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| 00:38.50 | axi | i'm trying to install openzaurus 3.5.4, but when i reset and try to flash from SD card, don't detect the updater file, what's the correct name? updater.sh? |
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| 00:51.51 | fbjon | I think so |
| 00:52.05 | fbjon | perhaps another file is missing? |
| 00:54.26 | axi | hum gpe is neccesary? |
| 00:54.36 | axi | if i want to install only opie.. |
| 00:55.28 | fbjon | no idea, actually I use Cacko :) |
| 00:58.09 | xiaowen | No, just get the opie image. |
| 01:14.07 | axi | now i rename it but |
| 01:14.29 | axi | it detect perfect a model, but it says finished and don't flash anything |
| 01:14.38 | axi | i rename it to updater.sh and works |
| 01:14.53 | sheepbat | yes, updater.sh is one necessary file |
| 01:14.58 | sheepbat | the others are initrd.bin a |
| 01:15.03 | sheepbat | *and zImage.bin |
| 01:15.07 | sheepbat | (note capitalization) |
| 01:15.08 | axi | sheepbat but in 3.5.4 |
| 01:15.15 | sheepbat | same in both |
| 01:15.18 | axi | don't provide those files |
| 01:15.20 | sheepbat | you just have to rename the files |
| 01:15.29 | sheepbat | one says zImage<something>bin |
| 01:15.35 | sheepbat | rename it to just zImage.bin |
| 01:15.45 | sheepbat | the other one gets renamed to initrd.bin |
| 01:15.51 | axi | bootstrap-image-borzoi-20051022114722.rootfs.img |
| 01:15.52 | axi | borzoi-3.5.3 |
| 01:15.52 | axi | gnu-tar |
| 01:15.52 | axi | opie-image-borzoi-20051022114722.rootfs.img |
| 01:15.52 | axi | updater.sh |
| 01:15.52 | axi | updater.sh.borzoi |
| 01:15.52 | xiaowen | Maybe that depens on architecture? I have only zImage. |
| 01:15.54 | axi | zImage-borzoi-20051022114722.bin |
| 01:16.18 | axi | i have bootstrap, opie-image an zImage |
| 01:16.28 | sheepbat | you rename opie-image to initrd.bin |
| 01:16.28 | axi | http://openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.4-RC/sl3100/ |
| 01:16.41 | axi | and bootstrap image, is for what? |
| 01:16.43 | xiaowen | I have updater.sh, zImage, and initrd.bin. |
| 01:16.48 | sheepbat | it's redundant |
| 01:17.00 | sheepbat | it's if you want no GUI at all |
| 01:17.01 | xiaowen | The bootstrap doesn't have a graphical environment. |
| 01:17.14 | xiaowen | Which is what I use for now. :) |
| 01:18.05 | axi | aja |
| 01:18.07 | axi | thanks |
| 01:18.49 | sheepbat | no problem |
| 01:19.01 | sheepbat | you named it zImage.bin, right? |
| 01:19.24 | axi | i'm not sure i'm seeing the 3.5.3 borzoi |
| 01:19.31 | axi | and it's name is zimage.bin |
| 01:19.37 | axi | without capital letters |
| 01:19.45 | axi | # ls ./borzoi-3.5.3/ |
| 01:19.46 | axi | initrd.bin updater.sh zimage.bin |
| 01:19.46 | axi | # |
| 01:20.07 | axi | that's the last when i flash my box |
| 01:20.24 | sheepbat | is everything in the root dir.? |
| 01:20.31 | axi | not of course |
| 01:20.40 | sheepbat | ..is that a no or a yes? |
| 01:20.45 | axi | 3.5.3 in a subdir for a backup |
| 01:20.54 | axi | and the other in the root directory |
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| 01:21.44 | sheepbat | hi grendal |
| 01:21.58 | grendal | ok what am i doing wrong here..i need to route the usdb0 device through the machine its connectedt to out to the internet |
| 01:22.17 | grendal | wireless card did not come and im going crazy with installing shit |
| 01:22.51 | sheepbat | hmm... |
| 01:23.00 | sheepbat | I *should* know this.. |
| 01:23.22 | sheepbat | best guess is futzing with ifconfig to mark your lap/desktop as the gateway |
| 01:23.42 | grendal | ipaddress on host machine is 192.168.1.21 address on the usbdevice on host machine is 192.168.0.10 |
| 01:24.54 | grendal | address on zaurus is, 192.168.0.11 subnet mask on zaurus is 255.255.255.0 and gateway is set to 192.168.1.21 |
| 01:25.07 | xiaowen | Is that an OE target that builds just the cross-compiling tools? |
| 01:25.14 | grendal | hey wait a min...subnet mask should probably be 255.255.0.0? |
| 01:25.15 | sheepbat | that sounds right... |
| 01:25.21 | sheepbat | oh.. hmm.. yes |
| 01:25.48 | grendal | and gateway would be the 192.168.0.10 address |
| 01:31.13 | axi | thanks sheepbat it's works perfect, the capital letters don't have importance because is vfat and don't mount it case sensitive |
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| 01:43.43 | axi | anyone knows how can i change the Size of Opie Launcher? |
| 01:59.53 | grendal | hmmm ok that didnt work |
| 02:16.29 | grendal | ya this is pissing me off |
| 02:16.37 | grendal | anyone have any suggestions? |
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| 02:55.02 | grendal | this is just really weird |
| 02:55.07 | grendal | you know i build routers |
| 02:55.14 | grendal | and configure them all the time |
| 02:56.09 | grendal | this has me totally confused |
| 02:58.45 | grendal | it seems to me that you should be able to just add the usb0 to the host machine, set up masquarade or a nat config and whammo you would be done |
| 02:58.49 | grendal | but its not working that way |
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| 04:22.13 | grendal | ok this is just too much |
| 04:22.26 | xiaowen | Still having the networking problem? |
| 04:22.47 | grendal | what the hell is this undefined symbol _7QString.shared_null |
| 04:23.01 | grendal | oh screw it im back to the idea of just waiting for the wireless card |
| 04:23.06 | xiaowen | QString makes me think Qt, but I have no idea. |
| 04:23.10 | sheepbat | oh.. that stuff.. |
| 04:23.14 | sheepbat | opera? |
| 04:23.39 | grendal | nope..it is an ifrinstrument trainer |
| 04:23.50 | grendal | but umm you have seen this before.. |
| 04:24.08 | sheepbat | I believe it happens with opera too |
| 04:25.42 | grendal | shit |
| 04:26.20 | sheepbat | no one warned you how much work these things are |
| 04:26.56 | sheepbat | sorry |
| 04:27.14 | sheepbat | which instrument trainer? |
| 04:27.27 | sheepbat | that one package that's listed in the feed? |
| 04:27.33 | sheepbat | uhh.. guitar-something? |
| 04:28.15 | grendal | no dude the plane...instruments in the plane. Im getting my instrument rating in the airplane this month |
| 04:28.22 | sheepbat | ohh... |
| 04:28.29 | sheepbat | awesome |
| 04:28.34 | sheepbat | I want to be a pilot too |
| 04:34.58 | grendal | no man i am a pilot...ive been a pilot for over two years im getting my instrument rating this month |
| 04:34.59 | grendal | there are several apps that i want to run on this zaurus...flight planning stuff..that sort of thing but for right now there are a few little gadgets i would like to just play with while im sitting around waithing to take off |
| 04:35.02 | grendal | and i just have downtile at work |
| 04:35.06 | grendal | wich is quite often now |
| 04:35.36 | xiaowen | How did you get into that field? |
| 04:36.49 | sheepbat | forgive me, I seem to be experiencing some lag |
| 04:39.19 | grendal | flight? or sysadmin? |
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| 05:12.50 | grendal | ? |
| 05:15.58 | grendal | helloow? |
| 05:16.01 | grendal | anyone there? |
| 05:16.05 | sheepbat | I'm here |
| 05:16.08 | sheepbat | problems? |
| 05:16.20 | grendal | so there is no way to diagnose that... |
| 05:16.25 | grendal | undefined symbol _7QString.shared_null |
| 05:16.36 | sheepbat | hmm... |
| 05:16.42 | sheepbat | ask a developer next time they come around? |
| 05:16.51 | sheepbat | I know hrw comes in here sometimes |
| 05:19.26 | ryoohki | grendal, what application? some debian programs( familiar) don't work on openzaurus |
| 05:21.11 | grendal | supposed to be for the zaurus |
| 05:21.51 | grendal | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:21.53 | grendal | undefined symbol _7QString.shared_null |
| 05:21.59 | sheepbat | wait.. plain zaurus? |
| 05:22.05 | sheepbat | like with the standard ROM? |
| 05:22.53 | grendal | ummm well dont know for sure about that |
| 05:22.57 | grendal | let me check |
| 05:23.08 | grendal | before i do...why? |
| 05:23.17 | sheepbat | because then you'd probably need sharp-compat-libs installed |
| 05:23.25 | sheepbat | and manually link the program to that |
| 05:23.48 | grendal | oh..and that is difficult? |
| 05:24.55 | sheepbat | not really |
| 05:25.00 | sheepbat | opie, right? |
| 05:25.04 | grendal | ya |
| 05:25.16 | ryoohki | grendal, win98 and xp are both for pcs and from microsoft but there are differnces |
| 05:25.16 | sheepbat | it's just an icon and a couple menus |
| 05:25.39 | grendal | im assuming these libs are contained in a pkg of some sort |
| 05:25.43 | sheepbat | yes |
| 05:25.49 | sheepbat | the package is sharp-compat-libs |
| 05:26.02 | sheepbat | that will be listed somewhere in the package manager |
| 05:26.15 | ryoohki | sharp rom is 2.? qtopia, where as qpe is 3.?, and also, opie is open software version of qtopia 3.? |
| 05:27.06 | grendal | ryoohki, ya...thing is ryoohki I have alot of experience with linux especially debian, however im continually amazed at how different embeded is |
| 05:27.26 | sheepbat | different requirements, different OSes |
| 05:27.36 | grendal | ya |
| 05:27.47 | grendal | but the network routing thing...thats just werid |
| 05:27.49 | sheepbat | a lot of these roms use busybox instead of separate executables |
| 05:28.22 | grendal | hmm |
| 05:28.49 | grendal | i need to just pull all the damn packages down from openzaurus.. |
| 05:29.21 | grendal | whats the ftp for that? |
| 05:29.29 | sheepbat | it's http |
| 05:29.32 | sheepbat | it's.. uhh.. |
| 05:29.35 | grendal | ive been just pullin it from the http |
| 05:29.46 | sheepbat | yeah |
| 05:29.58 | sheepbat | that and the mirrors are the only place I believe you can get the packages |
| 05:30.07 | grendal | i want them all... |
| 05:30.13 | sheepbat | wget? |
| 05:30.21 | grendal | well it....ya |
| 05:31.34 | sheepbat | I'm actually trying out a completely different ROM right now |
| 05:31.38 | sheepbat | pdaxrom |
| 05:37.52 | grendal | its comming down now |
| 05:39.01 | grendal | their server is not all that fast is it hehehe |
| 05:39.20 | sheepbat | no, it is not |
| 05:39.31 | grendal | well im pulling all of them.. |
| 05:43.35 | grendal | i guess its not that bad ive got about 16 megs so far |
| 05:43.42 | sheepbat | hah.. firefox works on pdaxrom |
| 05:50.41 | grendal | hey...oz compat..is this what were dealing whith here? |
| 05:54.04 | grendal | let me see if im getting this right, your basically your running a different os , so you are emulating the hardware? |
| 05:54.13 | sheepbat | huh? |
| 05:54.19 | grendal | the roms? |
| 05:54.26 | sheepbat | oh |
| 05:54.33 | sheepbat | no, it's just a different OS |
| 05:54.36 | sheepbat | same hardware |
| 05:54.40 | grendal | o ok |
| 05:54.45 | grendal | linux based? |
| 05:54.45 | sheepbat | are you asking what sharp-compat-libs does? |
| 05:54.47 | sheepbat | yeah |
| 05:54.51 | sheepbat | they're all linux-based |
| 05:55.47 | grendal | im reading on the gcc2 vs gcc3 prob now..basically sharps stuff was all compiled with gcc2 or thats how it reads to me anyway |
| 05:56.30 | grendal | its nice that open zaurus has built something to make that backwards compat like that |
| 05:56.38 | grendal | linux rocks for that sort of stuff |
| 05:56.47 | sheepbat | that's basically it, I believe |
| 05:57.48 | grendal | ya |
| 05:58.11 | grendal | cool part..you get the gcc2 cmopat libs installed you can run opera |
| 05:58.25 | sheepbat | umm.. well, hopefully |
| 05:58.29 | grendal | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:58.33 | grendal | thats what it says |
| 05:58.48 | sheepbat | oh.. you have an ext2-formatted SD, right? |
| 05:58.50 | grendal | now that i think about it..i never got any software with this thing |
| 05:58.54 | grendal | ya |
| 05:58.59 | grendal | actually ext3 |
| 05:58.59 | sheepbat | yeah, that'll help |
| 05:59.02 | sheepbat | same thing |
| 05:59.05 | grendal | 512 megs |
| 06:00.07 | grendal | i think im gonna get a 1gig so that when i get my gps card, i can put a kick as aviation gps system on it |
| 06:01.25 | sheepbat | assuming you can get it to work |
| 06:01.31 | sheepbat | but get the 1gig anyway |
| 06:01.36 | sheepbat | they're relatively cheap |
| 06:02.04 | grendal | 50 megs so far from that server..i wonder if there is a way to set that package manager up to look at a local directory as a repository |
| 06:02.09 | grendal | like a local cache |
| 06:02.18 | sheepbat | hmm... |
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| 06:02.28 | sheepbat | i know you can install a local package manually.. |
| 06:02.53 | grendal | ya but i want it to do the dependency handling as well |
| 06:02.57 | sheepbat | yes |
| 06:03.10 | grendal | will it do that by just looking in the same directory? |
| 06:03.17 | sheepbat | you could always install apache and try http://localhost.. |
| 06:03.19 | sheepbat | i don't know |
| 06:03.22 | sheepbat | I haven't tried |
| 06:03.30 | sheepbat | and oz isn't on my zaurus at the moment |
| 06:03.46 | grendal | im pretty familiar with apt-get but..this seems different |
| 06:03.53 | sheepbat | oh? |
| 06:04.00 | sheepbat | I'm not familiar with apt-get |
| 06:04.31 | grendal | really nice...very reliable package manager for debian pkgs |
| 06:05.03 | grendal | and has simplified front end and console apps for it..aptitude and synaptic |
| 06:05.17 | grendal | very cool..idiot proof apps really |
| 06:08.18 | sheepbat | I've used gentoo for a bit |
| 06:08.26 | sheepbat | portage is the same way |
| 06:08.28 | sheepbat | only slower |
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| 06:24.22 | grendal | heheh i built a gentoo system on a pent 200 one time. |
| 06:24.28 | grendal | took a week..litterally |
| 06:24.37 | sheepbat | stage 3 with GRP? |
| 06:25.27 | grendal | however, i did it the first install, documenttion is really great and it did work and was very fast for a pent 200... |
| 06:25.33 | grendal | but a week. com on |
| 06:25.44 | sheepbat | that's what happens when everything's compiled |
| 06:25.49 | grendal | ya |
| 06:25.59 | sheepbat | nice for cross-platforminess |
| 06:26.11 | sheepbat | if *everything*'s source.. |
| 06:26.31 | sheepbat | you'd *need* distcc though |
| 06:26.57 | grendal | debian is pretty close to source..i mean anyone can build a package with the tools supplied |
| 06:27.29 | grendal | i dont do that..im simply into it for the slam bamn thankyoumam webservers and router/gateways |
| 06:29.15 | grendal | ive seen alot of routing equipment in my day and for just plain "put it in and forget about it untill they need a new service" aspect of it. you cant beat it |
| 06:29.49 | grendal | it kicks the shit out of any hardware router on the market. And its funtionalality is right up there with cisco systems |
| 06:31.00 | grendal | hmmm im in the t's ive got about 128 megs of stuff so far..i could just put all this onto the sd card |
| 06:31.25 | grendal | hey sheepbat what do you use for your desktops and whatnot |
| 06:32.53 | sheepbat | hmm? |
| 06:33.01 | sheepbat | oh.. |
| 06:33.10 | sheepbat | I have gentoo on my (rather old) desktop |
| 06:33.31 | sheepbat | and a pre-scrollpad 15" AlBook as a laptop |
| 06:34.04 | grendal | cool |
| 06:34.36 | sheepbat | hey.. what was the command to find the filesystem something was mounted with? |
| 06:34.49 | grendal | im running debian testing on several systems with desktops now. Actually new debian stable now that i think about it..they migrated all the testing stuff into stable |
| 06:35.05 | grendal | cat /proc/filesystem i think |
| 06:35.11 | sheepbat | ahh.. thanks |
| 06:36.13 | grendal | I have a dell 1100 laptop and a severa compaq 800 mhz with ati radeon 128s in them those bastards scream |
| 06:36.32 | sheepbat | hmm.. it only shows what filesystems are used |
| 06:36.36 | sheepbat | not matching them with mountpoints |
| 06:36.55 | grendal | especially if you get the radeon drives from ati |
| 06:36.58 | grendal | ummm |
| 06:36.59 | grendal | oh shit |
| 06:37.05 | sheepbat | it's okay |
| 06:37.11 | sheepbat | it's enough for me to figure out stuff |
| 06:37.11 | grendal | cat /proc/mouts |
| 06:37.13 | grendal | mount |
| 06:37.48 | grendal | ya try cat /proc/mounts |
| 06:37.54 | sheepbat | that works too |
| 06:39.21 | grendal | hehe..dude im gonna just put the whole damn thing on my sd card |
| 06:39.29 | grendal | its only 150 megs |
| 06:39.59 | grendal | 160 megs i think...the entire feed folder |
| 06:39.59 | sheepbat | all of what? |
| 06:40.04 | sheepbat | ohh.. |
| 06:40.06 | sheepbat | cool |
| 06:40.14 | sheepbat | wow, that's not much |
| 06:40.16 | grendal | the packages from openzaurus |
| 06:40.25 | grendal | you want i can put them on my router here |
| 06:40.38 | grendal | i have a pretty kick ass connetion at this place |
| 06:40.40 | sheepbat | hmm.. |
| 06:40.43 | sheepbat | that'd be cool |
| 06:40.47 | grendal | the phone company..is there own company |
| 06:40.51 | sheepbat | ..for when I go back to openzaurus |
| 06:40.59 | grendal | drect connection to sf... |
| 06:41.41 | grendal | so basically this was what you were explaining to me earlyer |
| 06:41.43 | grendal | http://opie.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/oz_2dcompat_20HowTo |
| 06:41.53 | sheepbat | yep |
| 06:41.58 | sheepbat | only they renamed it |
| 06:42.50 | grendal | ya im thinking that is the problem wit this app |
| 06:43.04 | grendal | now when i instal apps that requre that the package manager will understand that? |
| 06:43.22 | sheepbat | I don't know |
| 06:43.30 | sheepbat | you have to manually link apps to these libs |
| 06:44.09 | grendal | hmm this walkthrough says it has a cached list of common apps or something like that |
| 06:44.43 | grendal | anyway, hey is it me or does the default install for oz have like every damn possible connection device known to man? |
| 06:44.53 | grendal | vpn, espicially |
| 06:44.54 | sheepbat | hah |
| 06:45.01 | sheepbat | yes.. there were quite a few in there |
| 06:45.37 | grendal | i mean..oo the other thing..the wireless tools...will wireless work np or do i need to install anything in particular ? |
| 06:45.53 | grendal | its a cf wireless card with 128 megs of ram on it |
| 06:46.04 | sheepbat | sandisk connect plus? |
| 06:46.05 | sheepbat | hmm.. |
| 06:46.13 | sheepbat | I think there was a tutorial or something.. |
| 06:46.39 | grendal | hmmm..that sounds right |
| 06:46.44 | grendal | hold on ill get that info |
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| 06:59.18 | grendal | Sandisk 802.11b Wireless LAN CompactFlash CF Card+128MB |
| 06:59.24 | grendal | ya thats the one |
| 07:04.24 | grendal | hey this thing likes to set up all media that gets pluged into it with a packages folder |
| 07:04.30 | grendal | is that what it sounds like? |
| 07:09.49 | grendal | hey what was the deal with firefox? |
| 07:10.03 | grendal | because its on of the ipkgs available |
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| 07:27.28 | alan|home | good morning |
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| 07:31.12 | grendal | this is sucking ass |
| 07:31.22 | grendal | im not able to install the oz-compt |
| 07:31.45 | alan|home | compt ? |
| 07:32.04 | grendal | http://opie.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/oz_2dcompat_20HowTo |
| 07:33.21 | alan|home | grendal: where did you get your package from ? |
| 07:34.16 | grendal | the download it suggested |
| 07:34.23 | grendal | i need opie-sh |
| 07:34.27 | grendal | whatever that is |
| 07:34.31 | alan|home | grendal: there is a sharp compat lib package in the official feed. |
| 07:34.52 | grendal | ya |
| 07:35.50 | alan|home | did you try to install this one ? |
| 07:36.56 | alan|home | the one suggested by the webpage you gave may have been compiled with an outdated gcc version. |
| 07:40.20 | grendal | right |
| 07:40.23 | grendal | i think i got it |
| 07:40.46 | grendal | im getting linking errors ..what the hell is going on here |
| 07:41.05 | alan|home | grendal: mmm... what kind of error ? |
| 07:41.52 | grendal | error linking '/media/card/packages" |
| 07:42.48 | alan|home | is your card fat formated ? |
| 07:42.59 | grendal | nope |
| 07:43.05 | alan|home | ext ? |
| 07:43.06 | grendal | its ext3 |
| 07:43.09 | alan|home | ok... |
| 07:43.41 | alan|home | did you do a "ipkg-link mount /media/card/packages/" |
| 07:43.43 | alan|home | ? |
| 07:43.51 | grendal | no |
| 07:44.00 | alan|home | do this first |
| 07:44.00 | grendal | i used the packagemanger |
| 07:44.41 | alan|home | it's been a long time since i didn't use my zaurus, but iirc, the packagemanager sommetimes fails in doing this |
| 07:44.56 | grendal | ok |
| 07:46.53 | grendal | ok its doing someting |
| 07:47.14 | grendal | now do i run the package manager again? |
| 07:47.31 | alan|home | grendal: no |
| 07:47.48 | alan|home | i just want to be sure to understand. |
| 07:48.46 | alan|home | you installed sharp-compat-libs + a sharp app in /media/card/packages, right ? |
| 07:49.20 | grendal | thats what i was trying to do but i got a bunch of errors |
| 07:49.46 | alan|home | ok. now both are installed, right ? |
| 07:50.44 | grendal | I havent tired to install the sharp-compat-libs since we did the linkmount no |
| 07:51.25 | alan|home | ha... then install sharp compat libs and then do the ipkg-link once more |
| 07:52.01 | grendal | ok im aparently not explaining this corectly |
| 07:52.24 | alan|home | i'm sorry, it's early in the morning, here... |
| 07:53.44 | grendal | when i tried to install the compatibility libs..i got pages and pages of linking errors. |
| 07:54.05 | grendal | i dont know if it ever installed the package my understanding was that it probably didnt |
| 07:54.45 | grendal | now i rean th lin to the packages dir and i get one error linking 'libstdc++/s0.6.0.3 |
| 07:54.51 | alan|home | hhaaa... ok. if sharp compat lib is installed, you should have an icon somewhere in opie |
| 07:56.27 | alan|home | grendal: i don't know if it's related, but did you add your machine feed ? |
| 07:57.04 | grendal | ive downloaded all the files and put them onto the same sd card |
| 07:57.42 | grendal | ok now i have an icon for librairys but i get the error could not locate application makecompat |
| 07:58.14 | grendal | and i still get an error about not bein able to lin libstdc++ |
| 07:58.16 | alan|home | mmm... indeed, something went wrong during the installation. |
| 07:58.39 | grendal | do i need to power down and back up/ |
| 07:59.04 | grendal | now i also got that from the 3.5.1 upgrades folder not the 3.5.3 |
| 07:59.10 | grendal | but there was nothin in the 3.5.3 |
| 07:59.57 | alan|home | if you are using 3.5.3, then you shouldn't use 3.5.1 feed. |
| 08:00.45 | grendal | ya no kidding |
| 08:01.06 | grendal | but there is no file in the 3.5.3 for the compatibility libs |
| 08:01.18 | alan|home | yes there is ^^ |
| 08:01.34 | alan|home | does your Z have an internet access ? |
| 08:01.55 | alan|home | brb |
| 08:02.52 | grendal | no |
| 08:09.52 | grendal | ya now i cant get rid of that damn thing |
| 08:18.29 | grendal | i cant find that package |
| 08:33.17 | grendal | found it |
| 08:33.20 | grendal | same problem though |
| 08:51.25 | XorA | morning |
| 09:03.43 | alan|home | grendal: i'm sorry. A 2 years old monster woke up in her bedroom... |
| 09:04.10 | alan|home | grendal: what machine ? |
| 09:05.01 | grendal | umm 5500 |
| 09:05.30 | grendal | ya im getting nothing but errors on this thing now |
| 09:05.52 | alan|home | grendal: strange, indeed... can't you uninstal it ? |
| 09:06.02 | grendal | im trying to install vncserver so i can just run the thing from my desktop..thats not going so hot ither |
| 09:06.46 | grendal | well you have to understand im doing this by downloadin the packages pushing them to the device with scp and then running the package manager |
| 09:06.51 | grendal | its kinda convoluted |
| 09:07.27 | grendal | enought that im giving up and waiting untill i get the wireless card in the mail..probably tomorro |
| 09:08.15 | grendal | and my 2 year old is wanking about as well |
| 09:08.26 | grendal | ya..and its one am im crashing |
| 09:08.30 | grendal | thanks for the help though |
| 09:14.44 | ryoohki | i am using 3.5.4-RC on a sl-c760 and can't get usb0 to come up. On the zaurus, when i try 'ifup usb0' i get "# ifup usb0 \n usb0 no private ioctls. \n Host AP driver data for device usb0 not found in procfs. \n run-parts: /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/hostap-fw-load exited with return code 1: Success \n # ifconfig usb0 \n ifconfig: usb0: error fetching interface information: Device not found" |
| 09:21.09 | XorA | ryoohki: modprobe g_ether |
| 09:21.30 | XorA | ryoohki: oh and unplug the wifi card |
| 09:25.17 | ryoohki | XorA, "unplug the wifi card" why? |
| 09:26.09 | XorA | ryoohki: then you wont trigger that bug |
| 09:26.12 | ryoohki | XorA, ah! now i have a usb0 on the zaurus |
| 09:26.24 | ryoohki | XorA, ah! and that bug is? |
| 09:26.49 | XorA | ryoohki: if wifi is plugged in script tries to update firmware on all network interfaces, not just wlan0 |
| 09:27.01 | ryoohki | XorA, i didn't unplug the zaurus and now i have a nice usb0 but it's not up yet |
| 09:27.27 | ryoohki | XorA, well no harm |
| 09:38.30 | ryoohki | XorA, working! |
| 09:39.04 | ryoohki | XorA, Thanks! |
| 09:48.41 | ryoohki | anyone know the effects of having more than one default gw? |
| 09:48.57 | ryoohki | one via wifi and the other via usb? |
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| 10:09.13 | alan|home | ryoohki: i on't know if this leads to troubles, but in the worst case, you can use a simple script (ifconfig usb0 down ; ifconfig wlan0 gw blabla up). |
| 10:09.41 | alan|home | make two scripts, add an icon for each one et voila ^^ |
| 10:11.42 | ryoohki | alan|home, how are icons "added"? |
| 10:12.18 | alan|home | ryoohki: iirc, in opie, it is a simple text .desktop file |
| 10:12.36 | ryoohki | alan|home, oh right - i kinda knew that |
| 10:12.52 | ryoohki | alan|home, however, i never made one |
| 10:13.53 | ryoohki | alan|home, you know, "zuc" isn't set up right to add to a 640x480 machine and there is no way to "magnify" it |
| 10:15.20 | ryoohki | alan|home, also, there is now real "cat" command. i find it annoying that i can't "cat -vte file.txt" to look for corruption. i usually scp the file off and use emacs, etc. now |
| 10:17.04 | alan|home | ryoohki: on opie ? |
| 10:17.35 | alan|home | ryoohki: maybe it's timle for you to test gpe... |
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| 12:02.56 | XorA | alan|home: hope you are not in bad parts of .fr :-( |
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| 12:27.39 | j0cks | hi all |
| 12:28.19 | mrz80 | good day |
| 12:29.05 | alan|home | XorA: no, that's ok here, thanks. I live 2 miles away from a police station that was set on fire tonight, but right here, nothing happened. |
| 12:29.38 | XorA | alan|home: :-( |
| 12:29.43 | j0cks | where are you from allan? |
| 12:30.10 | alan|home | XorA: but my mother lives in a "hot" suburb. If i ever forgot why i studied all my life to get out of there, now i'm sure i remember... |
| 12:30.27 | alan|home | j0cks: france, rouen, 120kms away from paris |
| 12:30.32 | XorA | alan|home: yes, education has its advantages |
| 12:33.54 | alan|home | XorA: yeah... but i've had to fail last year just to keep my grant. Otherwise, they would have concidered my studies as over, even though i'm the best in my university... |
| 12:34.24 | alan|home | high education is only for the rich people. |
| 12:35.28 | XorA | alan|home: sucks, but in uk there are no grants now |
| 12:35.42 | alan|home | not at all ??? |
| 12:35.59 | XorA | alan|home: nope, you have to take out a Student Loan for all costs |
| 12:36.10 | alan|home | that sucks even more !! |
| 12:36.13 | XorA | alan|home: except in Scotland where your tuition fees are paid by the state |
| 12:36.22 | XorA | alan|home: the only advantage of a seperate parliment |
| 12:36.27 | alan|home | pfff... stupid world... |
| 12:36.53 | alan|home | do you think they have xDSL in heaven ? |
| 12:48.17 | XorA | alan|home: xDSL is probably a sin :-( |
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| 13:33.25 | alan|home | XorA: "Question=(to)?be:!be; " ;-D |
| 13:36.31 | hrw|work | $2b or !$2b is $ff |
| 13:43.36 | XorA | alan|home: ?? |
| 13:44.05 | alan|home | hrw|work: ^^ yours is for emebendded software |
| 13:44.24 | XorA | alan|home: there is no OR in yours |
| 13:45.08 | alan|home | i'm a philosophe, XorA : i can totally accept to be AND not to be. ^^ |
| 13:46.39 | alan|home | i must try the e17 image. |
| 13:47.40 | XorA | WTF E3.28 per gig for an mp3 player, why do governments allow this fraud to continue |
| 13:49.54 | alan|home | 3.28 pounds a giga of mp3 ? |
| 13:50.12 | XorA | alan|home: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/11/04/levy_mp3/ |
| 13:51.37 | alan|home | ho yeah ! there is something similar in france : there is a tax on anything that _could_ be used to store mp3 and divx... |
| 13:51.46 | XorA | thats such a con |
| 13:52.09 | XorA | its almost a Protection Scam |
| 13:52.22 | XorA | YUSS, Rhino is NWA world champ |
| 13:52.50 | alan|home | ^^ |
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| 14:17.54 | alan|xchat | brb |
| 14:23.54 | XorA | hrw|work: do you still play witrh cvs mplayer? |
| 14:26.39 | hrw|work | re |
| 14:26.50 | hrw|work | XorA: I do builds from time to time |
| 14:27.00 | hrw|work | mainly when want to add something or have too old one |
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| 14:38.43 | XorA | hrw|work: have you seen a cvs changelog anywhere? |
| 14:38.54 | XorA | hrw|work: I want to know if they have fixed sws on amd64 |
| 14:39.17 | hrw|work | XorA: grab cvs and use cvs2cl |
| 14:39.52 | XorA | hrw|work: ok, was hoping they had a webpage I had missed somewhere, the sws problem is annoying |
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| 17:57.00 | Weichkaes | hello again |
| 18:01.29 | bazkaixa | hello to all, anyone can tell me, what are the features better than the rest does have openzaurus? with pdaXrom and others |
| 18:04.33 | Weichkaes | bazkaixa: difficult question, I personally like OZ more, because I have the feeling that the look and feel matches better for a pda |
| 18:04.45 | Weichkaes | for pda-specific tasks |
| 18:11.10 | bazkaixa | ajam |
| 18:21.37 | Weichkaes | someone an idea, why my opie-image gets larger then the / parition on akita? |
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| 19:18.24 | ryoohki | anyone know if pdaXrom can run qpe? |
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| 19:31.09 | _StarScream | ryoohki: whats pdaXrom? |
| 19:40.21 | ryoohki | pdaXrom is a rom which is X based, as opposed to opie, qtopia, or qte. |
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| 20:03.22 | ryoohki | there's no bluetooth on the sl-c760 but there seems to be a ton of packages for it in 3.5.4-RC |
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| 21:03.23 | Weichkaes | re |
| 21:03.41 | Weichkaes | argh, again some problems with the oe toolchain |
| 21:03.59 | Weichkaes | when is the updater.sh generated? |
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| 21:13.50 | mimecar | hi |
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