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| 01:05.30 | tanq | all i want for christmas is to have gpe working again |
| 01:05.39 | sheepbat | haha.. awwww... |
| 01:05.50 | tanq | its depressing |
| 01:05.51 | tanq | heh |
| 01:06.05 | sheepbat | manually delete everything? |
| 01:06.10 | sheepbat | like an rm -rf /+ |
| 01:06.11 | sheepbat | ? |
| 01:09.46 | tanq | man this is just weird |
| 01:11.27 | sheepbat | what is? |
| 01:11.58 | tanq | there is something weird about 3.5.2 where my z won't even power on |
| 01:13.00 | tanq | it's repeatable so i have no idea |
| 01:13.24 | sheepbat | and it's definitely not the battery? |
| 01:14.13 | tanq | nope.. it only happens with 3.5.2 |
| 01:14.14 | tanq | heh |
| 01:14.24 | tanq | man none of this started until i flashed to 3.5.4 |
| 01:14.47 | tanq | its either 3.5.4 or coincedence that i can no longer use 3.5.4 and 3.5.2 wont power on |
| 01:15.38 | sheepbat | hmm.. I wonder if the install CDs have an initial NAND backup on them.. |
| 01:15.47 | tanq | i dont think so |
| 01:16.30 | tanq | i havent been able to find the nand for the 5600 |
| 01:17.10 | sheepbat | hrm.. |
| 01:19.02 | sheepbat | did you try that thing on conics? |
| 01:19.13 | tanq | yeah it wasnt the nand |
| 01:20.26 | sheepbat | right |
| 01:26.08 | [lemur] | anyone know where to pickup a 5500 besides ebay? |
| 01:27.17 | sheepbat | dynamism or conics? |
| 01:27.56 | sheepbat | ahh.. dynamism only has the c3000... |
| 01:28.12 | [lemur] | yeah |
| 01:28.17 | [lemur] | i havent checked conics but i will |
| 01:28.21 | sheepbat | and conics' lowest seems to be the .700 |
| 01:29.52 | [lemur] | wish i could afford a c3100 |
| 01:30.41 | sheepbat | as do I |
| 01:31.19 | [lemur] | what do you have? |
| 01:31.23 | sheepbat | c860 |
| 01:31.45 | sheepbat | it's a nice unit, but unfortunately openzaurus is a bit unstable |
| 01:38.43 | [lemur] | i guess i am going to have to get one of ebay |
| 01:39.48 | sheepbat | bad experience off ebay? |
| 01:42.44 | [lemur] | no, i would just prefer to get one from a store i guess |
| 01:42.50 | sheepbat | ahh.. right |
| 01:42.58 | sheepbat | a warranty and all that |
| 01:43.13 | [lemur] | but the upside is i can get one with a wireless card and maybe some more extra's |
| 01:43.31 | [lemur] | i just don't want it to crap out on me 3 days later |
| 01:43.43 | sheepbat | agreed |
| 01:43.51 | sheepbat | I thought mine did so the night I got it |
| 01:43.59 | sheepbat | ..fortunately, I was able to fix it |
| 01:44.16 | [lemur] | that would not have been good, heh |
| 01:44.51 | sheepbat | yep |
| 01:44.59 | sheepbat | just remember not to underclock your unit |
| 01:45.12 | sheepbat | it'll make the digitizer go wonky |
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| 01:49.53 | orangey | hey all! |
| 01:50.08 | orangey | is there ompi somewhere? |
| 01:50.15 | sheepbat | ompi? |
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| 02:19.26 | tanq | f |
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| 02:26.05 | orangey | OpieMail/PI |
| 02:26.14 | tanq | hrmm |
| 02:26.19 | orangey | speaking of which, what browsers are there for opie? |
| 02:26.24 | tanq | i need some way to get gpe working again |
| 02:26.29 | orangey | I just see Konq-embedded, which (if you'll excuse me) sucks. |
| 02:26.30 | tanq | this is driving me crazy |
| 02:27.09 | sheepbat | I believe it's *possible* to get opera running on opie |
| 02:27.13 | sheepbat | but not particularly easy |
| 02:27.21 | sheepbat | there's a thread somewhere on oesf.org that'll tell you how |
| 02:27.34 | orangey | sheepbat: woohoo!! any hints? |
| 02:27.48 | tanq | i want mplayer to work on opie |
| 02:28.00 | sheepbat | audio works fine on mine, tanq |
| 02:28.05 | sheepbat | video's a little icky though |
| 02:28.20 | orangey | sheepbat: with mplayer? |
| 02:28.28 | orangey | sheepbat: what about minimo on opie? |
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| 02:28.40 | sheepbat | haven't tried that |
| 02:30.19 | orangey | hmmm. firefox works on opie? |
| 02:30.50 | tanq | sheepbat: i said nothing of audio.. i said i wanted mplayer |
| 02:30.50 | sheepbat | I'm not sure, but I believe both of those would require some form of x on the machine |
| 02:30.59 | sheepbat | that's what I mean |
| 02:31.03 | tanq | which is why i want gpe |
| 02:31.04 | sheepbat | mplayer's audio works fine on mine |
| 02:31.11 | sheepbat | but the video's a little icky |
| 02:31.15 | tanq | yeah but are you using opie or gpe |
| 02:31.18 | orangey | people are talking about it on OX |
| 02:31.18 | sheepbat | opie |
| 02:31.21 | orangey | OZ even |
| 02:31.26 | tanq | i thought mplayer needed gpe to run |
| 02:31.47 | tanq | sheepbat: do you run it via command line or is there a gui in the feed? |
| 02:31.47 | sheepbat | well... it's a little iffy there |
| 02:32.06 | sheepbat | i haven't tried it yet, but there's a frontend called zplayer that uses mplayer |
| 02:32.09 | sheepbat | that or kino2 |
| 02:32.17 | sheepbat | brb |
| 02:32.46 | tanq | i don't think the zImage in 3.5.4 RC is new |
| 02:32.57 | tanq | it looks like the zImage from 3.5.3 |
| 02:35.08 | sheepbat | you compare md5s or something? |
| 02:35.25 | tanq | they don't have md5s in 3.5.4 |
| 02:35.33 | tanq | i just looked at timestamps after i logged |
| 02:35.36 | tanq | in |
| 02:35.49 | sheepbat | hmm |
| 02:36.05 | tanq | they're April |
| 02:36.07 | sheepbat | you could do an md5 on the zImage |
| 02:36.35 | orangey | kino = opie? |
| 02:37.05 | tanq | no |
| 02:37.19 | sheepbat | kino is a frontend for mplayer that runs on opie |
| 02:39.01 | tanq | i wish that force depends actually forced all the necessary libs to load as well for mplayer |
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| 02:49.20 | wpiku | hehe |
| 02:49.26 | wpiku | kino runs on opie? |
| 02:49.38 | wpiku | I wonder if someone got that BVDD driver working for kernel 2.6 |
| 02:49.43 | wpiku | in a way that the atty mplayer likes anyway |
| 02:49.45 | sheepbat | hmm.. actually, I'm not sure |
| 02:49.53 | wpiku | I went back to cacko... |
| 02:49.55 | sheepbat | I know it runs on the official rom though |
| 02:49.57 | wpiku | and I installed the new BVDD SDL |
| 02:50.00 | wpiku | and it's completely bitchin |
| 02:50.02 | sheepbat | what does that do? |
| 02:50.12 | wpiku | resolution, rotation, and keymapping all perfect and automatic |
| 02:50.25 | tanq | where do you get the oz 2.6 kernel? |
| 02:50.28 | wpiku | SDL is the graphics/sound library for games like doom, quake, etc |
| 02:50.37 | sheepbat | it's used by default, tanq |
| 02:50.43 | wpiku | tanq, it's under linux in the openembedded tree |
| 02:50.43 | sheepbat | I mean, what does BVDD do |
| 02:50.53 | sheepbat | oh.. the kernel source.. |
| 02:51.06 | sheepbat | yeah, what he said, I think |
| 02:56.28 | orangey | hmmmm. |
| 02:56.34 | orangey | anyone know how to change the keyboard size in opie? |
| 02:58.57 | sheepbat | not the size, but the type |
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| 03:09.59 | tanq | wpiku: on openembedded.org? |
| 03:10.28 | tanq | i think it's down now |
| 03:10.29 | wpiku | tanq, well in the monotone repository |
| 03:10.38 | wpiku | tanq, for slc3k you can find it in the 3.5.4 feed |
| 03:10.50 | tanq | i have the 5600 |
| 03:11.46 | orangey | sheepbat: what do you mean the type? |
| 03:12.06 | orangey | sheepbat: the writing area, quite frankly, is too small.. I sense it wasn't designed for this 640x480 screen.. |
| 03:12.30 | sheepbat | meaning there are different layouts available |
| 03:12.41 | sheepbat | unfortunately, none of them are really bigger |
| 03:15.05 | orangey | hmmm.. |
| 03:15.13 | orangey | also, is there an instant messenger for opie? |
| 03:15.21 | sheepbat | gaim's available for it |
| 03:15.43 | sheepbat | not *completely* bug-free, but it works well enough |
| 03:16.35 | kolla | isnt gaim gtk? |
| 03:16.41 | sheepbat | yes, but it's been ported |
| 03:17.03 | kolla | qaim :) |
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| 03:34.36 | orangey | qte-gaim , but the last release of that was a loooong time ago. |
| 03:34.47 | orangey | OK.. these solutions suck. |
| 03:34.54 | sheepbat | true |
| 03:35.13 | orangey | I have to find some way of running KO/Pi on GPE |
| 03:35.17 | orangey | so, what are the options here? |
| 03:35.34 | sheepbat | hmm.. never tried that myself.. |
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| 04:44.26 | lemur | w00t, i am getting a Zaurus 5500 (of course) w/original box, cd, manual. screen cover, docking station with ac adapter and usb link, Linksys WCF12 802.11b Compact Flash, Lexar 256 MB SD, 32 MB Compact Flash, 3 way battery charger (usb, car, air zync), Handsfree earpiece speaker and microphone with plug adapter to fit the audio jack, Nifty little stylus/pen, and a double capacity battery |
| 04:45.57 | sheepbat | wooo! a stylus! |
| 04:46.19 | lemur | heh |
| 04:47.26 | lemur | not just a stylus, a nifty little stylus |
| 04:47.40 | sheepbat | off ebay? |
| 04:48.27 | lemur | oesf.org forums |
| 04:49.01 | lemur | and i almost bid on one at ebay like 2 hours ago |
| 04:49.04 | lemur | glad i didn't |
| 04:50.52 | lemur | i can't wait to load it up with Wellenreiter II, Kismet, Zethereal, Nmap, Ettercap, TCPDump, THC-Hydra and some other goodies and drive around looking for fun |
| 04:50.53 | lemur | ;] |
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| 06:45.39 | ryoohki | anyone using 2.6 on a sl-c760? |
| 06:46.27 | sheepbat | well, I'm using kernel 2.6 on a c860... |
| 06:51.01 | ryoohki | sheepbat, how is it? |
| 06:51.13 | ryoohki | sheepbat, how large a cf card is needed? |
| 06:51.49 | ryoohki | sheepbat, do you know if the sandisk connectplus wifi/128mb is working, yet? |
| 06:51.54 | sheepbat | it's a tad unstable |
| 06:52.00 | sheepbat | what is the cf card for? |
| 06:52.11 | sheepbat | and I don't use the connect plus |
| 06:54.09 | ryoohki | sheepbat, the cf card is for updating the rom |
| 06:54.22 | sheepbat | ahh.. hmm |
| 06:54.34 | sheepbat | I think you'd technically be okay with a 64 |
| 06:54.38 | sheepbat | but I'd go larger |
| 06:54.44 | sheepbat | get a 256 at least |
| 06:54.53 | ryoohki | it would hold the initrd, zimage, and updater.sh |
| 06:55.02 | sheepbat | do a NAND backup and transfer it to your computer first |
| 06:55.07 | ryoohki | sheepbat, i only have a 32mb |
| 06:55.21 | sheepbat | hmm... you might be able to get away with that |
| 06:55.23 | ryoohki | sheepbat, noy enough, right? |
| 06:55.33 | sheepbat | they'd be under 32 MiB |
| 06:55.39 | ryoohki | why bother with the nand backup? |
| 06:55.52 | sheepbat | well, they're always a good idea |
| 06:56.02 | sheepbat | and they'll be just above 128 MiB |
| 06:56.10 | ryoohki | is may 2005 the latest? i find that hard to believe |
| 06:56.26 | sheepbat | development isn't all that fast |
| 06:56.41 | sheepbat | there is an RC that may be coming, but I have no idea when it'll be officially released |
| 06:57.13 | ryoohki | sheepbat, where is this info in the web? www.openzaurus.org? |
| 06:57.18 | sheepbat | yes |
| 07:01.09 | orangey | hmmmmmm. |
| 07:01.15 | orangey | so I've discovered sharp compat libs |
| 07:01.20 | orangey | but which kapi works on them? |
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| 15:16.12 | tanq | anyone awake |
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| 15:31.25 | AppleBoy | no |
| 15:31.28 | AppleBoy | definitely not |
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| 16:00.06 | tanq | ahh thanks. |
| 16:00.10 | mickeyl | here i am |
| 16:00.26 | tanq | this is a bit of a help question. |
| 16:00.35 | tanq | i flashed to 354 rc on the 5600 w/ gpe |
| 16:00.47 | tanq | it didnt work and now 353 w/ gpe wont work either |
| 16:00.58 | tanq | any ideas on what would cause that? |
| 16:01.27 | tanq | in addition to that 352 won't even show a power on now |
| 16:01.29 | mickeyl | not a single hint. the 5600 is our bastard step child, since no OZ developer owns one. All we do is blindly compiling images. |
| 16:01.36 | tanq | gah |
| 16:01.48 | tanq | well thinking out of the box... |
| 16:01.52 | sheepbat | you're an actual developer? |
| 16:02.06 | tanq | in theory just regarding the flash of the zImage and initrd |
| 16:02.08 | mickeyl | who, me? kind of, yeah |
| 16:02.30 | tanq | what could have been written to that might still have lingering parts from 354 |
| 16:02.47 | tanq | i erased the home partition already |
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| 16:03.12 | mickeyl | you have a serial lead? |
| 16:03.52 | tanq | the usb connector? |
| 16:04.01 | mickeyl | ya |
| 16:04.05 | tanq | yep |
| 16:04.09 | mickeyl | usb to serial? |
| 16:04.17 | tanq | docking station |
| 16:04.22 | mickeyl | no, i mean the special sharp serial lead which plugs into the service port |
| 16:04.26 | tanq | no.. |
| 16:04.36 | tanq | did it come with one? |
| 16:04.41 | mickeyl | nope, extra stuff |
| 16:04.43 | tanq | i could hav swore i use to have one |
| 16:04.45 | tanq | doh.. |
| 16:04.52 | tanq | what can i do with that dev wise |
| 16:04.55 | mickeyl | hmm, ok. then the only option is to compile you a kernel with CMDLINE=console=tty1 so that you see kernel messages |
| 16:05.23 | tanq | well i modified updater.sh to give me /bin/sh |
| 16:05.40 | tanq | so i started poking around from there.. |
| 16:05.46 | tanq | didnt find much. |
| 16:06.01 | tanq | the original problem was that gpe-dm was missing som shared libs |
| 16:06.46 | tanq | so i didn't think much of it and flashed back to 353 w/ gpe.. and got the same error ther.. but...Opie works on both 353 and 356 |
| 16:06.48 | tanq | s/6/4 |
| 16:06.59 | mickeyl | ah, so opie works but just gpe not? |
| 16:07.08 | mickeyl | what exactly happens on boot then? |
| 16:07.23 | tanq | in which one gpe or opie |
| 16:07.30 | mickeyl | gpe |
| 16:07.59 | tanq | 1 second.. and i'll tell you exactly. |
| 16:08.35 | tanq | time change last night? |
| 16:08.54 | mickeyl | yea |
| 16:08.58 | tanq | doh |
| 16:10.51 | tanq | had to flash it real quick.. |
| 16:11.08 | tanq | also do you know if sharp will send you a nand image? |
| 16:11.16 | tanq | i thought about emailing their support.. |
| 16:11.23 | mickeyl | i doubt that they feel obliged to support anymore |
| 16:11.26 | tanq | heh |
| 16:11.26 | mickeyl | but you can always try |
| 16:12.11 | tanq | ok its booting now.. |
| 16:12.49 | tanq | there are a bunch of things that say "test not found" |
| 16:13.04 | tanq | basically everythin in /etc/rc5.d |
| 16:13.26 | mickeyl | hmm odd |
| 16:13.51 | tanq | then when gpe-dm starts it says "error while loading shared libraries: libglib-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 16:13.54 | mickeyl | i'm not too familiar with gpe anyway, but it would be good to know what's the last init script that runs |
| 16:14.08 | mickeyl | ah. that would mean we are missing some packages |
| 16:14.28 | tanq | the next line is(last line) /etc/rc5.d/s99rmnologin: 12: test not found |
| 16:14.42 | mickeyl | can you sum up what you've said here and write to oz-devel so we don't forget? I'll have a look at the image contents in my rootfs here when i have a chance |
| 16:15.01 | tanq | yeah wasnt sure where to file the bug report under |
| 16:15.33 | tanq | is this a gpe thing or a kernel thing |
| 16:16.01 | tanq | is the zImage the actual kernel? |
| 16:16.02 | mickeyl | GPE |
| 16:16.07 | mickeyl | yes, zImage is the kernel |
| 16:16.12 | tanq | and gpe is basically the whole os |
| 16:16.20 | mickeyl | well, gpe is more the GUI environment |
| 16:16.31 | mickeyl | below is a standard debian like bootstrap system |
| 16:16.38 | mickeyl | debian-derived even |
| 16:16.52 | tanq | that's what i've been trying to understand |
| 16:17.03 | tanq | when i get shell from updater.sh what shell am i getting |
| 16:17.10 | mickeyl | busybox ash |
| 16:17.12 | tanq | is this something that is part of a prom |
| 16:17.17 | tanq | or is it something from oz |
| 16:17.25 | mickeyl | that's a firmware part in a initrd in flash |
| 16:17.31 | mickeyl | which is write protected |
| 16:17.44 | mickeyl | but can be flashed, if you want (the cacko people do that to alter the partitioning on some models) |
| 16:21.26 | tanq | i need to setup oe |
| 16:22.03 | tanq | well mickeyl did you catch the part about not being able to use gpe on 353 now.. |
| 16:22.11 | tanq | that's what I've been using since april.. |
| 16:22.19 | tanq | and it doesn't work now.. ? |
| 16:22.51 | mickeyl | hmm, yeah, got that. |
| 16:23.08 | tanq | that part drives me crazy.. |
| 16:23.37 | mickeyl | odd indeed. there are people who use it |
| 16:23.47 | mickeyl | did you try another CF or SD to flash? |
| 16:23.51 | mickeyl | md5sum ? |
| 16:23.52 | tanq | i was even using it.. heh.. |
| 16:23.53 | mickeyl | filenames? |
| 16:24.25 | tanq | filenames? |
| 16:24.39 | mickeyl | sometimes the filenames are incorrect |
| 16:24.43 | mickeyl | sometimes the files are corrupt |
| 16:24.44 | mickeyl | etc. |
| 16:24.45 | mickeyl | those things |
| 16:24.56 | mickeyl | things which we mostly assume are correct are sometimes not |
| 16:25.11 | tanq | oh you mean initrd.bin zImage |
| 16:25.16 | mickeyl | yep |
| 16:25.23 | tanq | those were correct |
| 16:25.33 | tanq | otherwise updater.sh wouldn't show it |
| 16:25.46 | tanq | it would quit early |
| 16:25.49 | mickeyl | yea. checked the md5sums lately? |
| 16:25.58 | tanq | i'll double check again , but yes |
| 16:26.40 | mickeyl | you might ask on oz-devel for a NAND backup. sometimes (and i have no idea why) flashing back to SharpROM and then back to OZ works |
| 16:29.25 | tanq | i didnt know there was a nother channel |
| 16:29.37 | tanq | oh there's not |
| 16:29.39 | tanq | whats oz-devel |
| 16:29.43 | tanq | forum? |
| 16:33.22 | sheepbat | weird.. I thought there was one too.. |
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| 16:42.49 | tanq | wow gpe works.. again apparently i did not check the md5 on 353 when i downloaded it again |
| 16:43.02 | tanq | i had to download it 4 times to get the right md5 |
| 16:43.24 | sheepbat | hah.. it was the server |
| 16:43.35 | tanq | but 3.5.4 does not have md5 sums |
| 16:43.41 | tanq | and i did know that much.. heh |
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| 16:46.11 | tanq | mickeyl: can you create md5s for 354? |
| 16:46.50 | hrw | tanq: I can do it too - logging |
| 16:46.56 | tanq | thanks man |
| 16:47.56 | hrw | np |
| 16:54.17 | tanq | hrw: while you're waiting on mickey can you paste them in a message to me? |
| 16:55.11 | hrw | tanq: in few minutes md5 of all files will be available |
| 16:55.32 | tanq | ok. |
| 16:56.21 | hrw | tanq: in 3.5.4-RC is file: all-md5sums.txt |
| 16:57.32 | tanq | i got it.. thanks.. |
| 16:57.44 | tanq | and what do you know the md5 for gpe didn't match |
| 16:58.03 | sheepbat | hmm.. would I be able to use the 3.5.3's feed for programs? |
| 16:58.15 | tanq | that's what i was wondering. |
| 16:58.26 | tanq | it seemed to work ok for me sheepbat |
| 16:58.28 | tanq | when using opie |
| 16:58.33 | hrw | sheepbat: with cacko 1.2.3? no |
| 16:58.41 | sheepbat | no, with 3.5.4 |
| 16:58.50 | hrw | sheepbat: you didnt said that ;) |
| 16:58.57 | sheepbat | oh |
| 16:59.10 | sheepbat | did I not mention running 3.5.3 earlier in here? |
| 16:59.22 | sheepbat | if so, my apologies |
| 16:59.30 | tanq | is it a bandwidth cap or server location causing the slow downloads? |
| 16:59.41 | sheepbat | yes.. I was wondering that too.. |
| 16:59.54 | sheepbat | I wouldn't mind using a mirror, but they don't seem to have 3.5.4 |
| 17:01.53 | tanq | is that hosted on sourceforge? |
| 17:02.00 | hrw | yes;( |
| 17:02.32 | tanq | what are the stats like for downloads? |
| 17:02.44 | sheepbat | hmm.. I usually have no trouble with sourceforge |
| 17:02.52 | sheepbat | ...because of the multitude of mirrors.. |
| 17:03.20 | sheepbat | whoa.. |
| 17:03.22 | sheepbat | ..it's fast today |
| 17:03.32 | sheepbat | my bandwidth is saturated! |
| 17:03.33 | tanq | it depends on what you download |
| 17:03.49 | sheepbat | 3.5.4 |
| 17:03.59 | tanq | man gpe is huge compared to 353 gpe |
| 17:05.00 | sheepbat | man, the internet sucks |
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| 17:05.13 | sheepbat | oh goody.. |
| 17:05.22 | sheepbat | the second image is pooping out on me |
| 17:06.57 | tanq | cross your fingers for me |
| 17:07.02 | tanq | maybe it will work this time |
| 17:09.48 | tanq | good got 354 w/ gpe boots |
| 17:10.01 | hrw | poodle iirc? |
| 17:10.07 | tanq | yes poodle |
| 17:10.26 | hrw | how does 3.5.4 kernel works on poodle? |
| 17:10.27 | tanq | for some reason when i download through firefox it gets mangled |
| 17:10.30 | hrw | better then 3.5.3 one? |
| 17:10.39 | tanq | no idea i'm just getting into it.. |
| 17:10.45 | hrw | ok |
| 17:10.47 | tanq | actually i'm stuck at the splash screen right now |
| 17:10.56 | hrw | it take some time first time |
| 17:11.09 | hrw | generating ssh keys, configuring packages |
| 17:11.10 | hrw | etc |
| 17:11.18 | tanq | there it goes.. now its scrolling messages. |
| 17:12.04 | tanq | there's one bug.. heh |
| 17:12.15 | sheepbat | hmm.. I don't suppose you could DCC me a copy of all that stuff, could you? |
| 17:12.37 | tanq | a copy of what? |
| 17:12.46 | sheepbat | GPE and the kernel |
| 17:13.04 | hrw | sheepbat: for? |
| 17:13.52 | sheepbat | so I can use it on mine |
| 17:14.07 | hrw | sheepbat: you too have poodle? |
| 17:14.09 | sheepbat | I suspect the server won't let me download it from there |
| 17:14.09 | tanq | i have the 5600.. why don't you download it |
| 17:14.10 | sheepbat | no |
| 17:14.12 | sheepbat | boxer |
| 17:14.21 | hrw | sheepbat: so fetch it for own machine |
| 17:14.23 | sheepbat | ohh.. right... |
| 17:14.31 | sheepbat | I can't |
| 17:14.34 | tanq | i can't use my stylus... arg |
| 17:14.34 | sheepbat | teh server won't let me |
| 17:14.45 | sheepbat | wait.. hmm |
| 17:14.47 | sheepbat | it's working again |
| 17:15.04 | sheepbat | the server tends to be *extremely* troublesome |
| 17:15.20 | sheepbat | ..like right now |
| 17:15.21 | tanq | what model is it |
| 17:15.26 | sheepbat | c860 |
| 17:16.30 | hrw | tanq: touchscreen does not react? |
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| 17:24.49 | tanq | the sequence is that I calibrate, then get to the user setup |
| 17:25.11 | hrw | calibrate works? |
| 17:25.19 | tanq | in the user setup anytime i clikc in a box it doesnt move to that box but instead keeps adding the last selected key in the keyboard |
| 17:25.35 | tanq | which i can overcome by navigating |
| 17:25.43 | tanq | then i get to Home in gpe |
| 17:25.51 | tanq | and the touchscreen does not react. |
| 17:26.01 | tanq | i still have to navigate with the buttons |
| 17:26.42 | sheepbat | the install doesn't erase the home dir by default, right? |
| 17:26.46 | tanq | it seems like i had this same problem with 3.5.3 was in rc |
| 17:26.48 | hrw | sheepbat: no |
| 17:27.35 | tanq | hrw: what do you think about adding the cacko tools.tar to the setup? so we can use ncurses in the updater.sh |
| 17:27.35 | sheepbat | ..is that a "no it does", or a "no, it doesn't"? |
| 17:27.42 | tanq | no it doesnt sheepbat |
| 17:27.53 | sheepbat | 'kay |
| 17:28.10 | hrw | tanq: what for? updater.sh has to be simple |
| 17:29.03 | hrw | start, install kernel, install rootfs, reboot |
| 17:29.38 | tanq | well in cacko it lets you erase home |
| 17:29.51 | tanq | and i think it allows some repartitioning |
| 17:30.05 | hrw | OZ does not support partition changes |
| 17:30.17 | hrw | user could erase home by mistake... |
| 17:32.56 | sheepbat | is there a changelog available for 3.5.4 yet? |
| 17:33.10 | tanq | its just an /sbin/eraseall on RW_MTD |
| 17:33.27 | hrw | sheepbat: hard to generate it is.. |
| 17:33.33 | sheepbat | 'k |
| 17:33.38 | hrw | sheepbat: look at gpe 2.7 changelog, opie 1.2.1 changelog |
| 17:33.52 | sheepbat | and that's the majority of it/ |
| 17:33.53 | sheepbat | ? |
| 17:33.58 | hrw | OE changelog is over 2M and its hard to read |
| 17:34.11 | sheepbat | ahh.. okay |
| 17:34.14 | hrw | sheepbat: no - 2.6 kernel changelog would be also needed to read |
| 17:34.24 | sheepbat | 'k |
| 17:35.22 | hrw | sheepbat: OE is used to build many distros - not only PDA related so building OZ changelog from OE changes is hard |
| 17:35.41 | sheepbat | okay |
| 17:37.34 | hrw | and we freezed 3.5.4 some time ago so only needed bugfixes goes into it |
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| 17:44.14 | hrw | for example OPIE after 1.2.1 got some hires tweaks |
| 17:44.27 | sheepbat | oo.. sweet |
| 17:44.41 | sheepbat | so the taskbar won't be ultra-tiny anymore? |
| 17:45.18 | hrw | thats matter of qpe.conf which is tweaked too |
| 17:45.30 | hrw | but now you can set that size in settings/appearance |
| 17:46.17 | hrw | I wrote that additional settings |
| 17:49.47 | hrw | and some other bugfixes - look in Changelog in opie cvs |
| 17:50.09 | sheepbat | will do, after a flash |
| 17:50.45 | hrw | http://handhelds.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/~checkout~/opie/ChangeLog?rev=1.180 |
| 17:52.30 | sheepbat | hmm.. site seems to be nonfunctional.. |
| 17:53.03 | hrw | you got hit by dns |
| 17:53.30 | hrw | sheepbat: http://pastebin.ca/27076 |
| 17:54.33 | sheepbat | thanks |
| 17:55.14 | tanq | quick ipkg question |
| 17:55.27 | hrw | go |
| 17:55.37 | tanq | where is that file that lists the feeds in it |
| 17:55.41 | tanq | no tipkg.conf |
| 17:55.55 | hrw | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:00.13 | tanq | i thought sshd was installed by default |
| 18:00.23 | hrw | dropbear is installed |
| 18:00.57 | hrw | which is ssh-daemon, ssh-client and secure-copy - 3-in-1 in ~180K |
| 18:01.58 | tanq | how do you start it.. wasn't openssh on here before |
| 18:02.14 | hrw | openssh was in <3.5 times |
| 18:02.26 | tanq | i got it.. |
| 18:03.13 | hrw | I remember time when I was booting 3.5-alpha on my collie... noone did that before iirc |
| 18:05.12 | sheepbat | oh yeah... |
| 18:05.25 | sheepbat | is there any way to get to the f-keys using a clamshell? |
| 18:06.09 | hrw | esc+1 = f1 and so on to f10 |
| 18:06.17 | sheepbat | 'k |
| 18:06.24 | sheepbat | f11 and f12 are inacessible then? |
| 18:06.45 | hrw | maybe esc+shift+1 but rather not |
| 18:06.58 | sheepbat | 'k |
| 18:07.14 | sheepbat | hmm.. 3.5.4 doesn't have that fancy graphical bootup, does it |
| 18:07.25 | hrw | rc does not have it |
| 18:07.26 | tanq | ug.. |
| 18:07.32 | hrw | final release - who knows.. |
| 18:08.06 | sheepbat | honestly fine by me |
| 18:08.06 | tanq | now where does the config live for dropbear |
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| 18:08.07 | _gmg | hi |
| 18:08.09 | tanq | i can't auth for some reason |
| 18:08.10 | sheepbat | hi |
| 18:13.41 | sheepbat | okay.. where can one tweak sizes? |
| 18:16.01 | hrw | start settings/appearance |
| 18:16.05 | hrw | last tab |
| 18:16.46 | sheepbat | yeah.. I don't see it |
| 18:17.03 | sheepbat | agh.. and SD doesn't seem to be working either |
| 18:17.21 | hrw | sheepbat: ok. so -rc got older version |
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| 18:18.17 | hrw | sheepbat: you can test my package: ipkg install http://home.hrw.one.pl/tmp/opie-appearance_1.2.1-r1_armv5te.ipk but it can or cannot work with 3.5.4-rc |
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| 18:20.24 | sheepbat | wow.. opie-console's a little screwy.. |
| 18:20.36 | hrw | in what meaning? |
| 18:21.10 | sheepbat | the prompt text itself is in the proper place all the way to the left |
| 18:21.30 | sheepbat | but the first typable character looks like it has double width |
| 18:21.43 | hrw | ok - got wrong font then.. |
| 18:21.45 | sheepbat | and is about a centimeter and a half to the right |
| 18:21.56 | hrw | you need to change font in settings |
| 18:22.11 | sheepbat | okay |
| 18:22.44 | sheepbat | done |
| 18:24.09 | sheepbat | and it looks like it works |
| 18:24.15 | sheepbat | thanks again |
| 18:24.24 | hrw | np |
| 18:24.47 | hrw | hmm.. I got 201K/s from sf.net |
| 18:24.58 | hrw | ~hail secure copy |
| 18:25.01 | ibot | ACTION bows down to secure copy and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 18:25.15 | sheepbat | doesn't actually seem to change the toolbar size |
| 18:26.01 | hrw | opie reboot required for that change |
| 18:26.08 | sheepbat | yeah, trying that now |
| 18:26.18 | sheepbat | one more question: |
| 18:26.23 | sheepbat | is it necessary to run as root/ |
| 18:26.24 | sheepbat | ? |
| 18:26.43 | hrw | opie currently does not support non-root mode |
| 18:26.50 | sheepbat | 'k |
| 18:28.32 | sheepbat | much better |
| 18:31.58 | sheepbat | do I have to load a module for SD support/ |
| 18:31.59 | sheepbat | ? |
| 18:32.40 | hrw | no |
| 18:32.52 | hrw | could you re-insert it? it shouldwork |
| 18:32.58 | sheepbat | tried that |
| 18:33.20 | sheepbat | manual mount didn't work either |
| 18:33.51 | hrw | do you have /dev/mmcblk* entries? |
| 18:34.10 | sheepbat | oh.. odd.. |
| 18:34.13 | sheepbat | it *is* working |
| 18:34.21 | hrw | :) |
| 18:34.21 | sheepbat | it just didn't show up in the little card manager thingy |
| 18:34.40 | hrw | it is CF only |
| 18:34.46 | sheepbat | ahh |
| 18:34.58 | sheepbat | it was SD too with 3.5.3 |
| 18:35.41 | hrw | its other applet now |
| 18:36.10 | sheepbat | which one? |
| 18:36.22 | hrw | now its opie-pcmciaapplet |
| 18:36.25 | hrw | was opie-cardmon |
| 18:36.38 | sheepbat | ahh.. okay |
| 18:37.05 | sheepbat | cardmon give problems? |
| 18:37.17 | hrw | pcmciaapplet allow more |
| 18:37.59 | sheepbat | ahh |
| 18:38.04 | sheepbat | just not SD ;) |
| 18:38.21 | hrw | sd just works |
| 18:39.21 | sheepbat | 'k |
| 18:39.29 | sheepbat | thanks for answering all these questions |
| 18:39.58 | hrw | ok |
| 18:40.30 | hrw | I can get any PDA related hardware, pci wifi card (prism2 based) etc :) |
| 18:41.21 | hrw | HA! |
| 18:41.34 | hrw | I know WHY people get broken font in opie-console |
| 18:41.42 | sheepbat | yes? |
| 18:41.57 | hrw | they used 'fixed' one before... and saved settings |
| 18:42.06 | sheepbat | and that causes problems |
| 18:42.08 | hrw | oz 3.5.4 does not have 'fixed' font so it get first one |
| 18:42.28 | sheepbat | ahh |
| 18:42.36 | sheepbat | ..which is one that doesn't work too well |
| 18:43.25 | hrw | I dont know there it is solution for it.. |
| 18:43.56 | sheepbat | gotta go |
| 18:44.00 | sheepbat | thanks again |
| 18:44.01 | hrw | cu |
| 19:14.56 | ryoohki | so 3.8.4 is out or is it beta? |
| 19:15.16 | hrw | 3.5.4 is RC |
| 19:15.21 | hrw | currently |
| 19:16.19 | hrw | 3.5.4-final planned for next month |
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