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| 05:41.33 | ```bulldogg | can anyone take a few minutes to help me |
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| 05:44.47 | ```bulldogg | okay I will just throw it out there then... I bought a Zaurus 5500 a couple of months ago and I got everything to work fine even sync with my computer.... however I updated the ROM and ever since I have done that I cannot get it to sync with my computer.... wireless and everything else is working but it won't sync.... any ideas |
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| 06:44.31 | earthwalker | Hello I have a problem with my SL-5500 with OZ 3.5.3 with Opie. I am using KO/PI for my Schedual. When I used the one that came with Opie an alarm would sound if it was suspended. It does not do that anymore. Is there any way to fix this?? |
| 06:44.32 | earthwalker | Thanks |
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| 06:45.25 | ```bulldogg | can anyone help me? |
| 06:45.31 | ```bulldogg | are you all sleeping? |
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| 06:47.09 | ```bulldogg | hello |
| 06:47.47 | earthwalker | Bulldogg what is your problem? |
| 06:47.47 | earthwalker | I can sure try. |
| 06:48.45 | ```bulldogg | I have a zaurus... that was working fine... I could sync do wireless... pretty much everything... I updated the rom and ever since I cannot sync with my computer |
| 06:49.10 | ```bulldogg | I can deal with that.... if someone can tell me how to sync it wirelessly or... come up with another method |
| 06:49.16 | ```bulldogg | I have a 5500 |
| 06:49.49 | earthwalker | What ROM are you using? What are you trying to sync? What system are you syncing with? |
| 06:51.17 | ```bulldogg | okay the ROM I have is 3.10... I am trying to basically sync the whole thing... to a XP machine... I have tried qtopia and the other one I cant think of at the moment.... neither client will get it done |
| 06:53.24 | earthwalker | OK. I can only go through the basics with you. It sounds like the sharp ROM. I use OpenZaurus and I don't touch a computer with Windows on it. Are you able to get a wireless connection now? |
| 06:54.10 | ```bulldogg | yeah... I got wireless internet going all day :) |
| 06:55.43 | earthwalker | Are you using the same Sync software as before you flashed? What ROM were you using? I take it you are using the stock schedual software? |
| 06:56.47 | ```bulldogg | everything you just said went over my head... I was using qtopia before everything messed up... now I don't remember what exactly I had set up... and I have de installed and re installed so many times |
| 06:59.06 | ```bulldogg | I don't have a sd card... so that will probably not make things easy |
| 06:59.44 | earthwalker | I was just trying to find out what change. |
| 06:59.52 | ```bulldogg | if there was a way to flash it on-line I would flash to what ever will work.... I don't care.... my wife won't let me get a different PDA and I need it for school |
| 07:00.11 | earthwalker | Did you set up the Zaurus to accept connection from Any?? |
| 07:00.50 | ```bulldogg | which Icon would that be under in settings |
| 07:02.47 | earthwalker | Let my grab my Zaurus. But I am using OpenZaurus 3.5.3 |
| 07:03.18 | ```bulldogg | is there anyway I can go out to an OpenZaurus site and flash over the internet? |
| 07:04.17 | raduga | if it were possible, it would not be a good idea. |
| 07:04.39 | raduga | better than SD: you should get a CF card. |
| 07:04.49 | raduga | flashing is (moderately) more reliable |
| 07:04.55 | earthwalker | You can not flash from the internet. You would need a Compact Flash card atlease 64 megs |
| 07:04.55 | ```bulldogg | okay.... sounds like I may be pretty screwed then |
| 07:05.05 | raduga | well, here is the deal: |
| 07:05.16 | raduga | you will be screwed until you get things resolved. |
| 07:05.37 | raduga | what you need, is to find a way to resolve your issues. this should be possible. |
| 07:05.42 | earthwalker | You had it syncing before it should be able to get it again. |
| 07:05.45 | raduga | a few things, though, |
| 07:06.40 | raduga | #openzaurus is a channel specifically intended towards people who develop/use the OpenZaurus ROM, so you might be better off querying #zaurus |
| 07:07.04 | raduga | which channel is used by and for a more general Zaurus crowd. |
| 07:07.14 | ```bulldogg | yeah I have been trying that........... has about the same amount of people as here but everyone seems to be asleep |
| 07:07.37 | raduga | many of the users are American, and this is sleeping time for most Americans. |
| 07:07.44 | raduga | try again in 12 hours or so, if you can. |
| 07:09.04 | raduga | if syncing was working before, and its not now, then one of three things has occurred, most likely |
| 07:09.04 | raduga | a) something changed in the desktop PC settings |
| 07:09.07 | raduga | b) something changed, or failed, in hardware |
| 07:09.16 | raduga | c) something changed in software on your Zaurus |
| 07:09.48 | raduga | Sorry, if I'm joining in the middle of this. Are you using wifi or cradle to sync with? |
| 07:10.12 | ```bulldogg | I was using a cradle... if there is an option to sync over wifi that would be fine |
| 07:10.40 | raduga | there is no simple "option". it would be something you set up. |
| 07:11.10 | ```bulldogg | ok.... but I don't know how to set it up over wifi |
| 07:11.12 | raduga | understand, to accomplish most interesting things with a Zaurus requires some hands-on effort. |
| 07:11.20 | raduga | its ok. |
| 07:11.26 | raduga | let's go back to what we know works. |
| 07:11.32 | raduga | or has worked in the past. |
| 07:11.45 | raduga | does your PC recognise that the Zaurus is connected? |
| 07:12.02 | ```bulldogg | yes even now it will beep when I put it into the cradle |
| 07:12.14 | raduga | Good. |
| 07:12.34 | raduga | Did you change or reinstall or remove any software on the Windows side, since you reflashed the Zaurus rom? |
| 07:12.45 | ```bulldogg | no I have not |
| 07:13.10 | ```bulldogg | it stopped syncing as soon as the flash was complete |
| 07:13.22 | raduga | Ok. does the PC have an active network device for the zaurus? |
| 07:14.35 | ```bulldogg | no not anymore..... I un-installed all software having to do with that |
| 07:14.37 | raduga | (one other sanity-check type question. Is your zaurus otherwise working as a standalone system, since you flashed?) |
| 07:14.40 | ```bulldogg | after it didn't work |
| 07:14.55 | ```bulldogg | yes it works fine other than the sync problem |
| 07:15.29 | raduga | bulldogg: I am confused. I asked "did you reinstall or remove any software on the Windows side since you reflashed the Zaurus rom?" and you said "no". |
| 07:15.53 | raduga | I asked if the PC has an active network device for the Zaurus, and you said you uninstalled all software having to do with that. |
| 07:15.54 | ```bulldogg | I only removed the software after it wouldn't work after the flash |
| 07:16.19 | raduga | as of *right now* there is zero chance that syncing will work, without the PC software. |
| 07:16.24 | raduga | you have to install that, first |
| 07:16.45 | ```bulldogg | okay I can do that... but I will have to reboot and will drop from the room for a bit |
| 07:17.29 | raduga | you can keep chatting as long as you like, but you won't have any chance of making any progress in syncing your zaurus, if the syncing software is not installed on the PC. |
| 07:17.32 | raduga | Its up to you! |
| 07:17.50 | earthwalker | raduga, have a problem. No alarms using ko/pi |
| 07:18.03 | raduga | earthwalker: under GPE? |
| 07:18.10 | earthwalker | opie |
| 07:18.58 | raduga | hm. sorry. I haven't used ko/pi much. I know you're not the only one reporting problems. Possibly you need a specially patched version of ko/pi or kernel modules, or possibly both. |
| 07:19.15 | raduga | earthwalker: check oesf forums, or bother Kergoth. |
| 07:19.49 | earthwalker | Ok. Thanks. I have done Google searches. Looked around the ko/pi info. I was not sure if it was a ko/pi issue, opie, or oz. |
| 07:20.20 | raduga | its not opie-specific, since the same problems seem to show up in ko/pi on pdaXrom |
| 07:20.28 | earthwalker | Thanks |
| 07:20.38 | raduga | it may have to do with the fact that non-sharp roms are missing some bits that the sharp roms have. |
| 07:21.30 | raduga | I only looked at the problem briefly, and it was a long time ago. There's a workaround, I believe, but you will probably need: patched ko/pi, additional tools, or kernel modules. Sorry I can't be more specific. |
| 07:21.53 | raduga | poor bulldogg |
| 07:22.20 | earthwalker | Sucks to have to reboot just to install software! |
| 07:23.06 | raduga | sucks to be severely confused, on how your pda/pc works :[ |
| 07:23.57 | raduga | I need to sleep, soon |
| 07:25.01 | raduga | earthwalker: any idea why non-unix people end up with zauruses? |
| 07:25.17 | raduga | I know... you shouldn't need to know unix to use one, |
| 07:25.38 | earthwalker | No clue. Sence you can get a Palm Cheeper |
| 07:26.28 | raduga | but in the Real World (and many of the fake ones) it seems that such knowledge tends to make the difference between a useable PDA and a brick |
| 07:26.54 | earthwalker | yep |
| 07:26.58 | raduga | cheeper palms don't have keyboards though :/ |
| 07:27.19 | raduga | he says his wife won't let him get a different PDA. Maybe she's the unix geek! |
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| 07:34.17 | ```bulldogg | okay.... I see traffic but I can't sync |
| 07:35.01 | ```bulldogg | raduga I am back |
| 07:37.16 | raduga | bulldogg: hi. I have to go to bed now, unfortunately |
| 07:37.25 | raduga | have work in a few hours. |
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| 07:59.12 | alan|laptop | hi guys ! |
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| 09:46.14 | XorA | ok Im happy now, my Z has pcmcia |
| 09:59.14 | alan|afk | lucky you :) |
| 10:01.22 | XorA | alan|afk: easy available on ebay :-) |
| 10:12.09 | _law_ | is there any javavm for the Z ? |
| 10:15.44 | XorA | kaffe, jammvm, and another one |
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| 10:18.36 | _law_ | XorA, whats the best? |
| 10:19.01 | XorA | not used any of them |
| 10:25.39 | alan|afk | got to go to work. see you tomorrow :) |
| 10:27.44 | alan|afk | i can't wait for testing an enlightenement image... |
| 10:27.48 | alan|afk | bye |
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| 12:17.14 | lardman|work | ~akita |
| 12:17.15 | ibot | i heard akita is the Sharp SL-C1000, or a dog |
| 12:17.28 | lardman|work | Who's developing for the Akita? |
| 12:17.57 | hrw|work | in what meaning? |
| 12:18.05 | lardman|work | http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=15372&st=0&p=98239&#entry98239 |
| 12:18.14 | lardman|work | point 1. - Opie keymap needs a tweak |
| 12:18.26 | hrw|work | oz3.5.3 user? |
| 12:18.51 | lardman|work | Looks like it - this has been fixed has it? |
| 12:19.04 | hrw|work | iirc yes |
| 12:19.32 | lardman|work | okay, no worries then |
| 12:20.25 | lardman|work | Search on the bugtracker is not the easiest is it? I can't find anything related to "akita | 1000 | 1k" |
| 12:20.56 | lardman|work | hrw|work: I saw your comment about RCs, I agree, we should release something |
| 12:21.01 | hrw|work | rather do search in monotone log |
| 12:21.17 | lardman|work | Not so easy for users who want to submit a bug |
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| 18:16.28 | *** topic/#openzaurus is OpenZaurus user discussion/support channel | developer discussion in #oe | http://openzaurus.org/ | Don't ask to ask, just ask. | OZ 3.5.3 -> http://openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.3/ | Report OZ bugs at http://bugs.openembedded.org/ l/p: guest/guest |
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| 19:12.03 | _law_ | has someone a current oz build with working suspend on Zaurus SLxxx ? |
| 19:13.04 | _law_ | apm -s says: apm: Device or resource busy |
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| 21:15.58 | raduga | what populates /dev in OZ? |
| 21:16.00 | raduga | at boot? |
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| 21:21.21 | raduga | hm |
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| 21:29.18 | Apple|Server | JustinP: system is back up, don't know why my mom shut it down, but it works again :) |
| 21:38.24 | JustinP | Apple|Server: ok. Thanks. |
| 21:40.59 | Apple|Server | were you in the middle of compiling something? |
| 21:49.37 | Apple|Server | it was the damn cleaning lady :/ |
| 21:49.38 | Apple|Server | argg |
| 21:51.53 | JustinP | no, I wasn't doing anything |
| 21:52.06 | JustinP | having some strange problems with autotools on your box, actually... |
| 21:52.11 | JustinP | nothing I can pin down, though |
| 21:52.35 | JustinP | I think it has to do with it being an amd64 and the strangeness in some of th esystem include files... |
| 21:52.46 | JustinP | (which OE shouldn't be reading but it...) |
| 21:52.50 | JustinP | but *is* |
| 21:57.30 | Apple|Server | interesting |
| 21:57.35 | Apple|Server | well, have fun debugging |
| 21:57.50 | Apple|Server | soon I will be putting in a dedicated line specifically for ssh and www |
| 21:57.54 | Apple|Server | :) |
| 21:58.04 | Apple|Server | and it will have a _really_ high bandwidth rate :D |
| 22:05.47 | JustinP | ah-ha! that *is* it.... |
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| 22:08.25 | Apple|Server | ?? |
| 22:11.33 | JustinP | it's including system header files. And a quick look shows that, strangely, the headers on your system conditionally include one or the other whether you have a 32-bit or 64-bit flag set |
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| 22:11.47 | JustinP | however, it's not if-else, it's if-if, which means that for ARM you get neither |
| 22:11.55 | JustinP | and hence I get all sorts of undefined symbol errors |
| 22:12.07 | Apple|Server | well that sucks |
| 22:12.22 | JustinP | well it shouldn't be including from there anyway....darn e autotools.... |
| 22:28.22 | Apple|Server | I just got 750kbps up :D |
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