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| 00:09.42 | grendal_prime | is it just me or does everyone else have like 500 kernel modules that are totally useless installed by default? |
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| 00:51.30 | grendal_prime | cant find the altboot pkg anyone know where its at? |
| 00:52.26 | grendal_prime | i sure wish i understood how much of the stuff i could delet off of the root |
| 00:52.39 | grendal_prime | after moving this data to sd.. |
| 00:52.49 | grendal_prime | i got a lot of room there i think |
| 00:55.25 | zonehakin9_ | grendal_prime: hey mate did ya end off finding the altboot package u wanted? |
| 01:02.47 | grendal_prime | ya i got it |
| 01:03.07 | grendal_prime | im wondering if i can install it if i already have the rboot scripts in place now though |
| 01:04.09 | grendal_prime | i mean...the only frustrating thing im experiencing at this point is that..well the real_root is ..like 95% full and its 64 megs of space that i think is just sitting there with nothing to do |
| 01:04.41 | grendal_prime | and hell id love to fill that bitch up with mp3's..porn...all kinds of cool stuff |
| 01:04.42 | grendal_prime | hehehe |
| 01:04.51 | grendal_prime | im kidding about the porn |
| 01:05.11 | grendal_prime | family photos would probably be better |
| 01:07.40 | grendal_prime | zonehakin9_, are you familiar with the two situations? |
| 01:08.11 | grendal_prime | and or...at least familiar with ....what can be erased from the real root? |
| 01:09.40 | zonehakin9_ | grendal_prime, what Z r u using?? 5500?? |
| 01:09.46 | grendal_prime | ya 5500 |
| 01:10.26 | zonehakin9_ | give me 5 and i'll have a quick look... btw why do u want to rem stuff from the root? if u r using the sd for root |
| 01:10.59 | grendal_prime | im taking about the ram..on the machine..the oritinal 64 megs of ram that had the os on it.. |
| 01:11.10 | grendal_prime | it copies all that to the sd card im pretty sure |
| 01:11.38 | zonehakin9_ | geee, its pretty tight d00d on the 5500, |
| 01:11.39 | grendal_prime | i think its referd to as realroot |
| 01:11.49 | zonehakin9_ | ya |
| 01:12.30 | zonehakin9_ | you maybe able to remove things like today...todo..etc if u don't need them.. also what kernel r u using?? the 64-0? |
| 01:12.47 | grendal_prime | im gonna back up my opie.img file tonight and then just start...deleting things from the realroot |
| 01:12.48 | grendal_prime | hehehe |
| 01:12.59 | grendal_prime | no usint the 32 |
| 01:13.07 | grendal_prime | using that is |
| 01:13.13 | grendal_prime | 32-32 |
| 01:13.52 | zonehakin9_ | use the 64-0 it will give u the 64mb of mem i think u r talking about... i think i'm using the 56-? one |
| 01:14.02 | zonehakin9_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:14.23 | zonehakin9_ | also create a swap file/partition too that helps |
| 01:14.36 | grendal_prime | the image i pulled was the 32-32 that gives you 32 megs for kernel and 32 megs for ram |
| 01:14.51 | grendal_prime | zonehakin9_, where? |
| 01:14.55 | grendal_prime | on realroot? |
| 01:14.57 | zonehakin9_ | use the 64-0 |
| 01:15.09 | grendal_prime | its a little late for that at this point |
| 01:15.10 | zonehakin9_ | no on your sd |
| 01:15.24 | grendal_prime | ? |
| 01:15.36 | zonehakin9_ | umm... u should be able to reflash just using the zImage file and no initrd.bin |
| 01:16.24 | zonehakin9_ | mate i've got to go 4 lunch... will be back l8r and u can get me on msn with MR_EPOD@hotmail.com if u need too l8r |
| 01:16.48 | grendal_prime | right |
| 01:17.06 | zonehakin9_ | sorry |
| 01:17.25 | grendal_prime | no its ok im packing up stuff here anyway |
| 01:17.34 | grendal_prime | laptop ..and whatnot..it goes home with me anyway |
| 01:17.35 | grendal_prime | hehehe |
| 01:17.58 | ZonE-HaKin9|out | kool, i'll help u l8r if u need me to... |
| 01:19.17 | grendal_prime | got ya on msn |
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| 03:09.24 | kakos | What package is mkfs.ext2 in? |
| 03:20.33 | ZonE-HaKin9|out | e2fsprogs-mke2fs mate ;-) |
| 03:52.06 | kakos | Thanks! |
| 04:17.26 | ZonE-HaKin9 | np |
| 04:30.03 | kakos | Anyone around? |
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| 04:56.14 | grendel_prime | crazy world dudes |
| 04:56.22 | kakos | Hey, grendel_prime |
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| 04:56.50 | grendel_prime | ya MON whatsa du happoning mon? |
| 04:57.16 | kakos | You're fairly in the know with regards to OZ |
| 04:57.24 | kakos | Right? |
| 04:58.49 | varsendagger | hey has anyone had any luck with a zaurus sl-5500 on a verizon network? |
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| 07:32.02 | webmind | goodmorning |
| 07:38.00 | webmind | hmm, I'm trying to make a wireless connection with wep on my sl-6000 with 3.5.4, but it gives an error when I try to set the key |
| 08:12.01 | Ober | can anyone recommend a CF wifi card that works with OZ? |
| 08:12.09 | Ober | I bought one that is not supported |
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| 08:50.14 | hrw|work | Ober: which one you have? |
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| 09:35.29 | webmind | Ober, senao cards work.. but there should be cheaper ones |
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| 09:39.30 | lardman|work | morning |
| 09:41.32 | hrw|work | hi lardman |
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| 09:49.48 | lardman|work | hey hrw|work |
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| 11:27.27 | alan| | see you all |
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| 12:36.35 | webmind | does anyone know how I can sync my touchscreen in gpe ? |
| 12:36.59 | XorA | xtscal I think |
| 12:37.49 | webmind | thnx |
| 12:38.30 | webmind | is there a mapping btw on which shortkey is which? because the config tool has this nice image of an ipaq... and I've got my zaurus which has a different layout |
| 12:39.16 | XorA | webmind: never used it sorry |
| 12:40.06 | webmind | ok |
| 12:45.08 | lardman|work | if keylaunch isn't running then that won't work anyway |
| 12:46.23 | hrw|work | and keylaunch + linux 2.6 == problems (iirc) |
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| 12:50.07 | webmind | I'm using 3.5.4 with a 2.4 kernel |
| 12:50.37 | lardman|work | See if it's running |
| 12:50.39 | hrw|work | 3.5.4-rc |
| 12:50.47 | lardman|work | It needs work, it's still iPAQ only afaik |
| 12:51.42 | webmind | it wasnt |
| 12:51.47 | webmind | I'm running it now |
| 12:51.52 | webmind | but doesn't work |
| 12:51.59 | webmind | ah, shame |
| 12:56.16 | lardman|work | Patches welcome ;) |
| 12:56.46 | webmind | heh :) |
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| 12:57.11 | webmind | first I need network, for that I need wep :) |
| 12:57.14 | hrw|work | lardman|work: my favorite quote |
| 12:58.57 | lardman|work | I'm learning ;) |
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| 14:15.01 | webmind | 3.5.4-gpe isn't too stable yet ;) |
| 14:16.46 | XorA | webmind: what way? |
| 14:17.21 | webmind | it just crashed |
| 14:17.40 | webmind | I opened a folder with images in gallry |
| 14:17.42 | webmind | gallery |
| 14:17.45 | webmind | atleast tried to |
| 14:17.47 | webmind | and it died |
| 14:18.14 | webmind | also before that the mouse cursor switched permanent to busy |
| 14:18.30 | XorA | webmind: ah, havent used gallery for a while, I use gqview |
| 14:18.40 | XorA | mouse pointer is irritating though |
| 14:19.09 | webmind | yeah.. just using the default apps now untill I've got my SD card back |
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| 14:27.16 | webmind | ok, and now I can't login as a normal user anymore |
| 14:27.19 | webmind | only as root |
| 14:28.04 | _law_ | webmind, what have you done? changed shortcut keys? |
| 14:28.17 | webmind | yes |
| 14:28.27 | webmind | and tried gallery |
| 14:28.37 | _law_ | remove the .key* form your home dir ;-) |
| 14:28.56 | webmind | what's that ? |
| 14:29.30 | _law_ | in this file the shortcut keys are stored |
| 14:29.47 | webmind | and how does that brake the login? |
| 14:30.33 | _law_ | webmind, dont know doesnt debugged the error |
| 14:31.02 | webmind | works now |
| 14:31.09 | webmind | but I wonder why |
| 14:31.11 | _law_ | webmind, which Z do you use? |
| 14:31.18 | webmind | sl6000 |
| 14:31.28 | webmind | sl6000L actually |
| 14:31.45 | _law_ | ok i had the same problem on 5000d try it with sl-760c mom |
| 14:34.40 | _law_ | sl-760c starts but .keylaunchrc is empty :-( |
| 14:37.58 | _law_ | webmind, selfbuild rom or from oz.org? |
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| 14:39.53 | grendal_prime | hmmm |
| 14:40.04 | grendal_prime | this ram situation has me confused |
| 14:40.15 | grendal_prime | hrw|work, when you get a chance can you expain something to me |
| 14:40.49 | hrw|work | grendal_prime: hi |
| 14:41.26 | webmind | _law_, nope 3.5.4 |
| 14:41.28 | grendal_prime | hey i have vnc set up so i can see my zaurus on screen...you want to take a look at something for me |
| 14:42.47 | webmind | hmm I logged out and got the new user dialog |
| 14:42.49 | hrw|work | webmind: 3.5.4-rc |
| 14:43.10 | webmind | yes |
| 14:43.35 | webmind | think I fucked up something |
| 14:44.08 | grendal_prime | admitting you have a problem is the first step |
| 14:44.09 | grendal_prime | hehehe |
| 14:47.19 | webmind | is there a graphical way btw to 'start' an interface ? |
| 14:50.15 | webmind | another bug.. buttons don't rotate with the screen |
| 14:50.22 | webmind | qpe bug though I think |
| 14:56.02 | webmind | uhm.. kapm-idle is taking 90% of my cpu |
| 14:56.05 | webmind | does that make sense ? |
| 14:58.25 | hrw|work | webmind: ignore it |
| 14:58.35 | hrw|work | webmind: its kernel internal process for doing nothing |
| 14:58.59 | webmind | nice but due to it I have a load of 2 and my cpu monitor doesnt make sense anymore |
| 14:59.04 | webmind | cos it's constantly on full? |
| 15:00.44 | hrw|work | welcome in 2.4 world |
| 15:00.56 | webmind | crap |
| 15:01.00 | webmind | fixed in 2.6 ? |
| 15:01.11 | hrw|work | not existed in 2.6 iirc |
| 15:01.25 | webmind | ok |
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| 16:56.16 | grendal_prime | ladman...damn that has to be a tough nic to grow up with |
| 16:56.21 | grendal_prime | lardman that is |
| 17:01.11 | lardman|work | well I gave myself the nic, in part as a piss take 'cos I onle knew how to cook egg & bacon in my 1st year at uni |
| 17:03.02 | lardman|work | Although I'm in the process of growing a beer gut (due to my spending weekends writing up PhD instead of playing sport/getting out), I'm otherwise fit and not lardy |
| 17:03.36 | lardman|work | I wonder how the not going out drinking at the weekends has offset itself against the not playing sport at the weekend....? |
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| 17:21.46 | grendal_prime | well i know for me...when i was in college..i was ver fit...and drinking a 12pack of beer a day, living on advil, dougnuts and very little sleep. I felt great!! i should never have gotten married...bought a house and had 2 kids...im tired all the time now |
| 17:22.07 | lardman|work | lol |
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| 17:23.37 | grendal_prime | sick as well..those little guys go off to the germ farm (my name for childcare) and come back with new interesting viruses daily now. |
| 17:24.03 | grendal_prime | wich they manage to shake in 2 days...and it takes me a week... |
| 17:25.12 | grendal_prime | i quite drinking years ago( considered a character flaw by most) and so i cant even kill these illnesses with industrial doses of alcohol |
| 17:26.09 | grendal_prime | im gonna get a suit that looks like darth vader. Resperator included and install an airpurification unit on it as well... |
| 17:27.21 | lardman|work | I reckon a trip to a volcano might do the job too - all that sulphur and heat ;) |
| 17:27.30 | lardman|work | I'm off home, have a nice evening |
| 17:32.51 | hrw|work | cu |
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| 17:36.33 | grendal_prime | hrw...how can i tell if that flash worked right |
| 17:36.42 | grendal_prime | it didnt take very long to flash just the zimage |
| 17:37.29 | grendal_prime | is there an ls i can run to find out which image is installed? |
| 17:50.05 | paxl | ls |
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| 18:15.43 | grendal_prime | how long does it usually take to flash just the kernel image? |
| 18:16.26 | mahadri | grendal_prime: tens of seconds. It's only 1.2 MB. |
| 18:16.39 | mahadri | grendal_prime: 'uname -a' will tell you which kernel is running |
| 18:17.46 | grendal_prime | that will give me the ram kernel split info as well? |
| 18:18.27 | grendal_prime | i tdoesnt |
| 18:18.40 | mahadri | no... but that might be at the top of the output when you run 'dmesg' |
| 18:18.53 | grendal_prime | ya it says 64 megs |
| 18:19.04 | grendal_prime | but honestly i dont know what it said before |
| 18:19.28 | grendal_prime | and the thing is...when i look at df it tells me that ram is almost full |
| 18:19.30 | grendal_prime | wich it is... |
| 18:19.49 | grendal_prime | because when i ran the rboot scripts it "copys" all the dir from the root to the sd |
| 18:20.13 | grendal_prime | what i cannot seem to get any sort of clarification on is ..what i can delete from the original root |
| 18:20.23 | grendal_prime | which i believe is called realroot now |
| 18:21.28 | grendal_prime | everytime i try and rename anything in that folder...(which is mounted now on /media/realroot) it tells me that it cannot rename folder |
| 18:21.48 | grendal_prime | im assuming that means i cant delete it ither |
| 18:22.18 | mahadri | Is it mounted read-only? |
| 18:22.39 | grendal_prime | i could get that with just the mount command right? |
| 18:23.03 | mahadri | try it |
| 18:23.43 | mahadri | It's possible that /etc/mtab is stale, though, and /proc/mounts always has the up-to-date mounts. |
| 18:24.03 | grendal_prime | hey if i give you some address info can you vnc in and look at this? |
| 18:24.22 | mahadri | sure |
| 18:27.51 | mahadri | I think so because it says 340MB free. |
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