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| 03:08.51 | Axioplase | Hi |
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| 03:32.32 | Axioplase | package manager keeps segfaulting :/ |
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| 03:40.06 | Axioplase | and now it froze. |
| 03:41.50 | Axioplase | and now, oz froze at boot. just a blinking cursor under the logo. |
| 03:43.14 | Axioplase | any idea on what to do to boot ? |
| 03:45.21 | Axioplase | reflash? |
| 03:46.23 | sheepbat | will it keep freezing on boot? |
| 03:46.43 | Axioplase | dunno. |
| 03:46.53 | Axioplase | now, it won't turn on at all... |
| 03:46.57 | sheepbat | hmm... |
| 03:47.01 | sheepbat | is it plugged in? |
| 03:47.04 | sheepbat | battery may be low |
| 03:47.12 | Axioplase | plugged in |
| 03:47.16 | Axioplase | battery is full |
| 03:48.00 | Axioplase | ok. It turns on. but doesn't boot. |
| 03:48.14 | sheepbat | what's it doing then? |
| 03:48.29 | Axioplase | I was installing soft apps on sd when it froze. I had to reset. |
| 03:48.42 | Axioplase | now, I see on top "openZaurus" and the mascott. |
| 03:48.47 | sheepbat | oh |
| 03:48.49 | Axioplase | and a blinking cursor below. |
| 03:48.52 | sheepbat | give it some time then? |
| 03:48.56 | sheepbat | hmm |
| 03:48.58 | Axioplase | nothing else, nothing more. |
| 03:49.09 | sheepbat | what does the enter key do? |
| 03:49.46 | Axioplase | nothing. |
| 03:49.51 | sheepbat | hmm |
| 03:49.58 | sheepbat | it might just still be booting |
| 03:50.31 | Axioplase | I think it ain't. |
| 03:50.43 | Axioplase | it should show "booting" or something like that. shouldn't it? |
| 03:50.46 | sheepbat | oz can take a while |
| 03:50.50 | sheepbat | oh.. hmm |
| 03:50.59 | sheepbat | which screen is it showing? |
| 03:51.11 | sheepbat | a console that just happens to have the icon at the top? |
| 03:51.17 | Axioplase | yes |
| 03:51.26 | sheepbat | or a full-screen image with the logo? |
| 03:51.26 | sheepbat | oh |
| 03:51.27 | sheepbat | hmm |
| 03:51.39 | sheepbat | yeah.. at that point, I'd try a reflash |
| 03:51.42 | Axioplase | it's 3.4.3. a console with logo at top. |
| 03:51.44 | Axioplase | ok. |
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| 04:18.10 | *** topic/#openzaurus is OpenZaurus user discussion/support channel | developer discussion in #oe | http://openzaurus.org/ | Don't ask to ask, just ask. | OZ 3.5.3 -> http://openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.3/ | Report OZ bugs at http://bugs.openembedded.org/ l/p: guest/guest |
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| 08:51.20 | *** topic/#openzaurus is OpenZaurus user discussion/support channel | developer discussion in #oe | http://openzaurus.org/ | Don't ask to ask, just ask. | OZ 3.5.3 -> http://openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.3/ | Report OZ bugs at http://bugs.openembedded.org/ l/p: guest/guest |
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| 10:00.34 | alan|laptop | plop |
| 10:13.36 | alan|laptop | morning hrw|work |
| 10:14.34 | hrw|work | hi alan |
| 10:14.44 | hrw|work | alan|laptop: I finally got own copy of Linux+ 10/2005 |
| 10:15.26 | alan|laptop | hehehe |
| 10:15.46 | alan|laptop | does it look like the french version ? |
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| 10:16.29 | hrw|work | alan|laptop: I saw it when it was released ;) |
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| 10:20.09 | hrw|work | hi StarScream |
| 10:20.26 | hrw|work | someone here use opie on collie? |
| 10:22.15 | StarScream | hrw|work: yeh |
| 10:22.20 | StarScream | i don't have it on me atm though |
| 10:22.31 | StarScream | i can test it tonight though |
| 10:22.33 | StarScream | and let you know |
| 10:27.10 | hrw|work | ok. I will give image |
| 10:27.34 | hrw|work | you know that it will be unofficial image ofcourse |
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| 10:31.39 | hrw|work | StarScream: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/oz-3.5.4-rc-collie/ is my oz 3.5.4-rc3-hrw opie-image with 64/0 kernel |
| 10:32.07 | hrw|work | StarScream: on my collie it boots, sd cards are automounted without problem (ext2 or vfat), wifi card works out-of-box |
| 10:33.41 | StarScream | hrw|work: ok, no probs . If you leave it up for tonight, i'll test it and get back to you. |
| 10:33.49 | hrw|work | ok |
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| 12:37.30 | StarScream | yeh of course :) |
| 12:37.46 | StarScream | oops wrong window |
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| 12:46.24 | alan|laptop | ok... we are the 30th... mickeyl saied he hoped he would release 3.5.4 in 2005... I've never been so impatient for any software to be released... |
| 12:46.52 | hrw|work | you probably have to forget about it |
| 12:47.02 | alan|laptop | arff... |
| 12:47.06 | alan|laptop | why that ? |
| 12:48.21 | hrw|work | I have a bad feeling about it |
| 12:48.31 | alan|laptop | so do i indeed... |
| 12:48.49 | alan|laptop | but who knows. |
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| 13:55.27 | fred87 | hmm over last few days /lots/ of things in the 3.4.3 feed have gained a libqpe1 >= 1.2.0 dependency, but that doesn't seem to be in the feed |
| 13:55.55 | hrw|work | fred87: over last days? those feeds are from 2005.04.xx |
| 13:56.56 | fred87 | hrw|work: well, 4 days ago, did a fresh flash of 3.5.3, did ipkg update; ipkg install {sharp-compat-libs,opie-task-bluetooth,opie-task-wlan}, all worked fine |
| 13:57.14 | fred87 | 3 days did qpe-gaim, got missing qpe1 and ts-conf error |
| 13:57.29 | fred87 | yesterday reflashed, got same error on the things i installed 4 days ago |
| 13:58.28 | hrw|work | fred87: your config lack machine feed |
| 13:58.31 | hrw|work | read openzaurus.org |
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| 14:05.08 | hrw|work | fred87: which Z you have? |
| 14:05.17 | fred87 | SL-5500 |
| 14:05.20 | fred87 | added the feed |
| 14:05.31 | fred87 | but when it adds links for libc6, it dies |
| 14:05.39 | hrw|work | want to check my 3.5.4-rc? |
| 14:06.15 | hrw|work | http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/oz-3.5.4-rc-collie/ - opie-image + kernel 64-0 |
| 14:06.28 | fred87 | stable enough for everyday use? |
| 14:06.50 | hrw|work | should work better then plain 3.5.3 anyway |
| 14:06.51 | fred87 | well, need to reflash anyways as it can't start init after libc dying |
| 14:07.24 | javra | when will 3.5.4 be stable? |
| 14:08.56 | hrw|work | javra: 'when will oz be stable' you mean? |
| 14:09.17 | javra | ^^ yes okay |
| 14:09.51 | hrw|work | javra: if users will cooperate like they now then probably never |
| 14:11.47 | javra | perhaps the reason is that there aren't much users... i dont know |
| 14:11.50 | fred87 | hrw|work: what am i meant to do with the rootfs.tar.bz2 ? |
| 14:12.08 | hrw|work | fred87: ignore |
| 14:12.20 | fred87 | okay thanks |
| 14:13.28 | hrw|work | javra: many users complain about things but when they get info 'add it into bugtracker' they disappear.. |
| 14:14.01 | javra | thats bad... |
| 14:14.37 | javra | i got a zaurus 2 months ago... a SL-5500G from ebay |
| 14:14.54 | javra | and till now i havent noticed any "real" bugs in OZ |
| 14:15.16 | hrw|work | great |
| 14:16.00 | javra | just some dependencies which didn't want to work, but the fault was in the ipkg config |
| 14:16.04 | fred87 | only major thing i've noticed is that opie-mail can't cope with my mailbox :P |
| 14:16.53 | hrw|work | javra: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/oz-3.5.4-rc-collie/ - opie-image + kernel 64-0 which you could test |
| 14:17.24 | fred87 | hrw|work: is it possible to install the sharp rom to SD with multiboot? |
| 14:17.39 | javra | hrw: i'll try it later |
| 14:17.46 | hrw|work | fred87: dont know |
| 14:17.55 | fred87 | okie, just need to grab libsl from somewhere :p |
| 14:18.06 | hrw|work | I used sharprom 2.38 for ~2 weeks and it was nearly 2 years ago |
| 14:18.58 | hrw|work | then only OZ on my collie (5500) |
| 14:19.36 | javra | when i got my zaurus it had a very old version of sharp rom installed, but the vendor told me to change to OZ ^^ |
| 14:22.32 | fred87 | would be handy to store different configs for different ESSID |
| 14:22.48 | hrw|work | would be |
| 14:23.46 | fred87 | hmmm know what version of qt qte is based on? |
| 14:24.23 | hrw|work | qt/e 2.3.x has common base with qt 2.3.x |
| 14:24.32 | hrw|work | same with qte3<>qt3 and qte4<>qt4 |
| 14:26.19 | hrw|work | opie use qte 2.3.10 |
| 14:26.50 | fred87 | bah |
| 14:28.02 | fred87 | hmm okay to use the 3.5.3 opie feed? |
| 14:28.37 | hrw|work | fred87: should work |
| 14:28.59 | fred87 | the default opie feed gets 404 on RC |
| 14:29.50 | hrw|work | fred87: with 3.5.3 image? |
| 14:30.59 | fred87 | nope, your RC |
| 14:32.04 | fred87 | erm interesting; all the letter and number keys are suddenly stuck in symbol mode |
| 14:32.25 | hrw|work | fred87: ok. so I will fix them in my next builds |
| 14:32.35 | hrw|work | fred87: works on my collie |
| 14:33.21 | fred87 | this a collie |
| 14:35.56 | fred87 | oooh it's looking at openzaurus.org not the mirror, just for the opie feed |
| 14:36.13 | hrw|work | noticed - fixed will be in next my build |
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| 14:41.05 | hrw|work | images replaced - ipkg.conf correct now |
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| 14:57.32 | hrw|work | cu all - HNY |
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| 17:00.35 | fred87 | anyone know how to install libc6 without hosing the Z? |
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| 17:01.37 | fred87 | ah it doesn't like going on SD |
| 17:02.23 | Laibsch | Hi, is it possible to import adresses from the Sharp ROM to the OZ contacts program? |
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| 17:31.55 | fred87 | hmmm installing sharp-compat-libs tries to downgrade libc |
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| 17:44.21 | fred87 | any recommendations for a web browser? |
| 18:01.53 | Laibsch | What pacakge do I need to access my SD card? |
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| 18:19.01 | fred87 | Laibsch: if it's supported, you shouldn't need any |
| 18:20.06 | Laibsch | Well, fact of the matter is I cannot use it. Can you? |
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| 19:09.15 | grendal_prime | ok going to the big city to do some shopping |
| 19:09.50 | grendal_prime | and im thinking ill pick up a cf gps card...and im wondering...anything i need to look for specifically..and anything to avoid? |
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| 19:32.17 | Axioplase | Hi! |
| 19:33.06 | Axioplase | Where are stored the URLs to update packages? because they all are openzaurus.org/official/andsoon which isn't working anymore. and having to re enter the mirrors manually is a harsh... |
| 19:33.33 | Axioplase | Since I keep flashing my zaurus, I have to renter them more than a dozen times a day... |
| 19:34.14 | Axioplase | I don't know why, but when installing new software, my zaurus keeps crashing, won't reboot (freezes on boot screen before init), and I have to flash it again and again... |
| 19:35.51 | fred87 | the mirror linked on openzaurus.org |
| 19:38.23 | alan__ | guys, does anyone know if 3.5.4RC can be used with 3.5.3 feeds ? |
| 19:38.28 | fred87 | yep |
| 19:40.40 | Axioplase | fred87: I meant "where on the zaurus are they stored?" |
| 19:40.47 | fred87 | /etc/ipkg.conf |
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| 19:44.38 | Axioplase | fred87: thanks. a few others questions: why do linking often fails when installing new packages, and is it often it crasehs so that I have no toher choice than reflashing it? (oz3.4.3 on a 5000d) |
| 19:46.42 | fred87 | linking i /guess/ is a bad package, as for crashing, i've only ever experienced that with the gui package manager, never with ipkg in console |
| 19:46.49 | fred87 | so use console :) |
| 19:46.55 | Axioplase | I'm installing softs on SD card, not RAM, if this might be a reason... |
| 19:47.08 | Axioplase | hum... I'll try the console tool then... |
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| 20:05.23 | Axioplas1 | hum.. any idea why I can't ssh from my zaurus? I get "no auth methods could be used" |
| 20:27.30 | javra | ve got the same problem |
| 20:27.51 | javra | but it s possible to ssh from the pc to the zaurus! |
| 20:32.19 | fred87 | anyone had opera segfault on them and fix it? |
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| 21:08.47 | javra | i ve had a segfault when i tried to start gaim, but i couldn't solve it... |
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| 21:34.18 | fred87 | javra: fixed it for opera; do you have a qte-font-helvetica-* package installed? |
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| 23:56.36 | javra | cu i have to sleep a bit |