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| 00:30.52 | overflowUK | wow added opie logon now sreen gone sideways! cant rotate back! |
| 00:30.57 | overflowUK | any fixes |
| 00:31.32 | overflowUK | remove opie login I guess!! |
| 00:31.54 | overflowUK | bloody buggy that!!!!! |
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| 02:33.26 | tpdd | Anyone know what the current status is with resume/suspend and alarms with OZ running on tosa and collie? |
| 02:42.26 | AppleBoy | nope |
| 02:42.40 | AppleBoy | JustinP: ! |
| 02:42.41 | AppleBoy | sup? |
| 03:06.06 | JustinP | AppleBoy: damn it! I wa sa few K away from finishing my download |
| 03:08.08 | JustinP | now I have to start all over... |
| 03:09.50 | JustinP | ack! |
| 03:18.14 | JustinP | damn it apple.... |
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| 06:27.23 | alan|home | hi |
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| 07:51.31 | XorA | yo alan|home |
| 07:52.32 | alan|home | hey XorA ! |
| 07:52.39 | alan|home | how are you ? |
| 07:53.33 | XorA | not bad, you? |
| 07:56.06 | alan|home | quite good. Learning lots of things about kernel... |
| 07:59.54 | XorA | alan|home: cool, Ive turned you into a dev |
| 08:03.41 | alan|home | XorA: Maybe in a very distant future... i've learned my first compiled language : latex. ;) Please don't laugh at me : i learn philo, so latex was a big step for me... plus it is very useful for my thesis. |
| 08:03.51 | XorA | :-D |
| 08:05.23 | alan|home | next step : a web site. ^^ |
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| 08:09.27 | alan|laptop | haaa... much better... |
| 08:10.18 | alan|laptop | sometimes ethernet wires are so much easier to use than those STUPID WIFI CARD ! |
| 08:10.28 | XorA | heh heh |
| 08:10.30 | alan|laptop | :-\ |
| 08:11.00 | alan|laptop | ok... let's compile 2.6.13... |
| 08:12.46 | hrw|work | alan|laptop: you can do website in LaTeX :) |
| 08:13.08 | alan|laptop | hrw|work: hi ! yeah, that is what i want to do ^^ |
| 08:13.23 | alan|laptop | i hope i'l find some time to do it. |
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| 09:20.08 | alan|laptop | here we go... let's boot this new kernel ! see you. |
| 09:23.41 | alan|home | dam it... kernel panic... |
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| 14:23.51 | florolf | hello |
| 14:24.13 | florolf | hum, konqueror-embedded seems to be broken |
| 14:24.25 | florolf | it depends against libqt2, which seems not to be there |
| 14:24.38 | hrw|work | -force-depends it |
| 14:24.41 | florolf | it looks like an old build from 2003 |
| 14:25.17 | hrw|work | konq/e is old |
| 14:25.19 | florolf | hum |
| 14:25.32 | florolf | what to use instead? |
| 14:26.06 | lardman|work | Opera? |
| 14:26.42 | florolf | hum, installing opera includes some more or less ugly hacking, doesn't it? |
| 14:27.09 | lardman|work | you need to use the compat libs & create one symlink |
| 14:27.30 | lardman|work | is there anything else hrw|work? |
| 14:27.42 | lardman|work | by way of browsers for Opie I mean? |
| 14:27.59 | hrw|work | no |
| 14:28.05 | hrw|work | only konq/e and opera |
| 14:28.16 | hrw|work | I dont count textmode browsers |
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| 15:03.02 | Sess | anyone got some experience with the snes emu's in OZ? |
| 15:03.12 | Sess | I got it to work great with the frontend, fullscreen, etc |
| 15:03.35 | Sess | but the I don't know if the functionality just isnt' there yet, but I can't save my battery state games |
| 15:03.44 | Sess | it works with znester, but not with zsnes9x |
| 15:04.11 | Sess | the otehr thing was that Quake runs full speed!!! I just can't get it to run properly every time, and it often restarts itself |
| 15:04.13 | Sess | any clues? |
| 15:05.57 | lardman|busy | Sess: Is this with opie or gpe |
| 15:06.25 | lardman|busy | oops, got to go for a bit |
| 15:06.59 | Sess | opie |
| 15:07.14 | Sess | is there a way to put gpe on my C3000? |
| 15:07.34 | Sess | I couldn't find any C3000 links anywhere on oz |
| 15:07.38 | Sess | for GPE |
| 15:07.40 | Sess | only opie |
| 15:28.43 | hrw|work | Sess: oz 3.5.4 soon |
| 15:30.48 | Sess | sweet |
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| 15:59.12 | FuraX | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:59.43 | FuraX | oz on a c3100 ? |
| 15:59.54 | lardman|busy | FuraX: soon |
| 16:00.00 | FuraX | :) |
| 16:00.35 | lardman|busy | you mean will there be an image for the 3100? I'm not sure, I don't have one and am not up to date on the kernel port for that (I think it will be released with 2.6.14 if anything) |
| 16:13.40 | Sess | lardman: here's the url where I got the GPE rom files for spitz from |
| 16:13.46 | Sess | http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=13543&pid=86698&st=0&#entry86698 |
| 16:14.08 | lardman|busy | ok, just looking |
| 16:15.29 | lardman|busy | http://openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.3/c3000/README |
| 16:15.43 | lardman|busy | So yes, move the pivotboot file to initrd.bin |
| 16:16.10 | lardman|busy | and use the updater.sh from that dir: http://openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.3/c3000/ |
| 16:16.28 | Sess | sweet |
| 16:16.53 | lardman|busy | tell us what happens... |
| 16:17.05 | lardman|busy | (you can't 'brick' it anyway) |
| 16:17.33 | Sess | will do |
| 16:20.35 | Sess | lardman: hdd3 will remain untouched right? |
| 16:22.07 | lardman|busy | Sess: I've no idea I'm afraid |
| 16:22.14 | lardman|busy | Is that where /home is? |
| 16:22.57 | lardman|busy | If so, it should (probably) remain untouched, but best to back it up anyway |
| 16:26.44 | Sess | well, its no big deal |
| 16:26.57 | Sess | had about 1gig of NES, SNES, and c64 and amiga roms |
| 16:27.30 | Sess | in addition to all dooms, heretic, and Ultima 7bg and si |
| 16:27.42 | Sess | but I've got that stuff on my box still |
| 16:28.03 | Sess | gpe pim software not compatible with original zaurus databases? |
| 16:28.29 | Sess | I didn't bother to back taht up either because I figured I would have to "resync" or possibly manually reenter everything anyway |
| 16:28.50 | lardman|busy | I don't use the GPE PIM stuff (I don't use any PIM stuff atm) |
| 16:34.16 | JustinP | Sess: the Cxx00 "flash" only changes the kernel, flash root, and hda1 |
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| 16:37.05 | lardman|busy | Sess: I'm off, hope you get it sorted. If not, ask Noodles if he can give you his build which is known to work |
| 16:37.07 | lardman|busy | night all |
| 16:49.08 | Apple|Server | JustinP: sorry for the downtime yesterday when you were using my system |
| 16:49.18 | Apple|Server | JustinP: I was just really angry and wanted to play games in peace |
| 16:50.26 | JustinP | Apple|Server: oh....well, sorry I had killed your connection |
| 16:50.46 | JustinP | I had just *finally* got e17 compiling again and wanted to test my new image |
| 16:50.58 | Apple|Server | no worries |
| 16:51.00 | JustinP | been working on getting this stuff working again for a few weeks now |
| 16:51.01 | Apple|Server | it wasn't just you |
| 16:51.13 | Apple|Server | I had another guy doing an rsync |
| 16:51.18 | JustinP | ah |
| 16:51.21 | Apple|Server | the combined part is what killed my connection |
| 16:53.34 | JustinP | the really annoying part was that I was at 99% done when it went down...I didn't see your message untiul it was too late |
| 16:53.50 | JustinP | oh well, just a few hours, not like it killed me |
| 16:53.59 | JustinP | I got some game playing done myself last night ^_^ |
| 17:04.35 | Sess | noodles GPE works flawlessly! |
| 17:04.42 | Sess | spitz and GPE is mint |
| 17:11.08 | Apple|Server | ouch, that sucks :/ sorry |
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| 19:09.47 | Apple|Server | JustinP: are you running your stuff in screen? |
| 19:10.30 | Apple|Server | JustinP: you might want to do that soon as I'm about to unplug the modem for a few minutes |
| 19:19.28 | Apple|Server | JustinP: let me know when you're done |
| 19:26.04 | hardwire | somebody here uses an apple |
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| 19:55.03 | JustinP | Apple|Server: I'm always in screen |
| 19:55.33 | JustinP | Apple|Server: you can go ahead and unplug the connection whenever you want, I always use screen for actually doing things |
| 19:57.59 | Apple|Server | cool |
| 19:58.03 | Apple|Server | bbiab, then I probably will |
| 19:58.30 | Apple|Server | also, let me know when you're done with your latest compile, I'm going to completely update my system today |
| 20:00.58 | JustinP | Apple|Server: ok. Update as in....? |
| 20:01.03 | JustinP | Apple|Server: and what's this about chroot? |
| 20:15.40 | Sess | I jumped the gun. Noodles implementation of GPE, while good, lacks 2 major functions, I can't suspend, and I there is no audio driver |
| 20:16.53 | Apple|Server | JustinP: I've been recompiling a new system in a chroot env because I screwed up the one that's currently in place. so my plan is to shut the computer down, put in the tuner card, boot to a liveCD, move the chroot stuff onto /, reboot, and be good to go |
| 20:17.01 | Sess | anyone know anything about GPE and the SPITZ |
| 20:32.49 | JustinP | Sess: I've run GPE on my spitz forever |
| 20:32.55 | JustinP | Apple|Server: oh that, yeah |
| 20:33.04 | JustinP | Apple|Server: good, glad you're getting that done finally ^_^ |
| 20:34.02 | JustinP | Sess: and sound works just fine in the 2.4 kernel. I assume you're using the 2.6 one? |
| 20:45.25 | JustinP | Apple|Server: will I be able to finish one more set of compiles or do you need to reboot now? |
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| 20:55.46 | Apple|Server | JustinP: how long will those compiles take? |
| 20:56.22 | JustinP | Apple|Server: shouldn't be too long |
| 20:56.36 | JustinP | Apple|Server: I'd try to check but it's being real slow and dropping out... |
| 20:56.48 | Apple|Server | ?? |
| 20:58.06 | JustinP | I assumed you were playing with the modem... |
| 20:58.14 | JustinP | yep, there we go... |
| 20:58.17 | JustinP | started a download |
| 20:58.30 | JustinP | nothing for a while....then >40K, then back down to 0... |
| 20:59.09 | JustinP | was doing the same thing with ssh before I started the download |
| 21:01.35 | Apple|Server | try now |
| 21:01.39 | Apple|Server | let me know |
| 21:03.21 | Apple|Server | it shouldn't be that slow |
| 21:03.58 | JustinP | Apple|Server: nope...downloads incredibly slow and ssh lagging / not updating |
| 21:04.15 | JustinP | ah, download is working for once |
| 21:05.58 | Apple|Server | so all is good now? |
| 21:06.15 | JustinP | looks like it |
| 21:06.26 | JustinP | I'm going to hold off on ssh until this download finishes... |
| 21:10.54 | JustinP | come on compile! |
| 21:14.37 | Apple|Server | signal booster ordered :) |
| 21:21.37 | JustinP | Apple|Server: nearing completion |
| 21:24.05 | Apple|Server | ugh, this sucks :( |
| 21:24.14 | Apple|Server | BMW dealership can't get their act together so I can't pick my car up |
| 21:25.25 | JustinP | compile done, just need to finish my download |
| 21:25.28 | JustinP | 5m |
| 21:26.16 | Apple|Server | no rush |
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| 21:30.59 | JustinP | Apple|Server: ok, I'm good now. You can reboot/whatever now if you like |
| 21:32.07 | Apple|Server | cool |
| 22:00.14 | jnc | JustinP: hey man |
| 22:00.28 | JustinP | jnc: yo |
| 22:00.31 | JustinP | jnc: been a while |
| 22:01.05 | jnc | yeah |
| 22:01.30 | jnc | i haven't touched my Z much, never finished the psycho crazy keymap |
| 22:01.37 | JustinP | heh |
| 22:01.41 | jnc | 2.6.x kernel for c3k is almost perfect i hear |
| 22:01.45 | JustinP | and it was psycho crazy.... |
| 22:01.46 | jnc | only USB and audio missing |
| 22:01.53 | JustinP | parts of USB |
| 22:01.58 | JustinP | and the audio controller |
| 22:02.00 | JustinP | as well as sound |
| 22:02.08 | jnc | are you using the 2.6.x kern? |
| 22:02.19 | jnc | i'd like to get my Z up to speed and somewhat functional if possible :) |
| 22:02.26 | JustinP | I've tried a bit to do the sound controller but since I'm a kernel noob.... |
| 22:02.30 | JustinP | no, I still use 2.4 |
| 22:02.35 | JustinP | sound is pretty important to me |
| 22:02.40 | JustinP | and I like my remote |
| 22:02.42 | jnc | ah |
| 22:03.06 | jnc | ;) |
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| 22:04.08 | jnc | you're serious about sound? hah! http://jnc.pimpcat.org/files/diy-shockmount/cimg9046.jpg =oP |
| 22:04.14 | jnc | it's cool though |
| 22:04.20 | jnc | i really want to focus on 2.6.x though |
| 22:04.30 | jnc | 2.4.x development seems like a waste of time |
| 22:04.59 | JustinP | yes, 2.4 is a waste of time |
| 22:05.06 | JustinP | I'm not touching the kernel |
| 22:05.10 | JustinP | just using it |
| 22:05.15 | jnc | so what's new in Zland? |
| 22:05.24 | JustinP | I see |
| 22:05.31 | JustinP | well...I got e17 working....again.... |
| 22:05.36 | jnc | oooH! |
| 22:05.39 | jnc | how is it? |
| 22:05.45 | JustinP | as it always was |
| 22:06.11 | JustinP | the very day I decided to actually use one of my e-images instead of a gpe-image it up and started segfaulting on me |
| 22:06.12 | jnc | i've never used it on a small device |
| 22:06.15 | JustinP | I was very pissed |
| 22:06.29 | jnc | oh |
| 22:06.40 | JustinP | works again now, though |
| 22:06.48 | JustinP | after a 76-file checkin :-| |
| 22:09.36 | jnc | what would you suggest i do with my Z? it's not being used right now, because if i was going to develop with it i'd want a 2.6.x kernel, if not then i want useful apps and to use it for ssh + IM |
| 22:10.17 | JustinP | well you can do both with kernel 2. |
| 22:10.17 | JustinP | 6 |
| 22:10.27 | JustinP | you just can't listen to music or do some USB stuff ;-) |
| 22:10.35 | jnc | okay |
| 22:10.44 | jnc | how do i do that? :) |
| 22:11.16 | jnc | (i've been so busy getting my mac68k machine up to speed and dealing with those devs i forgot almost everything about OZ) |
| 22:11.18 | JustinP | build an image |
| 22:11.56 | jnc | okay |
| 22:12.01 | JustinP | ^_^ |
| 22:12.04 | jnc | where to get info about that for debian? |
| 22:12.10 | jnc | i've never done that myself before |
| 22:12.51 | JustinP | oh really |
| 22:13.06 | JustinP | http://oe.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/GettingStarted |
| 22:13.12 | jnc | truth. thanks |
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| 22:22.52 | jnc | the Z would be cool to have as a sequencer |
| 22:23.00 | jnc | for electronic music :) |
| 22:24.42 | JustinP | well, find a linux program for it and put it in OE |
| 22:24.47 | JustinP | it's not hard in general... |
| 22:25.19 | jnc | too bad there's no ieee1394 |
| 22:26.30 | JustinP | too bad the USB is 1.0 |
| 22:26.44 | jnc | ooh holy crap |
| 22:26.51 | jnc | my Hercules PC DJ Console is usb 1.0 |
| 22:26.53 | jnc | i wonder... |
| 22:27.11 | jnc | it's a 6 channel audio interface with midi and turntable stuff |
| 22:27.14 | jnc | that would rock ass |
| 22:28.04 | JustinP | try it |
| 22:28.11 | JustinP | if there are Linux drievrs is should work.... |
| 22:31.49 | jnc | interesting, ^j is 'enter' on my gnome-terminal |
| 22:31.56 | jnc | didn't know that before |
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| 22:46.30 | mhz | hy everyone |
| 22:47.03 | mhz | how do I get the /dev/root be bigger than 1360 kb available after just flashing the rom?? |
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| 22:53.50 | Apple|Server | JustinP: on the upside, the transition went well, on the downside, there might be a few issues |
| 22:54.34 | JustinP | mhz: you can try uninstalling things |
| 22:54.39 | JustinP | mhz: or mocing root to SD |
| 22:54.42 | JustinP | Apple|Server: such as? |
| 22:54.59 | mhz | JustinP: :( |
| 22:55.11 | mhz | mocing seems to be the only solution |
| 22:55.18 | JustinP | mocing? |
| 22:55.23 | mhz | moving :) |
| 22:55.26 | JustinP | yes |
| 22:55.33 | JustinP | well, the flash isn't going to get any bigger |
| 22:55.56 | Apple|Server | JustinP: not sure yet, gotta reboot |
| 22:59.26 | mhz | JustinP: hmmm |
| 22:59.59 | mhz | but how come some people/screenshots have opie-sheet, opie-irc, etc in such small area? |
| 23:00.09 | mhz | just by moving to SD? |
| 23:01.00 | JustinP | that's part of it |
| 23:01.08 | JustinP | yes, moving to SD is your best bet |
| 23:03.12 | mhz | booh |
| 23:03.18 | mhz | thx, anyways |
| 23:04.51 | mhz | Any experience with Axim X50 ? (I have a SL-5500, basically because of the keyboard, but the flash is killing me) |
| 23:06.34 | JustinP | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:06.40 | JustinP | just use an SD card for root |
| 23:06.43 | JustinP | it's not hard |
| 23:07.11 | mhz | I beleive there's a good how2 on the wiki site |
| 23:07.14 | mhz | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:16.29 | mhz | JustinP: so by moving to SD, next time I install apps, they'll get installed in SD? what will i use the 65 MB in the Zaurus then? |
| 23:16.42 | mhz | user docs? |
| 23:17.02 | mhz | 65 = 64, sorry |
| 23:17.49 | JustinP | you don't have 64M for your root |
| 23:17.52 | JustinP | 64M is RAM |
| 23:17.58 | JustinP | IIRC |
| 23:18.13 | JustinP | if you move root to SD you have allt he space that your SD card has |
| 23:18.25 | JustinP | *or* you can just install things to SD, but this isn't a great option IMHO |
| 23:19.30 | mhz | oh, let me get this right.. |
| 23:20.03 | mhz | so far, there is 64 MB in the Zaurus. I can decide how much for ROM and how much is used for RAM, correct? |
| 23:20.23 | JustinP | no |
| 23:20.27 | mhz | oops |
| 23:20.35 | JustinP | you can decide how much is RAM and how much is a RAMdrive |
| 23:21.00 | JustinP | you can effectively "install to RAM" using the ramdrive |
| 23:21.09 | JustinP | but it's just a better solution to use an SD card |
| 23:21.13 | mhz | hmmm. |
| 23:21.29 | mhz | I agree on the SD thing, but what will hapen to MB in the Z? |
| 23:22.28 | JustinP | the measly 16MB flash root will just sit there |
| 23:22.34 | JustinP | don't cry over it |
| 23:22.40 | JustinP | use the 64-0 kernel |
| 23:23.17 | Le_Sot_Zi | hi |
| 23:23.39 | mhz | JustinP: hehee |
| 23:23.41 | Le_Sot_Zi | someone has the aircable bt dongle for zaurus here ? |
| 23:24.00 | mhz | I need to cry for something that willnot be used :) |
| 23:24.00 | Le_Sot_Zi | i can't make it work on oz |
| 23:24.13 | mhz | not me, sorry |
| 23:25.30 | Le_Sot_Zi | :'( |
| 23:29.23 | mhz | JustinP: sorry it's me again, but then, I have a CF (64 MB) and a SD (128 MB). By using the 64-0 zImage, does that mean my maximum space in /dev/root is 64 MB? if so, what will happen to the other 64 MB, in case of the SD? can that still be used? |
| 23:29.49 | mhz | or i am totally lost :) |
| 23:29.51 | mhz | ? |
| 23:35.21 | JustinP | mhz: you're lost |
| 23:35.29 | mhz | LOL |
| 23:35.38 | JustinP | mhz: the 64-0 refers to RAM and RAMdrive |
| 23:35.42 | JustinP | it has nothing to do with root |
| 23:35.49 | mhz | ok |
| 23:35.57 | JustinP | nothing to do with root in flahs, nothing to do with root anywhere else |
| 23:36.03 | mhz | LOL |
| 23:36.09 | mhz | following you |
| 23:36.48 | mhz | but, don't apps get installed in /dev/root? |
| 23:37.02 | mhz | in = under |
| 23:40.27 | Le_Sot_Zi | JustinP, have you already seen issues with bt ? |
| 23:43.29 | JustinP | Le_Sot_Zi: I have never used bluetooth |
| 23:43.40 | JustinP | mhz: you can move root to SD, as I said before |
| 23:43.46 | JustinP | mhz: it's called pivoting root |
| 23:59.50 | mhz | JustinP: yes, I followed that part |
