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| 02:28.58 | tanq | what is the best way to move /usr to my sd card I did this before but forgot exactly what I did.. |
| 02:29.50 | tanq | i want to completely remove /usr from mtdblock2 and move it to sd. the moving isn't the hard part.. it is removing /usr from mtdblock2 at least i think .. but I also think that I'm not thinking straight at the moment.. |
| 02:29.57 | tanq | might be making this more difficult than it is.. |
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| 04:33.57 | rabies | anyone here know of a good solid carrying case for a SL-5500? |
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| 06:18.15 | buffer_ | What's a good Zimage for a 5500 |
| 06:18.18 | buffer_ | 32-32 |
| 06:18.20 | buffer_ | 64-0 |
| 06:18.23 | buffer_ | I guess i'm a bit confused |
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| 06:26.12 | buffer_ | Anyone around? |
| 06:38.09 | buffer_ | Are there any fundament differences between Opie and GPE when it comes to application compatibility |
| 07:23.45 | JustinP | buffer_: 64-0 is the one I used |
| 07:24.03 | JustinP | buffer_: yes, Opie runs on Qt from Trolltech. GPE runs on X |
| 07:24.14 | buffer_ | JustinP: which do you prefer? |
| 07:24.50 | JustinP | buffer_: GPE, but it's fairly different from Opie/Qtopia |
| 07:24.59 | JustinP | buffer_: you can always try one, then go to the other |
| 07:25.11 | JustinP | buffer_: and you can run them together if you move root to an sd card |
| 07:25.37 | buffer_ | JustinP: I see. I was also wondering if there was any sort of package manager? or do you just find a place to download them and manually/compile/install |
| 07:31.17 | JustinP | buffer_: yes, there is of course a package manager...ipkg on the command line is the best method |
| 07:31.30 | JustinP | there are also GUIs but they have memory leaks and other errors... |
| 07:32.38 | buffer_ | oka |
| 07:32.39 | buffer_ | y |
| 07:32.42 | buffer_ | thanks again. |
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| 08:39.40 | CoreDump|home | morning |
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| 09:58.22 | buffer_ | anywhere know where the hell I can get kismet for OZ |
| 09:59.40 | buffer_ | anyone also |
| 09:59.41 | buffer_ | heh |
| 10:11.11 | XorA | buffer_: isnt it in the feed? |
| 10:12.45 | XorA | http://www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.3/feed/console/kismet_2005-01-R1-r0_arm.ipk |
| 10:23.22 | buffer_ | hmm |
| 10:23.24 | buffer_ | I got a 5500 |
| 10:23.26 | buffer_ | just flashed |
| 10:23.31 | buffer_ | it randomly shuts off.. now |
| 10:23.40 | buffer_ | and won't turn on when I push the power button |
| 10:28.29 | XorA | buffer_: randomly as in when you press right arrow for more than 2 secs? |
| 10:29.21 | buffer_ | ah, that could have been it. I was in the text editor and moving over to erase text |
| 10:29.36 | XorA | buffer_: read the openzaurus.org site and upgrade your kernel, thats fixed |
| 10:30.45 | buffer_ | to upgrade to I have to reflash? |
| 10:31.20 | buffer_ | to = do |
| 10:31.22 | buffer_ | fuck it's late |
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| 10:35.19 | XorA | buffer_: you only need to reflash kernel, but you MUST follow the instructions about upgrading the modules |
| 10:35.37 | XorA | buffer_: your / filesystem will not be affected |
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| 10:55.13 | buffer_ | XorA: when I add 'upgrades/collie into ipkg.conf and run ipkg update it says ignoring unknown configuation parameter 'upgrades/collie |
| 10:57.12 | XorA | buffer_: src upgradescollie http://www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.3/upgrades/collie/ |
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| 11:00.17 | buffer_ | nah |
| 11:00.32 | buffer_ | the rest of them look like src/gzopie |
| 11:00.38 | buffer_ | src/gzdevel |
| 11:00.38 | buffer_ | etc |
| 11:00.45 | buffer_ | I tried your way too |
| 11:01.48 | XorA | buffer_: src src/gz are intercahanble |
| 11:04.53 | buffer_ | hmm |
| 11:04.57 | buffer_ | I don't know then |
| 11:05.56 | XorA | buffer_: are you tring to use upgrades/collie as the src name, I dont think that works |
| 11:06.12 | XorA | buffer_: Id add src/gz uc http://www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.3/upgrades/collie/ |
| 11:07.16 | buffer_ | I think I need to do it in VI |
| 11:07.44 | buffer_ | It looks completely different, ie: the links exist right next to the src line all in one line |
| 11:07.53 | buffer_ | in the graphical editor, they are under |
| 11:07.54 | buffer_ | the links |
| 11:11.53 | buffer_ | I got it |
| 11:11.55 | buffer_ | that was it |
| 11:11.59 | buffer_ | had to turn on wrap lines |
| 11:12.23 | buffer_ | it's usually a bad idea when it comes to *nix like operating systems |
| 11:12.27 | buffer_ | GUI's that is. |
| 11:13.05 | XorA | Im a developer so my Z spends half the time knackered anyway |
| 11:13.13 | buffer_ | hehe |
| 11:13.15 | buffer_ | bahhhh |
| 11:13.20 | buffer_ | failed to rename /tmp |
| 11:13.28 | buffer_ | something something |
| 11:16.21 | buffer_ | failed to rename /tmp/ipkg-tDw2KQ/Packages.gz to /tmp/ipkg.ZBjJzB/upgrades/collie.gz :No such file or directory |
| 11:16.34 | buffer_ | I guess some other guy on the site is having the same error |
| 11:16.37 | buffer_ | no feedback yet |
| 11:19.25 | buffer_ | XorA: is there a kernel that I can just reflash with an image without doing the upgrade inside a default |
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| 11:19.57 | XorA | buffer_: no, if you just reflash the kernel without upgrade you get an oops on boot |
| 11:20.14 | XorA | buffer_: and no-one re-issued an image to match that kernel |
| 11:20.38 | buffer_ | I see. maybe it's an opie thing, although I doubt it would be. People say it works on GPE but no one has mentioned opie |
| 11:20.39 | buffer_ | yet |
| 11:20.55 | XorA | hrw the maintainer runs opie |
| 11:21.23 | XorA | buffer_: give me your src/gz line |
| 11:23.25 | buffer_ | src/gz upgrades/collie http://www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.3/upgrades/collie |
| 11:24.29 | XorA | buffer_: src/gz uc http://www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.3/upgrades/collie |
| 11:24.43 | XorA | as I said earlier, I think the slash in upgrades/collie confuses ipk |
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| 11:25.23 | buffer_ | You are correct, I just changed src/gz upgrades/collie to src/gz upgradescollie |
| 11:25.24 | buffer_ | works fine |
| 11:26.36 | buffer_ | copy r21 kernel from “upgrades/collie” into CF card and flash it (ONLY kernel) |
| 11:26.44 | buffer_ | Where is this directory located? |
| 11:26.49 | buffer_ | sorry, very new to this oz |
| 11:26.56 | buffer_ | thanks for the patience, though. |
| 11:28.17 | XorA | buffer_: copy http://www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.3/upgrades/collie/zImage-collie-64-0-r21.bin unto a CF card like you did when you first flashed, rename it to zImage |
| 11:28.34 | XorA | buffer_: remove initrd.bin from CF card if it is there, then reflash the Z |
| 11:28.58 | buffer_ | Do I have to use the same 64-0 line, I think I had 54-something |
| 11:29.02 | buffer_ | shouldn't matter? |
| 11:29.29 | XorA | buffer_: 64-0 is the best kernel, not sure why people select any other |
| 11:29.49 | XorA | buffer_: have you finished ipkg upgrade? |
| 11:30.14 | buffer_ | I did ipkg update;ipkg upgrade |
| 11:30.19 | buffer_ | for upgrade it said nothing to be done |
| 11:30.24 | buffer_ | the update did all of it's stuff |
| 11:31.16 | XorA | buffer_: something is wrong, it should have upgraded al the kernel-module-* |
| 11:33.40 | buffer_ | Do you have a copy of ipkg.conf available? |
| 11:34.10 | XorA | buffer_: I dont use 5500 |
| 11:34.25 | XorA | buffer_: can you paste yours on pastebin.ca ? |
| 11:34.52 | buffer_ | yes |
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| 11:42.43 | buffer_ | one sec, sorry |
| 11:50.43 | buffer_ | http://pastebin.ca/20311 |
| 11:50.52 | buffer_ | still around, sorry my kid was up |
| 11:53.21 | XorA | buffer_: that looks fine to me unless Ive gone blind |
| 11:54.17 | buffer_ | yes, same here. |
| 11:54.34 | buffer_ | the only thing I can think of |
| 11:54.56 | buffer_ | is the first line above dest cf /media/cf/packages/ |
| 11:54.56 | buffer_ | dest sd /media/card/packages/ |
| 11:54.56 | buffer_ | dest ram /media/ram/packages/ |
| 11:55.04 | buffer_ | there was a root one |
| 11:55.22 | buffer_ | else everything is identical |
| 11:56.30 | XorA | buffer_: ah good point dest root is missing |
| 11:56.42 | buffer_ | is it just dest /root |
| 11:56.47 | buffer_ | or dest root / |
| 11:56.48 | buffer_ | or what |
| 11:56.52 | XorA | buffer_: dest root / |
| 11:57.00 | XorA | buffer_: and should be first dest |
| 12:00.17 | buffer_ | there we go. |
| 12:02.24 | XorA | buffer_: popping out to buy lunch, back soon |
| 12:02.48 | buffer_ | XorA: no problem, thank you. |
| 12:16.56 | XorA | buffer_: back |
| 12:17.48 | buffer_ | okay |
| 12:20.58 | buffer_ | what'd you get to eat |
| 12:21.36 | XorA | soup and ham roll |
| 12:23.56 | buffer_ | where are you from btw? |
| 12:25.18 | XorA | buffer_: Edinburgh Scotland |
| 12:27.08 | buffer_ | Ah |
| 12:28.51 | XorA | you? |
| 12:28.59 | buffer_ | USA |
| 12:29.02 | buffer_ | Minnesota |
| 12:32.06 | XorA | a bit away then :-) |
| 12:34.39 | buffer_ | seems so :) |
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| 12:36.16 | buffer_ | If you have something on you rom flashed, and you want to reflash it with something completely different is there some type of format or do you just flash and everything previously on it gets formatted anyways |
| 12:37.43 | XorA | buffer_: everything is overwritten |
| 12:39.46 | buffer_ | Which Zaurus do you have? |
| 12:41.13 | XorA | C860 |
| 12:41.26 | XorA | I started on a 5500 but then endded up in tokyo on business and upgraded |
| 12:41.43 | buffer_ | big difference I bet? |
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| 12:42.53 | XorA | buffer_: yeah, 400Mhz and 640x480 screen |
| 12:43.20 | buffer_ | I had a Dell Axim X50V |
| 12:43.27 | buffer_ | 550Mhz or so |
| 12:43.29 | buffer_ | beautiful screen |
| 12:43.32 | buffer_ | 16MB Video Card |
| 12:44.13 | buffer_ | Actually, 624Mhz |
| 12:44.19 | buffer_ | GPs |
| 12:44.21 | buffer_ | the whole bag |
| 12:44.30 | buffer_ | ended up selling the damn thing |
| 12:46.03 | buffer_ | was nice while I had it though |
| 12:46.11 | buffer_ | except the Windows CE |
| 12:46.52 | XorA | yeah, guy at work has one, wish dell would see sense |
| 12:47.41 | buffer_ | They are assholes about support. So many people are pissed off about not being able to get linux on there quickly enough |
| 12:47.50 | buffer_ | because they won't release any detailed specs on the device |
| 12:51.12 | XorA | to be honest, they probably dont know |
| 12:51.28 | XorA | 99.9% that hardware is licencsed from a korean/japanese company |
| 12:52.21 | buffer_ | True. |
| 12:52.36 | buffer_ | It would be such a great device to get linux on, but I don't see it happening. |
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| 12:53.20 | buffer_ | not soon |
| 12:53.47 | buffer_ | What do you do for a living XorA? |
| 12:57.40 | XorA | buffer_: Software Engineeer |
| 12:59.58 | buffer_ | Any specific language? Or a bit of everything? |
| 13:05.57 | XorA | buffer_: C/C++ Java Perl |
| 13:11.27 | buffer_ | I'm learning Java in College right now |
| 13:16.54 | XorA | its pretty sucky |
| 13:22.21 | buffer_ | and ugly |
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| 13:27.58 | XorA | buffer_: did the upgrad work? BTW |
| 13:32.23 | buffer_ | no, i've reflashed twice. it locks up on the same damn package |
| 13:32.26 | buffer_ | it won't download it |
| 13:32.41 | buffer_ | do you know where this packages or store, and if so, can I manually download it and store it there |
| 13:32.46 | buffer_ | so it doesn't redownload it |
| 13:33.06 | XorA | buffer_: you can download it to cf and just do ipkg install blah.ipk |
| 13:33.18 | buffer_ | ok |
| 13:33.59 | XorA | buffer_: the argument is a packagename, a url http://blah.com/package.ipk or a filename blah.ipk |
| 13:37.32 | buffer_ | no space left on device |
| 13:37.52 | buffer_ | hrm, can't I use my SD card to install this stuff |
| 13:38.40 | XorA | buffer_: ah, you'll need to uninstall a couple of not needed stuff from / and install it on SD |
| 13:38.51 | buffer_ | this is a fresh install |
| 13:39.10 | XorA | buffer_: is unfortuneate but collie is so low on space |
| 13:39.28 | XorA | buffer_: when I had a 5500, I used to move the PIM stuff I used least or not at all to SD |
| 13:41.09 | buffer_ | yay |
| 13:41.11 | buffer_ | bus error |
| 13:41.14 | buffer_ | when trying to start opie |
| 13:43.42 | buffer_ | it's gotta be that libqte |
| 13:43.47 | buffer_ | that's the one I am having trouble with |
| 13:51.59 | buffer_ | indeed |
| 13:54.41 | buffer_ | made it through the upgrade part |
| 13:54.43 | buffer_ | now just flash? |
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| 19:38.40 | Biblio_peb___ | Hi all, does anyone know where I can get a working perl feed for the C860 (oZ 3.5.3)? |
| 20:02.18 | Biblio_peb___ | HI -is anyone here? |
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| 20:21.44 | peb_ | Hi - Does anyone here know where I can get a working perl ipk file for openzaurus (3.5.3/opie 1.2)? |
| 20:37.54 | JustinP | grab OE and compile one perhaps... |
| 20:39.03 | peb_ | JustinP, seems to be the only viable solution - the stuff I got is not installable, always having some other installation problem (depends on the feed). |
| 20:39.37 | peb_ | so this seems to be something for the weekend ... I've first to setup my machine for Z / OE compilation. |
| 20:39.51 | JustinP | peb_: it's not too bad |
| 20:41.01 | peb_ | I assume, I've seen (was it on the OE site) a complete script on how to setup the machine - so it should be just "follow the rules .." |
| 20:43.18 | JustinP | yep |
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| 23:31.49 | buffer_ | does ipkg store a log |
| 23:32.16 | CoreDump|home | nope |
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| 23:53.40 | ZonE-HaKin9 | Morning All ;) |