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| 02:50.35 | *** topic/#openzaurus is OpenZaurus user discussion/support channel | developer discussion in #oe | http://openzaurus.org/ | Don't ask to ask, just ask. | OZ 3.5.3 -> http://openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.3/ | Report OZ bugs at http://bugs.openembedded.org/ l/p: guest/guest |
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| 06:50.10 | _law_ | has someone tried to open the usb cable (sl-760) |
| 07:28.52 | Ralafe | How does one repartition the microdrive on the 3100? |
| 07:40.12 | Ralafe | I figured it out. Anyone have a link to the 2.6 Borzoi test image? |
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| 07:57.49 | _law_ | Ralafe, you search http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/mirror/www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.4-RC/ ? |
| 07:58.51 | Ralafe | I don't know whether or not 3.5.4-RC uses a 2.6 kernel. There's a link to the 2.6 Borzoi image on the OZ site, but the link is broken. |
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| 08:01.39 | _law_ | Ralafe, here is another (newer) build http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/OZ/ but i dont know if it uses 2.6 for borzoi (its an testing release, be careful :-)) |
| 08:02.00 | _law_ | does anyone use usbnetwork ? |
| 08:02.33 | _law_ | i think my usb-cable is damaged :-( |
| 08:03.03 | Ralafe | I use network over usb. |
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| 08:07.12 | _law_ | Ralafe, linux or windows? |
| 08:08.33 | _law_ | Ralafe, is some kernel module needed on my Z do get it work? |
| 08:08.43 | _law_ | is use linux on my desktop |
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| 08:21.09 | Ralafe | Make sure it's enabled in your desktop kernel, either as a module or compiled in. |
| 08:32.20 | _law_ | Ralafe, but if i only connect my Z (with either module loaded) lsusb should show a device or? |
| 08:34.46 | JiniDog | yes |
| 08:35.00 | _law_ | but i dont see anything :-( |
| 08:35.14 | _law_ | so my usb cabel is damaged or? |
| 08:35.22 | JiniDog | as long as you have the correct moduls in the kernel |
| 08:35.46 | _law_ | JiniDog, Zaurus-side or PC-side? |
| 08:35.47 | JiniDog | checked that? http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/howto/usb-networking/ |
| 08:35.53 | JiniDog | both |
| 08:36.17 | _law_ | JiniDog, which modules are required on Z ? |
| 08:37.41 | JiniDog | usbdcore and perhaps usbdmonitor |
| 08:41.29 | _law_ | JiniDog, usbcore is here but now usbdcore (i have got an sl760) |
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| 08:50.03 | JiniDog | should be the same, you are using a 2.6 kernel, that is a difference |
| 08:51.51 | _law_ | JiniDog, but i dont get any dmeg output or something in lsusb |
| 08:52.03 | _law_ | so i should be my usb-cable or? |
| 08:52.42 | JiniDog | I would rather guess that you don't have set up your PCs kernel right |
| 08:52.50 | JiniDog | what kernel version? |
| 08:52.57 | JiniDog | and did you follow the guide above? |
| 08:53.12 | JiniDog | does you're USB port work with a USB stick? |
| 08:53.34 | _law_ | JiniDog, yes i also tested it on an windows notebook |
| 08:54.11 | JiniDog | well, you can boot into windows and see whether it "detectes new hardware" |
| 08:54.22 | JiniDog | if it does, you have no hardware problem |
| 08:54.32 | JiniDog | if it doesn't, well something is wrong then |
| 08:54.46 | _law_ | JiniDog, it doesnt |
| 08:55.19 | JiniDog | you should check your zaurus with another PC |
| 08:56.37 | XorA | _law_: not busted your Z again :-) |
| 08:59.41 | _law_ | XorA, no only the usb cable :-) never used it before, but i seams to be broken |
| 09:00.27 | XorA | _law_: sucks, I take it you have another cable to compare with |
| 09:01.07 | _law_ | XorA, no i only have an docking station for a 5000d :-( |
| 09:02.13 | _law_ | but i think the cable is damaged, after the zaurus plug :-( |
| 09:05.42 | _law_ | http://members.a1.net/patrick.steiner/dsc00003.jpg (only taken with my phone :-() |
| 09:06.25 | _law_ | but this look good, so it only could be the cable |
| 09:08.52 | XorA | _law_: looks like you had a soldering accident there :-) |
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| 09:12.25 | _law_ | XorA, i only opened the cable, havent done any soldering |
| 09:12.50 | alan|laptop | morning everyone |
| 09:12.50 | XorA | _law_: ah, looked like a soldering iron burn on the gromit |
| 09:17.07 | _law_ | XorA, gromit? i know my english is bad :-) |
| 09:17.50 | _law_ | is the powersupply needed? |
| 09:18.01 | XorA | _law_: the bit that stops the cable chaffing on plastic case |
| 09:57.42 | _law_ | XorA, i think you are right |
| 09:58.09 | _law_ | XorA, so i have do cut the cable... |
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| 10:00.56 | XorA | _law_: it didnt look deep enough in the pic to damage the individual conductors, but might give a clue that someone has messed with the cable somwhere |
| 10:01.36 | XorA | _law_: if you are not a proficient solderer/cable splicing, it might end up cheaper just buying a sync cable on ebay :-) |
| 10:01.43 | XorA | by cheaper I mean in time as well |
| 10:05.51 | Ralafe | Which file is supposed to be renamed to initrd.bin? |
| 10:06.46 | Jinidog | the big one :) |
| 10:09.02 | Ralafe | Oh, I thought that was the one that was to be renamed hdimage1.tgz |
| 10:09.49 | Ralafe | I'm trying to figure out what goes where for flashing 3.5.4-RC to a 3100 |
| 10:34.00 | Ralafe | What's the difference between the bootstrap image and the gpe/opie images? |
| 10:34.37 | _law_ | Ralafe, bootstrap is without any gui |
| 10:34.57 | Ralafe | Ah, cool. |
| 10:37.06 | Ralafe | Is there a way to re-partition the flash under OZ? |
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| 11:48.43 | alan__ | Ralafe: hi. afaik, there is no way to repartition the flash under OZ, because there is no real need to do it. |
| 11:49.13 | alan__ | Ralafe: i've been ofline for several minutes, maybe someone already answered |
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| 12:13.22 | Ralafe | alan|laptop: Well, I quickly run out of space on the root partition in flash, when I have all the space in the world on /home and 4 gigs on the hard drive. |
| 12:14.13 | hrw|work | Ralafe: you have borzoi - install all to hdd maybe? |
| 12:16.48 | alan|laptop | folk, a friend of mine showed me he could watch tv on his cell phone. Do you think there will be anyway to to this on a zaurus ? |
| 12:17.02 | alan|laptop | i know we can do something like this with vlc |
| 12:17.21 | Ralafe | Hmm, I figured there might be an option to do that in ipkg, forgot about that possibility. Right now, though, I find myself unable to install anything on a fresh reflash. No idea why. |
| 12:17.27 | alan|laptop | but i think about something like a dvb-t usb reciever... |
| 12:19.03 | alan|laptop | Ralafe: to install to anywhere else than root, add a line to your /etc/ipkg.conf file (everything is explained there) and then type ipkg -d [location_name] install [ipk_name] |
| 12:19.43 | Ralafe | ipkg -V 3 install gpsd scrolls for a few minutes, then spits out "Configuring unpacked pagkages" "Nothing to be done" and "An error occured, return value: 1." in that order. Happens with any package I try to install. |
| 12:20.14 | hrw|work | Ralafe: blame sharp for not using uDrive as default |
| 12:20.37 | Ralafe | This is on a fresh reflash, 21.9m free on target. |
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| 12:31.03 | Ralafe | Well, for a minute there, I thought it might have something to do with my system time being somewhere in 1970 |
| 12:31.12 | Ralafe | But changing that didn't fix anything |
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| 12:33.46 | hrw|work | xscale processors does not have RTC and forgot time each reboot |
| 12:35.02 | Ralafe | I figured. I just didn't re-set the date after flashing. |
| 12:35.31 | Ralafe | But unfortunately that didn't have much to do with the problem. |
| 12:48.44 | Ralafe | Is there a better way than -V 3 to get ipkg to spit out debug information? It doesn't want to tell me anything relevant to the error it's getting. |
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| 13:17.06 | Ralafe | My bad, I was deleting /etc/ipkg/arch.conf after re-flash. Very frustrating error. |
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| 14:16.06 | Ralafe | How do you get rid of alignment trap warnings? |
| 14:17.06 | hrw|work | in which app? |
| 14:18.16 | Ralafe | kismet, installed from the arm package at kismetwireless.net |
| 14:18.53 | Ralafe | kismet_2005.08.R1-arm.ipk |
| 14:19.56 | hrw|work | fix the program |
| 14:20.15 | Ralafe | What, exactly, causes the warnings? |
| 14:22.19 | folkert | does anyone around run the linux kernel 2.6.14? |
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| 14:26.47 | hrw|work | folkert: on Z or on desktop? |
| 14:26.56 | folkert | on desktop |
| 14:27.04 | hrw|work | Linux work 2.6.15-rc5 #5 PREEMPT Mon Dec 5 12:36:37 CET 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 14:27.13 | hrw|work | same ver on Zaurus |
| 14:27.34 | folkert | I've got a SL-5600, but the usb networking broke after upgrading my desktop |
| 14:27.53 | folkert | got the same experience? |
| 14:28.46 | hrw|work | I dont use usbnet with my sl-5500 which run 2.4.18. and my c760 use other API for usbnet |
| 14:28.57 | hrw|work | folkert: you lack 'zaurus' module probably on desktop |
| 14:29.10 | folkert | no, I don't |
| 14:29.29 | hrw|work | then pester linux-usb people |
| 14:29.49 | folkert | when I plug my zaurus in, the modules 'zaurus' 'cdc_ether' and 'usbnet' are loaded |
| 14:30.17 | folkert | before, 'usbnet' and 'cdc_subset' were loaded |
| 14:30.23 | folkert | that worked |
| 14:30.35 | folkert | but now it's broken somehow |
| 14:31.43 | hrw|work | pester linux-usb people |
| 14:31.52 | hrw|work | I dont know how to change it |
| 14:31.57 | folkert | right, I will |
| 14:32.06 | folkert | thanks anyway |
| 14:35.54 | Jinidog | folkert, I know that |
| 14:36.26 | Jinidog | That is a kernel bug that I experience with my zaurus since kernel 2.6.14 |
| 14:36.44 | Jinidog | I reported here, I mailed over the linux-usb list, but no one really cares |
| 14:37.34 | Jinidog | Put in usb-debug support, then you will probably find some output in dmesg |
| 14:38.01 | Jinidog | well, how is it broken? does usbd0 not show up in ifconfig or does the connection hang as soon as you use it |
| 14:38.07 | Jinidog | the later is my problem |
| 14:41.13 | folkert | right now, usb0 doesn't show up at all |
| 14:41.56 | folkert | but earlier (a previous version of udev probably) the connection worked, but crashed often when used |
| 14:42.51 | Jinidog | not showing off is one thing that has probably to do with a malconfigured kernel |
| 14:43.04 | Jinidog | the crash is the real problem |
| 14:43.44 | folkert | it's the same kernel as before, only (probably) an updated udev |
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| 15:13.23 | folkert | gee, it worked! |
| 15:13.56 | folkert | I don't know how, but with the altered drivers it just seems to work |
| 15:14.07 | Jinidog | altered drivers? |
| 15:14.32 | folkert | yes, as of 2.6.14 the module usbnet is split up in submodules |
| 15:14.46 | folkert | first just usbnet was loaded |
| 15:14.54 | folkert | then submodule cdc_subset |
| 15:15.03 | folkert | and now cdc_ether and zaurus |
| 15:15.55 | folkert | I now just have to try and fire it up automatically by hotplug |
| 15:17.09 | Jinidog | and can you ssh into your zaurus and get a correct output from dmesg without a hanging console |
| 15:19.17 | Jinidog | ? |
| 15:31.16 | Jinidog | folkert, please answer |
| 15:36.02 | folkert | sorry, but no, the connection often hangs for no particular reason |
| 15:36.06 | folkert | same as before |
| 15:36.26 | Jinidog | you see, that is the bug in the kernel |
| 15:36.44 | Jinidog | so I have at least one person else who can confirm it |
| 15:36.54 | Jinidog | try with kernel-2.6.13, that'll work |
| 15:37.17 | Jinidog | it looks as if only the SL-5600 is victim of this |
| 15:37.35 | Jinidog | I'll mail again to the devs |
| 15:39.06 | folkert | right |
| 15:41.00 | hrw|work | Jinidog: you have pxa250 and proper kernel? not kernel for pxa255? |
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