| 00:03.54 | damian | no, nothing. just various different upgrade procedures for different install variations |
| 00:04.33 | damian | I didnt play with the original rom at all so dont even know what there is included |
| 00:04.44 | damian | yours I think is the same as mine except more memory |
| 00:05.00 | alandd | I found this page: http://www.oesf.org/index.php?title=Building_a_ROM that describes some commands under "Ripping the ROM" which I am running now to the CF. I'll read more on that page. Perhaps it describes the restoration process too. |
| 00:05.43 | damian | I would have thought a restoration would be the same as flashing the openzaurus rom, flick switch, press button with C+D ....... etc |
| 00:06.03 | alandd | Yes, the 5600 is an "upgrade" with more memory and a bigger battery. I don't know if the CPU is faster too. I went for the 5600 mostly for the bigger battery. |
| 00:11.17 | alandd | Ugh! The tar command on that page did not exclude /mnt so it went recursive trying to tar the destination tar file. had to stop it and start over excluding the /mnt directory. |
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| 00:12.03 | damian | eeek :) |
| 00:12.33 | alandd | damian, you are running OpenZaurus then? I have a few questions about it, if you would not mind. |
| 00:12.45 | damian | yes, oz 3.5.3 |
| 00:13.11 | alandd | is there an MP3 player available for it? |
| 00:13.40 | damian | Ive seen links to xmms for it |
| 00:13.52 | damian | are you a linux desktop person ? |
| 00:15.22 | alandd | yes, exclusively here at home at least. |
| 00:15.36 | damian | there is a index of software available at ipkgfind.handhelds.org |
| 00:15.59 | damian | just install with ipkg command works like gentoo emerge or apt-get/yum/whatever your distro uses |
| 00:16.08 | alandd | very good. I'll go bookmark that one. |
| 00:16.37 | damian | I have konqueurer running on mine :) |
| 00:18.31 | alandd | I need to get a CF network card. Have you used the SanDisk Connect Plus cards? The seem the most abundant on eBay and are only $20. |
| 00:18.43 | damian | thats what I use :) |
| 00:19.03 | damian | can only get the wifi side to work tho |
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| 00:23.35 | *** topic/#openzaurus is OpenZaurus user discussion/support channel | developer discussion in #oe | http://openzaurus.org/ | Don't ask to ask, just ask. | OZ 3.5.3 -> http://openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.3/ | Report OZ bugs at http://bugs.openembedded.org/ l/p: guest/guest |
| 00:32.44 | alandd | Oh, one more question, if you will indulge me. I don't want to sync my Zaurus as I would rather remote display it to my desktop. Since I use KDE on my desktop system, I think I want to use Opie on the Zaurus to keep a KDE-ish feel. But, as I understand it, Opie does not provide an X11 server to use for remote display. Is there another way to display the Zaurus screen on the desktop and control it remotely if the Zaurus |
| 00:32.44 | alandd | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:35.21 | damian | not sure on that one :/ |
| 00:35.48 | damian | Im using opie because I couldnt find a good browser for gpe |
| 00:39.29 | alandd | Interesting. I assume a VNC server is available for Opie. I'm downloading OpenZaurus stuff now after I have downloaded the official Sharp image for backup. |
| 00:41.08 | alandd | OK, my backup is done to a CF card and I have the official sharp image downloaded. I'll now download the OZ stuff and see if I can update my unit. |
| 00:43.52 | damian | good luck! |
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| 01:03.16 | alandd | Updater running now. Going for Opie since I think that is what I want but downloaded GPE too. |
| 01:04.00 | wood | guys, when i did ifup wlan0 at my university dhcp gave me a private addr |
| 01:04.35 | wood | but everytime im around a open wifi place like starbucks or something similar i can never get a dhcp discover |
| 01:04.38 | wood | response |
| 01:04.43 | wood | im using a sl-6000l |
| 01:04.53 | alandd | damian, "Success! Please reset" Here I go... |
| 01:05.14 | damian | wood its maybe encrupted or you need to buy "airtime" |
| 01:05.37 | wood | they have open wifi |
| 01:05.58 | wood | and plus at my friends house everything is open also but i never get a dhcp discover response |
| 01:06.00 | alandd | Got the OpenZaurus logo and Opie on the screen with boot stuff printing... |
| 01:06.08 | wood | im very confused |
| 01:09.19 | wood | does anyone here have a sl-6000l? |
| 01:10.45 | wood | does pdaxrom work on the 6000? |
| 01:11.15 | alandd | damian, Success! Opie is up. I'll have to play with it a bit now to see if I like it. |
| 01:11.23 | damian | great :) |
| 01:11.30 | damian | sorry wood im a 5500 user |
| 01:20.39 | alandd | wood, i have a 5600 and no network access on it yet. sorry. |
| 01:21.12 | alandd | are you able to connect if you manually set an address? you should be able to ignore the DHCP if you know the subnet and gateway. |
| 01:22.03 | alandd | damian, now I've got to setup IP over USB so I can network that way. I'm off to find HOWTOs. |
| 01:24.15 | damian | coool. I havent dont ip over usb |
| 01:24.23 | damian | but Im off to bed now. 2:30am here in UK ;) |
| 01:25.45 | wood | i have manually set them also and still no luck |
| 01:37.45 | alandd | damian, good night. |
| 01:38.12 | alandd | wood, I am sorry. My wireless experience is very minimal. |
| 01:38.26 | alandd | dinner time for me. Must go. |
| 02:09.03 | alandd | Yuck. When I turn the unit off with the Cancel button (really just a suspend), it will not turn back on. I have to reset to come back. |
| 02:09.27 | alandd | SL-5600 with OpenZaurus 3.2.3 and Opie. Anyone seen this problem before? |
| 02:15.57 | alandd | s/3.2.3/3.5.3/ |
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| 02:27.18 | ZonE-HaKin9|afk | alandd: yep i have the same prob too with my 5600.... |
| 02:33.55 | ZonE-HaKin9 | alandd: this kernel http://oz.hentges.net/releases/3.5.3/T3/poodle/kernels/zImage-poodle-fast-20050724132644.bin + this http://oz.hentges.net/releases/3.5.3/T3/poodle/oz-opie-poodle_T3-EN.tar.gz + this http://oz.hentges.net/releases/3.5.3/T3/poodle/cardfs-opie-poodle-openzaurus_oz3.5.3-opie1.2.0-r1.bin fixed that prob for me |
| 02:34.58 | AppleBoy | hrmm |
| 02:35.00 | ZonE-HaKin9 | alandd: but.... it has the right arror = suspend prob in it if you hold it for 3-sec |
| 02:35.09 | ZonE-HaKin9 | hey applebay ;) |
| 02:35.14 | ZonE-HaKin9 | D'oh |
| 02:35.35 | AppleBoy | hi ZonE-HaKin9 |
| 02:37.55 | alandd | ZonE-HaKin9, Excellent! I'll go try that. I loaded 3.5.2 and it does not have the "sleep forever" problem but it has an annoying pause from on to responsive. |
| 02:38.39 | ZonE-HaKin9|baby | brb in 10 |
| 02:45.16 | ZonE-HaKin9 | alandd: the kernel that i posted is fast like it say's... i just don't hold the arror key down and i installed my cardfs on home if you are going to try it |
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| 03:00.19 | alandd | ZonE-HaKin9, I'm to afraid of the warning that goes with "fast" so I'll try the non-fast one first. |
| 03:03.23 | alandd | ZonE-HaKin9|afk, do I need the updater.sh on the CF card? Looking for the answer myself now... |
| 03:06.43 | alandd | Answer: Does not work without updater.sh |
| 03:08.37 | alandd | ZonE-HaKin9|afk, Running the update |
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| 04:51.54 | alandd | I cannot ssh to my zaurus. It asks for a user name and password. I don't know what the passwords are! The regular user is zaurus, I believe but after that, I am lost. |
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| 06:06.10 | wood | im stunned about how my zaurus wont connect to my home network |
| 06:06.21 | wood | i have tried so many things |
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| 06:07.50 | AvengerMoJo | hi :) |
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| 06:22.01 | wood | open zaurus effing sucks |
| 06:22.19 | AvengerMoJo | ... |
| 06:22.57 | damian | wassup? |
| 06:23.15 | wood | why is it so hard to connect an access point |
| 06:23.38 | damian | mine was easy, once I had made sure I had the correct drivers for the lan card |
| 06:24.04 | AvengerMoJo | is there any kernel source around? |
| 06:24.07 | damian | just went to settings->network, wlan0 properties then scanned for the ap |
| 06:24.28 | wood | wireless is built in on the 6000l |
| 06:25.30 | damian | does it scan for access points? |
| 06:26.09 | wood | i use gpe |
| 06:26.11 | damian | i didnt have to touch any config files, just did it all through the gui |
| 06:26.12 | wood | it doesnt have that option |
| 06:26.20 | damian | im on opie |
| 06:26.29 | damian | on a 5500 with a cf wifi card |
| 06:26.42 | wood | i hate gpe |
| 06:27.01 | damian | i didnt like gpe cos it doesnt have a good browser |
| 06:27.01 | wood | fuck openzaurus |
| 06:27.05 | wood | this bullshit os |
| 06:27.12 | damian | keep it clean |
| 06:27.35 | wood | im just amazed man |
| 06:27.46 | wood | how it will nnever find an AP |
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| 08:47.10 | alan | hi ! |
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| 11:06.46 | HCl | can someone enlighten me to what to do when i want to install 3.5.3 on my collie ? do i have to take the kernel/zImage from the upgrades branch with the image of the normal install...? |
| 11:19.14 | OSS542 | Regarding OZ 3.5.4 bitbake targets for C3000 and gpe, would these be : pivotboot-image gpe-image and zImage ? |
| 11:24.09 | OSS542 | perhaps not zImage....perhaps gpe-image takes care of that |
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| 13:08.27 | lardman | HCI: ping |
| 13:08.34 | lardman | HCI: You still need help? |
| 13:15.29 | alan | lardman: i do... if you can, of course. |
| 13:16.21 | lardman | alan: go for it |
| 13:16.22 | alan | lardman: what are those files here ? http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE/ |
| 13:16.34 | alan | i understand there is a copy of oe.db |
| 13:16.44 | lardman | that's koen's web site |
| 13:16.44 | alan | but what are the others ? |
| 13:16.59 | lardman | I think they are snapshots from various dates for those who can#'t use monotone |
| 13:18.00 | alan | ho. I see. Do you know if i can just unpack them on top of /stuff/openembedded ? |
| 13:18.02 | HCl | lardman: sortof... |
| 13:18.13 | alan | lardman: thanks. |
| 13:18.20 | lardman | alan: np |
| 13:18.29 | lardman | HCI: where've you got to then? |
| 13:18.31 | HCl | hmm, i need to get in contact with that koen person. |
| 13:18.43 | lardman | HCI: Why's that? |
| 13:18.46 | lardman | ~seen koen |
| 13:18.51 | ibot | koen <n=koen@cl-148.ams-05.nl.sixxs.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #gpe, 1d 1h 30m 33s ago, saying: 'hey lardman '. |
| 13:18.51 | HCl | well i got oz 3.5.3 with the updated kernel on my zaurus |
| 13:18.57 | lardman | ;) |
| 13:19.03 | lardman | HCI: Yes |
| 13:19.04 | HCl | but i still have huge problems with the wlan network |
| 13:19.18 | HCl | wpa_supplicant just bailed out saying "recompile with TTLS support" |
| 13:19.20 | lardman | I don't know much about that - are you running GPE or Opie? |
| 13:19.27 | HCl | opie.. |
| 13:19.38 | lardman | koen is a GPE man for the most part |
| 13:19.40 | HCl | my university has an very annoying 802.1x network with eap/ttls |
| 13:19.48 | HCl | well its not really related to gpe or opie |
| 13:19.56 | lardman | Mine has thankfully not bothered with anything other than shared keys |
| 13:19.56 | HCl | more the network underneath |
| 13:20.21 | lardman | It would appear that you need to alter the .bb for the wpa stuff and see if you can recompile |
| 13:20.22 | HCl | i've been trying to get my zaurus to work with our 802.1x network for years |
| 13:21.03 | lardman | I don't know much about this wpa stuff I'm afraid. Do you have a build system setup? |
| 13:21.07 | HCl | i had it working at the very beginning with open1x |
| 13:21.17 | HCl | but that stopped working after a while |
| 13:21.24 | HCl | no, but i have a feeling i'll have to set one up :( |
| 13:22.32 | lardman | Try submitting a bug asking for TTLS to be added to the wpa stuff |
| 13:23.00 | lardman | Actually what machine are you running? |
| 13:23.47 | lardman | If it's a PXA machine I'll try to build it now if you want |
| 13:24.07 | lardman | though I may be building for the wrong kernel which means it won;t work - let me know |
| 13:24.41 | HCl | collie |
| 13:24.44 | HCl | sl5500 |
| 13:25.14 | HCl | where could i submit a bug report? :/ |
| 13:26.22 | lardman | http://bugs.openembedded.org/ |
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| 14:48.54 | lardman | JustinP: ping |
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| 18:35.19 | JustinP | lardman|gone: PONG |
| 18:54.26 | AppleBoy | sup JustinP ? |
| 18:58.05 | JustinP | AppleBoy: not much |
| 18:58.30 | AppleBoy | I can't wait! |
| 18:58.41 | AppleBoy | another month and I think I'll have enough money to get the super HDs |
| 18:59.10 | JustinP | fun :-) |
| 18:59.27 | JustinP | I wish I had money to spare |
| 18:59.41 | JustinP | I'm so in debt though...and I have so much I need to do with my money once I'm not just paying off debt |
| 18:59.51 | AppleBoy | I have the money right now, but I ahve a feeling I'll be needing it soon enough |
| 19:00.00 | AppleBoy | eek |
| 19:00.02 | AppleBoy | that sucks |
| 19:00.15 | JustinP | even with 2 good consulting jobs right now I'm not going to have any real money |
| 19:03.01 | AppleBoy | any good at web design? |
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| 21:17.57 | rabies | hi |
| 21:17.57 | rabies | any ideas on syncing with windows? |
| 21:27.56 | rabies | er, let me be more specific |
| 21:28.03 | rabies | im trying to connect using usb to a windows desktop |
| 21:30.57 | tubbie|busy | works sometimes for me |
| 21:31.28 | rabies | how do you do it? |
| 21:31.35 | rabies | i can do it in linux, but not in windows |
| 21:31.45 | tubbie|busy | i sync 3.3.6-pre1 opie 1.1.4 with qtopia |
| 21:31.59 | rabies | okay |
| 21:32.02 | rabies | but i mean the network side |
| 21:32.09 | rabies | i d/led qtopia |
| 21:32.11 | tubbie|busy | but sometimes the driver in windows crashes while file transport |
| 21:32.41 | tubbie|busy | just install the drivers on cd as the device is found |
| 21:33.12 | tubbie|busy | then try the options, dunno if ip or not is better |
| 21:33.14 | rabies | ah, i need those |
| 21:33.20 | rabies | can i d/l it offa website? |
| 21:33.27 | tubbie|busy | yes you need the drivers |
| 21:34.46 | tubbie|busy | which zaurus? |
| 21:34.53 | rabies | ah, found it |
| 21:34.54 | rabies | sl-5500 |
| 21:34.59 | tubbie|busy | http://www.zaurususergroup.org/UpDownload+index-req-viewdownload-cid-6.phtml |
| 21:34.59 | rabies | im downloading the installation cd |
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| 21:37.08 | rabies | thx |
| 21:37.20 | rabies | i finally got a working sd card and hentges to work...life is good :) |
| 21:37.37 | rabies | btw, you know the addy of the official OZ repository? |
| 21:38.31 | rabies | it asks in qtopia i guess |
| 21:41.16 | tubbie|busy | ??? |
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| 21:43.28 | rabies | nvm... |
| 21:43.56 | tubbie|busy | ? |
| 21:44.28 | jaku | someone use KOPI with the 3.5.3? |
| 21:44.33 | rabies | qtopia 1.7 has a section for packages |
| 21:45.42 | tubbie|busy | i dont use the more advanced qtopia technologies rabies :/ |
| 21:45.56 | rabies | i found the list on the zaurus |
| 21:46.04 | rabies | looks simple enough to use :) |
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| 21:54.00 | rabies | tubbie|busy: your driver link is broken |
| 21:54.35 | rabies | heh |
| 21:56.01 | tubbie|afk | sorry, just looked at zug |
| 21:56.11 | tubbie|afk | have to leave now |
| 21:56.14 | tubbie|afk | cu |
| 21:57.51 | rabies | later... |
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| 22:01.56 | jaku | where can i get the kmicrokdelibs_OZ for the 3.5.3? |
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