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| 05:45.07 | wpiku | anyone know if it's possible (yet) to dual boot sharp rom and oz? |
| 05:45.13 | wpiku | for now it seems possible due to kernel differences |
| 05:45.23 | wpiku | but I was wondering if anyone is working on a grub clone or something like it for zaurus |
| 05:45.48 | wpiku | you'd think you can just plop code for that where the original kernel is installed in flash or something |
| 05:45.52 | wpiku | I don't know how voodoo it all is |
| 05:58.48 | wpiku | I figured everyone would be sleeping ;) |
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| 12:47.00 | petya | re |
| 12:50.56 | alan|home | hi petya ! |
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| 13:40.22 | alan|home | argh ! stupid me !! i've editted the owner informations in GPE and now i can't log in anymore !!! and i didn't set the network up, so looks like i can't do anything but reflash... |
| 13:44.03 | lardman | you could kill the xserver & drop to the command line |
| 13:46.32 | alan|home | lardman: yeah, but the x server starts automigically... |
| 13:47.04 | lardman | keep pressing ctrl-alt-del about 5 times |
| 13:47.15 | lardman | it will eventually get bored of restarting and will stop |
| 13:47.55 | btwotch | lardman: where is ctrl-alt-del on the 5500 keyboard? I want also know, how to come to tty0... |
| 13:48.28 | alan|home | lardman: hehe ! cool ! thanks ^^ |
| 13:51.16 | lardman | btwotch: no idea about the location on a 5500 keyboard I'm afraid |
| 13:51.55 | lardman | btwotch: Is tty0 a vt? If so, you can use the standard vt commands to change |
| 13:54.26 | XorA|gone | btwotch: Calander Address + Del keys if I recall |
| 13:56.38 | btwotch | XorA|gone: del=fn+backspace??? |
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| 14:26.57 | Bro | Hi. I'm a bit new to zaurus, and I have a few questions. |
| 14:27.51 | alan|home | hi Bro ! maybe i can help you. |
| 14:28.30 | Bro | Okay. Yesterday I flashed with 3.5.3 Opie. |
| 14:28.46 | alan|home | good choice. |
| 14:29.31 | Bro | Yeah, I like it,. The Zuarus was a present. its a SL5500. |
| 14:29.46 | Bro | And I was using the default Sharp system. |
| 14:30.10 | Bro | And I used to access the Z from my Linux box via SMB. |
| 14:30.45 | Bro | I realised that there was no SMB, NFS or FTP running on 3.5.3 so, how do I access it? |
| 14:31.14 | alan|home | you need to install required programms to do that. let me check. |
| 14:31.39 | alan|home | do yopu have an internet access for your zaurus ? |
| 14:32.42 | Bro | Well, I can see my Linux box from my Zaurus, meaning I can ping the thing and the thing can ping back. |
| 14:33.28 | Bro | My inet access is a dsl on my network. I haven't figured out how to get to the Internet... |
| 14:33.41 | Bro | (from the Z, I mean) |
| 14:34.00 | alan|home | Bro: what is your linux distribution ? |
| 14:34.50 | Bro | A very customised Mandrake/mandriva with lots of stuff from other places. |
| 14:35.43 | alan|home | Bro: i use mandriva 2005. I did share the network access from the mandrake control center. it was pretty easy. I think you should try this. |
| 14:37.02 | lardman | ftp is probably running on your Z |
| 14:37.12 | Bro | really? |
| 14:37.15 | Bro | Let me check |
| 14:37.19 | lardman | should be on port 4242 |
| 14:37.36 | lardman | It's a cut-down version, used to sync with Intellisync |
| 14:37.40 | alan|home | Bro: on your zaurus, don't forget to set your mandrake box's IP as getaway, by the way... |
| 14:37.50 | lardman | You could always use sftp/scp |
| 14:38.41 | Bro | Okay. One sec |
| 14:43.13 | Bro | Okay. The only port open the Zaurus is ssh. That should be enough. But, what's the password? |
| 14:43.25 | lardman | there is no password by default |
| 14:43.37 | lardman | you will probably need to set one though, otherwise it won;t let you connect |
| 14:43.51 | Bro | But I get: ssh 192.168.129.201 |
| 14:43.52 | Bro | root@192.168.129.201's password: |
| 14:43.52 | Bro | Permission denied, please try again. |
| 14:44.21 | lardman | Yes, and you try a blank password (which is root's password) and it decides that blank passwords aren't allowed |
| 14:44.40 | Bro | So? |
| 14:44.47 | lardman | so set a root password |
| 14:44.48 | Bro | What can I do? |
| 14:44.53 | Bro | Of course. |
| 14:44.59 | Bro | Thanks, on sec. |
| 14:44.59 | lardman | on the Z, drop to a terminal and use passwd... etc. |
| 14:47.41 | Bro | Brilliant. Got it. Thanks. One more question... |
| 14:48.25 | lardman | go for it |
| 14:48.33 | Bro | When I switch off the Z, I can't get it to come back on. I have to flip the battery switch and back to get it to come on again. Why? |
| 14:48.45 | lardman | Dodgy kernel |
| 14:48.49 | lardman | you need to upgrade it |
| 14:48.54 | Bro | This has only happened since I updated to 3.5.3 |
| 14:49.10 | lardman | yes, a bug crept in (or rather it escaped again) |
| 14:49.20 | lardman | hang on, I'll find the link with instructions |
| 14:49.24 | Bro | So, should I get a CVS snapshot then. |
| 14:49.50 | lardman | No, that's not necessary - there;'s an updated kernel |
| 14:49.51 | lardman | http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/2005/07/27/howto-get-r21-kernel-on-collie/ |
| 14:50.30 | lardman | you need to upgrade the kernel modules before you flash |
| 14:50.52 | Bro | Uhu. Are the instructions on that page. I'm new... |
| 14:50.57 | lardman | Yes |
| 14:51.17 | Bro | Thanks. You have been ver so helpful. I really appreciate it. |
| 14:51.32 | lardman | No worries, always nice to help someone out |
| 14:52.03 | lardman | When you try to upgrade the kernel modules, make sure you comment out all of the other feeds, otherwise you'll run out of space |
| 14:52.38 | lardman | See comment 14 (from me) and comment 15 which tells you what to add to /etc/ipkg.conf |
| 14:53.10 | Bro | Thanks. Brilliant. I'll be back later with some more dumb questions. |
| 14:53.24 | lardman | I may not be here, but I'm sure someone will be about |
| 14:54.12 | Bro | Bye. |
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| 15:58.31 | lardman | what kind of wifi times to people here get on their Zs? |
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| 17:24.33 | lardman | hey offroadgeek |
| 17:24.38 | lardman | how are you? |
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| 17:32.00 | offroadgeek | hi lardman... I'm doing well.. you? |
| 17:32.24 | lardman | not bad thanks |
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| 17:49.56 | Plouj | I wonder if the new zaurus will come down in price very soon |
| 17:50.20 | Plouj | so if I buy a c-1000 for 625 I'll essentially get a bad deal |
| 17:50.27 | lardman | £!? |
| 17:50.39 | lardman | Yeah, it will be a bad deal |
| 17:50.40 | Plouj | USDF |
| 17:50.43 | lardman | ah |
| 17:50.44 | Plouj | -F |
| 17:52.49 | lardman | I've not kept up on the prices, but that is about the same as I bought my c750 for whenever that was |
| 17:53.21 | Plouj | yeah, doesn't look like the prices for them changed much |
| 17:53.50 | lardman | I think the prices stay pretty static, then move down a notch when the new models come out, etc. - same with everything I suppose |
| 17:53.53 | Plouj | this page just speculated that the price might drop now that shar re-introduced them |
| 17:54.14 | Plouj | man |
| 17:54.20 | Plouj | if it wasn't for the vga screen |
| 17:54.31 | Plouj | I'd get an ipaq 5450 and install loonix on it |
| 17:54.42 | lardman | keyboard is nice though |
| 17:54.56 | lardman | I'm tempted by the Nokia 7700 |
| 17:55.02 | lardman | s/7700/770 |
| 17:55.08 | Plouj | is that out? |
| 17:55.13 | lardman | (even though it has no keyboard) |
| 17:55.15 | lardman | no not yet |
| 17:55.33 | lardman | should be soon though, according to the release date, etc. |
| 17:55.41 | Plouj | humm |
| 17:55.44 | Plouj | just when I need a pda |
| 17:56.00 | Plouj | I'd hate to be in a situation where I dish out a lot of money, and then prices drop |
| 17:56.55 | lardman | Wait a bit an see, they won't drop, you'll decide to go for it, then they'll drop |
| 17:57.04 | lardman | sod's law ;) |
| 17:57.10 | Plouj | whos? |
| 17:57.19 | Plouj | who's sod? |
| 17:57.30 | lardman | Murphy's Law I suppose you'd say (if your American) |
| 17:57.35 | Plouj | heh |
| 17:57.37 | Plouj | indeed |
| 17:58.04 | Plouj | maybe I should get an azim |
| 17:58.06 | Plouj | axim* |
| 17:58.14 | lardman | no Linux though afaik |
| 17:58.25 | Plouj | use winCE until they port linucks to it |
| 17:58.35 | Plouj | they have booted the kernel |
| 17:58.41 | lardman | You might be waiting a while though...? |
| 17:58.49 | Plouj | but I won't be paying as much |
| 17:58.54 | Plouj | I could save like 200 USD |
| 17:59.19 | lardman | They're that cheap are they? |
| 18:00.00 | Plouj | Canadian Dell is selling it for 383USD |
| 18:00.16 | lardman | Nokia 770 is suppose to be ~$350 |
| 18:00.22 | Plouj | http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/DellAximX50Status |
| 18:01.38 | Plouj | Inglish is not my first language |
| 18:01.42 | Plouj | LD |
| 18:01.45 | Plouj | :D* |
| 18:01.54 | lardman | Hmm, progress, but I wonder how long it'll take to become useable? |
| 18:02.04 | Plouj | humm |
| 18:02.08 | Plouj | well |
| 18:02.15 | Plouj | I don't really need Linux per-se |
| 18:02.30 | Plouj | I just want it because it has better sofware variety for no extra cost |
| 18:02.40 | Plouj | all I really need is a pdf reader, todo list, and a calendar |
| 18:03.28 | lardman | Personally I like the being able to hack at it, but I do occasionally want something which is hassle free |
| 18:05.09 | lardman | Right, supper time, night |
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| 21:49.04 | rtron | hi you all |
| 21:49.38 | rtron | I am tyring to upgrade my open zaurus |
| 21:50.06 | rtron | I add to repositories to ipkg.conf |
| 21:50.30 | rtron | http://www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.3/upgrades/collie/ |
| 21:50.48 | rtron | and http://www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.3/feed/machine/collie |
| 21:51.02 | rtron | I run ipkg update; ipkg upgrade |
| 21:51.10 | rtron | and everything went well |
| 21:51.34 | rtron | but how do I install the new kernel? |
| 21:51.55 | rtron | I mean I am trying to get the r21 kernel |
| 21:52.08 | rtron | I downloaded from the http://www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.3/upgrades/collie/ |
| 21:52.33 | rtron | I flash it, but nothing happen, remains my old kernel |
| 21:52.57 | rtron | what am i doing wrong? |
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