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| 04:19.18 | *** topic/#openzaurus is OpenZaurus user discussion/support channel | developer discussion in #oe | http://openzaurus.org/ | Don't ask to ask, just ask. | OZ 3.5.3 -> http://openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.3/ | Report OZ bugs at http://bugs.openembedded.org/ l/p: guest/guest |
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| 04:59.45 | *** topic/#openzaurus is OpenZaurus user discussion/support channel | developer discussion in #oe | http://openzaurus.org/ | Don't ask to ask, just ask. | OZ 3.5.3 -> http://openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.3/ | Report OZ bugs at http://bugs.openembedded.org/ l/p: guest/guest |
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| 07:49.57 | hrw|work | morning |
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| 08:32.49 | XorA | morning |
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| 09:53.58 | lardman | morning |
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| 11:07.14 | alan | hi ! |
| 11:07.43 | alan | if you don't know it yet, opera is free today for desktops !! look at here http://my.opera.com/community/party/reg.dml |
| 11:07.44 | XorA | hey alan |
| 11:07.52 | alan | yop XorA |
| 11:07.54 | XorA | alan: well they have to get rid of it somehow |
| 11:07.55 | lardman|work | hi guys |
| 11:08.08 | alan | hey ! i thought about you during my holidays ! |
| 11:08.13 | alan | hi lardman|work |
| 11:08.22 | lardman|work | hey alan |
| 11:08.54 | alan | XorA: the most wonderfull firelights i've ever seen (even better than in Paris for the 14 of July) is in Royan ! |
| 11:09.35 | alan | XorA: you MUST see this at least once in your life is you really can't get enough firelights :) |
| 11:11.20 | XorA | alan: that in Netherlands? |
| 11:12.33 | XorA | alan: our big display is on Sep 4th this year |
| 11:23.27 | lardman|work | ah, fireworks, I thought you were talking about those candle things you put in the back-garden to drive mozzies away |
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| 11:44.20 | OSS542 | query: Is bit bake still being used for OpenZaurus ? |
| 11:44.43 | OSS542 | I'm getting an error back which says "no free bk after July 1,2005" |
| 11:44.52 | XorA | OSS542: bitbake != bk |
| 11:45.16 | XorA | we now use monotone for source control, go back to website |
| 11:45.33 | OSS542 | checking |
| 11:45.59 | OSS542 | the instructions for building 3.5.3 still refer to bk |
| 11:46.08 | OSS542 | http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/development/building-353/ |
| 11:48.16 | OSS542 | XorA: do you have a URL where the proper procedure can be found ? |
| 11:51.32 | OSS542 | hello ? |
| 11:52.17 | hrw|work | OSS542: to build 3.5.3 you need exported oe tree which is available on oz.org |
| 11:52.43 | hrw|work | let me look into that article.. |
| 11:52.48 | OSS542 | I see....I was trying to do 3.5.4 ... |
| 11:52.52 | hrw|work | In sdk directory you can find archived OpenEmbedded metadata. |
| 11:53.10 | OSS542 | but everything has changed recently apparently.... |
| 11:53.21 | OSS542 | I see there is no mor using bk |
| 11:53.25 | OSS542 | +e |
| 11:54.35 | OSS542 | I've got a SL-C3000, and I'd like to try and test the gpe image for 3.5.4 on it |
| 11:55.12 | hrw|work | so forget about article on oz.org and go to http://www.openembedded.org/ |
| 11:55.57 | OSS542 | hrw|work: same problem there.....they haven't updated the documentation for working with monotone |
| 11:56.03 | hrw|work | really? |
| 11:56.19 | OSS542 | yes.....see the following: |
| 11:56.25 | OSS542 | http://oe.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/GettingStarted |
| 11:56.49 | OSS542 | perhaps I missed something somewhere |
| 11:56.49 | hrw|work | As of July 1st, 2005 Bit Keeper is no longer used by Open Embedded for SCM. So the main Open Embedded developers have been experimenting with [WWW]Monotone as the SCM for Open Embedded. The transition is complete, but you may encounter some rough edges as we all get used to a new workflow. |
| 11:57.06 | hrw|work | monotone --db=/stuff/oe.db pull monotone.vanille.de "org.openembedded.{dev,dreambox}" |
| 11:57.10 | hrw|work | etc.. |
| 11:57.17 | hrw|work | right from GettingStarted |
| 11:57.39 | OSS542 | which page are you looking at ? |
| 11:57.47 | hrw|work | http://oe.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/GettingStarted |
| 11:57.48 | OSS542 | I'm seeing stuff about bitkeeper |
| 11:57.57 | lardman|work | below that |
| 11:58.14 | lardman|work | the bitbake stuff should be removed though or marked as old |
| 11:58.30 | hrw|work | OSS542: I see just ONE info about bitkeeper - and quoted it already here |
| 11:58.32 | OSS542 | ah.....that's how I missed it......I see now.....I've got a bit of reading to do then....thanks...:) |
| 11:59.41 | lardman|work | oops s/bitbake/bitkeeper |
| 12:00.54 | OSS542 | lardman|work: thanks for the assistance...:-) |
| 12:01.18 | OSS542 | hrw|work: thanks to you too, Good Sir...:-) |
| 12:01.23 | hrw|work | np |
| 12:01.36 | lardman|work | not sure mine was assistance, more confusion |
| 12:01.58 | hrw|work | OSS542: when you will find your spitz not needed you can always send it to me ;) |
| 12:02.13 | OSS542 | got to go pull out all my old bitkeeeper stuff |
| 12:05.36 | OSS542 | hrw|work: I got it for $300 from a friend who couldn't figure out how to use it |
| 12:06.05 | hrw|work | nice price ;) |
| 12:06.23 | hrw|work | OSS542: contact with RP on #oe to help spitz/2.6 testing |
| 12:07.05 | OSS542 | will do......I'm going to try and set up for building stuff first.....when I get that working again, I'll be in a better position to help out. |
| 12:08.12 | OSS542 | Zaurus stuff is not too difficult to get here......I live about 40 minutes from DenDenTown Osaka |
| 12:08.37 | hrw|work | japanese man you are? |
| 12:08.58 | OSS542 | born in Niagara Falls NY.....moved here for a job about 10 years ago..... |
| 12:09.01 | OSS542 | still here |
| 12:09.19 | OSS542 | not much work in Niagara Falls NY of any type |
| 12:09.33 | hrw|work | never was there |
| 12:11.17 | OSS542 | former industrial city......now largely sustained by welfare |
| 12:11.57 | OSS542 | into...even |
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| 17:59.16 | mr_clark | Installed the latest version of openzaurus on SL-5000. Trying to install zsafe. Do a ipkg -d sd install zsafe_2.1.3_arm.ipk and get error "ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for zsafe: qpe-base ($QPE_VERSION)" |
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| 18:03.54 | JustinP | mr_clark: well, do you have any version of qpe-base installed? |
| 18:06.07 | mr_clark | No. But I can't seem to find it in the feeds and from what I've read qpe-base doesn't exist in the latest version of Openzaurus/Opie. They've changed the names or something? |
| 18:06.11 | mr_clark | I could be wrong though. |
| 18:10.21 | mr_clark | Do I need to install oz-compat? |
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| 18:15.12 | JustinP | mr_clark: oz-compat is for making binaries for the Sharp ROM work |
| 18:15.19 | JustinP | mr_clark: where did you get zsafe from? |
| 18:17.20 | mr_clark | http://z-soft.z-portal.info/zsafe/ |
| 18:18.31 | JustinP | unless it's compile for OZ you're going to need oz-compat, yes |
| 18:18.37 | JustinP | for OZ 3.5.3 I should say |
| 18:18.45 | JustinP | and you may have to -force-depends |
| 18:19.17 | XorA | I thought zsafe was in the OZ feed, there is a GPL version |
| 18:19.43 | mr_clark | I haven't been able to find it in the oz feed. I'll take another look. |
| 18:21.32 | mr_clark | Can't find it anywhere. |
| 18:21.52 | mr_clark | I did use the version from the site on the old version of openzaurus. I think I waas running 3.3.5. |
| 18:23.11 | XorA | maybe its called opie-zsafe? |
| 18:23.43 | mr_clark | Thats a much older version though. |
| 18:23.48 | mr_clark | 1.2 vs 1.4 |
| 18:24.08 | mr_clark | No sorry. 1.2 vs 2.1 |
| 18:24.27 | mr_clark | The format of the files has changed in the new version so I won't be able to bring in my old data. |
| 18:24.56 | XorA | :-( |
| 18:29.52 | mr_clark | Any other suggestions anybody? |
| 18:30.16 | JustinP | mr_clark: oz-compat and -force-depends |
| 18:33.39 | mr_clark | Okay I've tried installing oz-compat and I get an error about /etc/init.d/quickexec not found. Which package do I need to install for quickexec? |
| 18:33.57 | JustinP | should be in oz-compat I thought.... |
| 18:34.16 | mr_clark | Installing oz-compat (0.5) to sd... |
| 18:34.21 | mr_clark | Configuing oz-compat |
| 18:34.51 | mr_clark | postinst script returned status 127 |
| 18:34.55 | mr_clark | Hmm... |
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| 18:44.29 | mr_clark | Okay. installed zsafe with oz-compat. If I try to run zsafe I get "No Qt/Embeeded server appear to be running. If you want to run this program as a server, add the "-qws" command-line option." |
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| 19:54.34 | Ratatu | hi all.. i'm on the virge of a nervous breakdown |
| 19:54.35 | Ratatu | :) |
| 19:54.47 | Ratatu | opie-console refuses to work |
| 19:55.04 | Ratatu | i reinstalled, uninstalled, ipkg upgrade etc |
| 19:55.11 | Ratatu | still terminates with sigsegv |
| 19:55.13 | Ratatu | :/ |
| 19:55.27 | Ratatu | please help, i'm dead without console access |
| 20:06.02 | JustinP | Ratatu: try sshing in |
| 20:06.16 | Ratatu | yeah, that works at home |
| 20:06.22 | Ratatu | but not in the field |
| 20:06.32 | JustinP | did you perhaps fill up your flash? |
| 20:06.51 | Ratatu | 2.2M free on root |
| 20:08.02 | Ratatu | collie here |
| 20:08.47 | Ratatu | feel free to throw in the weirdest ideas |
| 20:08.56 | Ratatu | i'm up for anything at this point, really |
| 20:09.24 | Ratatu | do you at least know of any other package for console access? |
| 20:09.31 | Ratatu | there was one but i can't remember the name |
| 20:10.10 | JustinP | konsole? |
| 20:11.26 | Ratatu | not in my feeds |
| 20:11.32 | Ratatu | i'll search though, thanks |
| 20:12.22 | JustinP | opie-embeddedkonsole |
| 20:14.29 | Ratatu | a manly hug, naturally |
| 20:15.01 | Ratatu | Wise JustinP, your name will always be remembered in the house of Ratatu |
| 20:15.37 | Ratatu | i obviously need rest now :) |
| 20:17.31 | JustinP | heh |
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| 21:53.48 | mr_clark | Okay. installed zsafe with oz-compat. If I try to run zsafe I get "No Qt/Embeeded server appear to be running. If you want to run this program as a server, add the "-qws" command-line option." |
| 21:54.03 | mr_clark | I'm having the same problem with any app that appears to require oz-compat. |
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| 21:55.36 | JustinP | did you *run* oz-compat on then? |
| 22:19.53 | mr_clark | JustinP, yes I did. |
| 22:20.16 | mr_clark | Then when I try to run zsafe I get QScoket::WriteBlock: Socket is not open |
| 22:20.42 | mr_clark | No Qt/Embedded server appears to be running. If you want to run this program as a server, add the "-qws" command-line option. |
| 22:20.58 | mr_clark | I have this problem with anything I need to run with oz-compat |
| 22:45.19 | mr_clark | came across a site that describes this problem (http://zaurus101.blogspot.com) and it recommends setting LOGNAME to root. I seem to get a little further. I get some information about the size of the window (WIDTH and HEIGHT) and then zsafe does a Segmentation fault. |
| 22:48.17 | JustinP | mr_clark: you're probably much better off trying to get whatever version of zsafe you want compiled into OZ |
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| 23:06.19 | jd86 | whats a good means of zfering data (music) to Z with OZ, scp stalls, and goes extremely slow, smb looks like a pain to setup because of the lack of those beutiful conf files which i dont know how to effectly make.. |
| 23:06.41 | JustinP | scp should work fine |
| 23:07.42 | jd86 | hrm |
| 23:08.38 | jd86 | i guess its going alright now |
| 23:08.51 | jd86 | mabye it didn't like to be shfs mounted |
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