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01:33.16rabiesJustinP: i couldnt find that altroot website
01:33.34JustinPalt*boot*
01:34.24jncalt.w00t
01:34.30rabies:)
01:34.31rabiesthx
01:34.59JustinPhttp://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=12404668
01:37.26rabiesah, got it
01:39.43rabieshey, is the size of the image the size of the new install?
01:39.53rabiescause i wanna give all the space on my 1 gig SD card to altboot
01:40.18JustinPrabies: yes, the size of the image is the size you want to have for your root filesystem
01:40.46ZonE-HaKin9morning guys :)
01:41.16rabiesJustinP: 900 megs :)
01:42.08ZonE-HaKin9hey i might be able to help out i run both my 5500 & 5600 off my 256/1gb sd cards
01:42.22ZonE-HaKin9with altboot
01:42.42rabiesslowly but surely my card is filling
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03:58.28mrnachoI need to format an SD card, so I can use it to install OZ.  I don't have fdisk available to me, any thoughts?
03:58.38JustinPyes, just format it
03:58.44JustinPyou don't need fdisk to just format
03:58.51JustinPfdisk is for partitioning
03:59.03mrnachoI don't need to change the partition type?
03:59.05JustinPor you could download fdisk from the feeds....if you really want it
03:59.37JustinPmrnacho: well...I suppose you should...the mkfs might also change it, not sure
03:59.55mrnachook,i'll give that a shot
04:23.21tanqdoes anyone in here sync with MS outlook
04:23.41tanqi'm looking for a tool that I can do that with for the PIM
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06:03.24rabieshi
06:03.33rabiesim trying to run: root@collie:~/rboot-3.5.3# ipkg install altboot_1.0-r5_collie.ipk
06:03.45rabiesi get this error: ipkg: altboot_1.0-r5_collie.ipk: No such device
06:04.50rabiesis that the wrong command for manually running a ipkg command?
06:04.56JustinPno
06:06.05rabiesthen what am i doing wrong?
06:09.00JustinPrabies: I don't know
06:09.16JustinPrabies: are you sure it's not the postinst that's failing?
06:09.17rabies=\
06:09.20rabiesi followed the guide
06:09.22rabiesi dunno how to check
06:09.52JustinPrabies: I don't know what to tell you....ask CoreDump
06:09.55rabieslet me try upgrading
06:10.02rabiesmaybe some package wasnt installed right
06:10.04JustinPrabies: are you already on SD?
06:10.11rabiesi cant
06:10.14rabiesi need the altroot
06:10.17JustinPah, ok
06:10.22JustinP"good"
06:10.24rabiesheh
06:12.54rabiesi have some truncated files
06:13.05rabieslet me try reinstalling whatever package has libcrypto.so
06:14.10rabieshow do i check what provides a file?
06:14.25rabiesipkg search isnt finding libcrypto
06:14.52JustinPcd /usr/lib/ipkg/info
06:15.00JustinPgrep libcrypto *.list
06:16.31rabiesthanks
06:17.17rabieswtf is up with this device thing
06:17.27rabiesoo, i think its working
06:17.36rabiesmusta been a bad d/l
06:19.35rabiesgood ol' ssh
06:19.35rabiesso much easier than looking at the tiny screen, heh
06:21.21rabiesand yet altboot doesnt work
06:21.22rabies*sigh*
06:21.47rabiesjoy
06:22.31rabiesi guess ill go through the process again
06:22.40JustinPdoesn't work how?
06:22.45JustinPdidn't install?
06:23.28rabiesaltboot bombed on reboot
06:23.35rabiessaid it couldnt use the sd card
06:23.44JustinPwhy not? what was the error?
06:23.54rabiesuh, let me bring it up
06:23.54rabiesone sec
06:24.09JustinPdid your format your SD card and copy the filesystem to it?
06:24.21JustinPor an image file on the SD card?
06:24.24rabiesi followed the online guide
06:25.28JustinPheh, which one?
06:25.36rabieshttp://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openzaurus.user/12944
06:26.02rabiescant find /etc/altboot-menu/15-bootSD i guess
06:26.18JustinPyou sure?
06:26.21rabieslet me try again
06:26.26JustinPdid it have an SD card option when you booted?
06:26.38rabiesi think i interrupted the sequence cause altboot wouldnt install
06:26.41rabiesand yes, there was
06:26.52JustinPok, if there's an option then the menu item was installed
06:27.00JustinPwhat error do youget when you choose it?
06:27.06rabiessec
06:28.19rabiestoo much to type, heh
06:28.30JustinPwell that happens?
06:28.37JustinPdoes it say "can't find /sbin/init"
06:28.44JustinP"can't find /boot-images"
06:28.45rabiesit refuses to boot and drops to the altboot shell
06:28.52JustinPok I understand that
06:28.53rabiesits having issues mounting my SD card
06:28.58JustinP*why* does it drop to shell?
06:28.59JustinPok
06:29.04rabiesopie does too
06:29.04JustinPcan't find the device?
06:29.12JustinPrabies: I see
06:29.14rabiesi end up having to take the SD card out and put it back in
06:29.20rabiesfor opie that is
06:29.23JustinPrabies: did you "repartition" your card?
06:29.30rabiesi dunno why, but it wont mount right at first
06:29.32rabiesyes, its ext2
06:29.36JustinPrabies: what device did you format?
06:29.45JustinPrabies: /dev/mmcda or /dev/mmcda1?
06:29.50rabies/dev/mmcda1
06:29.59JustinPok
06:30.13JustinPone sec
06:30.21rabiesmounted right this time
06:30.25rabiesshould i try the guide again?
06:30.27JustinP......
06:30.31rabiesheh
06:30.40rabiesmounted right using the regular boot
06:30.44rabiesnot the SD boot
06:30.49JustinP....?
06:30.52rabies...
06:31.01rabiesi have the option to do regular boot or SD boot
06:31.05JustinPdoing a normal boot shouldn't mount the SD card
06:31.06rabiesregular boot works, SD boot does not
06:31.09rabiesit does
06:31.10JustinPah, ok
06:31.12JustinPdamn it
06:31.18JustinPwhat was the error when you tried SD?
06:31.18rabies?
06:31.23rabiesarg
06:31.25rabiesgive me asec
06:31.37JustinPcan't help you if you don't look for the error
06:31.43rabiesdude, its a mess
06:31.48rabiesand i have no urge to copy it all
06:31.53rabiesits like 10 lines
06:31.57JustinPrabies: there has to be *some* core error...
06:32.01rabieslet me look
06:32.13JustinP/bin/mount ,,,,, failed?
06:32.16rabiesone sec
06:32.24rabiesbut yes, thats the gist of it
06:32.59JustinPok, well what does that line exactly say?
06:33.03rabies...
06:33.32JustinPtype it in for me
06:34.14rabiesNote: No INIT [/sbin/init.sysvinit] found on target
06:34.21rabiesUsing [opie-rootfs.bin]
06:34.43rabiesSetting up lookback (/dev/loop0) for opie-rootfs.bin
06:34.53rabies*** Booting rootfs image ***
06:34.55JustinPok, so it mounted just fine
06:35.04rabies/etc/altboot-menu/15-bootSD:294: =: not found
06:35.06JustinPfoudnd the image
06:35.12rabiesCan't find /media/image in /etc/fstab
06:35.15JustinPthat's the line
06:35.21rabiesERROR: mount /dev/loop0 /media/image failed!
06:35.30rabies/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
06:35.34JustinPstop
06:35.37rabiesk
06:35.40rabiesbut yeah, thats it
06:36.14JustinPargh....
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06:37.22rabiesbrownout
06:37.28rabies=\
06:37.38rabieswell at least the pda has batteries, lol
06:38.07rabiesJustinP: you still there?
06:38.21JustinPyes
06:38.23rabiesk
06:38.25rabiesany ideas?
06:38.36JustinPaha
06:38.41JustinPhow new is this altboot?
06:38.46rabiesbrand new
06:38.51JustinPok
06:38.52rabiesjust d/led from the website
06:39.00JustinPwhere are you now (on your Z)?
06:39.07JustinPaltboot-shell?
06:39.08rabiesstill at the prompt
06:39.09rabiesyea
06:39.10JustinPok
06:39.15JustinPmount -oremount.rw /
06:39.18JustinPcd /etc
06:39.21JustinPvi altboot.func
06:39.44JustinP<PROTECTED>
06:39.47rabieswait
06:39.48JustinP<ret>
06:39.54rabiesthe mount -oremount.rw failed
06:39.57JustinPremount,rw
06:40.01JustinP(sorry)
06:40.32rabiesthat wokred
06:40.33rabiesworked
06:41.28JustinPok
06:41.41JustinPdid you find IMAGE_TYPE = in your altboot.func?
06:42.08rabieswtf
06:42.12JustinP?
06:42.16rabiesi have something like a FN lock on
06:42.18rabiesi dunno why
06:42.23JustinPShift-Fn?
06:42.30JustinPShift-Ctrl-Fn?
06:42.36rabiesah, rtight
06:42.38rabiesthat did it
06:42.41JustinPI used ot have that happen on my 5500
06:42.45JustinP;-)
06:42.53rabies:)
06:43.10rabiesdoesnt find anythiong
06:43.14JustinPok...
06:43.17JustinPlooke for IMAGE_TYPE
06:44.05rabiesokay
06:44.07rabiesi think i found ut
06:44.07rabiesit
06:44.10JustinPok
06:44.10rabiesi hate VI...
06:44.29rabiesokay?
06:44.52JustinPyou want to find the line that says IMAGE_TYPE = "auto"
06:45.08rabiesits an "if" statement
06:45.12rabiesbut yeah, its there
06:45.13JustinPnope, next one
06:45.16JustinPok
06:45.24rabieswell its in one, heh
06:45.25JustinPthat should be IMAGE_TYPE="auto"
06:45.29rabiesya
06:45.54JustinPdidyou change it?
06:47.48JustinPrabies: ?
06:48.08JustinPrabies: thanks for bringing this to my attention, BTW, that line is my fault ;-)
06:49.32rabiesdo i change it?
06:49.39rabiesoh, heh
06:49.41rabiesnp :)
06:49.55rabiesyou wrote altboot?
06:49.59rabiesor just work on it?
06:50.25JustinPI added a bunch of stuff, like the IMAGE_TYPE and check_fs function
06:50.30rabieso
06:50.34JustinPCoreDump (matt henges) wrote it
06:50.40JustinPhentges
06:50.41rabiesah, ok
06:50.52JustinPso did you fix it?
06:50.55rabieshow?
06:51.02JustinPno spaces around the =
06:51.02rabiesohhh, no space
06:51.03rabiessec
06:51.07JustinPyeah
06:51.13JustinPshell scripting...yay...
06:51.16rabieslol
06:51.20rabieswhich do i use to delete in vi?
06:51.22JustinPmakes sense in a strange kind of way
06:51.24JustinPx
06:51.45rabiesand what saves?
06:52.10rabiesdoh
06:52.12rabiesi deleted a tab
06:52.15rabiesany way to get it back?
06:52.19rabiesif you cant tell i dont use vi much +P
06:52.23JustinPummm..retype it?
06:52.46rabieshow do i save and quit?
06:52.47JustinPor you can quit and re-edit
06:52.57JustinPEsc (Cancel) ZZ
06:52.59rabiesi went into insert mode and put it in
06:53.06rabieswheres esc on this keyboard...
06:53.12JustinPCancel
06:53.25JustinPCancel=Esc
06:53.28rabiescool
06:53.38rabiesnow what?
06:53.50rabiesall modified and such
06:54.06JustinPsync
06:54.17rabiessynced
06:54.23JustinPumount /media/card
06:54.42rabiesresource busy
06:54.55JustinPeh...
06:55.06JustinPwell, power off and power back on and try the SD option again
06:55.46rabiessame error...
06:56.53JustinP*really*?
06:57.08JustinPare you sure you removed the spaces on both sides of the =?
06:57.12rabiesyup...
06:57.24rabies=auto: not found
06:57.26rabiesthats the only thing that changed
06:57.35JustinPone sec
06:57.51rabies/etc/altboot-menu/15-bootSD: 294: =auto: not found
06:58.06JustinPone sec
06:58.09rabiesk
06:59.14JustinPok, do the same thigns as before
06:59.17rabiesum ok
06:59.31JustinPbut delete the $ at the beginning of the $IMAGE_TYPE="auto" line
07:01.02rabiesk
07:01.04rabiessaved and rebooting
07:01.31rabiesnow it cant find /bin/busybox
07:01.47rabiesno prompt yet
07:01.52rabieslets see if it freezes or goes on
07:02.53rabiesfroze
07:03.00JustinPwhat is output just before/after "can't finr /bin/busybox"?
07:03.28rabiespivoting root.../etc/altboot-menu/15-bootSD: 294: echo: not found
07:03.44rabiesright before
07:05.23rabiesright after:
07:05.23rabies/etc/altboot-menu/15-bootSD: 294: /bin/busybox: not found
07:05.23rabies/etc/altboot-menu/15-bootSD: 294: cannot create /dev/null: Directory nonexistant
07:05.23rabies/etc/altboot-menu/15-bootSD: 294: echo: not found
07:05.23JustinPgrrr
07:05.23rabies/etc/altboot-menu/15-bootSD: 294: cannot create /dev/tty0: Directory nonexistent
07:05.28JustinPthat's ok
07:05.45JustinPecho not found.....
07:06.05rabiesyup...
07:06.36JustinPok...did you copy your root filesystem to your SD card's image?
07:06.56rabiesi followed the guide, if it did that, then yes
07:07.19rabiesi just read, lol
07:08.50JustinPwell...
07:10.06JustinPhmmm
07:10.16rabieswell im gonna sleep on it...
07:10.26rabiesif you any any ideas im gonna leave xchat open, feel free to post them and ill try it
07:10.28JustinPreboot again and go to normal and then you can chekc the image
07:10.33rabiesthanks for the help
07:10.36JustinPoh...well you can ask again tomorrow then
07:10.37JustinPyeah
07:10.40JustinPhope you get it working
07:10.44rabiesme too, heh
07:10.47JustinPask CoreDump if he's around
07:10.59rabieshopefully he will be
07:11.11rabiesthis SD card isnt bad, i mean it formatted okay and all that
07:11.12JustinPsounds like your pivot_root didn't work right
07:11.17rabiesyeah...
07:12.54rabieswell night
07:13.03JustinPnight
07:32.07ljpburp
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09:04.24JustinPwhy not?
09:38.26xaeuni should use :wq to save and exit right?
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09:41.16JustinPyes
09:44.03xaeunit doesnt do anything
09:52.08JustinPis your filesystem mounted read-only perhaps?
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10:31.44ZonE-HaKin9|AFKhey rabies can i help?
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11:35.38tanqhrmm
11:38.05CoreDump|homehi
11:38.37tanqhey
11:38.55tanqCoreDump|home: do you sync w/ outlook at all
11:39.04CoreDump|homerabies: "/etc/altboot-menu/15-bootSD: 294: echo: not found" = your rootfs is f*cked
11:39.09CoreDump|homeme? nope
11:39.57tanqdo you knoww if there is an app avail for oz that will let you sync w/ outlook
11:41.05CoreDump|homeno idea, sorry.
11:41.08tanqi mighr flash back to the sharp rom since i need it... umless i install the sharp rom on another sd
11:41.25CoreDump|homewon't work. Sharp ROM depends on a different kernel
11:41.52tanqcan you use intellisync w/ oz?
11:46.53ZonE-HaKin9hey coredump :)
11:47.01CoreDump|homehey
11:47.13ZonE-HaKin9did those binarys get there?
11:47.15ZonE-HaKin9this time?
11:50.13CoreDump|homeZonE-HaKin9: nope. Actually, I didn't recieve any mails from you since wednesday
11:50.43ZonE-HaKin9ok i will try now
11:52.13ZonE-HaKin9ok done sending now
11:54.11CoreDump|homenothing yet
11:55.01ZonE-HaKin9try now
11:55.09ZonE-HaKin9or try your junk box ;)
11:56.58CoreDump|home<PROTECTED>
11:58.06ZonE-HaKin9damn i need to find out hehe brb
12:05.35CoreDump|homeZonE-HaKin9: very funny, did you really think I'd run that on my box? Binaries which I assumed were for the Z? Do me a favour, keep the exploits to yourself. This discussion is over.
12:06.58ZonE-HaKin9d00d look they r under a dir called warning
12:07.11ZonE-HaKin9i fogot to rm them
12:07.23ZonE-HaKin9they are part of my pentesting kit i am deving
12:08.32tanqyay coffee
12:10.12ZonE-HaKin9and lots of explaining for me :P
12:10.20ZonE-HaKin9:|
12:10.39tanqomg hax
12:13.44ZonE-HaKin9well someone need to ;)
12:16.14ZonE-HaKin9yo coredump u there
12:16.39tanq<PROTECTED>
12:16.39tanq<PROTECTED>
12:17.22ZonE-HaKin9yeah but i didn't mean for them to be in there
12:18.30ZonE-HaKin9hey all i was trying to do was help out here, not outcasted
12:19.17ZonE-HaKin9like i was be... hi i'm a hacker here's sum kool progs i want u to use how stupid.
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12:31.21ZonE-HaKin9andd just for the record i do this studff for a living so i am sorry i fogot to rm thed offinding files i should know better... but i could do much worse if i wanted too
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12:35.07CoreDump|homewhat kind of job requires you to have working xploits available? I'd understand having _test_ apps for these exploits, not the real thing itself. Pentesting does have it uses. No need to use any dangerous (to others) stuff. You are welcome to read openembedded.org. It makes crosscompiling a _lot_ easier. Might want to add the missing stuff. Some apps are already in there
12:35.27CoreDump|homeothers are not
12:37.31ZonE-HaKin9ok...
12:38.01ZonE-HaKin9i research heeps of pentest stuff that includes exploits/malware and u guessed it hacking
12:38.21ZonE-HaKin9i work in the gov here and can;t risk anything
12:38.22ZonE-HaKin9too
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12:38.59ZonE-HaKin9i'm even going to help out apple to fix his site as he was hackedd
12:39.11ZonE-HaKin9hehe love the exit comment
12:39.30CoreDump|home:)
12:40.11ZonE-HaKin9i'm not a black hat guys i'm what they call a white hat only the good sidde stuff
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12:56.48phragmenthi... anyone know the name of the oz app that displays wifi quality/signal strength in taskbar ?
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13:00.20tanqyou mean the wireless monitor
13:00.37phragmentah yes
13:04.16phragmentdoesn't look like it has a taskbar applet
13:05.40CoreDump|homethere was opie-wirelessapplet in the past. Might have been removed from the feeds though, not sure
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13:21.59phragmenti saw one mentioned the otherday
13:22.14phragmentguess ill trawl once more for it... thanks
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13:57.33xaeunhey CoreDump| home thanks sooo much
13:58.06CoreDump|homexaeun: you're welcome :)
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14:41.42DrAppleJustinP: prepare for battle!
14:41.51DrApple:P
14:45.47paxlHey.. how do I make to install opera in Oz 3.5.3 ?
14:46.05jncnot sure
14:46.52paxlSince I can't install konqueror...
14:46.57paxl[ the feed is broken ]
14:47.12paxlERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for konqueror-embedded:  
14:47.13paxl<PROTECTED>
14:47.23paxland I have the stable version of libqt2
14:47.50jncuh
14:47.57jnclibqt != libqte
14:48.07jncyou could go in and hack that dep
14:48.25paxlhow ?? what are ipk package..
14:48.33jncjust modify the dependency info on the cache file
14:48.40jnci forget where
14:48.48jncit should be something like /var/lib/ipkg/...
14:49.23jncalternatively, add the upgrades feed, i think
14:52.18paxloki
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14:54.01paxljnc: event adding the upgrade feed don't help
14:56.58paxlthanks jnc I hacked the dependency and now will maybe works
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15:06.15jncpaxl: i hope so too :)
15:07.02paxlhehe
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16:28.23steakumI am having problems booting my zaurus after I updated it yesterday, can anyone help me?
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16:40.08steakumok guys, I am getting this error: when I touch the power button, I see request_moduleusbd03: waitpid(315,...) failed, errorno 512
16:40.13steakumwhat does it mean?
16:48.35steakumwhen this happens, none of the buttons or anything works.
16:48.39steakumhave to hard reset
16:48.54steakumis there like a live disk to just format all of the RAM
16:48.55steakum?
16:49.11steakumI let the zaurus sit for 24 hrs, nothing changed
16:49.30CoreDump|homewell, flash an OZ image to restore the flash
16:49.38steakumit doesnt work!
16:49.49steakumI followed the directions exactly
16:49.53steakumbut it doesnt flash
16:49.58CoreDump|homewhich Z?
16:49.58steakumit just stays the same
16:50.03steakumsl-5500
16:50.21CoreDump|homedo the two LEDs light up (and not blink) during the flashing
16:50.24steakumyes
16:50.29steakumfor like 2 minutes
16:50.37CoreDump|homesounds about right
16:50.40steakummaybe 60 seconds even
16:50.43steakumI dont know
16:50.53CoreDump|homenah, should take longer than that
16:50.58steakumit doesnt drain the battery like a normal flash though
16:51.06CoreDump|homeis your initrd.bin named correctly?
16:51.25CoreDump|homenever flash w/ battery alone
16:51.59steakumyes, it is
16:52.01steakumI do not
16:52.12steakumI follow the directions exactly
16:52.27steakumexcept, can the CF card be FAT16 instead of VFAT?
16:52.57steakumtakes 1 minutes 15 seconds
16:53.01steakumI just timed it
16:53.15rabiesZonE-HaKin9: you here?
16:53.48rabiesCoreDump|home: or are you here?
16:54.00CoreDump|homeyep
16:54.05rabiescool
16:54.15rabiescan you take a look at this readme and tell me if any steps are wrong/missing?
16:54.20rabieshttp://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openzaurus.user/12944
16:54.27rabiesi followed it and ended up w/ a corrupt rootfs
16:54.51CoreDump|homerabies: will do in a few minutes
16:54.53rabiesthanks
16:55.12CoreDump|homesteakum: please verify the md5sum of initrd.bin
16:55.23steakumok
16:55.28CoreDump|homeit should be in the OZ d/l directory
16:55.47CoreDump|homethen make sure than Windows is displaying file extensions
16:56.00CoreDump|homeand that the extension is indeed ".bin"
16:56.20CoreDump|homeoh, FWIW, formatting your CF card with FAT16 doesn't hurt either
16:57.05CoreDump|homerabies: whats the problem you are seeing? any error-messages?
16:57.59CoreDump|homerabies: the readme _looks_ allright
16:58.22rabiesCoreDump|home: i had the echo not there error last night
16:58.39rabiesCoreDump|home: if it looks okay im gonna start over and try again, maybe i mistyped something
16:59.09CoreDump|homethe theory of operation is dead simple
16:59.24CoreDump|home- create an empty file w/ dd with the desired size
16:59.37CoreDump|home- loop-mount it and mkfs.ext2 -m0 it
16:59.48steakumCoreDump: THe md5 checks out
16:59.50CoreDump|home(the /dev/loopX device of course)
17:00.19CoreDump|homesteakum: is this the official OZ image?
17:00.39CoreDump|home- then copy the rootfs from flash to the image file
17:00.50steakumyes
17:01.24CoreDump|homehmmm
17:01.38steakumI usedm opie-image-collie-20050407173817.rootfs.jffs2
17:01.42rabiesuh, does busybox not support ext3?
17:02.00steakumand zImage-collie-64-0-20050407102515.bin
17:02.00CoreDump|homerabies: you don't want a journaling FS on a CF or SD card
17:02.03rabiesk
17:02.15CoreDump|homesteakum: yep, the files are correct
17:02.19steakumargh!
17:02.24CoreDump|homeremove zImage and flash again
17:02.30rabiesoh yeah, btw, my mkfs.ext2 doesnt work on collie
17:02.36rabiesso im using a reader and formatting on my comp
17:02.41steakumso just have the initrd.bin file on the card..and flash?
17:02.43CoreDump|homerabies: hah
17:02.46rabies:)
17:02.51CoreDump|homeShdwdrgn: correct
17:02.57steakumwhat?
17:02.58CoreDump|homesteakum: correct
17:02.59steakum:)
17:03.02CoreDump|home;)
17:03.15CoreDump|homerabies: that's probably your problem
17:03.20rabiesCoreDump|home: what is?
17:03.24CoreDump|homerabies: mkfs.ext2 is supposed to work
17:03.30rabiesCoreDump|home: okay, then is there a way for me to back up all my data and reflash?
17:03.34CoreDump|homemaybe your SD card acts funny?
17:03.45rabiesCoreDump|home: i think its cause of an update i did
17:03.57rabiesCoreDump|home: i updated but didnt have enough storage and it truncated a bunch of files and screwed them up
17:03.58CoreDump|homerabies: uhh, backup? hmm
17:04.05CoreDump|homeouch
17:04.07rabiesCoreDump|home: have been having problems ever since
17:04.12CoreDump|homerighto
17:04.22CoreDump|hometime to reflash then
17:04.22rabiesplus i wanna switch to 64-0 :)
17:04.26rabiesyup, but i wanna backup
17:04.36rabieswhere is the user data stored and how would i restore it?
17:04.43CoreDump|home~
17:04.49CoreDump|home/home/root
17:04.49rabiesso its just all in ~?
17:04.52CoreDump|homeyep
17:04.58rabiesso if i backup ~ and restore it it will all be the same?
17:05.03CoreDump|homecopy ~ and you are set
17:05.08rabiescool
17:05.14CoreDump|homewell, networksettings and stuff are in /etc
17:05.32rabiesmeh, im more concerned about my calendar and datebook
17:05.42rabiesthose are in ~ right?
17:05.43CoreDump|homerabies: they are in ~ :)
17:05.52rabiesgood stuff
17:06.14CoreDump|homeare you running a hentges image?
17:06.20rabiesno, should i?
17:06.28CoreDump|homenahh, just checking
17:06.38rabiesrunning 3.5.3
17:06.49steakumCoreDump|home: same problem
17:07.00CoreDump|homeit has a script to backup networksettings, SSH keys and stuff
17:07.03steakumI flashed and it still will not load
17:07.18rabiesi got a kingston elite pro card, it didnt look too bad and was cheaper than the panasonic one by about 1/3
17:07.24CoreDump|homehow long did the LEDs light up?
17:07.27rabiesno way was i paying 300 bucks o-O
17:07.31steakumabout the same
17:07.47CoreDump|homesteakum: time to format the CF
17:07.52steakumok
17:08.06CoreDump|homemkfs.vat -F16 IIRC
17:08.14steakumI am doing it in windows...  format E: /FS:FAT
17:08.37rabiesinput/output error...
17:08.56CoreDump|homehmm
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17:09.27steakumdoes it matter that I did it in windows CoreDUmp|home ?
17:09.35rabiesah, now it works
17:09.36CoreDump|homerabies: what z are you using again?
17:09.41rabiesits a flakey card i guess...
17:09.44rabies3.5.3
17:09.56CoreDump|homesteakum: i dunno, never used windows for that :)
17:10.02steakum*Sigh*
17:10.25rabieswtf?!?!
17:10.30rabiesarg
17:10.39rabiesnow my computer wont read the SD card
17:10.45CoreDump|homeahem
17:10.54CoreDump|homeb0rked FS?
17:11.30rabiessomething is
17:13.06paxleuh.. Am I fool or I'm having a with dot that is moving over the screen but under the touch screen :S
17:13.21paxlwhen the front light is open
17:14.13CoreDump|homeheh moving? :)
17:15.35steakumCoreDump: I am still having the same problem
17:16.03steakumsteakum The errors are as follows
17:16.03steakumsteakum monitor_request: 23 44
17:16.03steakumsteakum Monitor request_irq failed -16
17:16.03steakumsteakum usbdm: request irq failed
17:16.03steakumsteakum monitor connected: 1
17:16.04steakumsteakum monitor load
17:16.21steakummonitor_hotplug: agent: usbd interface: monitor action: load
17:16.23steakumand it hangs
17:16.34CoreDump|homesteakum: ok, we try something else
17:17.10CoreDump|homegrab a collie initrd.bin and kernel from here http://www.hentges.net/misc/openzaurus/oz3.5.3-opie1.2.0.shtml
17:17.29paxleuh.. waht is freak is taht this is still moving when the zaurus is shutdown :S
17:17.36CoreDump|homenote: initrd.bin must be extracted
17:18.13CoreDump|homeflash and tell me what you see
17:19.01steakumok
17:23.51steakumCoreDump: Same
17:23.58CoreDump|homeno way
17:24.14steakumdo you think it might be a hardware problem?
17:24.34steakumI mean, I just updated the software!
17:24.48CoreDump|homemight be, but just 1 minute is not long enough to flash an image
17:24.57steakumyeah
17:25.07CoreDump|homedo you own another CF card?
17:25.25steakumit is too small
17:25.31steakumthe card I have now is 128MB
17:25.39steakumI have another, but it is an 8MB
17:25.41CoreDump|homeand the other?
17:25.46CoreDump|homeouch
17:26.03steakumdarn
17:26.36steakumoh well
17:27.46steakumwell, thanks for you help CoreDump
17:27.53steakumI think I am going to take a break
17:28.03CoreDump|homesteakum: np
17:28.05steakummaybe I can get it flashed over at a friends house
17:28.21CoreDump|homeyeah, get another CF
17:28.23steakumok
17:33.14rabiesCoreDump|home: heh, corrupted partition table
17:33.44CoreDump|home:\
17:34.59rabieson my SD card
17:35.02rabiesi just redid it
17:36.18rabiesgah
17:36.23rabiesi think my install is just totally borked
17:36.27rabiesi dunno how to get my settings off
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17:37.56rabiesi cant write to the card using my collie
17:38.58CoreDump|homesounds bad
17:39.01rabiessyncing doesnt work
17:39.09offroadgeekhi all
17:39.10rabiesi hope i dont have to manually copy it all over >_<
17:39.17CoreDump|homeis your network still functional?
17:39.19rabiesya
17:39.20rabiesit is
17:39.21CoreDump|homehi offroadgeek
17:39.39offroadgeekhi coredump, how's everything?
17:39.41CoreDump|homewell, scp -R the folder to your desktop
17:39.54CoreDump|homeoffroadgeek: very well, thanks :)
17:40.07CoreDump|homes/-R/-r/
17:40.08rabies/usr/bin/dbclient: connection to adam@192.168.129.2:22 exited: No auth methods could be used.
17:40.19rabiesafk for a bit, ill try again later =\
17:40.28CoreDump|homelater rabies
17:42.18CoreDump|homeoffroadgeek: did you manage to solve your gaim probs?
17:42.44offroadgeekno... I've seen it before in other iterations of oz/opie too
17:43.59offroadgeekis there a way to easily swap the ,/ key so it's /, ?
17:45.34CoreDump|homeumm, yeah
17:45.45CoreDump|homevi /etc/keymap*something
17:45.50CoreDump|homeok, not so easy
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17:52.35offroadgeekthanks, that was plenty easy!
17:53.46CoreDump|home:)
17:54.26CoreDump|homeI think "/" shouldn't be on "shift". How is it configured in Sharp ROM?
17:55.16offroadgeekthe stock sharp rom has it on the shift, but cacko and pdaxrom's swap it
17:55.33offroadgeekI've just gotten used to having / without the shift
17:56.44offroadgeekI asked mickeyl once about it, and he said that it's left the way it's printed on the keyboard to avoid confusion for users... but I think usability is more important
17:57.20CoreDump|homedito
17:57.48CoreDump|homethat's the one thing I like about US keyboards, the "/" key is where it belongs to be heh
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17:59.50rabiesCoreDump|home: is there any way to do a ssh2 connection with dropbear's scp?
18:00.30CoreDump|homei would damn well hope so (i'm not a fan of dropbear btw)
18:00.58CoreDump|homerabies: it requires you to set a root password btw
18:01.09rabiesneither am i, but no room for openssh
18:01.12rabiesi have a root password
18:01.47CoreDump|homeit still doesn't work?
18:02.00rabiesi can ssh in
18:02.03CoreDump|hometried the other way around? scp fro desktop?
18:02.40rabiessec
18:03.00CoreDump|homewhee
18:03.06CoreDump|homelooks like my SD card died as well
18:03.09rabies=\
18:03.11rabieswhat brand?
18:03.18CoreDump|homeSanDisk 256MB
18:03.22rabiessandisk?!?!
18:03.30CoreDump|homeworked perfectly fine so far
18:03.31rabiesugh
18:03.35CoreDump|home>2 years old
18:03.40rabiesreally? not bad
18:03.54offroadgeekcoredump: do you need another card?
18:04.10rabieswoo!
18:04.14CoreDump|homeI'm about to find out :)
18:04.15rabiesbackup complete
18:04.21CoreDump|homerabies: _D
18:04.23CoreDump|home:D
18:04.26rabies=D
18:04.30rabiestime to reflash
18:07.46rabiesCoreDump|home: what image should i flash with?
18:08.10CoreDump|hometwo choices for collie
18:08.26CoreDump|homea) get OZ 3.5.3 image and upgrade all kernel modules and the kernel to r21
18:08.52CoreDump|homeb) install a hentges ROM but it sortof requires a permanent SD card
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18:09.44pebhi folks
18:10.06CoreDump|homehi peb
18:10.59rabiesCoreDump|home: this is a sort of permanent SD card
18:11.03rabiesCoreDump|home: i got it just for the PDA
18:11.14rabiesCoreDump|home: that what you mean?
18:11.16CoreDump|homeand you seldom eject it?
18:11.19CoreDump|homeyeah
18:11.23rabiesif i have to, never will...
18:11.28CoreDump|home:)
18:11.28rabieser, if i can
18:11.33rabies:)
18:11.39rabiesi want it to act like a hard drive, heh
18:11.46CoreDump|homehttp://www.hentges.net/misc/openzaurus/oz3.5.3-opie1.2.0.shtml
18:11.48rabiesi already have a key
18:11.50rabieser, a usb key
18:12.16CoreDump|homeplease read http://www.hentges.net/misc/openzaurus/docs/cardfs_howto.shtml before installing
18:12.35CoreDump|homeon the upside it ships w/ openssh and the fixed kernel ;)
18:13.26rabieswoo!
18:13.26rabieslol
18:13.26rabiesi feel like im just repeating myself over and over
18:13.26rabiesanyway all good stuff :)
18:13.26offroadgeekcoredump|home: did you say you need a new SD card?
18:13.26rabiesoffroadgeek: ill take another ;)
18:13.40CoreDump|homeyeah, looks like it
18:14.13CoreDump|homebut no problem :)
18:14.18offroadgeekcoredump|home: I'll send you a 1gb panasonic on monday
18:14.36CoreDump|homeoffroadgeek: thanks but you have done more than enough already :)
18:14.54offroadgeeki don't mind, really
18:15.28CoreDump|homethen I say thanks :D
18:15.51offroadgeeklet's hope your neighbor doesn't take it :)
18:15.58CoreDump|homehah
18:16.01CoreDump|homeno way
18:16.04CoreDump|homeI moved
18:16.18offroadgeekoh yeah... I forgot... you like the new place?
18:16.38CoreDump|homeyeah, it's nice here
18:16.43rabieswhere are you?
18:16.52CoreDump|homegermany and you?
18:17.09pebcoredump, where in Germany (I'm close to munic)
18:17.14CoreDump|homecologne
18:17.27rabiesnorthern california in the US
18:17.45offroadgeekrabies: what part...  I just moved from SF
18:18.08rabiesabout 2 hours north, santa rosa
18:18.16rabieswell, 2 hours w/ normal traffic :)
18:18.30offroadgeekyeah... i know where that is... one of my brothers used to live there
18:18.33rabiesim going to be in san luis obispo in a month though
18:19.06offroadgeekmoving to slo for work?
18:19.10rabiescollege :0
18:19.15rabiesso kinda work
18:19.18CoreDump|home:)
18:19.34offroadgeekgotcha.. you're a young one
18:19.36rabiescept more fun :)
18:19.39rabieslol, yes
18:20.39offroadgeekbastard children and their youth!!!
18:20.51rabies=D
18:21.23rabiesCoreDump|home: no zImage at the hentges site
18:21.48CoreDump|homeMatching Kernel  2.4.18 embedix-r21
18:21.52rabiesCoreDump|home: er, hentges
18:22.00CoreDump|homehttp://oz.hentges.net/releases/3.5.3/T3/collie/kernels/
18:22.02rabiesah
18:23.45rabiesflashing time
18:25.20rabiesso that kernel fixes the whole issue with suspend?
18:26.41CoreDump|homeyep
18:27.15CoreDump|homethe guy who did the fix is a damn genious
18:27.29CoreDump|hometook him, like what? an hour? heh
18:27.45rabiesfast
18:28.18rabieshey, what do i boot from w/ altboot?
18:28.33CoreDump|home1) Normal boot
18:28.36rabiesk
18:30.04rabiesum...it wouldnt fsck mmcda1 =\
18:30.21CoreDump|home:(
18:30.28rabiesi wonder if my SD card is just bad and i should return it as a DOA
18:30.30CoreDump|homeso your card apears to be screwed, too
18:30.38rabiesthat or the reader
18:30.45rabiescause my little usb reader works w/ it fine
18:30.53rabieseven under linux...
18:31.29CoreDump|homemaybe you've gottone one of those "I Hate Zaurii" SD cards
18:32.04rabiesthe osef forums had a few users who had working cards
18:32.57pebOut of curiousity and because I need to buy one: is there a list of SD Cards that are known to work (or not to work) with the Zauri?
18:33.03CoreDump|homeaccording to oesf and ZUG my SanDisk256MB card was the _worst_ card you could buy. I found that rather amusing as mine worked perfectly fine
18:33.12rabiesheh
18:33.36CoreDump|homepeb: check oesf.org's Forum
18:33.41rabiesi think it was just a glitch, let me try reflashing
18:33.47rabiesif not im definitely sending in the card as a DOA
18:33.58rabiesgood ol' newegg and their DOA policy :)
18:36.56paxleuh.. can I ask you some dev question..
18:37.03paxlwhen I shutdown -h now..
18:37.15paxlor say shutdown.. do the zaurus make init 0
18:37.42CoreDump|homeI'd think so
18:38.43rabiesinput output error
18:39.19paxloki.. this is to create a boot script to shutdown correctly the SD card on a root on SD
18:39.35CoreDump|homeah tricky
18:39.39CoreDump|homepivot_root?
18:39.43paxlyeah
18:39.53paxlCoreDump|home: do you have a methode..
18:40.06paxlsince if I don't shutdown it coreclty it let error in the FS
18:40.09CoreDump|homeyou'd need to pivot_root back to the original rootfs if that is possible
18:42.09paxlCoreDump|home: how can I do this.. :S [ since when I close the zaurus.. there is chance that it wont restart causing a fs error ]
18:42.42CoreDump|homepaxl: I never tried that
18:42.57paxloki
18:44.20rabiesoh well...
18:46.10paxl/dev/loop0 on /media/realroot type jffs2 (ro)
18:46.20paxlthe REAL root is already mounted...
18:56.27CoreDump|homea loop on realroot? that's rboot, right?
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18:56.34TaZ|hello
18:56.34TaZ|Is it possible to install some ipk file designed for OpenZaurus on SharpROM ?
18:56.46paxlyeah that rboot CoreDump|home
18:56.50CoreDump|homeTaZ|: they won't work
18:57.08TaZ|shit :/
18:57.11TaZ|ok CoreDump|home
18:57.15TaZ|:-(
18:57.33TaZ|in fact I would like to install GpsDrive on SharpROM....How can I do it please?
18:57.50TaZ|ok ^^
18:57.52paxlCoreDump|home: on an other note.. can I use the feed from the ZaurusUserGroup for my 5500 ?
18:58.14CoreDump|homedunno, never looked at that feed
18:58.24CoreDump|homemust be compiled for OZ3.5.x
18:58.29CoreDump|homethen it should work
18:58.52CoreDump|homeok, ipkg-configure over NFS-root takes forever
18:59.07TaZ|so, which OS works with ipk file for openzaurus (execpt familiar) please?
18:59.31paxlCoreDump|home: is there a feed that you know that have gimp compiled for ?
18:59.44CoreDump|homeTaZ|: OpenZaurus of course
18:59.53CoreDump|homeum, nope
19:00.16TaZ|lol
19:00.17CoreDump|homeGIMP on a Z? :)
19:00.18TaZ|ok
19:00.19TaZ|=)
19:00.28CoreDump|homeTaZ|: ;)
19:00.31TaZ|CoreDump|home gimp on Z works with pdaXrom
19:00.32TaZ|=)
19:00.52TaZ|I tryed it
19:00.57TaZ|it was funny :)
19:01.17CoreDump|homeTaZ|: if it compiles, gimp 2.3.3 will show up in the OZ 3.5.4 feeds
19:01.25paxlhehe :)
19:01.47paxlAlso, is there a Nes emulator i Can use..
19:01.59paxl[ since there is none in the Oz Feed ]
19:02.06CoreDump|homeyep, snesx or something like that
19:02.40CoreDump|home~lart locale-base-de-de
19:03.08paxlnot a SNES emulator.. a Nes [ the nintendo not the super nintendo
19:04.05rabiesCoreDump|home: how did you zero out your SD card?
19:04.22TaZ|hophophop :)
19:04.30paxlrabies: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdcard :)
19:04.31TaZ|CoreDump|home you tell, 3.5.4!!
19:04.33CoreDump|homedd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/$SD-DEV
19:04.34TaZ|where? :)
19:04.38rabiespaxl: thanks
19:05.06CoreDump|homeTaZ|: it should be ready in a few weeks
19:05.08rabieser, tyhanks
19:05.14TaZ|ho yes
19:05.17rabies:)
19:05.19TaZ|have a beta?
19:05.29CoreDump|homewhich Z?
19:05.34TaZ|6000
19:05.36TaZ|6000L
19:05.43CoreDump|homenope, sorry :(
19:05.47TaZ|shit :/
19:05.55TaZ|when? please
19:06.16CoreDump|homeI dunno, when mickeyl decides its ready i guess
19:06.35TaZ|ok
19:06.36TaZ|=)
19:06.41CoreDump|home:)
19:06.56paxlCoreDump|home: do you have beta for 5500 :)
19:07.05CoreDump|homewith a bit of luck we will have an Enlightenment image beside Opie and GPE
19:07.14paxlrealy coolos :)
19:07.17rabiesthats cool
19:07.33CoreDump|homecool indeed, the screenshots _rock_
19:07.35rabiesit a pda image or more like the pdaXrom desktop thing?
19:07.44TaZ|CoreDump|home, where ca, I read news about 3.5.4 please?
19:08.07paxlcan we see the screenshot ?
19:08.28paxlwhat package give stdio.h in Oz ?
19:08.48CoreDump|homeopenzaurus.org will announce 3.5.4 as soon as its out. it will be announced on  oesf.org as well
19:08.59TaZ|ok
19:09.29CoreDump|homeah, the screenshot is gone
19:09.46CoreDump|homewell, if my image boots I'll post a new one ;)
19:09.54paxlhehe
19:10.25CoreDump|homepaxl: http://www.hentges.net/misc/openzaurus/oz3.5.3-opie1.2.0.shtml <- pre 3.5.4 image.
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19:11.26paxloki CoreDump|home .. I already tryed it.. but I preferd to use a real root on sd ..
19:12.11CoreDump|homeoh it can do that all right. You'd need to create an image by your own though
19:12.29sliski have a problem using the unionroot package: if i add an sd to the union i'm unable to remove it from the union, it's always busy
19:13.04CoreDump|homeunionroot is way buggy
19:13.46sliskwell what about doing it manually?  i typing in the appropriate commands myself, but the card is always seen as busy
19:14.01TaZ|CoreDump|home is it your website? =>http://www.hentges.net/misc/openzaurus/oz3.5.3-opie1.2.0.shtml
19:14.14CoreDump|homeyes
19:14.19TaZ|ok :)
19:14.35TaZ|you devellop your own OS?
19:14.43TaZ|OZ custom?
19:14.54sliski tried moving the workign directory to a directory not in the branch i'm removing, i tried referring to the union though that dir also, always busy
19:14.57sliskcan any1 help?
19:14.58CoreDump|homekinda, yeah
19:15.07TaZ|ok
19:15.07TaZ|:)
19:15.13sliskand i already tried searching the net, nothing useful
19:15.23TaZ|do you want to port your OZ custom on sl-6000L ? :)
19:15.42CoreDump|homecan't do that w/o a 6000, right? :)
19:16.00CoreDump|homebesides, 4 devices are more than enough work to maintain :(
19:16.03TaZ|I don't understand:/
19:16.04CoreDump|homeerr 3
19:16.10TaZ|ho
19:16.11TaZ|ok :)
19:16.25TaZ|because, in fact I have a 6000L
19:16.33TaZ|and if you like we can do it =)
19:16.59CoreDump|homefirst step would be to install openembedded: see openembedded.org
19:17.46TaZ|ho
19:17.47TaZ|ok
19:17.49TaZ|I go
19:18.12TaZ|so funny you favorite bash quote CoreDump|home ^^
19:18.40CoreDump|home:D
19:19.08sliskwhen i try to build anything using oz's archive metadata, i get the error "tar: /home/stuff/zaurus/zaurus-build/oz/sources/config_savannah.gnu.org__20050403.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory"...
19:19.14slisk...where do i get this file?
19:19.38sliski assume from savannah, but what's the package?
19:20.05TaZ|CoreDump|home, I don't understand, how OE works...in fact, where can I download this OS?
19:21.00CoreDump|homeOE is a crosscompiling environment used to compile OpenZaurus
19:21.17TaZ|ah ok
19:21.18TaZ|:)
19:21.33TaZ|it's hard to make working?
19:21.46CoreDump|homenot really
19:21.56CoreDump|homedo you run linux on your desktop?
19:22.20TaZ|now I'm on windows xp, but I'm in in dual boot too
19:22.26TaZ|so, i have linux on my desktop
19:22.33TaZ|mandrake & gentoo :)
19:23.33CoreDump|homegood :) its a requirement of OE
19:24.13CoreDump|homeOMG Enlightenment looks *sweet*
19:24.31CoreDump|homehttp://handhelds.org/scap/port.8406.png
19:24.53sliskOE question here, can any1 help?  when i try to build anything with OE i get "ERROR: function do_patchcleancmd failed" and it spits out what looks like help info for usage of the "quilt" command
19:25.18TaZ|CoreDump|home the screenshot is your Zaurus ou desktop? or laptop?
19:25.36CoreDump|homeslisk: might want to ask in #oe
19:25.37CoreDump|homethe zaurus
19:25.45TaZ|cool :)
19:25.51TaZ|so nice:)
19:25.55CoreDump|homehttp://handhelds.org/scap/port.8595.png
19:26.10TaZ|hoho :)
19:26.24TaZ|it's you, you have port enlightmenent to Z?
19:26.42CoreDump|homehell no
19:26.46TaZ|ok
19:26.50CoreDump|homeJustinP and mickeyl did the work
19:27.21sliskCoreDump|home: what about the archive OZ metadata i used to build with? do i ask about that there or here?
19:27.29CoreDump|homehah, take this pdaxrom :D
19:27.33TaZ|ok
19:27.51CoreDump|homeslisk: everything concerning the build environment is ontopic in #oe
19:28.00rabieswhens that desktop coming out?
19:28.24rabiesi want that :)
19:28.26CoreDump|homehttp://handhelds.org/scap/port.8962.png <- edit mode
19:28.28JustinPTaZ|: yeah, I did a bunch of work getting E to compile
19:28.36CoreDump|homerabies: 3.5.4 I hope :)
19:28.44CoreDump|homeJustinP: way to go dude
19:28.46rabiesCoreDump|home: so do i :)
19:29.06TaZ|good work JustinP :)
19:29.13rabiesya, definitely
19:29.41TaZ|CoreDump|home, in a nut shell, OE is to crosscompile OZ for Zaurus ?
19:29.52CoreDump|homeTaZ|: correct
19:29.55TaZ|ok
19:30.09TaZ|so, OE is about build OS
19:30.18TaZ|and not stand alone apps
19:30.19TaZ|^^
19:30.21TaZ|yes?
19:30.22TaZ|:)
19:31.33CoreDump|homeit can do both
19:32.04TaZ|ok
19:32.19TaZ|full great tools finally :]
19:32.29CoreDump|homeindeed
19:32.30sliskany1 know what "pastebin" is? i was told to "pastebin my error"
19:32.58CoreDump|home~pastebin
19:32.58iboti guess pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca
19:33.58TaZ|CoreDump|home, with OE, I don't understand when the model of your device (5500 or 6000L) is concerned?
19:34.50CoreDump|homeeach build is device specific
19:35.01TaZ|ok
19:35.10TaZ|how you specify your device?
19:35.15CoreDump|homeso if I compile for Akita, it's no use for a Spitz
19:35.23CoreDump|homeyou edit local.conf in OE
19:35.32CoreDump|homeMACHINE=
19:35.56TaZ|ok
19:35.56TaZ|:)
19:36.03TaZ|OE support sl-6000L ?
19:36.11CoreDump|homeof course
19:36.26TaZ|cool :)
19:37.02TaZ|but, I don't see the aim to build a "OS" for my Z.... ?
19:38.44CoreDump|homeTaZ|: you stared it :)
19:38.52TaZ|hum?
19:38.58CoreDump|homeanyways, gotta go bbl
19:39.06TaZ|i don't understand
19:39.09TaZ|I'm french
19:39.19TaZ|so "school" english please
19:39.19TaZ|:)
19:39.26TaZ|speak*
19:39.46CoreDump|homeyou wanted to por hentges to a 6000
19:39.50CoreDump|homeport even
19:40.03CoreDump|homeso you have to recompile the whole OS for a 6000
19:40.18CoreDump|homeno I go get some food, later ;)
19:40.19TaZ|hentges = ??
19:40.34JustinPCoreDump|home: that's not 100% true. You can compile for pretty much any zaurus the the ipks should work except for a few which are machine specific
19:41.06CoreDump|bblin this case he would need to build everything ;)
19:41.20CoreDump|bblto aim is to get an initrd.bin
19:41.55TaZ|ok
19:42.04TaZ|thanks :)
19:42.50JustinPlater, got to go
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20:19.04rabiesanyone know the name of the set time package?
20:19.15pebhow about ntpdate?
20:19.16rabiesthe hentges package didnt come with a few things i guess
20:19.27rabiesthe one where ican set it manually in case i have to
20:19.48CoreDump|homerabies: did you install the cardfs?
20:20.14rabiesCoreDump|home: well my SD card is borked, so im just using your image with the regular root till i get a replacement
20:20.16pebdate -s "YYMMDD HHSS" or look to the man pages (it can be it is MMDD HHMMSS CCYY)
20:20.26CoreDump|homerabies: ahh, sorry forgot :(
20:20.31rabiesnp
20:20.35rabies'sall good :)
20:20.44rabiesim just happy i have a working kernel and apps
20:21.16CoreDump|home:)
20:21.30CoreDump|homeyou can set the time by clicking the clock applet
20:21.43rabiesya, for some reason the config tool isnt coming up
20:21.47rabiesim thinking something isnt installed
20:21.51CoreDump|homeoops
20:22.03rabiesyeah, he
20:22.04rabiesheh
20:23.16rabiesyou know the name of the package that has it?
20:23.23CoreDump|homeno clue
20:23.29rabiesk
20:23.45CoreDump|homefsck over NFS sucks
20:24.28sliskany1 have any experience using unionfs?  does any1 know how to deal with the busy device problem for unionfs as root?
20:25.11sliskusing unionfs for the root fs that is...
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20:34.28pebafter I moved back to the original rom, I'm up and willing to play again with an openzaurus version. I'm having boxer, so what would be a good kernal/release to start with (nearly) all function keys working?
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20:54.06sliski made a custom keymap that mimics the keyboard of a pc (for what it's worth), it even has console switching, ctrl and alt keys
20:54.17sliskwould you like to take a look at it?
20:54.57sliski can also send you my list of key->keycodes so you can make your own
20:56.49rabieswhat package lets me suspend?
20:57.17CoreDump|homeopie-suspendapplet
20:57.38rabiesthx
21:00.47CoreDump|homenp
21:10.16pebslisk, about the keycodes table: that would be great
21:11.22paxlroot@collie:~# arm-linux-gcc hello.c
21:11.22paxl/usr/lib/gcc/arm-linux/3.4.3/../../../../arm-linux/bin/ld:/usr/lib/gcc/arm-linux/3.4.3/../../../libc.so: file format not recognized; treating as linker script
21:11.25paxl/usr/lib/gcc/arm-linux/3.4.3/../../../../arm-linux/bin/ld:/usr/lib/gcc/arm-linux/3.4.3/../../../libc.so:4: syntax error
21:11.28paxlcollect2: ld returned 1 exit status
21:11.33paxlIf I get this error, what lib is missing me ?
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22:11.02sliskzomg, abuse THE GAME for zaurus!?!?
22:11.07sliskis that for real??
22:12.51sliskhm, guess it's only available in OE
22:13.36sliskany1 have any1 experience with the snes emulator for zaurus 5500?  how do it perform?
22:15.19sliskserious question: how do you change the lcd's brightness from the command line?
22:15.38sliski want to make a script that sets the brightness to a lower default
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23:30.16darkskyhi has anyone gotten vlc media player to run on OZ
23:34.22sleeplessthat would be nice
23:34.30sleeplessbut mplayer plays almost anything too
23:36.31darkskydoes it play wma fils
23:36.33darkskyfiles
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23:45.37darkskyhow do i get around a segmentation fault that stops opie from loading?
23:47.38sliski think ppl will need more details than just "a"
23:48.08darkskywell
23:48.12darkskyim booting up
23:48.21darkskyand it says
23:48.24darkskystarting opie....
23:48.25darkskythen
23:48.28darkskysegmentation fault
23:48.48darkskyopenzaurus 3.5.3-snapshot-20050722 collie tty1
23:48.53darkskythen collie login:
23:49.24slisktry logging in and using dmesg for more info
23:51.03darkskyi dont really see anything
23:51.06darkskydo you mind if i pm you
23:51.19sliski'm not really the guy to go to on this i'm pretty new to oz
23:51.26sliskand i use gpe
23:51.29darkskyoh
23:52.40sliskin many distros, normal console output is supressed by boot scripts.  try starting opie manually
23:53.02sliskmore details might be output if you do that
23:53.32darkskystarting opie manually?
23:54.13sliskthere's a command somewhere to start it outside of a boot script.  try typing the letters o-p-i-e then pressing the tab key for autocomplete
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23:56.57darkskynope
23:57.08_vector_that was helpful :P
23:57.19darkskylol i was talking to slisk
23:57.38_vector_hehe
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