:30.50rabiesroot@gamma:/usr/src/linux-2.6.11.10# lsusb
15:30.50rabiesBus 002 Device 011: ID 04dd:8004 Sharp Corp. Zaurus SL-5000D/SL-5500 PDA
15:30.55XorArabies: some linux distibs miss the ID codes for Z in their usbnet modules
15:31.14XorArabies: I cant offhand remeber when they were added to 2.6 series
15:31.28rabies2.6.11 is fairly recent isnt it?
15:31.30XorArabies: again I think there is an article on oz.org that tells this
15:31.57XorArabies: yeah, but distribs are notorious for doing stupid stuff :-)
15:32.06rabiesi think its vanilla...
15:32.26rabiesits vanilla...
15:32.39XorAthat message seems to indicate that linux recognised the Z
15:32.54rabiesya
15:32.56XorArabies: so host side you have to work out why usbnet didnt
15:33.07rabiesi dunno how it works
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15:33.44XorArabies: on a correctly functioning system hotplug should have modprobed usbnet and brought up usb0
15:34.00XorArabies: lsmod on desktop side and check CDCEther didnt get probed in
15:35.34rabiesdidnt
15:35.40rabiesi guess i dont have the module
15:35.53XorArabies: what distrib BTW?
15:36.00rabiesdebian etch
15:36.31XorArabies: thats what I run
15:37.32XorArabies: if thats a debian kernel usbnet should be there
15:37.58XorA/lib/modules/2.6.11-1-k7/kernel/drivers/usb/net/
15:38.18rabiessupport wasnt enabled
15:38.50XorArabies: ah, that wont help :-)
15:39.12rabies:)
15:39.14rabiestime to recompile
15:39.47XorAI always take the debian defult .config file and remove stuff
15:41.35rabiesheh
15:48.51rabiesmy config is mostly okay :)
15:51.42rabiesbtw, how well does multisync work?
15:52.04XorArabies: I used it once to move from opie->gpe and it worked
15:52.17rabiesheh
15:52.46XorAoh, I tried it with evolution, but evolution sucks ass
15:53.00rabiesi like evolution
15:53.03XorAmultisync worked but evolution kept corrupting its own files so I gave up
15:53.49rabieshopefully they fixed that...
15:54.17XorAprobably, I gave up at point when I could enter a contact in evo, quit reload and it was garbaged
15:54.43rabieslol
15:54.48rabieswhat version was this?
15:55.08XorArabies: dunno, probably about a year ago
15:55.14rabiesa while then
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16:36.39rabiesrebootin time
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17:34.46rabieshey
17:34.51rabiescan i use the usb connection to connect to the internet?
17:37.02phragwith the usbnet module and a linux box
17:38.12JustinPyes
17:38.22JustinPrabies: with Windows too
17:38.34JustinPrabies: and Max OS X
17:38.36JustinPMac
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17:47.28rabiesim on linux
17:47.38rabiesi followed a guide on how to set it up and now i can ping it
17:47.44rabiesbut looks like i still cant access the internet w/ it
17:48.17CoreDump|homeusb net can be a bitch
17:48.24rabiesheh
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17:48.34rabiesany ideas at least on how to use multisync?
17:48.46CoreDump|homereboot the Z before trying anything. Suspend b0rks USB
17:49.08JustinPrabies: if you can ping it you're very close. You just have to set up routing/NAT on the linux box
17:49.31rabiesJustinP: okay
17:49.37rabiesJustinP: any ideas or guides on how to do that?
17:50.20JustinPrabies: look up "NAT" or "IP Masquerading" HOWTOs
17:51.38rabiesmultisync isnt syncing using ftp...
17:51.45rabiesim guessing i need a package
17:51.51rabiesor can i sync using something else?
17:56.41rabieshum..
18:03.11rabiesdo i have to bridge?
18:04.49JustinPrabies: bridging may work. I've always just used NAT though.
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18:54.47RudiRendeerhi everybody
18:55.19RudiRendeeranybody there woh knows how to get a wlan card startet at openzaurus3.5.3
18:55.21RudiRendeer?
18:56.05[cc]smartinsert configure surf
18:56.11[cc]smartremove
18:56.14[cc]smartinsert surf
18:56.27RudiRendeerhm doesn't work at 3.5.2 it works but not at 3.5.3
18:56.43[cc]smartmeaning it doesnt detect the card ?
18:56.45RudiRendeerit is an d-link dcf 660w
18:56.50[cc]smartsame as me
18:56.54[cc]smartworks fine
18:56.54[cc]smartbut
18:56.59RudiRendeerhm detecting ok, beacause says the vendor
18:57.05RudiRendeerbut??
18:57.14[cc]smartiirc i read that with <an updated kernel> there have been issues
18:57.34[cc]smartthe kernel update resolves the hibernate, but afaik has problems with dcf660
18:57.40RudiRendeerhm isn't update normaly 2.48
18:57.54[cc]smartdunno
18:57.57[cc]smartdont use it
18:58.01[cc]smarti dont
18:58.18RudiRendeerbut at the boot monitor he says the kernel name is wrong, is that right?
18:58.26[cc]smart??
18:58.35[cc]smartsth wrong wouldnt be right
18:58.58RudiRendeerhm but it is the original kernel from www.openzaurus.org
18:58.58[cc]smartsounds like a possible reason for your issue to me
18:59.09RudiRendeerhm can i rename the kernel?
18:59.23[cc]smarti'd guess it doesnt make sense
18:59.42RudiRendeerhm but where can i get the right kernel??
18:59.56[cc]smartbut i don't really know when/where this message comes up on your end
18:59.59RudiRendeeror is there anything to remove before flashing?
19:00.10[cc]smartno, if you flash you'll just nail everything
19:00.19RudiRendeerhm thing so too
19:00.22[cc]smarter, does it mean the kernel name is wrong for fashing ?
19:00.22RudiRendeerthink
19:00.28[cc]smartzImage
19:00.31[cc]smartiirc
19:00.36[cc]smartno fancy stuff
19:01.08[cc]smartwhen do you see this message ?
19:01.20RudiRendeerright by the booting monitor
19:01.26RudiRendeermom i'll read
19:01.36[cc]smartyou mean after flashing or before flashing or while flashing ?
19:01.39RudiRendeerok says:
19:01.57RudiRendeerno everytime also after a few reboots
19:02.45RudiRendeeryou are running kernel 2.4.1-rmkl-pxo3-emmbeddix-021129
19:03.06[cc]smartdoesn't sound right to me
19:03.11[cc]smartno good
19:03.13[cc]smartmom
19:03.18[cc]smarti'll verify with mine
19:03.22RudiRendeerhm shit what is wrong?
19:03.35[cc]smarter, just to make sure, you run collie...
19:03.46[cc]smart?
19:03.52RudiRendeeri tryed it with mor then one zimage and initrd
19:04.02RudiRendeeryeah
19:04.12[cc]smarti mean, whats the exact device youre using ?
19:04.37RudiRendeerthe  graphic is running and all programms also
19:04.41RudiRendeerlet me see
19:04.51RudiRendeeryou know where to rename kernel?
19:05.00[cc]smartforget about renaming the kernel
19:05.04[cc]smarttell me what device you use
19:05.34RudiRendeeryou mean zaurus??
19:05.37RudiRendeerSl-5500g
19:05.49[cc]smartfire up console and do
19:05.51[cc]smartuname -a
19:05.57RudiRendeermom
19:06.09RudiRendeeri have to restart
19:06.15[cc]smartyou should find 2.4.18-rmk7-pxa3-embedix
19:07.16RudiRendeerok
19:07.35RudiRendeerlet me see
19:08.59[cc]smartthen verify with
19:09.03[cc]smartls /lib/modules
19:09.28RudiRendeersame
19:09.44[cc]smartuname -a same as mine ?
19:09.54RudiRendeeryeah
19:09.56[cc]smartAND ls /lib/modules same ?
19:10.02RudiRendeerand ls also
19:10.18[cc]smartmom
19:11.14[cc]smartcat /proc/sys/kernel/osrelease
19:11.19[cc]smartsame ?
19:12.29RudiRendeeryes
19:13.28[cc]smartmom
19:14.52[cc]smartyour dcf is ejected now ?
19:15.18RudiRendeeryes
19:15.31[cc]smartdmesg and try to memorize the last line
19:15.44[cc]smartinsert dcf
19:15.46[cc]smartdmesg
19:15.51[cc]smartsee what was added
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19:16.26petyare
19:16.30petyahow can i make a bigger taskbar in opie?
19:16.34petyai have got a c760
19:16.46RudiRendeerhm it added check up battery
19:17.02[cc]smartplug in your pwer cord :=
19:17.07RudiRendeerand the lastline was registered device irda
19:17.08[cc]smarti guess
19:17.09[cc]smart:)
19:17.13[cc]smartlsmod
19:17.17RudiRendeerno it is inside
19:17.19[cc]smartdo you see hostap ?
19:17.42RudiRendeerno
19:18.00RudiRendeerpoo´ssible to load mannually?
19:18.06RudiRendeerhups
19:18.12[cc]smartyes, do we want that ? no
19:18.19RudiRendeermy fingers are to fast
19:18.30RudiRendeerlet me try
19:18.34RudiRendeerbut how?
19:19.04[cc]smartmom
19:20.48[cc]smartps -ef
19:20.52[cc]smartdo you see cardmgr ?
19:22.05RudiRendeeryes i see
19:22.18[cc]smarthm
19:22.43[cc]smartwe'll verify manual indeed
19:22.47[cc]smartmodprobe hostap
19:23.01[cc]smartresult ?
19:23.49RudiRendeerunresolved symbol iw_handler_set_thrspy
19:23.52RudiRendeerand so on
19:23.56RudiRendeerand so on
19:24.00RudiRendeerlast message is
19:24.02[cc]smartnice
19:24.04[cc]smartdepmod -a
19:24.14RudiRendeerfailed to load module hostap
19:24.43[cc]smartresult ?
19:25.07RudiRendeerunresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18-rmk7-pxa-embedix/net/hostap.o
19:25.37[cc]smartany other ?
19:25.45RudiRendeerno
19:26.16[cc]smartmom
19:27.18[cc]smartyou have used packagemanager already ?
19:27.27RudiRendeerno
19:27.51[cc]smartand currently you have no connection to zaurus...
19:28.00RudiRendeerno
19:28.08RudiRendeeronly power strap :-)
19:29.59[cc]smarthm
19:30.09[cc]smartipkg list | grep kernel-module
19:30.25[cc]smartiirc you should find an sa1100
19:31.38Biblio_pebHi [cc]smart, have you used apt on the Z before?
19:32.02Biblio_pebHi [cc]smart any idea on what to enter for a "suitable packaging system type?
19:32.03RudiRendeerfound it
19:32.12RudiRendeersa1100-bi
19:32.47[cc]smartpackaging system type ?
19:33.02[cc]smartRudi: mom, will try to identify what module could be missing
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19:33.31RudiRendeernice
19:33.36RudiRendeerthx
19:35.03[cc]smartstrange. doesn't list dependencies for me
19:35.36RudiRendeerthe zaurus matrix ;-)
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19:37.55[cc]smartarg
19:37.57[cc]smarthate it
19:38.00Biblio_peb[cc]smart, yes, I've installed apt and now apt complains about the suitable packaging system type (I've currently not created a sources list ...)
19:38.06[cc]smartrudi: this would indded point to possibly the kernel itself not matching
19:38.42RudiRendeerok, but what can it be
19:38.50[cc]smartjust i don't see it
19:38.50[cc]smartyou are sure flashing went allright ?
19:38.50[cc]smartbiblio: never used apt
19:38.50[cc]smartso dunno
19:38.54RudiRendeerhmmm, strange
19:39.43Biblio_peb[cc]smart, I'm a debian kid, so I want apt on the Z ... let me see what / how It can be done :-)
19:41.23[cc]smartrudi: are you sure the flashing went allright ?
19:41.58RudiRendeeryes i flashed the azurus several times
19:42.00[cc]smartbiblio: i know there are people using apt for Z
19:42.17[cc]smartand you named zimage correctly ?
19:42.19[cc]smarton cf
19:42.20RudiRendeerbut is it possible, that at the download went something wrong
19:42.30RudiRendeeryes named it zImage
19:42.41RudiRendeerbut it was a .bin file
19:42.44RudiRendeerwrong?
19:43.13[cc]smartwill have to check...
19:43.48[cc]smartarg, i hate it. my server chokes on one disc that is about to die. and since i use diskless client, when it happens this struggles, too.
19:44.01[cc]smartneed to replace that
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19:45.36[cc]smartyes. zImage only. remove the .bin
19:46.16RudiRendeerhm ok
19:46.28RudiRendeeri'll see
19:46.30[cc]smartflash and be happy
19:46.33[cc]smart:)
19:46.41RudiRendeerok thanks a lot
19:46.44[cc]smartyou might choose to flash zImage only
19:46.48[cc]smartshould work too
19:46.53RudiRendeerhow?
19:47.00[cc]smartjust having zImage on the CF
19:47.25RudiRendeeryes and then normaly flashing?
19:47.30[cc]smartyes
19:47.40RudiRendeerok i'll try
19:47.43[cc]smartbut if you want to be sure, do as usual
19:47.57RudiRendeerif it doesn't work i'll come back tomorrow :-)
19:48.50RudiRendeerbye and thx
19:48.57[cc]smarthave fun
19:49.15paxl_Somone here that run Oz on a Collie ?
19:49.46[cc]smartjust until now there were at least two
19:49.51[cc]smartmissed it ? :)
19:49.57paxl_oki
19:50.02paxl_I need you precious help :)
19:50.23paxl_With the r21 kernel. is that normal that I crash sometime like 10% of the time when I suspend ?
19:50.30paxl_[ I'm using a root on SD ]
19:50.39[cc]smartyou mean the original 3.5.3 kernel ?
19:50.45paxl_and I'm using Oz last version with Opie 64/0
19:50.50paxl_nop
19:50.52paxl_the new
19:51.10paxl_I ipkg update; ipkg upgrade.. copy the kernel to the cf remove other file and flash..
19:51.13[cc]smartyou mean you started with 3.5.3, you updated kernel and now you have suspend issues ?
19:51.18paxl_yep
19:51.27paxl_is that normal ?
19:51.42[cc]smartand you did name the kernel zImage, without .bin and any other stuff, while maintaining capital I ?
19:51.53paxl_what I don't understant is that the uname -a don't show the r21
19:51.54paxl_yep
19:52.10paxl_zImage without any other file on my cf
19:52.21[cc]smartand flashing didnt show errors and it took some time
19:52.28[cc]smartnot like comming back immediately
19:52.28paxl_yep..
19:52.33[cc]smartone sec
19:52.40paxl_it did'nt take one sec
19:52.44paxl_it take like 10 sec..
19:53.47paxl_can you say to me what uname -a give on your zaurus ?
19:53.49[cc]smartit is know that with original 3.5.3 there were issues
19:54.13[cc]smarti use original kernel, cause i know to avoid the suspend issues :)
19:54.27paxl_can you teach me ?
19:54.30[cc]smartmy uname you can find a couple lines above
19:54.53[cc]smartto use cursor keys before suspend
19:55.01[cc]smartavoid hitting them when you do
19:55.09paxl_2.4.18-rmk7-pxa3-embedix << is this the r21 or the stock kernel ?
19:55.23[cc]smartto suspend hold cancel for about 1 sec, maybe a little less
19:55.33[cc]smartdon't hold cancel until it suspends
19:55.39paxl_ok
19:55.53[cc]smartit should suspend about half a sec after you left the key
19:56.02[cc]smartmaybe a sec
19:56.29[cc]smartin any case the newer kernel is supposed to not have THIS issue
19:56.42[cc]smarthrw is the guy who worked on that
19:56.59[cc]smarthe's got a HP you can find linked on openzaurus website
19:57.09paxl_a HP ?
19:57.09[cc]smartyou'll probably find some info there
19:57.12[cc]smarthomepage
19:57.17paxl_oki..
19:57.27[cc]smartin any case, he might be interested in your situation
19:57.29paxl_but is tehre any other way to bug the zaurus ?
19:57.44paxl_2.4.18-rmk7-pxa3-embedix << is this the r21 kernel or the old ?
19:58.32[cc]smartso if you want, you can hang out on #oe, wait until he comes around and kindly tell him that you use the new kernel and it seems you still have an issue with suspend while it was expected that with this kernel, this should disappear
19:58.48[cc]smartand see if he has an advice or questions
19:58.53paxl_oki
19:58.57paxl_I'll
19:59.20[cc]smarti dunno what uname the neewer one would give
19:59.32paxl_since you don't use the newer
19:59.47[cc]smartexactly :)
20:00.35paxl_but excepting the tip to dont HOLD cancel can Oz bug on suspand ?
20:00.47[cc]smarti had it ONCE
20:01.05paxl_because when it hang.. that broke the FS..
20:01.08[cc]smartif it bugs, you need powerchord since it can be expected that battery is drained
20:01.19[cc]smartdidn't happen to me
20:01.33paxl_oki
20:01.44[cc]smartand i'm using for quite a while
20:02.18paxl_this is because I'm planning on using it as a PDA.. so I don't want it to bug in the middle of something importent
20:02.36[cc]smartwell what can i say ? there is no warranty.
20:02.46paxl_also.. in text mode.. what are the equivalent of ctrl/alt...
20:02.55[cc]smartask M$ for warranties on your data....
20:03.07[cc]smartwhat do you mean...
20:03.28[cc]smartctrl is fn
20:03.50[cc]smartfor special stuff, use software keyboard M (meta) right of space
20:03.58paxl_oki
20:04.08[cc]smartaka pipe :)
20:04.56paxl_how to open the sw keybord in text mode ?
20:05.09paxl_I luv backup utilitie :)
20:05.43[cc]smartah, you mean text mode before actually having gpe or opie ?
20:05.48[cc]smartconsole
20:06.03paxl_sorry to haven't taken the right word
20:06.20[cc]smartso thats what you seek ?
20:06.24paxl_yep
20:06.41[cc]smartgood question indeed
20:06.42[cc]smart:)
20:06.48paxl_hehe
20:07.01paxl_are you running them with a root on sd ?
20:07.03[cc]smartstrg is fnstill
20:07.13[cc]smartyes, i moved root to sd
20:07.17[cc]smartbest thing you can do
20:07.21[cc]smartyou get space
20:07.31[cc]smartand you get to save wear on internal flash
20:07.48paxl_bahh it's only getting 200 mb instead 15 :)
20:08.05[cc]smartyour choice
20:08.22[cc]smartin any case, wear is reduced a lot on internal flash
20:08.31[cc]smartthat alone is wortwhile the whole move
20:08.49paxl_hehe.. yes.. do SD is slower than internal flash ?
20:09.05[cc]smartprolly depends on the model
20:09.09[cc]smartthere a big differences
20:09.23[cc]smartGPS guys usually know which to use very well
20:09.34[cc]smartfor what i got, keep away from those standard sandisk
20:09.37[cc]smartexpensive & slow
20:09.42[cc]smartno good combination
20:09.52paxl_oki.. I"m using a .. wait a se
20:09.53paxl_c
20:10.02[cc]smartso far i had good experience with ultra el cheapo pqi
20:10.13paxl_dane-elec 256 mb
20:10.18[cc]smartdunno
20:11.22[cc]smartthose with tomtoms in their forii discuss SD card speed a lot, since it means a difference for navigation on pdas
20:11.49[cc]smartlike waitingone minute or 10 minutes for the route to get calculated
20:12.02paxl_hehe
20:13.33[cc]smarthttp://www.oesf.org/index.php?title=Character_Input
20:13.54paxl_ahh why there is a dependecyt problem with konqueror-embeded in the feed
20:14.01paxl_how to fix it ?
20:14.42[cc]smarter, know which package you need and install before :)
20:14.53[cc]smartand let oe devs know
20:15.11[cc]smartis there a bugzilla link or so on OZ homepage ?
20:15.11paxl_oe devs ?
20:15.16[cc]smartopenembedded
20:15.16paxl_yeah
20:15.36[cc]smartleave your bugreport there
20:16.31paxl_oki
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20:16.46RudiRendeerhi
20:17.38RudiRendeerit works @
20:17.47[cc]smartwe didnt expect anything else
20:17.57[cc]smart:)
20:19.38RudiRendeeri chat from my zaurus :-)
20:19.45paxl_coolos :)
20:20.00paxl_I'll reflash mine since he got some bugs :)
20:20.15Biblio_peba completely differnt question - how do you protect your Z screen? there are these expensive protectors, anything cheaper you use?
20:20.49RudiRendeerI am happy
20:21.01Biblio_pebRudi, gratulations1
20:21.19RudiRendeerhm i protect it with the normal cover
20:21.40RudiRendeerand my screen is ok
20:21.55[cc]smartuse real stuff there
20:22.08[cc]smartel cheapo in this place is not recommended
20:22.17Biblio_pebwhat is real? any brand suggestion?
20:22.21[cc]smartjust take care that you are not just ripped for the money
20:23.23RudiRendeermoney no have :-)
20:24.08[cc]smartit should apply well (on good ones e.g. small bubbles, if not so big, will nearly disappear after some time)
20:24.22RudiRendeerok boys and girls will go to bed
20:24.25RudiRendeersee ya
20:24.29[cc]smartthink mine are ok and i leave em on for half year to year
20:24.45[cc]smartn8
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20:25.30[cc]smartrudi is right
20:25.33[cc]smarttime for a nap
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21:20.15paxl_Do somone here know if it is possible to ipkg update on a 64/0 rom on a 5500
21:21.18JustinPof course it is
21:21.27JustinPit may not eb possible on the default install in flash, though
21:21.35JustinPbecause of space issues...
21:21.43JustinPyou can always uninstall something or move root to SD
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21:49.57paxl_JustinP: thank yah.. this explain why it bugged :)
21:50.06paxl_I'll do it after my root on sd.. :)
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