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| 01:54.50 | tanq | anyone alive in here |
| 01:59.04 | sheepbat | just me |
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| 02:19.30 | sirmaxworld | hi all |
| 02:20.27 | sirmaxworld | I installed opieplayer 1 and it can't play the mp3's it shows me the error: terminated due to signal code sigsegv |
| 02:20.31 | sirmaxworld | what doe it mean? |
| 02:22.03 | tanq | which reminds me.. what is the best media player for opie right now.. |
| 02:22.08 | tanq | and can it play wmv files? |
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| 02:25.31 | sirmaxworld | tanq, which player do u use? |
| 02:31.52 | sheepbat | hmm... |
| 02:31.58 | sheepbat | i'm not sure about specifically for the zaurus... |
| 02:32.10 | sheepbat | ..but anything with WMV3 requires the official Microsoft codec |
| 02:32.16 | sheepbat | ..possibly in various hacked versions |
| 02:32.38 | sheepbat | wmv2 or 1 can be done with mplayer, or anything else that can use ffmpeg |
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| 02:43.52 | tanq | yeah but you need gpe for mplayer dont you |
| 02:44.26 | sheepbat | hmm.. not sure |
| 02:44.45 | sheepbat | I think there is some form of X11 available for opie |
| 02:47.51 | tanq | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:48.10 | sheepbat | haven't tried it |
| 02:48.21 | tanq | i'm trying to figure out what i can put on the sd with updater.sh |
| 02:48.25 | sheepbat | I haven't done anything really funky with mine |
| 02:48.41 | tanq | hmm |
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| 03:47.31 | tanq | can you ssh over usb connection? |
| 03:51.51 | tanq | Ok I believe that there is a real problem with 3.5.4 for poodle right now.. I wouldn't really suggest loading it.. |
| 03:52.20 | tanq | and i believe that it has something to do with the updater.sh |
| 03:52.56 | tanq | i can't flash back to 3.5.3 w/ gpe now |
| 03:53.14 | tanq | and i'm getting errors that I shouldn't be getting after a flash. |
| 03:53.30 | tanq | like it can't find some share libraries when I know these images work. |
| 03:54.41 | wpiku | yeah |
| 03:54.49 | wpiku | I reverted to cacko on spitz |
| 03:54.51 | wpiku | :-/ |
| 03:55.04 | tanq | i can't even revert back to my previous working state |
| 03:55.15 | wpiku | it's so close to being ready too |
| 03:55.26 | wpiku | I guess they're releasing for the benefit of other systems |
| 03:55.33 | tanq | well this is on poodle which was just released a few days ago |
| 03:55.44 | tanq | i think the updater is writing somewhere its not supposed to.. |
| 03:55.46 | tanq | just a theory |
| 03:57.06 | sheepbat | I've been able to ssh... but only on cacko |
| 03:58.14 | tanq | what zaurus do you have? |
| 03:58.19 | sheepbat | boxer |
| 03:58.22 | sheepbat | c860 |
| 03:58.26 | tanq | ahh |
| 03:58.47 | sheepbat | nice unit, but I honestly would like a 3100 a little more |
| 03:58.54 | sheepbat | bye |
| 04:00.16 | wpiku | eh.. I don't know the motivation to get C860 when you could get C1000 |
| 04:00.25 | tanq | heh i wasn't paying attention to who was saying what |
| 04:00.26 | wpiku | maybe ATI W100 video is better? |
| 04:00.32 | tanq | i thought sheepbat was you |
| 04:00.36 | wpiku | nope ;) |
| 04:00.43 | tanq | i didnt read the nick |
| 04:00.44 | wpiku | I have C3000 |
| 04:00.50 | wpiku | I like the white ;) |
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| 04:23.44 | sirmaxworld | can somebody tell me why I just can't getting anything running under oz? |
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| 05:12.07 | tanq | hrmm |
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| 06:45.17 | hari_seldon99 | guess not |
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| 07:53.40 | |tbb| | anyone knows how to play wmv movies on Z which needs the wmv9 codecs, i would like to see it for mplayer |
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| 07:56.50 | XorA | |tbb|: you cant, wmv9 is closed |
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| 08:44.59 | |tbb| | any scripts out there for linux how 2 convert the videoz fastly to another readable format |
| 08:46.21 | hrw|work | |tbb|: ever was on openzaurus.org? |
| 08:46.32 | |tbb| | for sure |
| 08:47.14 | |tbb| | i have sean 2 entrys while i was searching wmv9 one of them told it is windows only |
| 08:47.29 | |tbb| | but i usually ask 2 times |
| 08:47.59 | hrw|work | do you have wmv9 video on web somewhere? |
| 08:49.20 | hrw|work | I have only wmv3 here |
| 08:53.19 | |tbb| | i just have seen a nice vid and i would like to have it on my Z go take a look at its about 20 megs -> http://ryoni.com/media/Miller.wmv |
| 08:54.57 | |tbb| | but dont forget to WORK!!! |
| 08:55.39 | XorA | |tbb|: read my script on openzaurus.org |
| 08:55.51 | XorA | |tbb|: if your mplayer on desktop plays wmv9 it will work |
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| 08:57.01 | hrw|work | http://ryoni.com/media/heidiklum.wmv is wmv3 anyway |
| 08:57.20 | |tbb| | i would have miller |
| 08:57.32 | XorA | hrw|work: x86 mplayer plays wmv9 only with win32 dll |
| 08:57.44 | |tbb| | btw xora it runs fine on my mplayer in linux desktop pc |
| 08:58.00 | hrw|work | XorA: anyway I want to test it |
| 08:58.08 | XorA | |tbb|: then read openzaurus.org for how to make that into a nice video for Z |
| 08:58.18 | XorA | hrw|work: find new .wmv files :-) |
| 08:58.26 | hrw|work | |tbb|: where exactly I can find that miller one? |
| 08:58.51 | |tbb| | ive post it before http://ryoni.com/media/Miller.wmv |
| 08:59.01 | |tbb| | i cant get enough from here |
| 08:59.03 | |tbb| | her |
| 08:59.16 | hrw|work | ok. found |
| 08:59.19 | hrw|work | its http://ryoni.com/media/miller.wmv |
| 08:59.22 | hrw|work | lowercase |
| 08:59.42 | subdue | hrm. wonder when oesf will go back up |
| 08:59.45 | hrw|work | VIDEO: [WMV3] 320x240 24bpp 1000.000 fps 0.0 kbps ( 0.0 kbyte/s) |
| 08:59.57 | hrw|work | so miller.wmv is wmv3 not wmv9 |
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| 09:01.33 | XorA | Selected video codec: [wmv9dmo] vfm:dmo (Windows Media Video 9 DMO) |
| 09:01.35 | hrw|work | anyway it is not playable on !x86 linux |
| 09:01.59 | XorA | the ones that work on !x86 use ffmpeg |
| 09:02.42 | hrw|work | anyway its asf (Absolutelly Shitty Format) |
| 09:04.58 | XorA | A Secret Format |
| 09:05.37 | |tbb| | ive got the same file running on my linux machine but not on my Z |
| 09:06.40 | hrw|work | |tbb|: read again what XorA wrote: "mplayer plays wmv9 only with win32 dll" |
| 09:07.28 | hrw|work | then read it again |
| 09:07.40 | |tbb| | okay may i got that on my linux |
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| 10:32.10 | XorA | ~lart exchange server |
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| 11:36.43 | |tbb| | anyone good at windows? |
| 11:38.16 | lardman|work | perhaps, what's up? |
| 11:38.36 | XorA | howdee lardman|work |
| 11:38.49 | hrw|work | hi lardman |
| 11:39.15 | lardman|work | hey XorA, hrw|work |
| 11:39.41 | lardman|work | Anyone know what generates the /etc/pcmcia/config file? |
| 11:39.52 | lardman|work | bug 433 iirc |
| 11:40.10 | lardman|work | I should provide a patch to wherever it comes from I think |
| 11:40.36 | hrw|work | lardman|work: its from pcmcia-cs package + our addons |
| 11:40.59 | lardman|work | hrw|work: hmm, is it generated? I couldn't see it in the files directory, etc. |
| 11:40.59 | hrw|work | 422 bug? |
| 11:41.12 | lardman|work | my ratoc bug |
| 11:41.22 | hrw|work | lardman|work: its in pcmcia-cs package and OE patch ratoc into it |
| 11:41.23 | lardman|work | yep 422 |
| 11:41.43 | hrw|work | lardman|work: ratoc-cfu1u.patch |
| 11:42.01 | hrw|work | oe/packages/pcmcia-cs/pcmcia-cs-3.2.8/ratoc-cfu1u.patch |
| 11:42.25 | lardman|work | cool, I'll sort a patch for that this arvo then |
| 11:43.01 | hrw|work | lardman|work: currently we have ratoc in kernel tree or separated? |
| 11:43.14 | lardman|work | hrw|work: In kernel tree |
| 11:45.39 | lardman|work | lunch-time |
| 11:48.20 | |tbb| | i would like to know how i can enumarete all clients from a network r up. for example if i use smb4k on my linux and im going to search for an ip like 10.65.65.65, the gui shows up the workgroup for that client and all other hostnames which are in the same workgroup, how could i get that on windows? |
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| 12:24.35 | lardman|lunch | |tbb|: using the 'net' command and it's subcommands |
| 12:25.16 | lardman|lunch | |tbb|: not sure which off the top of my head but do 'net help' and start from there (you can then use help on the subcommands too e.g. 'net send help') |
| 12:27.02 | lardman|meeting | btw, is anyone able to access oesf? |
| 12:27.40 | XorA | lardman|meeting: nope |
| 12:27.40 | jnc | haven't tried lately |
| 12:28.05 | hrw|work | Host www.oesf.org not found: 2(SERVFAIL) |
| 12:28.33 | jnc | might be #level3 backbone failed |
| 12:28.45 | jnc | or simple dns troubles |
| 12:28.48 | jnc | i have no idea |
| 12:29.03 | |tbb| | i have tried all net commands with options but im not getting same result as on my lovly linux smb4k |
| 12:34.07 | |tbb| | thats very sad cause i would like to develop a tool on windows which shows any pcs up in a workgroup while im connected to one pc |
| 12:35.25 | hrw|work | then use Win32 API |
| 12:35.34 | hrw|work | probably there are methods for it |
| 12:39.35 | |tbb| | i havent found something, which keyword would you suggest |
| 12:40.27 | hrw|work | years passed since last time I had to use win32 api |
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| 14:36.08 | _gmg | hi all |
| 14:36.16 | XorA | hi |
| 14:42.15 | _gmg | i have a problem to boot from sd |
| 14:42.28 | _gmg | i made a bootimage with the rboot scripts |
| 14:42.43 | _gmg | and installed the bootmanager |
| 14:42.55 | _gmg | but i cannot boot from sd |
| 14:44.42 | _gmg | is it necessary to format the whole card |
| 14:45.00 | _gmg | i forgot it is a sl5500 |
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| 14:47.29 | XorA | _gmg: sorry never tried rboot |
| 14:48.49 | XorA | ~lart gnome/gtk people for thinking everyone has 24bit display |
| 14:49.55 | _gmg | is there any other way to boot from sd |
| 14:50.10 | XorA | _gmg: 3.5.4 will contain altboot |
| 14:50.14 | XorA | Ibeleive |
| 14:50.24 | XorA | which is like rboot but is integrated with OS |
| 14:50.46 | _gmg | really? |
| 14:51.00 | _gmg | is it released? |
| 14:51.10 | XorA | not yet |
| 14:52.31 | hrw|work | altboot is released in hentegs.net version of OZ |
| 14:54.13 | _gmg | is there a homepage for hentegs |
| 14:55.05 | XorA | ~hentges |
| 14:55.19 | XorA | bah, no-one told ibot about that yet |
| 14:55.44 | hrw|work | http://hentges.net |
| 14:56.01 | _gmg | now i got some hits |
| 14:56.15 | hrw|work | http://hentges.net/misc/openzaurus/docs/altboot.shtml |
| 14:58.37 | sheepbat | bah, no boxer support |
| 15:00.16 | XorA | ~boxer |
| 15:00.18 | ibot | it has been said that boxer is Sharp SL-C860, or a dog. |
| 15:00.55 | XorA | sheepbat: patience will be required then |
| 15:01.11 | sheepbat | darn |
| 15:01.14 | sheepbat | oh well |
| 15:01.18 | sheepbat | who came up with these names? |
| 15:01.27 | XorA | when 3.5.4 hits the streets I might do a special version which doesnt use altboot to run off SD |
| 15:02.03 | hrw|work | sheepbat: sharp like dogs.. |
| 15:02.19 | hrw|work | XorA: root=/dev/mmcblk0p1 one? |
| 15:02.43 | XorA | hrw|work: yeah |
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| 15:03.38 | XorA | hrw|work: and maybe a root=/dev/hda1 :-) |
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| 15:19.13 | hrw|work | http://www.hrw.one.pl/2005/10/27/prism-firmware-features/ if someone need it |
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| 15:31.25 | tanq | hey hrw|work |
| 15:31.30 | hrw|work | hi tanq |
| 15:31.52 | tanq | i stumbled onto some other stuff with gpe again.. |
| 15:32.20 | tanq | now when i boot into either 353 or 354 w/ gpe i get a bunch of messages for tests failing and libs not being there |
| 15:32.55 | tanq | so my question is.... |
| 15:32.55 | hrw|work | could you list them in bugraport? |
| 15:33.27 | tanq | what can i do to truly flash everything except the sharp prom |
| 15:33.38 | tanq | if prom is the right word for it |
| 15:34.15 | hrw|work | basically any OZ image + OZ kernel should work |
| 15:34.19 | tanq | i'm thinking that something was overwritten and the 3.5.3 updater isnt writing ot over again |
| 15:34.32 | tanq | well i can't get back to the useable 353 w/gpe that i was running before |
| 15:34.47 | tanq | there is something w/ 354 that mucked it up |
| 15:35.00 | tanq | and i'm wondering if it has to do with the updater.sh for 3.5.4 poodle |
| 15:36.42 | hrw|work | tried with the one from 3.5.3? |
| 15:37.19 | tanq | yeah |
| 15:37.29 | tanq | opie works on both |
| 15:37.48 | tanq | but after i tried to flash to 354 w/gpe i can't use gpe on 353 either |
| 15:38.06 | hrw|work | so you are able to flash oz 3.5.4 with updater.sh from 3.5.3 and 3.5.4 - yes? |
| 15:38.31 | tanq | no you can't flash to 3.5.4 with the updater from 3.5.3 on poodle |
| 15:38.44 | tanq | well at least it didnt work for me |
| 15:38.57 | tanq | there seems to be an additional write or erase in the 354 updater |
| 15:39.50 | hrw|work | maybe - I never looked into updater.sh |
| 15:42.56 | tanq | do you know who updated it? |
| 15:43.17 | tanq | man.. is there a web cvs for oz? |
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| 15:43.58 | hrw|work | we use monotone |
| 15:45.30 | tanq | is there a web interface setup for monotone? |
| 15:46.17 | hrw|work | only change for poodle/updater.sh was adding B500 as alias for SL-5600 |
| 15:46.18 | tanq | all i want is gpe to work again |
| 15:46.19 | tanq | heh |
| 15:46.24 | hrw|work | http://oe-devel.bkbits.net:8080/openembedded/gnupatch@42adff23GfItKjXCbsd3_uk_0dQehw |
| 15:46.39 | tanq | well actually i can diff it.. |
| 15:46.39 | hrw|work | its so old change that is is in BK tree.. |
| 15:46.46 | tanq | i think it might be more than that |
| 15:48.43 | hrw|work | http://oe-devel.bkbits.net:8080/openembedded/anno/packages/zaurus-updater/poodle/updater.sh@1.3?nav=cset@1.3190.127.67 is whole history of poodle/updater.sh iirc |
| 15:49.51 | tanq | hmmm |
| 15:50.06 | tanq | ok on a side note.. |
| 15:52.57 | hrw|work | yes? |
| 15:53.06 | tanq | if i modify updater.sh to allow me to write / to sd what files do i have to have on the zaurus or is that even possible |
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| 15:53.51 | lardman|work | bloody meeting! |
| 15:54.00 | tanq | actually that probably isn't that great of an idea.. |
| 15:54.12 | hrw|work | tanq: flash normally, install altbook and then use it to move / on sd |
| 15:54.13 | tanq | what i really want to do is put /usr and /home on my sd |
| 15:54.20 | hrw|work | altboot I meant |
| 15:54.45 | hrw|work | on poodle you have /home in flash - ~32M for it |
| 15:55.10 | tanq | yeah what mtd is that |
| 15:55.31 | tanq | sometimes i want it erased before i flash |
| 15:55.39 | tanq | since it retains user preferences. |
| 15:56.34 | hrw|work | /dev/mtdblock3 /home jffs2 defaults,noatime 1 2 |
| 15:57.03 | tanq | guess i could have got that myself.. |
| 15:57.20 | tanq | i'm a little scatterbrained this morning |
| 15:58.13 | tanq | i'm going to try gpe from 3.5.2 and see if i still have the same problem |
| 15:59.00 | tanq | and the good thing is i found my stylus after 3 weeks |
| 15:59.04 | tanq | =) |
| 16:00.43 | hrw|work | ;) |
| 16:00.57 | hrw|work | I had to buy new one - old felt and broke |
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| 16:18.39 | lardman|work | How are kernel drivers for usb devices organised for other distros - for example if I want mass-storage, I need a whole raft of kernel modules, should I make a task package for them all (etc.)? |
| 16:19.37 | hrw|work | you need usb-storage sd_mod (iirc) |
| 16:20.54 | hrw|work | it was months ago when I had it in modules.. |
| 16:24.05 | lardman|work | I think there's another one too isn't there? |
| 16:24.15 | lardman|work | In any case, it's not all that obvious |
| 16:24.30 | hrw|work | scsi core, usb core |
| 16:25.22 | lardman|work | usbcore is required anyway, so yes: usb-storage, sd_mod & scsicore or however it's called |
| 16:26.08 | lardman|work | Hmm, then again, I suppose usb-storage depends on the others, so they would be installed anyway |
| 16:27.11 | tanq | this isnt good... my z wont even turn on now |
| 16:27.59 | lardman|work | Time to NAND restore? |
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| 16:28.09 | tanq | lardman|work: ? |
| 16:28.48 | lardman|work | I managed to break mine by so I could flash, but nothing else, so I did a NAND restore and all was good in the/my world |
| 16:29.05 | tanq | where can i get a nand image for the 5600 |
| 16:29.29 | hrw|work | conics.net or trisoft.de maybe |
| 16:29.45 | lardman|work | pocketworkstation.org? |
| 16:30.06 | lardman|work | ah, it's not there tho |
| 16:30.13 | lardman|work | FYI http://pocketworkstation.org/files/recover/ |
| 16:32.35 | hrw|work | http://downloads.conics.net/pda/zaurus-sl-B500/bios-up-02.html |
| 16:33.16 | hrw|work | heh.. thats not nand |
| 16:34.00 | lardman|work | it's soooo slow |
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| 16:44.38 | tanq | do you think i should be able to power it on at least? |
| 16:44.49 | tanq | i can't even power it on after flashing to 352 |
| 16:45.53 | tanq | i'm wondering if its the contrast |
| 16:46.17 | lardman|work | can you get the flashing menu, etc.? |
| 16:47.14 | tanq | nope |
| 16:47.47 | lardman|work | Really? that's not a good sign |
| 16:48.05 | tanq | i wonder if my battery went out |
| 16:48.26 | lardman|work | How do you flash, do yo uhave to call up a menu first, or just the keypress thing like the 5500? |
| 16:48.32 | tanq | menu |
| 16:48.39 | lardman|work | what about the d+m menu |
| 16:48.42 | tanq | ok now it came up |
| 16:49.09 | lardman|work | I reckon do a NAND restore (assuming you can find a NAND image) |
| 16:49.27 | tanq | is there one on oesf |
| 16:49.32 | tanq | and why is oesf always down |
| 16:49.37 | tanq | is there a bandwidth cap on it? |
| 16:49.50 | lardman|work | not sure, I've certainly seen people asking about them on oesf, so I'm sure you'd be able to find a link there |
| 16:50.39 | lardman|work | Regarding it's being down, not sure, I've not seen it down for a while though |
| 16:51.01 | tanq | it has been down everytime i've tried to access it in the past 3 days |
| 16:51.16 | lardman|work | Oh, I've had no troubles until this morning |
| 16:51.40 | tanq | i think that is because its on handhelds right? |
| 16:51.44 | lardman|work | nope |
| 16:52.05 | lardman|work | I don;'t know where it is actually, it's nothing to do with handhelds or openembedded.org |
| 16:53.32 | lardman|work | Anyone running RP's new dev kernel? |
| 16:53.51 | tanq | which z? |
| 16:54.34 | lardman|work | c7x0 |
| 16:56.22 | tanq | ok lets cross our fingers.. |
| 16:56.35 | tanq | trying gpe on 354(poodle) again.. |
| 16:56.48 | tanq | maybe it will be like windows and just work after |
| 16:56.49 | tanq | nope |
| 16:57.26 | lardman|work | if the flash partitioning has become corrupt, then no amount of flashing is likely to fix it until you do a NAND restore (this is my understanding anyway) |
| 16:57.34 | tanq | I wonder why I would get an errore like /etc/rc5.d/S1Dropbear: 17: test not found |
| 16:57.54 | tanq | and then its like everything in /etc/rc5.d isnt found |
| 16:57.54 | lardman|work | oh, it booted did it? |
| 16:57.59 | tanq | yeah.. |
| 16:58.08 | tanq | this is with the 354 rc(poodle) |
| 16:58.11 | tanq | for gpe |
| 16:58.24 | tanq | but the same kernel works with opie |
| 16:58.27 | lardman|work | perhaps the flash has got itself mixed up and has lost the files |
| 16:59.15 | tanq | is there a way to wipe out the initrd are to make sure its clean |
| 16:59.20 | tanq | s/are/area |
| 16:59.39 | tanq | can i do a dd over from a bootstrap |
| 16:59.55 | lardman|work | no idea, but you're asking for troubles if you get the size wrong... |
| 17:00.03 | lardman|work | home time, night all |
| 17:06.38 | hrw|work | cu |
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| 17:23.31 | folkert | does anyone know of a case that fits a zaurus SL-5600? |
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| 17:26.27 | folkert | I like the leather case of Piel Frama (http://www.pielframa.com/Sharp.Zaurus.htm) |
| 17:27.14 | folkert | but the 5600 has a bigger battery than the 5500, so I don't know whether it would fit or not |
| 17:28.12 | sheepbat | hmm.. does it have a big black hunk of plastic/metal that extends the back? |
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| 17:28.54 | folkert | yes, it has. While the 5500 has a rather flat back |
| 17:29.59 | folkert | I tried to contact the firm a while ago by e-mail, but they don't respond |
| 17:30.08 | sheepbat | sharp? |
| 17:30.11 | sheepbat | oh.. pielframa |
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| 18:28.44 | shdw_work | anyone know what's going on with oesf.org? |
| 18:29.11 | sheepbat | down again? |
| 18:29.13 | sheepbat | hmm |
| 18:29.25 | sheepbat | I've never found the site to be particularly reliable anyway.. |
| 18:29.26 | shdw_work | I haven't been able to get to it ll day |
| 18:29.39 | shdw_work | oh? |
| 18:29.50 | sheepbat | not connection stuff |
| 18:29.58 | sheepbat | but php problems |
| 18:32.20 | shdw_work | oh... no I can't even get a lookup on the domain today |
| 18:32.39 | sheepbat | nasty... |
| 18:33.29 | shdw_work | I've tried from three different ISP's so far, none of them have the info |
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| 18:58.47 | _gmg | does anyone have the original image of the collie |
| 18:59.12 | _gmg | i need it for the opera |
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| 19:19.55 | sirmaxworld | hi all |
| 19:20.15 | sirmaxworld | which xmms version runs under openzaurus 3.5.3 |
| 19:27.44 | sirmaxworld | I mean 3.5.2 :) |
| 19:28.25 | sirmaxworld | with opie |
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