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| 00:04.57 | Archigos | any suggestions? |
| 00:06.57 | Archigos | I'm trying to update everything so I can run the rboot scripts and have Opie/GPE on the same time |
| 00:11.07 | JustinP | hehe |
| 00:11.20 | JustinP | well if you have only 500K free that's likely to be part of your problem |
| 00:13.21 | Archigos | any suggestions then? I'm using the latest Hentges (Collie) and can't seem to find the names of some of the packages I want to remove |
| 00:16.07 | Archigos | crap, it seems I somehow removed use of the touch screen so I'll have to reflash now anyway |
| 00:19.24 | JustinP | you can use the "arrow keys" to select apps |
| 00:19.31 | JustinP | and "Home" to change tabs |
| 00:19.44 | Archigos | I noticed that, but I'm reflashing anyway |
| 00:20.08 | Archigos | hopefully I'll get this all correct the first time, so I don't have to keep redoing it |
| 00:20.09 | JustinP | Archigos: I suggest actually moving root to SD instead of just installing some apps to SD |
| 00:20.32 | JustinP | I believe that hentges just installs a bunch of apps to SD.... |
| 00:20.33 | ljp | what I meant was that oe can use gcc2 only for zaurus apps. I know it's isnt built by it |
| 00:20.57 | Archigos | that's what I was trying to do with rboot (hentges moves "home/root" to SD) |
| 00:21.10 | raduga | ljp: i wouldn't want to use it for anything else, frankly. |
| 00:21.25 | JustinP | ljp: still not right. At least, not for OZ. gcc2.95 is only used for the 2.4 zaurus kernels, not the apps. |
| 00:21.49 | JustinP | ljp: although I *think* the Sharp distro type may use it for apps...but that's only token supported |
| 00:22.02 | ljp | heh. ya, meant kernel not apps |
| 00:22.09 | JustinP | Archigos: rboot is "old". I suggest altboot, which Mr. Hentges wrote. |
| 00:22.35 | Archigos | there's an rboot updated for 3.5.3 |
| 00:24.18 | JustinP | Archigos: altboot |
| 00:24.23 | JustinP | Archigos: altboot is better |
| 00:24.42 | Archigos | I've already reflashed... :) |
| 00:24.42 | JustinP | Archigos: at least IMHO. You get a menu even if you want it. :-) |
| 00:24.55 | Archigos | that works |
| 00:25.38 | Archigos | I guess I'll read more into Altboot then |
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| 01:16.04 | Archigos | if it helps out the community at all - DO NOT install network drivers to root on a Hentges rom before letting the CardFS install |
| 01:16.21 | Archigos | :) (That's what caused all the problems) Thanks for all the help JustinP |
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| 01:48.16 | Opieuser | hello al |
| 01:48.18 | Opieuser | all |
| 01:48.34 | Opieuser | I have some questions about installing vlc on a SL5600 |
| 01:48.39 | Opieuser | can I get any help? |
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| 05:31.27 | z-akita | anyone knows any midi player for z? |
| 05:36.11 | ljp | not really. it has no midi device, so you would need something like http://timidity.sourceforge.net/ |
| 05:41.10 | z-akita | is it in oe? |
| 05:41.31 | z-akita | timidity not in OE :( |
| 05:49.19 | z-akita | timidity can't work... in oz... need alsa... |
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| 06:10.49 | ljp | old version doesnt need alsa |
| 06:11.11 | ljp | you might even find one built for the sharp zurus |
| 06:11.14 | ljp | zaurus |
| 06:30.42 | z-akita | ljp: u know anything about little john palmos |
| 06:33.43 | ljp | very little |
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| 08:19.46 | eccerr0r | oh my. |
| 08:20.02 | eccerr0r | /dev/mixer cant be opened when /dev/dsp is opened on poodle?! |
| 08:20.14 | hrw|work | dont know |
| 08:20.24 | eccerr0r | how about collie? |
| 08:20.26 | hrw|work | morning eccerr0r |
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| 08:20.35 | eccerr0r | good morning. |
| 08:20.50 | hrw|work | I dont know at all - any zaurus |
| 08:21.33 | eccerr0r | hmm. Basically when I have opie-mediaplayer running, the taskbar volume control does not work |
| 08:21.51 | eccerr0r | I have to quit out of opie-mediaplayer to change volume. |
| 08:22.47 | hrw|work | let me check on husky |
| 08:22.55 | eccerr0r | something is wrong with this... I must be sending directly to the audio device instead of the sound daemon (ao?) |
| 08:25.02 | eccerr0r | I recall the sharp rom I could change the volume, so this is an artifact of oz or maybe I broke my kernel without knowing about it... |
| 08:25.57 | eccerr0r | Also, seems poodle sound does not support the SOUND_MIXER_READ_RECSRC ioctl... had to comment it out to get aumix to work |
| 08:27.36 | eccerr0r | anyway my poodle is still nothing more than a toy, still unuseable as a pda :-( |
| 08:27.45 | hrw|work | because? |
| 08:28.10 | eccerr0r | suspend/resume can oops the kernel, but it's not repeatable |
| 08:28.29 | eccerr0r | it's an rmmod that eventually oopses. |
| 08:29.10 | eccerr0r | well, it's not specifically the oopsing that's bad, it's the subsequent crash/reboot... but that's not bad either... it's when I lose time of day - now THAT's bad. |
| 08:29.50 | hrw|work | all pxa zauruses have that problem - lack of RTC |
| 08:30.08 | eccerr0r | yeah. So need to eliminate the crashing... |
| 08:30.49 | eccerr0r | I can't tell what module it's trying to remove when it oopses, that would be a good start... hmm. |
| 08:31.09 | eccerr0r | there should be a ksymoops that works with arm-linux? |
| 08:32.09 | eccerr0r | I should have the symbol table somewhere... also I need to make it syslog to SD or something I don't care about syncing every line :) |
| 08:32.11 | hrw|work | btw sound volume - on husky/2.6 situation is the same |
| 08:32.19 | eccerr0r | ahh. |
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| 08:32.36 | hrw|work | eccerr0r: change syslog initscript to make it log into file |
| 08:32.50 | hrw|work | and for symbol table - copy System.map from kernel builddir |
| 08:32.53 | eccerr0r | right, it's disabled because it will wearout the flash :) |
| 08:33.18 | hrw|work | and usually noone need system logs on pda |
| 08:33.19 | eccerr0r | I think my priority right now is finding out the suspend/resume issues. Then maybe I'll see if I can get the sound driver reentrant... |
| 08:33.30 | XorA | eccerr0r: or invest in a serial cable and dump messages out of serial port |
| 08:33.46 | eccerr0r | yeah that would work too, lol. |
| 08:34.00 | eccerr0r | thinking about hacking the docking station with a DB9... |
| 08:34.20 | XorA | eccerr0r: wish huisky had docking station would make life easier |
| 08:35.06 | eccerr0r | husky also started with a 2.4 kernel from sharp? |
| 08:35.12 | XorA | eccerr0r: yes |
| 08:35.30 | XorA | eccerr0r: and it still has the old sound driver, RP hasnt finished a re-write yet |
| 08:35.47 | eccerr0r | must be that sharp is using a usermode multiplexor. |
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| 08:40.04 | alan|home | hi! |
| 08:40.20 | XorA | yo alan|home |
| 08:40.28 | alan|home | i'm happy : it's week end 'till wenesday (^^)' |
| 08:40.32 | alan|home | yo XorA ! |
| 08:40.41 | XorA | lucky you |
| 08:40.57 | alan|home | hehe... working at night has some good points. ^^ |
| 09:10.29 | alan|home | mmm... how do you crate a Package index file ? |
| 09:10.36 | alan|home | create* |
| 09:11.44 | hrw|work | ipkg-make-index |
| 09:12.08 | hrw|work | or rebuild bootstrap-image |
| 09:12.21 | alan|home | niarf... i did "ipkg make index"... thanks hrw |
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| 09:46.46 | alan|home | hrw|work: is there any way to do this from the zaurus ? (just curiosity...) |
| 09:56.24 | hrw|work | no |
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| 13:23.42 | lardman|work | How do I disable ipv6? I was trying to connect to a hotspot, and although ifconfig showed wlan0 having in ipv6 address (does this happen by default?), it started moaning about there being no ipv6 router available |
| 13:24.05 | XorA | lardman|work: thats all fine and normnal operation |
| 13:24.14 | lardman|work | Really? Oh |
| 13:24.44 | lardman|work | So there must be something else wrong to srop me from having obtained a lease then? |
| 13:24.52 | XorA | does that on ever interface on all my linux machines |
| 13:25.06 | XorA | lardman|work: yes, more likely your not associated |
| 13:25.26 | lardman|work | What does that mean? |
| 13:25.44 | lardman|work | It said in dmesg that I was connected, I assume it would obtain a lease then...? |
| 13:26.04 | XorA | lardman|work: I have also found udhcpc to be unreliable |
| 13:26.17 | XorA | lardman|work: I would try and re-run it with udhcpc -i wlan0 |
| 13:26.44 | lardman|work | XorA: Okay, at least I know where to look then, thanks |
| 13:26.55 | lardman|work | Sep 14 12:11:24 c7x0 local0.info udhcpc[6052]: No lease, forking to background. |
| 13:27.13 | XorA | lardman|work: It seems after forking to background it stops asking :-( |
| 13:27.32 | lardman|work | XorA: I think it wakes up after a little while and tries again |
| 13:28.01 | XorA | lardman|work: maybe, but it takes longer than my patience |
| 13:28.19 | lardman|work | XorA: I'll have to look into the delays it uses & how fast it expects a reply, etc - the AP was busy, lots of people with laptops around |
| 13:29.08 | XorA | lardman|work: another stupid thing I have done occasionally is have firewall on and dhcp replies cant get through |
| 13:30.56 | lardman|work | XorA: I switched to Opie as I needed good power management for the conference |
| 13:31.17 | XorA | lardman|work: what does it offer over gpe? |
| 13:32.04 | lardman|work | pm is far better - backlight control for one thing (which is broken for GPE with 2.6.13-mm1 -> you can't echo a value into the sysfs files, if you do, the backlight goes off for good) |
| 13:32.34 | lardman|work | plus I've not had a chance to look at ipaq-sleep and I wanted the finer granularity which Opie offers |
| 13:32.47 | hrw|work | heh.. wifi and dhcp.. at home (where only I use wifi) I'm unable to connect Z<>WRT54 - have to disable wep to get connection (keys are set good) |
| 13:33.40 | XorA | hrw|work: wierd, I connect Z to WRT54 at work |
| 13:34.13 | XorA | lardman|work: ah yes, that but, that one hurts, but hopefully RP is right and its fixed |
| 13:34.39 | lardman|work | What was the issue with pcmcia now then? |
| 13:34.50 | XorA | lardman|work: its changing target |
| 13:35.00 | lardman|work | hrw|work: That might have been my problem too I suppose - difficult to know isn't it |
| 13:35.08 | lardman|work | XorA: Does it work though? |
| 13:35.17 | hrw|work | lardman|work: it is |
| 13:35.39 | hrw|work | lardman|work: anyway I plan to upgrade my wrt54 to newer openwrt so will have to change some things soon |
| 13:35.47 | XorA | lardman|work: I havent got kernel on machine yet |
| 13:35.53 | XorA | lardman|work: but it works well in mm1 |
| 13:36.30 | lardman|work | XorA: Yep, but mm1 has the backlight problem |
| 13:37.14 | XorA | lardman|work: Ive been using the hotplug pcmcia anyway |
| 13:37.46 | lardman|work | I'm happy to move back, but just want to make sure I'm not heading for a broken kernel |
| 13:38.16 | XorA | lardman|work: Ill let you know next week :-) |
| 13:40.06 | lardman|work | XorA: Well, I may as well bake a gpe-image and give it a go over the weekend if I've got time |
| 13:59.25 | XorA | ~lart libtool for being crap |
| 14:23.36 | alan|home | there is something i don't understand : i built my own 3.5.4pre, every kernel module in my new feed is a 2.6.13-mm1 but the build works on a 2.6.12-mm1... i installed the 2.6.13-mm1 kernel, but now i don't know how to boot on this kernel... I'm sure it's as simple as a syslink, but i need some help. Plus i really wonder why the build doesn't run a 2.6.13 kernel... |
| 14:39.50 | XorA | alan|home: you need to flash new kernel |
| 14:43.25 | alan|home | XorA: Oo ?? |
| 14:44.22 | XorA | alan|home: like you flashed originally, but only the kernel |
| 14:44.40 | XorA | zImage.bin |
| 14:45.31 | alan|home | and how do i get this zImage.bin ? Mine was made in the same time as the rest of my feed, with the same sources ? |
| 14:46.06 | XorA | tmp/deploy/images |
| 14:48.16 | alan|home | XorA: i know that... that is why i'm puzzled... tmp/deploy/image and tmp/deploy/ipk were made in the same time... why is the image using a 2.6.13 kernel when all the feed uses a 2.6.13 ? |
| 14:48.42 | alan|home | grrr... i mean the image uses a 2.6.12.... |
| 14:49.59 | alan|home | and i reflashed the all zaurus with the content of /tmp/deploy/image : the initrd, the zImage and the update.sh... |
| 14:53.18 | alan|home | so i installed kernel_2.6.13-mm1-r5_c7x0.ipk on the Z from my personnal feed, but i don't know how to boot it... looks like it's something i can't do... |
| 14:53.33 | lardman|work | that's not the same as flashing the kernel you know |
| 14:54.20 | lardman|work | after you flashed with initrd.bin, zImage.bin & updater.sh, did your Z boot up? |
| 14:54.33 | alan|home | yep |
| 14:54.44 | lardman|work | and uname -r gave 2.6.12-something? |
| 14:54.54 | alan|home | yep |
| 14:55.08 | lardman|work | what's in tmp/rootfs/lib/modules/ ? |
| 14:56.22 | alan|home | mmm... i only have /tmp/rootfs/dev |
| 14:56.36 | lardman|work | in which case the initrd.bin can't have been built |
| 14:57.05 | lardman|work | unless you're running a 'bitbake *-image' right now? |
| 14:58.20 | alan|home | lardman|work: there is really something wrong with that : before i built the image (with bitbake gpe-image), i erased build/tmp/* |
| 14:59.17 | lardman|work | Yeah, sounds odd - can you run bitbake gpe-image now and see whether it produces an initrd.bin? |
| 14:59.46 | alan|home | so i flashed a zImage-2.6.13-mm1-c7x0-20050912100357.bin |
| 15:00.13 | alan|home | lardman|work: ok, but my cpu is quite slow... it might take some time. |
| 15:00.31 | lardman|work | it shouldn't take long |
| 15:00.37 | lardman|work | as most of it has already been built |
| 15:00.46 | alan|home | yeah. |
| 15:02.48 | alan|home | rhaa... the caching process is so sloooow.... |
| 15:03.22 | lardman|work | :) |
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| 15:20.52 | alan|home | ok, let's reflash... |
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| 15:25.10 | alan|home | ok... it works... i must have missed something during the previous flash... |
| 15:25.27 | alan|home | maybe i ùmissnamed the zImage.bin |
| 15:45.07 | lardman|work | alan|away: glad you got it fixed |
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| 15:49.52 | eccerr0r | hmm... forcing mpg321 to use libao, I can use the volume applet. Now need to somehow make opieplayer2 do the same |
| 15:50.52 | hrw|work | s/opieplayer2/libxine probably |
| 15:52.19 | eccerr0r | should be using it by default though... |
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| 16:08.04 | tuxoverflow | good day to yah |
| 16:08.16 | tuxoverflow | jsut followed instructions for dual boot |
| 16:08.19 | tuxoverflow | works great |
| 16:08.29 | tuxoverflow | i have a gpe image for gpsdrive |
| 16:08.49 | tuxoverflow | and opie image for general use |
| 16:09.02 | tuxoverflow | one problem!! though always one ey! |
| 16:09.40 | tuxoverflow | my machine sometimes doenst start when its been in suspend so i guess it requires the new kernel |
| 16:09.51 | tuxoverflow | can i not install the new kernel as a ipkg |
| 16:10.01 | tuxoverflow | do i have to flas the kernel |
| 16:10.16 | tuxoverflow | flash the kernel |
| 16:14.16 | raduga | kernels must be flashed |
| 16:14.33 | raduga | as the kernel doesn't sit in the standard filesystem |
| 16:15.18 | raduga | any C1k or C3k people here? |
| 16:15.27 | raduga | (er. any awake?) |
| 16:15.41 | tuxoverflow | ah just found the post i neededim trying upgrade a clean install 64 then make a image of this |
| 16:15.58 | tuxoverflow | but run out of space - you have to remove all the feeds |
| 16:15.58 | z-akita | i have c1000 |
| 16:16.01 | tuxoverflow | sorted |
| 16:16.13 | raduga | z-akita: from your nick... I'd guess that ;) |
| 16:16.19 | raduga | are you running OZ? |
| 16:17.36 | tuxoverflow | anyone got sl6000 |
| 16:18.32 | tuxoverflow | i fancy one thats all |
| 16:18.47 | z-akita | raduga: building new opie-image |
| 16:18.48 | raduga | not here. |
| 16:19.04 | raduga | tux: why the sl6k particularly? |
| 16:19.25 | raduga | z-akita: i'm using Hentges base, but poking around at some modules. |
| 16:20.07 | raduga | USB particularly. video, wifi would be nice. |
| 16:20.19 | raduga | and definitely squashfs! |
| 16:22.17 | raduga | tried zbedic, but didn't really do what I wanted it to. at the moment, just building a static HTML dump, then will compress to squashfs or whatever works the best |
| 16:22.18 | z-akita | well.. u should use the bitbake... and add hentges script... |
| 16:22.41 | raduga | z-akita: I am :) |
| 16:22.48 | raduga | well, just baking some kernel bits |
| 16:22.53 | z-akita | raduga: me tooo.... |
| 16:22.59 | raduga | I don't at the moment, need to build the whole world |
| 16:23.08 | z-akita | i'm pretty new in OE... |
| 16:23.17 | raduga | same here. |
| 16:23.28 | raduga | OE's been pretty scary the last few times I've tried to use it |
| 16:23.43 | z-akita | raduga: how do you use the hentgescvs in basic OE? |
| 16:23.49 | raduga | but seems to... be ok, once you get your feet wet. |
| 16:24.21 | raduga | z-akita: I haven't tried merging hentgescvs. I believe the docs explain it though. |
| 16:24.27 | raduga | let me have a look |
| 16:25.05 | z-akita | raduga: i'm worried hentges script will have problem with new bitbake images |
| 16:25.30 | z-akita | since its not updated so often |
| 16:30.35 | z-akita | bye raduga... |
| 16:33.58 | tuxoverflow | wow to do a dual boot its a mission |
| 16:34.24 | tuxoverflow | install gpe update to r21 kernel then do same for opie then install dual boot |
| 16:34.43 | tuxoverflow | install all packages to SD then link in both systems!! |
| 16:34.45 | tuxoverflow | coooooool |
| 16:34.56 | tuxoverflow | all this to get gps working |
| 16:35.21 | tuxoverflow | there is no working gps packages for opie crazy! |
| 16:43.10 | lardman|work | zgps should work |
| 16:43.20 | lardman|work | qpegps with an old version of gpsd...? |
| 16:58.22 | tuxoverflow | oh right |
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| 16:58.30 | tuxoverflow | qpegps with old gps |
| 16:58.33 | tuxoverflow | coool |
| 16:58.41 | tuxoverflow | that will do like |
| 16:58.49 | tuxoverflow | er is zimage the kernel? |
| 16:59.25 | lardman|work | yes, zImage(.bin) is the kernel |
| 17:00.26 | tuxoverflow | so if i get a older libgspd and gspd qpegps might work?? |
| 17:02.05 | lardman|work | I don't think it has anything to do with libgpsd does it? |
| 17:02.14 | tuxoverflow | oh right |
| 17:02.26 | tuxoverflow | just the gpsd ipk |
| 17:02.48 | lardman|work | there's a bb for gpsd-2.28 and one for 2.6 in OE |
| 17:03.06 | lardman|work | I imagine that one of them is before the change which has broken these programs |
| 17:03.10 | lardman|work | though I may be wrong |
| 17:03.39 | tuxoverflow | whats a bb? |
| 17:04.07 | lardman|work | hmm, a recipe file to use with bitbake |
| 17:04.12 | lardman|work | like a Makefile |
| 17:04.29 | tuxoverflow | ah im not that experienced |
| 17:04.31 | tuxoverflow | sorry |
| 17:04.34 | tuxoverflow | i wish i was |
| 17:04.44 | tuxoverflow | i do a lot of testing and help newbies |
| 17:04.51 | lardman|work | which version is in the feed? |
| 17:05.33 | tuxoverflow | ill take a look |
| 17:06.53 | tuxoverflow | 2.20-r1 |
| 17:07.55 | tuxoverflow | just done a uname -rv after kernel flah it reads 2.4.18-rmk7-pxa3-embedix |
| 17:08.11 | tuxoverflow | is the the r21 kernel or not? |
| 17:08.21 | tuxoverflow | looks like i flashedwrong maybe |
| 17:08.27 | lardman|work | Next thing to do is look though the various threads (both on oesf and on the gpsd ml) and see when things were broken - which version of gpsd. If it was after version 2.6, then I'd ask hrw to add it to the upgrades thread |
| 17:08.53 | tuxoverflow | ah cool ill try that |
| 17:08.57 | lardman|work | I don't know, I don't have my collie with me atm - I don't think the bersion changed though |
| 17:09.18 | lardman|work | s/bersion/version |
| 17:09.26 | tuxoverflow | ah okay it flashed for about 8 secons |
| 17:09.34 | tuxoverflow | so i guess it is |
| 17:09.37 | lardman|work | that's probably about right |
| 17:09.58 | tuxoverflow | oh it says april 2005 release |
| 17:09.59 | tuxoverflow | mm |
| 17:10.06 | tuxoverflow | yes that sounds right |
| 17:11.44 | lardman|work | what says April 2005 release? The kernel? |
| 17:11.48 | tuxoverflow | yes |
| 17:12.06 | lardman|work | that's too old then I'd have thought |
| 17:12.42 | tuxoverflow | ah |
| 17:12.58 | tuxoverflow | i updated as told on instructions |
| 17:13.08 | lardman|work | the lights were on for 8sec? |
| 17:13.14 | tuxoverflow | yes |
| 17:14.10 | tuxoverflow | i copied accross zImage-collie-64-0-20050407102515.bin and renamed to zImage on the card on its own |
| 17:14.19 | tuxoverflow | then it falshed for about 8 seconds |
| 17:14.43 | lardman|work | I just did a quick calc and it should be something like 15-20sec, 8 sec is close enough I reckon |
| 17:15.10 | lardman|work | (just looking at the file sizes, and an approximate guess at how long a complete flash takes, etc.) |
| 17:15.24 | lardman|work | see if it still exhibits the bug... |
| 17:15.35 | lardman|work | try suspending with the on/off button |
| 17:15.39 | tuxoverflow | is that the right file kernel file zImage-collie-64-0-20050407102515.bin |
| 17:15.48 | lardman|work | hang on |
| 17:16.29 | lardman|work | http://openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.3/upgrades/collie/zImage-collie-64-0-r21.bin |
| 17:16.34 | lardman|work | so no, it wasn't |
| 17:16.41 | tuxoverflow | or this kernel_2.4.18-rmk7-pxa3-embedix-r21_collie.ipk |
| 17:16.54 | lardman|work | you've upgraded the kernel modules I assume |
| 17:17.08 | tuxoverflow | yes i have |
| 17:17.21 | lardman|work | rename & flash the zimage I've linked above |
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| 17:17.34 | tuxoverflow | ok cheers |
| 17:17.37 | lardman|work | np |
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| 17:23.04 | tuxoverflow | yes june 2005 |
| 17:23.09 | tuxoverflow | wicked cheers |
| 17:23.15 | tuxoverflow | now to make a image |
| 17:25.03 | lardman|work | night all |
| 17:25.58 | tuxoverflow | cheers |
| 18:00.34 | alan|away | niargg... i still can't send files over IR... |
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| 18:14.21 | alan|away | strange : it works with a t610, and not with a sagem my X7... wich nevertheless is recognized as such... i guess it it comes from the phone... |
| 18:14.59 | alan|away | correction : it's a my X5 2. |
| 18:19.57 | tuxoverflow | i have a small script i want to run at boot were is the place to put this so it loads at boot |
| 18:20.22 | tuxoverflow | in init.d |
| 18:25.27 | tuxoverflow | can i our the script in innit tab to run at boot? |
| 18:34.39 | tuxoverflow | can i add the path to the script IE /media/card/swap/swap.sh to start script at boot? |
| 18:35.11 | tuxoverflow | made a swap file ram file |
| 18:35.18 | tuxoverflow | coooooool |
| 18:36.06 | JustinP | pff |
| 18:36.15 | JustinP | swap-in-ram is pretty much useless |
| 18:36.36 | JustinP | although it may be fun to do it ;-) |
| 18:36.46 | tuxoverflow | oh right |
| 18:36.55 | tuxoverflow | swap on ram file on sd card |
| 18:37.09 | tuxoverflow | i mean |
| 18:37.13 | JustinP | ram file on sd card? that makes no sense |
| 18:37.20 | tuxoverflow | why? |
| 18:37.24 | JustinP | swap on a file on your sd card makes sense |
| 18:37.30 | tuxoverflow | yes |
| 18:37.34 | JustinP | ram cannot be a file on storage |
| 18:37.43 | JustinP | swap can |
| 18:37.49 | raduga | your SD card almost certainly contains no SDRAM |
| 18:37.53 | raduga | or DRAM of any sort. |
| 18:38.03 | tuxoverflow | yes i make a ram file andmount it to loop |
| 18:38.13 | tuxoverflow | then mount to swap |
| 18:38.14 | raduga | what is a ram file? |
| 18:38.32 | tuxoverflow | read write ram file on the sd card! |
| 18:38.58 | raduga | its an rw file then. |
| 18:39.14 | tuxoverflow | yes but file is formatted swap |
| 18:39.28 | tuxoverflow | how can i start script at boot |
| 18:40.36 | JustinP | that would be a "swap file", not a "ram file" |
| 18:40.47 | JustinP | there is no such thing as a "ram file" |
| 18:40.54 | tuxoverflow | okee |
| 18:41.01 | JustinP | add the swap to your fstab to get it to mount at boot |
| 18:41.09 | tuxoverflow | ah ok |
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| 19:00.10 | eccerr0r | still running no swap with my poodle... |
| 19:00.18 | eccerr0r | haven't had any oom conditions yet |
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| 19:22.45 | emeteo | hi |
| 19:23.40 | emeteo | is there some way to fsck.ext2 an SD filesystem before mounting it ? |
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| 19:35.05 | dracflamloc | hello there |
| 19:35.10 | dracflamloc | does oz have an ebook reader? |
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| 19:39.13 | Opieuser | hello all. My Zaurus does not suspend. What exactly do you do if you want to put the Zaurus to sleep? |
| 19:46.00 | dracflamloc | Opieuser, dunno, i still dont have one! =( |
| 19:46.33 | Opieuser | I do not know if I made a mistake buying the Zaurus |
| 19:47.02 | Opieuser | My old Palm VIIx would run for weeks on 2 AA cells. |
| 19:47.21 | Opieuser | I am not very thrilled about the 10hr battery life on the Zaurus |
| 19:48.03 | dracflamloc | its actually pretty good for a color screen |
| 19:48.06 | dracflamloc | sadly thats a drawback |
| 19:48.16 | dracflamloc | i too loved my old palm V because of the long battery life |
| 19:48.27 | dracflamloc | sadly these days you probably wont find that in anything but the palm zire 21 |
| 19:50.48 | eccerr0r | backlighting and a (relatively) high speed cpu costs power... |
| 19:51.18 | Opieuser | The other concern is the instant on/off on the old palms |
| 19:51.20 | eccerr0r | my HP200LX was my old palmtop - there I had a higher resolution screen and higher battery life. |
| 19:51.38 | dracflamloc | hm |
| 19:51.38 | Opieuser | I like the on/off on the Palm |
| 19:51.50 | Opieuser | I have not figured out how to do that on the Zaurus |
| 19:51.51 | dracflamloc | yea it was also very tiny |
| 19:53.01 | eccerr0r | suspend/resume usually works fine for me. apm --suspend, select suspend on menu... I'm sorta hesitant on using the usual method of holding the power button down now though. |
| 19:54.17 | Opieuser | eccerr0r, did you have to install the apm package? |
| 19:54.56 | eccerr0r | I didn't... |
| 19:55.13 | eccerr0r | I hacked my kernel to fix the rightarrow bug though. |
| 19:56.36 | Opieuser | What is the right arrow bug? |
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| 19:57.35 | eccerr0r | press and hold down right arrow on an "old" openzaurus kernel... |
| 19:57.49 | Opieuser | and ? |
| 19:57.55 | Opieuser | What is supposed to happen? |
| 19:58.09 | eccerr0r | should move your cursor right indefinately, shouldn't it? |
| 19:58.16 | tuxoverflow | strange ever since upgrading to new kernel - wireless acting strange - like light falshing not getting good signal any ideas |
| 19:58.28 | eccerr0r | watch what happens to the poodle... |
| 19:58.48 | eccerr0r | yeah I had that issue too sorta. killing my wep key seems to make it slightly better. |
| 19:58.59 | tuxoverflow | ah |
| 19:59.04 | eccerr0r | OZ poodle kernel is in really bad shape. |
| 19:59.08 | tuxoverflow | not good killing wep though |
| 19:59.29 | eccerr0r | well, disabling wep for a while. |
| 19:59.38 | tuxoverflow | it like fixes lock up on standby but breaks wep |
| 19:59.44 | tuxoverflow | mad |
| 19:59.46 | Opieuser | eccerr0r, any luck in installing the VLC playuer |
| 19:59.50 | Opieuser | Any media player? |
| 20:00.02 | eccerr0r | nope never tried. all i have is opieplayer2 installed. |
| 20:00.39 | tuxoverflow | no other fixes then eh just disable wep |
| 20:00.46 | tuxoverflow | ill take a look on forums |
| 20:00.48 | tuxoverflow | bummer |
| 20:00.55 | eccerr0r | just disabled it temporarily |
| 20:01.06 | eccerr0r | then reenabled it... not sure what I did. |
| 20:01.16 | tuxoverflow | oh right |
| 20:01.50 | tuxoverflow | nope never worked |
| 20:01.53 | eccerr0r | not exactly sure whats going on with it. The current -latest repository doesn't match what's in 3.5.3 for the most part. |
| 20:02.03 | tuxoverflow | what disablw wep and remove card |
| 20:02.13 | tuxoverflow | then out card in re enable?? |
| 20:02.20 | Opieuser | What formats does opieplayer2 play? |
| 20:02.40 | eccerr0r | seems that way, had to fiddle with it a bit. |
| 20:03.57 | emeteo | where is saved the ipk files that are downloaded with ipkg install ? |
| 20:04.05 | tuxoverflow | yer it corrupts the SSID |
| 20:04.15 | tuxoverflow | bloody ell |
| 20:04.39 | emeteo | I got space out on an ipkg upgrade |
| 20:12.04 | JustinP | emeteo: yes, you can fsck your SD before mounting it. altboot supports this, actually |
| 20:12.30 | emeteo | altboot?, I'll search something about this |
| 20:13.31 | JustinP | it's on the hentges site |
| 20:14.33 | tuxoverflow | card fs is pretty good |
| 20:14.37 | tuxoverflow | on hentges site |
| 20:14.59 | tuxoverflow | i dual boot with altboot |
| 20:15.10 | tuxoverflow | i use gpe and zaurus |
| 20:16.32 | JustinP | perhaps you mean gpe and opie? |
| 20:19.20 | tuxoverflow | yes sorry |
| 20:19.26 | tuxoverflow | goin back to hentges |
| 20:19.36 | tuxoverflow | this wep probel is poor |
| 20:20.50 | tuxoverflow | problem sorry |
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| 20:33.08 | tuxoverflow | just hope hentges has fixed kernel without wep problem |
| 20:33.26 | tuxoverflow | its a pain one or the other!!! |
| 20:34.09 | tuxoverflow | were can i buy a sl6000 |
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| 20:44.30 | btwotch | hi |
| 20:45.14 | btwotch | how can I remove openzaurus? |
| 20:48.58 | btwotch | can't somebody help? I am not able to start my zaurus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 |
| 20:57.10 | JustinP | did OZ run at some point? |
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| 20:57.38 | btwotch | JustinP: yeah, it worked well |
| 20:57.46 | JustinP | so what happened? |
| 20:59.41 | btwotch | the zaurus crashed and now I am not able to hard reset or anything else |
| 20:59.45 | btwotch | I know |
| 21:04.16 | btwotch | Can you help? |
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| 21:11.27 | JustinP | btwotch: crashed how? |
| 21:11.33 | JustinP | btwotch: have you tried charging it? |
| 21:12.01 | raduga | justinp: shouldn't some lights appear on the 5500 when charging? |
| 21:12.08 | btwotch | JustinP: not possible, the led doesn't light. |
| 21:12.13 | btwotch | ok. |
| 21:12.19 | raduga | I've never had a collie/poodle, I don't know what their behaviour would be. |
| 21:12.47 | JustinP | btwotch: how did it "crash"? |
| 21:12.53 | JustinP | raduga: yes, lights should come on |
| 21:13.16 | btwotch | JustinP: First I made mkfs.ext2 /dev/mtdblock3; mount /dev/mtdblock3 /media/ram |
| 21:13.21 | btwotch | and then: reboot |
| 21:13.33 | JustinP | btwotch: that's what you did? |
| 21:13.42 | btwotch | yeah |
| 21:13.53 | JustinP | btwotch: why were you formatting the mtdblocks? you shouldn't do that |
| 21:14.22 | btwotch | JustinP: there wasn't any fs on it. |
| 21:14.32 | JustinP | btwotch: why did you format it? |
| 21:14.39 | btwotch | only the fourth was mounted on / |
| 21:14.43 | JustinP | you shouldn't play around with the flash like that |
| 21:14.45 | btwotch | I need space |
| 21:14.54 | JustinP | you should use an SD card |
| 21:15.00 | JustinP | you've probably killed your zaurus |
| 21:15.23 | JustinP | you can *try* to reflash it, but I think you may have overwritten the flashin software |
| 21:15.42 | btwotch | JustinP: It must be a SD-card? |
| 21:16.08 | JustinP | btwotch: or a CF card. What else would you use? SD is best because the doesn't get ejected on suspend like CF |
| 21:16.33 | btwotch | JustinP: And what have I to do with this card? |
| 21:16.42 | btwotch | JustinP: the oz installation-instruction? |
| 21:17.10 | JustinP | btwotch: like I said you've probably killed your Zaurus. Try re-flashing. |
| 21:17.24 | JustinP | btwotch: but if the light doesn't come on when you've plugged it in I don't think it's going to work. |
| 21:17.38 | JustinP | btwotch: you'll have to send it back to Sharp to get it fixed |
| 21:19.00 | raduga | how would Sharp fix it? JTAG? |
| 21:21.15 | btwotch | they change the flash-card. |
| 21:21.16 | raduga | btwotch: tell us, what was in /dev/mtdblock/3 ? |
| 21:21.32 | raduga | before you formatted it? |
| 21:21.44 | btwotch | raduga: I couldn't mount it. |
| 21:22.30 | raduga | but what was present in that flash partition? |
| 21:22.37 | btwotch | raduga: lost+found |
| 21:23.08 | btwotch | after formatting and before, I didn't care. |
| 21:24.43 | JustinP | btwotch: you shouldn't be playing with flash partitions you don't know anything about |
| 21:25.08 | JustinP | btwotch: I'm positive that was internal memory used for things like flashing |
| 21:25.08 | btwotch | JustinP: I didn't know, that it was flash, because mtdblock4 was mounted on / (rw) |
| 21:25.26 | JustinP | btwotch: and the zaurii use Flash for their filesystems... |
| 21:25.40 | btwotch | JustinP: jffs2 |
| 21:25.45 | btwotch | or something like that |
| 21:26.00 | JustinP | btwotch: that's the FS, yes, but it's mounted on flash |
| 21:26.03 | btwotch | but: mtdblock7 (I think) worked well. |
| 21:26.06 | JustinP | btwotch: try reflashing your kernel |
| 21:26.26 | JustinP | btwotch: don't format or use flash partitions like that |
| 21:26.39 | btwotch | JustinP: you think about: copy the kernel and the initrd to the card. Start and press C and D ? |
| 21:26.41 | JustinP | btwotch: heh...if you formatted mor eof them (like 7) then you're probably SOL |
| 21:26.41 | raduga | btwotch: what other flash partitions did you format? |
| 21:26.57 | JustinP | btwotch: yes, that. But do only the kerne, not the initrd |
| 21:27.03 | JustinP | btwotch: yes, did you format any others? |
| 21:27.03 | btwotch | raduga: I think it was number 7. |
| 21:27.14 | JustinP | btwotch: 6 is the flashing program |
| 21:27.19 | btwotch | JustinP: yep, and that one worked. |
| 21:27.30 | JustinP | btwotch: you're fscked then |
| 21:27.31 | alan|away | good night ! |
| 21:27.44 | JustinP | btwotch: 6 was the flashing software, so you can't reflash now. 3 was your kernel. |
| 21:28.10 | JustinP | well...6 may not be the flashing... |
| 21:28.17 | JustinP | try reflashing the kernel |
| 21:28.19 | JustinP | see if it works |
| 21:28.52 | raduga | btwotch: how long ago did you get your Zaurus? and from whom did you buy it? |
| 21:29.40 | btwotch | JustinP: but rebooting was possible after the first-flash-format |
| 21:29.55 | btwotch | raduga: I buied it 2 days ago at ebay :-) |
| 21:30.05 | JustinP | btwotch: because you overwrote the *flashing* info... |
| 21:30.32 | btwotch | JustinP: does a mmc card work as well as a sd-card? |
| 21:30.42 | JustinP | btwotch: try a reflash, but my guess is that you're going to have to send it to Sharp for JTAG stuff |
| 21:30.50 | JustinP | btwotch: sure....if your zaurus boots.... |
| 21:31.11 | btwotch | JustinP: flash doesn't work. |
| 21:31.45 | btwotch | why can't I boot via CD? (This would be great) |
| 21:32.03 | JustinP | btwotch: you're joking, right? |
| 21:32.18 | btwotch | JustinP: this is what you do, when you killed your mbr. |
| 21:32.26 | JustinP | btwotch: your last possibility is flashing using the Sharp OSPACK and your sync cradle |
| 21:32.33 | JustinP | btwotch: do you see a CD drive on your Zaurus? |
| 21:32.34 | btwotch | ok, you can kill your bios, too |
| 21:32.46 | JustinP | btwotch: and you basically killed your BIOS |
| 21:33.02 | btwotch | JustinP: Where is this OSPACK? |
| 21:33.15 | JustinP | btwotch: go searching |
| 21:33.17 | btwotch | JustinP: on CD I didn't found anything. |
| 21:33.33 | JustinP | btwotch: pretty sure it's on there. you may have to download it, though |
| 21:34.23 | btwotch | JustinP: ok, I am downloading. |
| 21:35.06 | btwotch | and where is the difference between cf/sd and cradle-flashing? |
| 21:35.38 | JustinP | you're going to have to figure it out. I don't have a collie any more and never had to use th eospack |
| 21:38.08 | tubbie|home | btwotch, do not use craddle for flashing OSPACK. It is dangerous since OSPACK flashes the bootloader too, so if you loose usb connection while flashing, you may destroy your device |
| 21:38.09 | btwotch | JustinP: what do you think, how much have I to pay in a sharp-shop for this new flash-chip? |
| 21:38.20 | tubbie|home | use CF for flashing |
| 21:38.33 | raduga | btwotch: likely more than you paid for the Zaurus on eBay |
| 21:38.47 | btwotch | tubbie|home: good idead |
| 21:38.57 | btwotch | raduga: i thought so. |
| 21:39.08 | raduga | Assuming you can find a Sharp repair shop that still works on these devices. |
| 21:39.30 | JustinP | tubbie|home: try reading the whole conversation before talking |
| 21:39.45 | JustinP | tubbie|home: he erased his bootloader by formatting mtdblocks willy-willy |
| 21:39.48 | raduga | the 5500 is old. Its no longer in production, and many of the custom parts are no longer available. |
| 21:40.39 | JustinP | btwotch: you can't use CF for flashing any more. The OSPACK is your last option before sending back to Sharp. And I suspect it will be $50-$100. Or more. It's not parts, it's just a manual reflash which they can do. |
| 21:40.54 | btwotch | great success, 2 days and ... |
| 21:41.06 | JustinP | btwotch: well you shouldn't have been playing with internals like that |
| 21:41.41 | btwotch | JustinP: I got a flash from nokia for my mobile, and I paid only ~20$ |
| 21:41.46 | JustinP | like someone I once knew who deleted C:\COMMAND.COM because he didn't need it. You just don't go playing with things you don't understand. |
| 21:42.07 | JustinP | btwotch: ::shrug:: so go ahead and call Sharp |
| 21:42.14 | btwotch | and why is mtdblock4 mounted on /? |
| 21:42.22 | JustinP | because that's how it works |
| 21:42.45 | JustinP | btwotch: http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-mtd/2002-April/004739.html |
| 21:42.52 | btwotch | i wrote an email |
| 21:45.26 | tubbie|home | JustinP, I was following the thread. I was hoping that OSPACK maybe restore the flashing partition |
| 21:46.37 | tubbie|home | and JustinP, please to not try to prohibit the talk of people, when they are just rying to help, thx |
| 21:47.46 | JustinP | tubbie|home: ah...you meant to use OSPACK on the CF. I misread you, sorry. He should actually try both if one doesn't work. After all the Z is dead anyway. |
| 21:49.00 | tubbie|home | np justin, sorry for my wording. A possibly bricked device makes us all nervos I assume |
| 21:49.37 | JustinP | tubbie|home: well, it's already bricked.... |
| 21:51.14 | tubbie|home | Trisoft helped also sometimes with bricked devices, should be worth to write them an email before contacting sharp |
| 22:00.25 | dracflamloc | hi |
| 22:04.00 | dracflamloc | darn i was outbid on the zaurus =) |
| 22:04.02 | dracflamloc | =( |
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| 22:22.54 | NickNak_ | anyone know why my cf card gets 'ejected' and remounted when the Z resumes from suspended state? |
| 22:23.54 | JustinP | because that's how it works |
| 22:24.04 | JustinP | nothing you can do about it (AFAIK) |
| 22:25.16 | NickNak_ | shame - it adds several seconds delay before the Z is useable |
| 22:26.12 | eccerr0r | some wifi/cf cards dont suspend/resume properly... |
| 22:26.24 | eccerr0r | that's the workaround... |
| 22:29.56 | NickNak_ | why doesn't it happen every suspend/resume? (only about 75% here) |
| 22:30.41 | dracflamloc | anyone have an extra pda they want to sell? |
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| 22:31.48 | Phroziac | hi |
| 22:32.43 | JustinP | NickNak_: the eject / insert happens on every suspend/resume unless you're bypassing apm (I think) |
| 22:33.33 | dracflamloc | =( |
| 22:34.13 | Phroziac | A little bit off topic, but, i'm having problems with new SD cards (bad FAT, blah blah) on my collie, with the stock sharp rom. Any possibility that OZ would work right with them? |
| 22:38.47 | NickNak_ | JustinP: Definitely not every time here. And sometimes it just ejects without reinserting. |
| 22:39.13 | NickNak_ | Maybe I've got a dodgy card? |
| 22:46.12 | JustinP | NickNak_: maybe |
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| 23:02.55 | NickNak_ | hmm using a different CF card I've done 10 suspend/resume cycles without a single eject/insert |
| 23:03.24 | JustinP | well, it *does* normally eject/insert on every suspend |
| 23:03.30 | JustinP | you just may not be seeing it |
| 23:04.27 | NickNak_ | should it eject on suspend and then insert on resume? |
| 23:04.42 | NickNak_ | what i'm seeing is eject and insert on resume |
| 23:06.11 | JustinP | dunno |
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