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00:01.45VR-BugI will start tomorrow with some small tests.
00:01.52VR-BugGood night!
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06:54.31Dima202Hey guys, anyone alive?
06:55.33_law_morning
06:55.37Dima202Hey law :)
06:55.43Dima202I have a Zc860 :)
06:55.52Dima202I see I have several choices for an OS
06:56.05Dima202OpenZaurus, pdaXrom, cacko
06:56.40_law_Dima202, yes
06:56.43Dima202It would be awesome to have my Zaurus act as a mini computer. But I need it to be a good organizer as well
06:57.05Dima202The primary reason I got the Z was because it could do both. Which OS is for me?
06:57.36_law_openzaurus ;-)
06:57.52Dima202hehe, why? I think you guys have an updated kernel
06:57.54_law_you could choose between opie and gpe in openzaurus
06:58.05_law_yes 2.6.15-rc5
06:58.30Dima202opie is the stock window manager? Or I don't understand
06:59.33Dima202What is opie and gpe?
06:59.48_law_yes opie (opie.handhelds.org) but gpe (gpe-handhelds.org) is also a wm
07:00.05_law_s/gpe-handhelds.org/gpe.handhelds.org
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07:00.37Dima202gpe-handelds.org doesn't exist
07:00.40_law_gpe uses an x-server
07:00.49_law_gpe.handhelds.org
07:01.08Dima202ooh
07:01.12Dima202x-server is good
07:01.50Dima202I can run linux apps which require x! :)
07:02.09Dima202Right?
07:02.31_law_Dima202, right
07:02.45Dima202How is the speed? It works quick? Quicker then Cacko?
07:03.01Dima202Also what prog. is for organizer?
07:03.48_law_Dima202, i dont know cacko very much
07:04.07Dima202What about organizer
07:04.18Dima202Does it have good apps for organizer?
07:04.54_law_unter opie der is opie-pim stuff and kopi stuff, with gpe you could use gpe-pim stuff :-)
07:05.22_law_Dima202, this is my gpe zaurus (http://helmsdeep.homelinux.net/~pat/images/Screenshot-6.png)
07:05.50Dima202looks like gbone
07:05.52Dima202a little
07:06.12Dima202gnome
07:06.40Dima202Can you add folders in the desktop?
07:06.55Dima202is the opie or gpe?
07:09.07_law_Dima202, this is gpe (gnome like gui) opie is kde like
07:09.16_law_but without x-server
07:09.37Dima202niceee
07:09.39Dima202hehe
07:09.59Dima202Okay, I am going to install it. Just download the files from openzaurus and install like usual
07:10.02_law_but you can find more infos on there homepages
07:10.03Dima202right?
07:10.13_law_yes
07:10.31_law_which rom have you installed currently?
07:10.34Dima202What is your Z btw?
07:10.45Dima202I just installed cacko, and hate it that I can't minimize
07:12.48_law_my Z is an sl760c
07:20.56Dima202What kind of a Z is that?
07:21.08Dima202s1760c?
07:21.11Dima202c760?
07:21.56Dima202ooh I see
07:22.02Dima202No, it is an c860
07:22.10Dima202sl series where 5500, 5600, 6000
07:22.20Dima202clamshell is the c series
07:26.14_law_Dima202, i have got an SL-5000d and an SL-760c
07:27.42Dima202nice, the 5000 developer version :)
07:28.07Dima202but c760 is not and ls series
07:34.08_law_Dima202, ok :-)
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07:39.58guiHello,
07:40.00guisomeone have an howTo for cross-compiling applications for Zaurus please? (in french or English?)
07:47.18gui<PROTECTED>
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07:51.37_law_gui, http://oe.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/GettingStarted
08:01.53guiThank you _law_
08:01.54gui:)
08:31.37Dima202Anyone have original sharp rom for the C860?
08:31.43Dima202Or the english version?
08:32.12Dima202I need to install it so it would setup my partitions on the Z correctly
08:33.15Dima202anyone?
08:57.33hrw|workDima202: look at trisoft.de website
08:57.40hrw|workDima202: or conics.net
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09:25.23alan|laptopmorning everyone
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09:46.27alan|laptopmmm... found a 4gb microdrive for 169$... what do you think about that price ? does it seems natural ?
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09:56.46hrw|work~change 170 usd to pln
10:15.26Dima202Hey guys
10:15.52Dima202I don't understand, how do I repartition to standard Sharp?
10:16.05Dima202I used to have Cacko installed
10:16.48_law_Dima202, you have to NAND restore
10:17.04Dima202hmm.. How do I do that?
10:19.35Dima202I downloaded it
10:19.36Dima202SYSTC860.DBK file
10:19.39Dima202But how do I use it?
10:20.18_law_Dima202, http://oesf.org/index.php?title=C860_Customizations#NAND_Flash_Backup.2FRestore
10:22.36Dima202Ohj man
10:22.44Dima202I dont have a CF card! :(
10:24.35Dima202So I can't install Open Zaurus?
10:24.52Dima202It says it's required :(
10:26.10Dima202is there a work around?
10:28.30guialan|laptop: where?
10:31.26Dima202So is it possible without CF?
10:31.41guiwith SD yes
10:32.23hrw|workgui: flashing is possible from sd, cf. nandrestore rather not
10:32.30Dima202bAckup to CompactFlash only (can't backup to SD)
10:32.54guiNAND restore is possible with SD card on my SL-6000L :)
10:33.07guiho  backup....I don't no...
10:33.25Dima202Do I need to do backup?
10:33.32Dima202I have nothing to backup
10:34.34guiwath do you want to do?
10:35.12guiwhat*
10:39.22Dima202I had Cacko installed, want to try out OpenZaurus GPE
10:39.36guiok
10:39.50guiHow did you install cacko ?
10:40.30guiwith an SD card?
10:44.30Dima202yEAH
10:44.33Dima202It was simple
10:44.48Dima202I just put it in, rebooted, chose option 4 and pressed sd
10:44.50guiSo, you install OZ with the same teknik's :p
10:44.53Dima202It rebooted and thats it
10:45.08Dima202I tried
10:45.16Dima202I thought it installed
10:45.25Dima202But then it looked like it was booting
10:45.31Dima202Had the openzaurus logo on top
10:45.37Dima202But thats it
10:45.38_law_Dima202, you have to NAND restore, if you have installed pdaxrom or cacko before
10:45.42Dima202Didnt do anything else
10:45.51Dima202Yeah,.., But I need a CF card for that
10:45.53Dima202ckup to CompactFlash only (can't backup to SD)
10:45.59Dima202Is there a way around this?
10:46.02_law_Dima202, i think so
10:46.06guiDima202: go ship an CF :)
10:46.15_law_Dima202, i dont know
10:46.21guibuy*
10:47.08Dima202:( I am so broke right now! It's Christmas, need to buy presents
10:47.13Dima202no one is going to buy me a CF card as a present :(
10:47.20Dima202Prob. a sweater
10:48.14Dima202So no way I can do this without CF card?
10:48.26_law_you could try to get in the nand-restore setup perhaps you could choose sd card also i dont know
10:50.43guiDima202: where do you live?
10:50.48gui(in france?)
10:52.06Dima202Brooklyn
10:53.17Dima202New York
10:53.17Dima202USA
10:55.49guio
10:55.51guik
10:56.21guiBut, on my Zaurus SL-6000L I can make a NAND restore with my SD card! (I'm sure!)
10:56.31guiDid you try it on your zaurus?
10:57.44Dima202Not yet
10:57.48Dima202I am afraid to
10:57.52Dima202But I will try anyways
10:58.08guiNo reason to be afraid
10:58.33guiI f your Zaurus doesn't support it, he will say to you :) (I think :)
10:58.42guilunch time...
10:58.43guibye
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11:03.22Dima202hmm
11:03.23Dima202Strange
11:03.28Dima202I pressed option 3
11:03.37Dima202and then yes and it just tried booting
11:03.49Dima202It is all in Japanese so I dont understand what it says
11:05.33_law_and there is nothing like SD CF or so?
11:06.42Dima202no
11:06.50Dima202I tried holding D and M after battery thing
11:06.56Dima202But it also just tries to boot
11:08.08_law_Dima202, this is a little bit trickie i had to remove the battery so it works after that (only connected to cable)
11:08.41_law_Dima202, you should try some situations, you have to come into a service menu
11:10.12_law_Dima202, http://trisoft.de/pdf/c750qse.pdf this could help you
11:11.07_law_page 22
11:13.20Dima202k got it
11:13.32Dima202Now I picked the nand flash backup
11:13.38Dima202says cant get free soze
11:13.40Dima202:(
11:14.49_law_hmmm going for lunch, back again later
11:15.01Dima202k
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12:02.35alan|laptopguys, when gui comes back, can you give him http://www.ic2005.com/html/2005/show-37.htm for me ?
12:02.39alan|laptopi got to go
12:02.43alan|laptopsee you
12:02.51hrw|workcu
12:03.13_law_cu
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12:15.30Dima202hmm I wonder if I could isntalled this on my c86-
12:15.47_law_hi
12:15.48Dima202So it will be like the c3100
12:15.51Dima202Hey
12:22.21hrw|workDima202: you could
12:23.17Dima202oh shoot
12:23.23Dima202I just killed my SD i think
12:23.34Dima202I cant access it to format it under mac nor Z
12:26.28Dima202says it a read only file system
12:27.04_law_Dima202: hardware lock is off ?
12:27.21Dima202hahahaha
12:27.23Dima202LMAI
12:27.28Dima202LMAO
12:27.33Dima202Yeah! It was on
12:27.34Dima202lol
12:27.42Dima202I didn't even know about that
12:27.46_law_;-)
12:28.07Dima202Love ya man
12:28.51hrw|workthe funny thing is that it was time when zaurus does not cared about that switch
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12:30.34_law_so it is only a software thing :-)
12:32.33Dima202really?
12:32.35Dima202wow
12:32.38Dima202That's amazing
12:33.08Dima202lock the disk, zaurus: fuck you
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21:46.01radugahi
21:46.08radugaany zaurers awake?
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22:05.30JiniDogawake and ready for duty, Sir!
22:19.37Niacinanyone had problems with mozilla / firefox
22:19.48Niacinnot accepting input from touch screen?
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