| 00:01.08 | hrw | http://pastebin.com/506079 - argh |
| 00:02.44 | CoreDump|home | ouch |
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| 00:18.45 | hrw | http://wiki.openwrt.org/Donations is simplicity ;) maybe we should prepare that kind of list too ;) |
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| 00:30.07 | hrw | cu |
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| 03:59.37 | mnm | Hi! when is 3.4.3 planed to release? |
| 04:05.12 | andrewy | I always run out of space while try to install things on my 5500, is there a way to make it download the ipkgs to a different directory? |
| 04:06.22 | mnm | ipkg -d card install pakage.ipk |
| 04:06.27 | mnm | ;) |
| 04:06.30 | andrewy | I did that |
| 04:06.35 | andrewy | yet it still runs out of space :s |
| 04:06.41 | mnm | you mean like updateing |
| 04:06.53 | andrewy | Downloading http://192.168.1.101:2626/gtk+_2.8.9-r0_arm.ipk |
| 04:06.53 | andrewy | ipkg: write: No space left on device |
| 04:07.02 | andrewy | i think its downloading the ipkg's to the wrong device |
| 04:07.07 | mnm | well what i did is deleted unneede pkgs first then installed whatever |
| 04:08.10 | mnm | the pkg.conf file or osmething like that is in root and it grows when you install something |
| 04:08.27 | mnm | even though the actual files go somewhere else |
| 04:08.45 | andrewy | where is it? |
| 04:08.50 | mnm | dunno |
| 04:09.13 | mnm | but you can't ove it easily and its esential to pakage installing |
| 04:09.31 | mnm | but I think in new OZ vers its going to be in the RAM |
| 04:09.38 | andrewy | good |
| 04:09.45 | mnm | yup |
| 04:10.10 | mnm | nobody likes to help in this channel but me.... |
| 04:10.28 | andrewy | others answered questions earlier, no ones here |
| 04:10.46 | andrewy | do you know of *anything* i can move to get more space? |
| 04:11.19 | mnm | browse through the pkg list and see what you don't need and uninstall |
| 04:11.29 | andrewy | i cant find it |
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| 04:11.39 | mnm | find what this list? |
| 04:11.42 | andrewy | yeah |
| 04:11.47 | andrewy | pkg.conf you said? |
| 04:12.21 | mnm | no no, go to add/remove pkg i think the see which one check it and press the green arrow |
| 04:12.32 | mnm | then press uninstall |
| 04:12.39 | andrewy | ah |
| 04:12.47 | mnm | yup |
| 04:12.56 | mnm | its kinda tricky to find that out |
| 04:13.16 | andrewy | lol |
| 04:13.18 | andrewy | i dont like guis |
| 04:14.22 | mnm | I don't understand why this people put so much just in a fresh install.. like who needs ppp like if there is a CF modem card or something and that everyone needs IPSEC and other tunneling stuff... no brainer if you ask me |
| 04:14.39 | andrewy | yeah |
| 04:15.09 | mnm | its not like its already up on the web ready to download from anyone who need it |
| 04:15.10 | Luke-Jr | as long as all drivers are in the image, that's the most important thing |
| 04:15.31 | andrewy | now i have 444kb free |
| 04:15.33 | Luke-Jr | in particular, wifi and storage |
| 04:15.34 | andrewy | wow |
| 04:15.36 | mnm | yup you got that right drivers good, too many Acc bad |
| 04:16.07 | mnm | so when is 3.5.4 coming out? |
| 04:16.14 | Luke-Jr | some day |
| 04:16.22 | mnm | I wondering if I should switch from pdaxrom |
| 04:16.28 | Luke-Jr | if you have a Cxx0, you can use my fork |
| 04:16.37 | mnm | of PXrom? |
| 04:16.48 | Luke-Jr | of OZ |
| 04:16.53 | mnm | oh |
| 04:16.58 | Luke-Jr | GPE-based, right now |
| 04:17.05 | Luke-Jr | working on getting KDE to build |
| 04:17.30 | mnm | no its cuz there are more pkgs available for PXROM and nice window managers and more geeky drivers |
| 04:17.36 | mnm | I have it on a 5500 |
| 04:17.54 | andrewy | pxrom works fine on a 5500? |
| 04:18.03 | mnm | sure definately |
| 04:18.14 | andrewy | the website said it would be laggy |
| 04:18.18 | mnm | naw |
| 04:18.33 | mnm | but they odn't cut down on cpu consuption thats for sure |
| 04:18.58 | mnm | the only reason I switched is cuz of a patched hostap driver I can't find for OZ |
| 04:19.07 | Luke-Jr | build it |
| 04:19.15 | mnm | If i could find a binary for OZ i would go back |
| 04:19.23 | Luke-Jr | pfft binaries |
| 04:19.44 | andrewy | theyre not hard to build, i just got the pda two days ago and dont have a problem with it |
| 04:20.14 | mnm | there is not enough good docs about compiling for a vannila 3.5.3 kernel |
| 04:20.17 | andrewy | this space thing is ridiculous though, i'm running out of space due to *symbolic links* |
| 04:20.17 | Luke-Jr | binaries are a necessary evil |
| 04:20.26 | Luke-Jr | someone needs to build a CPU that runs C code |
| 04:20.34 | mnm | shhea |
| 04:20.42 | Luke-Jr | mnm: you will not get a vanilla kernel to run on a Z |
| 04:20.57 | mnm | well i mean default kernel |
| 04:21.03 | mnm | soory |
| 04:21.13 | Luke-Jr | so don't use default kernel |
| 04:21.18 | mnm | ? why |
| 04:21.24 | Luke-Jr | just build the entire system yourself |
| 04:21.28 | mnm | no i don't if thats what you mean |
| 04:21.30 | Luke-Jr | well, use default |
| 04:21.34 | Luke-Jr | but don't use 3.5.3's |
| 04:21.59 | mnm | I'll take that back i was using 3.4.3 kernel default |
| 04:22.15 | mnm | but no docs to compile apps for it |
| 04:22.36 | andrewy | dont you just use OE? |
| 04:22.36 | mnm | at least not after compiling the kernel yourself |
| 04:22.44 | mnm | dunno |
| 04:23.00 | mnm | for apps to run on default? |
| 04:23.19 | Luke-Jr | DISTRO = "openzaurus-3.5.3" |
| 04:23.52 | mnm | and the mods will run on a default... |
| 04:24.03 | Luke-Jr | who knows |
| 04:24.08 | Luke-Jr | if it doesn't, just use your own kernel |
| 04:24.10 | Luke-Jr | big deal |
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| 08:12.20 | prh | anyone got any recent beta images for me to test on a 750? |
| 08:16.46 | NAbyss | shadows: You around? |
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| 08:20.18 | NAbyss | shadows: I have a c3000 opie image ready, but gpe's failing on libmimedir |
| 08:24.48 | shadows | NAbyss: pong |
| 08:25.01 | shadows | NAbyss: i'd love to try out the opie image, you're a hell of a guy (good thing!) |
| 08:25.23 | DataBeaver | Hm, I'm having problems fetching gpgme-1.0.3.tar.gz... |
| 08:26.54 | NAbyss | shadows: http://zaurus.tucuxi.org/c3000/images/ |
| 08:27.09 | NAbyss | I'll keep prodding around with libmimedir |
| 08:27.45 | shadows | is it covered in the oe bugs db? |
| 08:28.04 | shadows | i've seen a lot of bugs that were fixed in .dev that exist still in the fam083 branch |
| 08:28.13 | DataBeaver | It seems that the gnupg server is overloaded... Anyone happen to have that tarball around? |
| 08:28.16 | NAbyss | shadows: Not sure.. I'll take a look |
| 08:28.29 | NAbyss | DataBeaver: Not sure.. I think my compile's been failing on it |
| 08:28.39 | NAbyss | DataBeaver: You might want to check planetmirror.com, I think they mirror gnupg |
| 08:28.48 | DataBeaver | Ok, let's see. |
| 08:30.58 | NAbyss | shadows: I think I've found a fix.. compile time. |
| 08:31.14 | shadows | remember, bugs are important to submit |
| 08:31.18 | shadows | :) |
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| 08:31.32 | NAbyss | shadows: I've found the bugreport for libmimedir |
| 08:32.22 | DataBeaver | Yup, found it. Thanks. |
| 08:33.39 | DataBeaver | Bitbake doesn't like the file though... |
| 08:34.05 | DataBeaver | It's still trying to fetch it. |
| 08:34.09 | shadows | may need to nuke the /tmp work directory |
| 08:34.15 | shadows | oh |
| 08:34.24 | shadows | i don't know then |
| 08:34.36 | NAbyss | DataBeaver: Check what filename it's trying to grab.. might be an extra _ or - in there somewhere. |
| 08:35.15 | DataBeaver | Exact same filename |
| 08:35.33 | DataBeaver | Do I need to generate md5 for it? |
| 08:36.13 | NAbyss | Just chucking it in the sources dir should suffice |
| 08:36.38 | DataBeaver | hm... |
| 08:37.40 | DataBeaver | The md5 file helped. |
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| 08:45.22 | NAbyss | shadows: Looks like gpe's compiling for now.. will let you know when it's done |
| 08:55.33 | shadows | NAbyss: nice. i think that URL you presented is not working here |
| 08:55.52 | shadows | does tucuxi.org resolve? |
| 08:56.36 | NAbyss | shadows: It should... what IP do you get for tucuxi.org? |
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| 08:57.19 | NAbyss | Should be 220.253.60.240 |
| 08:57.23 | shadows | PING tucuxi.org (220.253.60.240) 56(84) bytes of data. |
| 08:57.31 | NAbyss | Hmm, weird. |
| 08:57.42 | shadows | oh weird, it's working now |
| 08:57.51 | shadows | that must be something peculiar to my wifi setup |
| 08:57.57 | shadows | i haven't mastered iptables yet |
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| 08:58.44 | shadows | good news is i've got my GPSlim236 unit working through the USB serial converter cable |
| 08:58.55 | shadows | so i can test whatever image you give me with a GPS unit |
| 08:58.56 | shadows | :) |
| 08:59.26 | NAbyss | Cool :) |
| 09:00.31 | shadows | that is a great little GPS tranciever |
| 09:00.37 | shadows | it does USB and also bluetooth |
| 09:01.06 | NAbyss | Nice |
| 09:01.55 | shadows | okay, downloading stuff |
| 09:05.07 | shadows | modem like speeds 8k/s, i'm going to get some sleep while this downloads |
| 09:08.09 | NAbyss | Yeah.. my ADSL sucks for upstream stuff. |
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| 10:38.16 | DataBeaver | Yay, I think I got gpe-image compiled. |
| 10:40.04 | DataBeaver | Now if I just could find the resulting files... |
| 10:43.27 | DataBeaver | There it is. |
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| 10:56.24 | hrw|tv | morning |
| 10:56.26 | hrw|tv | mnm: ping |
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| 11:13.05 | DataBeaver | Yay, GPE 2.7 is starting |
| 11:20.37 | DataBeaver | Next step, setup wlan |
| 11:32.44 | DataBeaver | Hm, I seem to be missing the prism2_cs driver... |
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| 11:39.59 | DataBeaver | Okay, it's hostap_cs now. |
| 11:41.18 | hrw|tv | yep |
| 11:43.18 | DataBeaver | Hm, I have wifi0 and wlan0... Why? |
| 11:43.47 | NAbyss | DataBeaver: I blame hostap_cs.. looks like wlan0's the functional interface, and wifi0 does zilch. |
| 11:43.55 | hrw|tv | thats how hostap work. does not touch wifi0 - use wlan0 |
| 11:43.59 | DataBeaver | ok |
| 11:46.02 | DataBeaver | Either vi or x-terminal-emulator is buggy... |
| 11:46.25 | NAbyss | My money'd be on the terminal |
| 11:46.33 | NAbyss | Or an incorrect terminfo. |
| 11:47.48 | hrw|tv | what is fscked? |
| 11:48.55 | DataBeaver | Example: I have "foobar" on a line. I go to beginning of line, press i, press tab. The line now reads "foobar foobar" |
| 11:49.03 | DataBeaver | Pressing Ctrl-L corrects this |
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| 11:49.44 | hrw|tv | hmm.. I have vim installed |
| 11:50.06 | DataBeaver | Iäm going to install it too |
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| 11:50.29 | DataBeaver | Just had to use vi to get network going to transfer the vim package |
| 11:50.59 | NAbyss | DataBeaver: I'd blame the terminfo or $TERM. |
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| 11:51.11 | DataBeaver | Kinda strange that the graphical setup tool started to complain about not having write permissions to the file... |
| 11:51.27 | DataBeaver | TERM is vt100 |
| 11:53.44 | DataBeaver | Hm, how do I paste text into the terminal? |
| 11:54.03 | DataBeaver | Fn-V isn't working. |
| 11:54.12 | NAbyss | Not sure.. I know how to do it with opie-console, just not gpe. |
| 11:54.45 | DataBeaver | This seems to be rxvt |
| 11:55.20 | hrw|tv | rxvt-unicode |
| 11:57.19 | DataBeaver | err, the vi binary isn't in any package? |
| 11:57.39 | hrw|tv | its busybox vi |
| 11:57.47 | DataBeaver | ok |
| 11:57.58 | DataBeaver | No wonder it's so limited then... |
| 11:58.32 | DataBeaver | Is there any reason for busybox other than that it's smaller than the separate utilities? |
| 12:03.48 | hrw|tv | DataBeaver: give each user 256M of storage space then we will stop using busybox |
| 12:04.20 | hrw|tv | DataBeaver: reason which you said is most importatnt one |
| 12:04.21 | DataBeaver | I'm not saying it wouldn't be a good default choice. |
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| 12:04.45 | DataBeaver | Just wondering if I could remove it since I have SL-C3100. |
| 12:05.21 | DataBeaver | And replace it with the shutils (or whatever it was) package. |
| 12:05.29 | hrw|tv | why remove? install other packages and they will 'hook' correctly and unhook on remove |
| 12:06.51 | DataBeaver | ok |
| 12:07.10 | DataBeaver | Hm, I hided the panel and can't figure out how to bring it back up... |
| 12:08.28 | johnX | have you tried clicking on the couple pixels of it that are still visible? |
| 12:08.41 | DataBeaver | yes |
| 12:08.50 | DataBeaver | Tried single click, double click and click-and-hold |
| 12:09.21 | johnX | hmmm...I just did that on mine to test it...When I hide it, then tap it once it comes back |
| 12:09.27 | DataBeaver | Maybe the touchscreen calibration is off... |
| 12:11.48 | DataBeaver | ok, got it back |
| 12:14.03 | DataBeaver | Is the mesa package enough for OpenGL support? |
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| 12:26.39 | DataBeaver | At least I don't have glxgears yet... |
| 12:27.26 | DataBeaver | But I do appear to have the GL libs. |
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| 12:49.13 | hrw|gone | cu |
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| 13:38.46 | DataBeaver | Why on earth does frozen-bubble depend on stuff like db3 and some opie libs? |
| 13:40.14 | hrw | re |
| 13:41.02 | hrw | frozen-bubble need perl-sdl which need libsdl (you probably has qte one) and perl |
| 13:41.05 | hrw | perl need db |
| 13:41.09 | hrw | simple? |
| 13:42.25 | duxex | does zaurus c3100 have bluetooth? |
| 13:42.29 | hrw | no |
| 13:43.41 | DataBeaver | ok, so I need to get bitbake to use the gpe version of sdl... |
| 13:44.14 | hrw | libsdl-x11 one? |
| 13:44.20 | DataBeaver | Yeah |
| 13:44.39 | DataBeaver | Some PREFERRED directive probably? |
| 13:44.59 | johnX | PREFERRED_PROVIDERS += " virtual/libsdl:libsdl-x11" |
| 13:45.07 | DataBeaver | Thank you |
| 13:45.11 | johnX | np |
| 13:45.28 | johnX | just found out about it yesterday, right here :D |
| 13:45.45 | johnX | that means you have to answer the question tomorrow ;) |
| 13:47.20 | DataBeaver | I will if someone asks |
| 13:47.33 | DataBeaver | How do I change the font for the gpe panel? |
| 13:47.50 | johnX | the panel? |
| 13:48.06 | johnX | you mean the font the menu uses? |
| 13:48.22 | DataBeaver | Yeah |
| 13:48.34 | DataBeaver | It wasn't in the dialog with other fonts |
| 13:48.40 | johnX | let me look... |
| 13:49.03 | hrw | edit theme probably |
| 13:49.06 | hrw | ask on #gpe |
| 13:49.10 | DataBeaver | And I've never used Gnome so I have no idea what file to look at... |
| 13:49.53 | hrw | DataBeaver: panel is from matchbox |
| 13:50.00 | hrw | matchox is pure xlib |
| 13:50.18 | DataBeaver | ok |
| 13:52.00 | DataBeaver | It does use the GTK icons though... |
| 13:52.59 | hrw | so? |
| 13:52.59 | hrw | I use kde icons in opie so opie is kde? |
| 13:54.25 | NAbyss | shadows: gpe image ready |
| 13:55.59 | prh | æhrw |
| 13:56.43 | prh | oops |
| 13:57.07 | prh | hrw: still looking for .4 testers? (I have a 750 and a 3100 :O) |
| 14:15.53 | hrw | prh: each tester is welcome - if I will get time then I will build some 3.5.4-prefinal images even.. |
| 14:19.56 | DataBeaver | Hm, db3 fails to build... |
| 14:21.49 | johnX | DataBeaver: I'm pretty sure I just built it ... but I'm using the "-rjan2006prebreakage" |
| 14:21.59 | DataBeaver | I'm using that too |
| 14:22.10 | DataBeaver | | configure.in:378: error: do not use LIBOBJS directly, use AC_LIBOBJ (see section `AC_LIBOBJ vs LIBOBJS' |
| 14:22.10 | DataBeaver | | If this token and others are legitimate, please use m4_pattern_allow. |
| 14:22.14 | DataBeaver | That's what I get |
| 14:22.41 | DataBeaver | With postbreakage I couldn't build even the gpe-image |
| 14:24.41 | johnX | I really have no idea...I just built it a couple minutes ago |
| 14:25.07 | DataBeaver | db3? What's the exact version? I have 3.2.9-r2 here. |
| 14:26.06 | johnX | exactly the same here |
| 14:26.55 | DataBeaver | md5sum of build/tmp/work/db3-3.2.9-r2/db-3.2.9/dist/configure.in ? |
| 14:26.57 | hrw | hmm. I have to clean some diskspace and do local build |
| 14:27.35 | johnX | a6b9577efb3da92e79ce966b060b2679 |
| 14:27.46 | DataBeaver | 0ef5243e2f8531238750037ca032657f here |
| 14:28.18 | DataBeaver | What's around line 378? |
| 14:28.58 | johnX | #include <fcntl.h> |
| 14:29.00 | johnX | is 378 |
| 14:29.07 | johnX | want me to put it up on pastebin? |
| 14:29.10 | DataBeaver | Yeah |
| 14:29.51 | DataBeaver | Hm, the timestamp for that file is 2001-01-19... |
| 14:31.24 | johnX | at the top? |
| 14:31.41 | johnX | mine says 2001/01/18 |
| 14:32.17 | DataBeaver | Yeah, 2001/01/18 at the top |
| 14:32.33 | DataBeaver | 2001-01-19 19:36 with ls -l though |
| 14:32.58 | johnX | http://pastebin.com/506720 |
| 14:34.27 | DataBeaver | Hm, it seems that I somehow have more patches here... |
| 14:35.12 | DataBeaver | http://pastebin.com/506722 That's what I get the error from |
| 14:35.28 | hrw | you know what? I like that non-core devels also trying to get OZ |
| 14:36.21 | DataBeaver | Well, it's better than the standard OS. |
| 14:36.32 | johnX | I'll second that |
| 14:36.45 | hrw | openzaurus.org has ~4K hits each day |
| 14:37.05 | DataBeaver | Hm, I get absolutely huge fonts in web forms... |
| 14:37.06 | johnX | yeah... me too |
| 14:37.12 | hrw | I do not even remember what was in sharprom on my collie.. |
| 14:37.13 | DataBeaver | Like 20px or so |
| 14:37.36 | johnX | gpe-mini-browser issues would go on GPE's bug tracker, right? |
| 14:37.43 | DataBeaver | So far automatic screen rotation is the only thing I've found missing |
| 14:37.47 | hrw | DataBeaver: browser? |
| 14:37.54 | DataBeaver | johnX: I'd say so, yeah |
| 14:38.03 | DataBeaver | hrw: gpe-mini-browser |
| 14:38.31 | johnX | and when you hit the "zoom in" at the top they grow ginormous just as the rest of the fonts become readable |
| 14:38.31 | DataBeaver | OZ looks better and is faster |
| 14:38.58 | DataBeaver | The form text isn't growing anywhere |
| 14:39.41 | johnX | hmmm |
| 14:39.47 | DataBeaver | Not shrinking either if I zoom out |
| 14:40.15 | hrw | DataBeaver: you have 'absolutely huge fonts in web forms' in gpe-mini-browser? |
| 14:40.39 | DataBeaver | hrw: yup. |
| 14:40.58 | DataBeaver | I can give you a screenshot if I figure how to take one. |
| 14:41.14 | johnX | hrw: is that already a bug somewhere? |
| 14:41.16 | hrw | I'm not using gpe.. |
| 14:41.28 | DataBeaver | I suppose imagemagick or gimp isn't included in the standard installation... |
| 14:41.40 | johnX | nope |
| 14:41.43 | johnX | and not even import |
| 14:41.44 | hrw | DataBeaver: but are in feed |
| 14:41.44 | johnX | hmmm |
| 14:42.02 | hrw | use scap |
| 14:42.49 | johnX | building |
| 14:46.11 | DataBeaver | I need to get some food now... See you later. |
| 14:46.17 | johnX | later |
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| 15:12.33 | CoreDump|home | hi |
| 15:12.38 | johnX | hello |
| 15:13.21 | johnX | I'm actually headed off to bed though |
| 15:13.33 | CoreDump|home | funny, just got up =) |
| 15:13.44 | johnX | funny how timezones work ain't it? |
| 15:13.58 | CoreDump|home | yep, needs some gettings used to |
| 15:14.02 | johnX | though in reality the sun is coming up where I am |
| 15:14.09 | CoreDump|home | =) |
| 15:14.23 | johnX | all of you are on here at times that are very inconvenient to me :P |
| 15:15.06 | CoreDump|home | heh I think I saw your post at ZUG, lol |
| 15:15.33 | CoreDump|home | "had to stay up till 1am for someone to showup" |
| 15:15.38 | johnX | hahaha |
| 15:15.41 | johnX | yeah that was me |
| 15:15.46 | CoreDump|home | =) |
| 15:15.59 | johnX | but the bug got fixed in like 5 minutes flat once someone showed up |
| 15:16.20 | hrw|food | ~ugt |
| 15:16.21 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, ugt is Universial Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. |
| 15:16.26 | CoreDump|home | well, that stinks heh |
| 15:16.36 | CoreDump|home | ~paise ugt |
| 15:16.46 | hrw|food | ~praise ugt |
| 15:16.47 | ibot | All hail ugt! |
| 15:16.53 | johnX | that's awesome |
| 15:17.08 | CoreDump|home | I love ugt |
| 15:18.19 | johnX | anyways, I'm really off to bed, but I leave you with one of those "a picture is worth a thousand word bug-report" (already submitted to the GPE folks): http://handhelds.org/scap/port.11340.png |
| 15:18.23 | johnX | 'night |
| 15:18.28 | hrw|food | n8 johnX |
| 15:18.49 | hrw|food | nice pic ;) |
| 15:39.10 | DataBeaver | Heh, the Zaurus screenshot looks huge when viewed on a normal display |
| 15:39.16 | hrw | ;) |
| 15:41.07 | CoreDump|home | indeed |
| 15:41.30 | CoreDump|home | to bad opies screenshotapplet still doesn't work on Akita... |
| 15:42.17 | DataBeaver | Hm, I'm suddenly getting all kinds of weird errors from bitbake... |
| 15:43.43 | raduga | what sort of weirdity? |
| 15:44.06 | hrw | CoreDump|home: in which way it does not work? |
| 15:44.32 | CoreDump|home | screenshots uploaded to hh.org are "distorted" |
| 15:45.07 | CoreDump|home | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.304.png <- took that screeny yesterday |
| 15:45.08 | hrw | tried to do scap from shell? |
| 15:45.25 | CoreDump|home | yep, the script works fine after emailing hh.org =) |
| 15:45.34 | CoreDump|home | just the applet is b0rked |
| 15:45.38 | DataBeaver | http://pastebin.com/506780 |
| 15:49.57 | DataBeaver | It would seem like something has corrupted some of the .bb files, but I can't figure what... |
| 15:56.14 | raduga | databeaver: can you give an example of the error you're seeing? |
| 15:56.14 | raduga | and in what file? |
| 15:56.14 | DataBeaver | raguda: I just put the lot into pastebin. |
| 15:56.14 | DataBeaver | See7 lines above. |
| 15:56.14 | DataBeaver | s/See7/See 7/ |
| 15:56.14 | hrw | too old bitbake? |
| 15:56.14 | DataBeaver | I got it on Friday from svn |
| 15:56.40 | DataBeaver | Nice bot, but pretty slow. |
| 15:58.04 | DataBeaver | Great... I got the gpe calendar to crash. |
| 16:00.45 | CoreDump|home | that's better than me. I don't even get GPE to compile ATM =) |
| 16:01.03 | hrw | libmimedir? |
| 16:01.08 | CoreDump|home | yep |
| 16:01.33 | CoreDump|home | I know there's a fix, but I'm too lazy to do it right now |
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| 16:48.36 | DataBeaver | any ideas how to get bitbake working again without a lengthy rebuild of everything? |
| 16:49.45 | CoreDump|home | dunno sry |
| 16:52.32 | DataBeaver | Maybe it would be enough to just clear the cache... |
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| 17:02.48 | DataBeaver | Yeah, it was enough. |
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| 17:07.32 | alan|laptop | morning all |
| 17:07.38 | hrw | hi alan |
| 17:07.43 | alan|laptop | hi hrw |
| 17:07.54 | CoreDump|home | hi alan|laptop |
| 17:07.58 | alan|laptop | having a good sunday ? |
| 17:08.02 | alan|laptop | yop CoreDump|home |
| 17:08.20 | CoreDump|home | +mhentges@oe-collie-hentges:~/OpenEmbedded >rm -rf bitbake.delme/ sources.delme/ |
| 17:08.21 | CoreDump|home | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:08.27 | CoreDump|home | ^^^ takes ages wtf |
| 17:08.32 | DataBeaver | Problem... alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device |
| 17:08.42 | alan|laptop | DataBeaver: as root ? |
| 17:08.54 | CoreDump|home | verify that your driver is loaded |
| 17:09.25 | DataBeaver | alan: Good point... |
| 17:09.28 | alan|laptop | i bumped for half an hour on this problem... then i reallized i was not root... |
| 17:09.35 | DataBeaver | Yeah, works as root |
| 17:09.48 | DataBeaver | I'm so used to being in the audio group on my desktop machines |
| 17:09.54 | alan|laptop | DataBeaver: good to see i can prevent people from doing the same mistakes as mine |
| 17:09.57 | alan|laptop | ^^ |
| 17:10.38 | alan|laptop | but hey i've not been able to get a good sound... |
| 17:10.49 | DataBeaver | Err, there's a whole truckload of controls... |
| 17:10.58 | alan|laptop | DataBeaver: what model ? |
| 17:11.00 | hrw | there will be small amount of them |
| 17:11.04 | DataBeaver | SL-C3100 |
| 17:11.25 | alan|laptop | DataBeaver: did you have a look at openzaurus.org ? |
| 17:11.26 | DataBeaver | hrw: Maybe 40-50... Do you call that a "small amount"? |
| 17:11.43 | hrw | 40-50? wow.. |
| 17:11.50 | DataBeaver | alan: What part specifically? |
| 17:11.50 | hrw | on c760 its <20 |
| 17:12.41 | alan|laptop | DataBeaver: infos about 2.6 kernel, section Alsa sound |
| 17:12.46 | DataBeaver | Exactly 70 controls, I counted |
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| 17:17.31 | DataBeaver | Is there any easy way to set up a package feed from my computer? |
| 17:18.09 | CoreDump|home | surem If you have a webserver running it's easy |
| 17:18.15 | DataBeaver | Yeah, I have |
| 17:18.52 | CoreDump|home | well, make sure "Packages" is up to date then copy tmp/deplay/ipk into the server root |
| 17:20.22 | DataBeaver | There's a chance that bitbake won't update it? |
| 17:20.46 | DataBeaver | Or what do you mean by making sure it's up to date? |
| 17:20.50 | CoreDump|home | well, Packages is normally only written / updated on do_rootfs |
| 17:21.11 | CoreDump|home | so, after you've compiled some sort of image, it's up to date |
| 17:21.18 | alan|laptop | DataBeaver: or add a line to your /etc/ipkg.conf : "src/gz MyFeed http://myfeed.url/" |
| 17:21.24 | CoreDump|home | there is however a bitbake target to do that for you IIRC |
| 17:21.40 | alan|laptop | to uptade Pakage index, use bitbake package-index |
| 17:21.48 | DataBeaver | ok |
| 17:21.53 | CoreDump|home | that's the one =) |
| 17:24.11 | alan|laptop | DataBeaver: if you copy your feed to your SD card, in /etc/ipkg.conf, add "src/gz CardFeed file:///media/<"card"_or_"cf">/" |
| 17:24.46 | alan|laptop | DataBeaver: can be usefull some times, but painfull to write your entire feed to the card... |
| 17:25.42 | DataBeaver | k |
| 17:26.08 | CoreDump|home | is anyone speakingspanish here? I wonder what that means: Usando La Hentges... |
| 17:26.32 | DataBeaver | I suppose I can remove gpe-feed.conf and x11-feed.conf? |
| 17:27.08 | CoreDump|home | on self-compiled snapshots:of course |
| 17:53.11 | DataBeaver | Err... I get frozen-bubble with tab completion, but then I get "sh: frozen-bubble: not found"? |
| 17:53.20 | DataBeaver | Something funny going on with path... |
| 17:54.01 | DataBeaver | It is on path... |
| 17:54.05 | DataBeaver | *in |
| 17:55.49 | DataBeaver | logout isn't working? |
| 17:58.06 | alan|laptop | CoreDump|home: it means ''using Hentges distrib" |
| 17:58.17 | CoreDump|home | ah thanks |
| 17:58.29 | alan|laptop | your welcome |
| 17:59.31 | alan|laptop | i can translate from french, spanish or italian, but i'm bad at speaking them (well, except french...^^ ) |
| 18:00.04 | alan|laptop | maybe someday i'll learn Esperanto |
| 18:00.14 | CoreDump|home | =) |
| 18:00.20 | alan|laptop | Mandriva is availiable in esperanto... ^^ |
| 18:00.41 | alan|laptop | some people definitely have too much free time... |
| 18:01.11 | hrw | cu |
| 18:03.12 | alan|laptop | cu hrw|gone |
| 18:03.32 | DataBeaver | Hm, X is broken somehow... |
| 18:04.17 | alan|laptop | Oo ? |
| 18:04.41 | DataBeaver | The cursor flashes and the display periodically goes into some sort of "uncontrolled" mode... Otherwise it's black. |
| 18:05.02 | alan|laptop | mmm... can you do a df in console ? |
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| 18:05.29 | DataBeaver | Sure, if you tell me how to get into console... Fn+left/right isn't working |
| 18:05.51 | alan|laptop | crtl+alt+ back several times |
| 18:06.06 | alan|laptop | then X will stop restarting |
| 18:06.45 | DataBeaver | k, got the console |
| 18:06.59 | alan|laptop | is /home full ? |
| 18:07.05 | DataBeaver | Nope |
| 18:07.33 | alan|laptop | most of the time, i have this error because of full partition... |
| 18:07.44 | alan|laptop | gpe or opie ? |
| 18:07.49 | DataBeaver | Yeah, that has caused some strangeness on my desktop systems too... |
| 18:07.51 | DataBeaver | gpe |
| 18:08.06 | alan|laptop | home built, huh ? |
| 18:08.38 | DataBeaver | Yup |
| 18:08.50 | DataBeaver | Hm, Xfbdev does work when run directly from console... |
| 18:09.21 | alan|laptop | mmm... i know my gpe builds acted strangely untill Xora told me to add a line "PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/libsdl = "libsdl-x11" in my local.conf |
| 18:09.32 | alan|laptop | did you have this line ? |
| 18:09.41 | DataBeaver | Yes |
| 18:10.03 | DataBeaver | Or well, not exactly that... |
| 18:10.03 | alan|laptop | then i don't know... |
| 18:10.07 | alan|laptop | ha ? |
| 18:10.21 | DataBeaver | PREFERRED_PROVIDERS += " virtual/libsdl:libsdl-x11" |
| 18:10.44 | alan|laptop | it's not the same |
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| 18:11.17 | alan|laptop | my gpe images are much faster now i have this line... |
| 18:11.26 | alan|laptop | i really don't know why |
| 18:11.44 | alan|laptop | as it should only be related to sdl softwares... |
| 18:12.35 | DataBeaver | hm... |
| 18:15.02 | alan|laptop | do you guys know if there is a comic reader app for zaurus ? |
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| 18:32.16 | DataBeaver | Damn... Just what's b0rked here... |
| 18:33.21 | DataBeaver | Or well, I'm pretty sure I know gpe-dm is b0rked, but how... |
| 18:37.16 | DataBeaver | Apparently the libxext6 package was screwed up somehow. |
| 18:38.10 | DataBeaver | Now everything seems to be working again. |
| 18:40.33 | shadows | alan|laptop: do you have a bug report filed against the 3.5.4 branch? |
| 18:43.26 | shadows | NAbyss: super! |
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| 18:44.25 | DataBeaver | Isn't ipkg supposed to handle dependencies? |
| 18:46.00 | alan|laptop | shadows: nope... |
| 18:46.18 | alan|laptop | DataBeaver: it should... |
| 18:46.42 | DataBeaver | Then the frozen-bubble package seems to be broken. |
| 18:46.59 | DataBeaver | ipkg info frozen-bubble shows no dependencies at all. |
| 18:47.02 | alan|laptop | DataBeaver: mmm... sdl app... |
| 18:47.28 | alan|laptop | DataBeaver: did you update your package index |
| 18:47.30 | alan|laptop | .? |
| 18:47.31 | shadows | alan|laptop: it would probably help to have a patch committed that adds that x11 dependency line you speak of to the build conf |
| 18:47.41 | DataBeaver | Yes |
| 18:47.49 | DataBeaver | openssh does seem to have dependencies |
| 18:48.18 | alan|laptop | shadows: that is right. I'll write a bug repport asap |
| 18:50.54 | DataBeaver | Hm, seems like a 150M root partition will be too small... |
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| 19:12.29 | DataBeaver | "Can't locate SDL.pm in @INC" even though sdl-perl is installed? |
| 19:16.30 | andrewy | does anyone know where I can get a collie/sl5500 ipk for gpe-mini-browser ? |
| 19:36.34 | DataBeaver | I can't get any sound from my Zaurus, even though I unmuted left and right mixer... |
| 19:37.27 | hrw|tv | DataBeaver: started alsamixer? |
| 19:37.52 | DataBeaver | I used alsamixer to unmute them |
| 19:39.06 | hrw|tv | 'Left/Right Playback ZC' unmute |
| 19:39.34 | hrw|tv | Output Mixer HiFi Playback Switch unmute |
| 19:39.52 | DataBeaver | Don't have either of those |
| 19:40.42 | DataBeaver | Hm, there was this "Left mixer Right playback Switch" which helped... |
| 19:42.36 | DataBeaver | Next problem... Why won't beep-media-player start? |
| 19:42.54 | hrw|tv | cant help |
| 19:43.21 | hrw|tv | bmp guys made it finally running on 16bit screen? it needed 24bit before |
| 19:43.38 | DataBeaver | Well, there's a package of it in OE... |
| 19:44.22 | DataBeaver | Do you know what package contains glxgears? |
| 19:45.26 | hrw|tv | DataBeaver: OE is not only for PDA targets |
| 19:45.41 | DataBeaver | ok |
| 19:45.46 | hrw|tv | people make PVR, thinclients and other x86 builds |
| 19:47.04 | DataBeaver | I guess playing a 640x480 video stream isn't supposed to be too fast? |
| 19:47.47 | hrw|tv | on? |
| 19:48.03 | DataBeaver | On Zaurus SL-C3100 |
| 19:49.19 | hrw|tv | dont know - never saw that device |
| 19:50.58 | shadows | i don't think hw accel for the pxa270 chipset is polished yet for borzai |
| 19:51.39 | shadows | :( my host machine's usb SD card reader is not being recognized |
| 19:52.35 | DataBeaver | You're saying that the performance would improve in the (near) future? |
| 19:53.39 | hrw|tv | ok. time to go |
| 19:53.42 | hrw|tv | cu |
| 19:53.56 | DataBeaver | See you hrw |
| 19:54.02 | hrw|gone | I;m going to 'fix' my wifi card |
| 20:10.51 | hrw | re |
| 20:11.29 | hrw | added some paper/plastic inside card cover and it connect in 1st attempt |
| 20:11.32 | hrw | yes! |
| 20:11.35 | shadows | hrw: i'm with c3000 hardware (spitz) and am testing a 3.5.4 branch image built by NAbyss |
| 20:11.52 | hrw | shadows: 2.4.20? |
| 20:11.55 | shadows | yes |
| 20:12.00 | hrw | coool |
| 20:12.09 | shadows | it's been so long, i need to read docs to remember how to flash image |
| 20:12.10 | shadows | :) |
| 20:12.16 | hrw | :) |
| 20:12.37 | hrw | opie or gpe? |
| 20:12.54 | shadows | i will test both images |
| 20:12.59 | hrw | grat |
| 20:13.06 | DataBeaver | Is there any way I can see which package provides a certain file without building that package? |
| 20:13.08 | shadows | i prefer gpe though, it will be the focus of my testing |
| 20:13.17 | hrw | ok |
| 20:13.21 | hrw | brb |
| 20:14.43 | hrw | re |
| 20:14.49 | hrw | had to start opie |
| 20:17.48 | shadows | hrw: do you know, is an alternate partioning scheme supported? I have discussed with JustinP a potentially better scheme, where on the c3k models the last partition (fat32) is resized down, and a new partition (ext2/3) added at the end of hard disk for root fs |
| 20:18.08 | shadows | that way c3k owners can preserve original japanese info |
| 20:20.33 | shadows | my table looks like: hda: hda1 hda2 hda3 hda4 < hda5 hda6 > |
| 20:21.07 | katossi | anyone using a gps with a zaurus? |
| 20:21.15 | shadows | katossi: i may be soon :) |
| 20:21.43 | katossi | shadows: what kind? usb? cf? |
| 20:21.54 | shadows | usb/bt |
| 20:22.02 | shadows | it's an Holux GPSlim235 |
| 20:22.12 | shadows | i mean, GPSlim236, NOT 235 |
| 20:22.33 | hrw | cu |
| 20:23.13 | katossi | shadows: usb/bt? |
| 20:24.52 | shadows | usb and bluetooth |
| 20:24.54 | shadows | it does both |
| 20:25.13 | shadows | the USB requires a special serial converter cable, it will not function with data if you use a standard USB cable |
| 20:25.37 | shadows | i have verified both bluetooth and USB serial cable functions with linux |
| 20:25.50 | shadows | it's a neat unit too, it gets 3 satellite fixes even indoors |
| 20:26.15 | katossi | cool |
| 20:26.54 | shadows | i never could find a proper connector to use the external antenna option |
| 20:27.04 | shadows | i bought a patch antenna, but the connector was the wrong type |
| 20:29.25 | katossi | anyone can try to compile a openzaurus-unstable ? |
| 20:29.40 | shadows | yeah |
| 20:29.42 | shadows | anyone can |
| 20:29.53 | katossi | I'm getting an error compiling one for my akita |
| 20:29.56 | shadows | directions are on a wiki-like page um... i always forget the URL |
| 20:29.58 | shadows | oh okay |
| 20:30.18 | katossi | I get an error patching glibc |
| 20:30.40 | katossi | but I want to know I'm not the only one getting it before I report a bug |
| 20:30.49 | aaaweez | anyone know offhand if it is possible to play doom on a clamshell zaurus in a "normal" orientation? ie, with clamshell open in a laptop like configuration, the screen would be viewable without having to turn the screen sideways... |
| 20:33.58 | CoreDump|home | yep, works here |
| 20:34.18 | CoreDump|home | SDL is a little bit slowfor fullscreen tho |
| 20:34.30 | andrewy | is gpe's batter power indicator inaccurate, or does gpe/oz use much more power than the sharp rom? |
| 20:35.22 | CoreDump|home | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.22002.png |
| 20:35.41 | shadows | CoreDump|home: i'm trying to ask if anyone on the OZ dev team is familiar with an alternative partitioning scheme for the zaurus c3000 model, where the fat32 partition is resized down and the 4th partition is made extended, with rootfs and swapfs inside |
| 20:36.02 | shadows | CoreDump|home: i think JustinP was working on this, does it seem familiar? |
| 20:36.22 | CoreDump|home | doesn't ring a bell sorry |
| 20:36.26 | shadows | 'kay |
| 20:36.50 | CoreDump|home | hacking updater.sh will be a bitch heh |
| 20:36.56 | shadows | i don't have a standard partitioning scheme today, and am trying to help submit bug reports against the 3.5.4 branch |
| 20:38.23 | CoreDump|home | well, it coul be as "easy" as hacking /sbin/init.d to pivot_root into the correct partition |
| 20:38.55 | shadows | should i restore my Z and then do the bug testing? |
| 20:39.08 | DataBeaver | No package of zsnes? |
| 20:39.12 | shadows | i like the setup i have, it lets me keep the original jap rom |
| 20:39.53 | CoreDump|home | shadows: dualbooting with sharp is _very_ likely to fail due to the OZ kernel. |
| 20:40.10 | shadows | i meant, to keep a backup of the info |
| 20:40.16 | CoreDump|home | ah |
| 20:40.16 | shadows | so the only thing i have to replace is the kernel |
| 20:40.29 | shadows | and leave the original hard disk info alone |
| 20:40.39 | CoreDump|home | yep |
| 20:40.49 | shadows | that way i would be having more space for rootfs, and not mess with original japanese rom |
| 20:41.03 | shadows | i'm confused by the documentation for OZ about what to do |
| 20:41.19 | shadows | it says that it will pivot to the first partition hda1 for root |
| 20:41.33 | CoreDump|home | ah wait, you can't keep the ROM to make that work. |
| 20:41.34 | shadows | what controls that? the kernel? |
| 20:41.48 | CoreDump|home | you may keepthe sharp HDD partitions but not the ROM |
| 20:41.52 | DataBeaver | shadows: initrd |
| 20:41.56 | shadows | ohhh yes that's what i meant |
| 20:42.01 | shadows | okay so the initrd controls that |
| 20:42.04 | CoreDump|home | /sbin/init does the pivot_root |
| 20:42.28 | shadows | hm |
| 20:42.33 | DataBeaver | Yeah, and that's on initrd or whatever initial rootfs there is |
| 20:42.36 | shadows | is that part of updater.sh? |
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| 20:42.56 | CoreDump|home | well, it is on the flash to my knowledge |
| 20:43.01 | shadows | i don't see an initrd.bin |
| 20:43.03 | shadows | hm |
| 20:43.09 | shadows | maybe NAbyss did not build one for me |
| 20:43.13 | DataBeaver | Might be integrated to zImage.bini or something? |
| 20:43.22 | DataBeaver | s/bini/bin/ |
| 20:43.35 | shadows | oh |
| 20:43.36 | shadows | http://zaurus.tucuxi.org/c3000/images/ |
| 20:44.17 | shadows | this was built from the 3.5.4fam083 branch |
| 20:44.26 | shadows | NAbyss: ping |
| 20:44.37 | shadows | i'm wondering, where the heck did initrd.bin go |
| 20:44.48 | CoreDump|home | looks like they don't touch the flash at all. |
| 20:45.18 | CoreDump|home | how on earth are they booting these things nowadays |
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| 20:45.29 | shadows | that would explain why my Z is still booting from hda6 |
| 20:45.44 | shadows | the initrd.bin is not updated |
| 20:45.55 | shadows | and i still have the initrd.bin hacked by JustinP to boot from hda6 |
| 20:45.56 | shadows | huh |
| 20:46.13 | shadows | time for work though |
| 20:46.14 | shadows | later |
| 20:46.23 | CoreDump|home | donnu how they can boot it w/o initrd.bin |
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| 21:11.39 | NAbyss | shadows: initrd.bin? rename the appropriate (opie|gpe)-....img |
| 21:13.58 | NAbyss | That's my experience with the 3100 at least |
| 21:15.15 | NAbyss | CoreDump|bbl: well, my Z boots from the kernel in the mtd, and mounts /dev/hdaX as root |
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| 21:27.43 | DataBeaver | Has anyone played frozen-bubble on Zaurus? |
| 21:28.43 | DataBeaver | After finally getting all dependencies installed and perl include path corrected, I got "Illegal instruction" |
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| 22:09.08 | DataBeaver | Is the rxvt in OZ supposed to support utf-8? |
| 22:14.38 | CoreDump|home | time to flash the C1000 |
| 22:15.08 | katossi | CoreDump|home: did you just compile an image? |
| 22:15.44 | CoreDump|home | an opie image, yes |
| 22:16.15 | katossi | what DISTRO did you use? openzaurus-unstable? |
| 22:16.38 | katossi | I'm trying to compile an image but pathcing glibc package fails |
| 22:16.46 | CoreDump|home | no, I'm compiling from the 3.5.4 branch using openzaurus-3.5.4.conf |
| 22:17.09 | CoreDump|home | but this morning I've compiled a .dev image with openzaurus-unstable |
| 22:17.22 | CoreDump|home | well, no problems here |
| 22:18.03 | katossi | could be my problem |
| 22:19.17 | katossi | anyone knows what this could be? ERROR: EOL while scanning single-quoted string (line 1) while parsing /home/colbedded/stuff/org.openembedded.dev/packages/gnome/gconf-dbus_svn.bb |
| 22:19.41 | CoreDump|home | ok, DITRO wasn't set to -unstable like I thought. |
| 22:20.48 | katossi | ok, then maybe it's not just me |
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| 22:22.12 | kendhome | http://openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.3/ <--- uh |
| 22:22.15 | kendhome | where is eveyrthing??? |
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| 22:26.41 | CoreDump|home | http://oz.hentges.net/mirror/ |
| 22:28.04 | kendhome | thanks |
| 22:28.07 | kendhome | now... hrm |
| 22:28.25 | CoreDump|home | np |
| 22:28.31 | kendhome | it has no upgrades/collie/ folder, though :( :( |
| 22:28.34 | kendhome | that's what i'm looking for |
| 22:28.49 | CoreDump|home | right |
| 22:29.25 | kendhome | is that an out-dated idea? :) |
| 22:29.37 | kendhome | i'm seeing this: http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/2005/07/27/howto-get-r21-kernel-on-collie/ |
| 22:29.48 | kendhome | which was from july 2005 (a few months more recent than what's at that mirror) |
| 22:30.02 | CoreDump|home | no, I just never thought backing that up would make sense |
| 22:30.34 | kendhome | oh, heh, damn |
| 22:30.59 | CoreDump|home | it will be back, dont worry |
| 22:31.04 | kendhome | heh, ok |
| 22:31.07 | kendhome | i tried OZ last night |
| 22:31.12 | kendhome | i was impressed with the new stuff |
| 22:31.19 | kendhome | but had a HELL of a time getting things to install :( :( |
| 22:31.26 | CoreDump|home | hah |
| 22:31.28 | kendhome | i was going with oz.pdai.org, since openzaurus.org was lacking... things |
| 22:31.39 | kendhome | was up til 7am screwing around with it |
| 22:31.44 | kendhome | i'm going to reflash and try _again_ :) |
| 22:32.10 | CoreDump|home | =) |
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| 22:39.56 | kendhome | flashing |
| 22:40.05 | kendhome | rather, done flashing, now reinstalling OZ |
| 22:40.17 | kendhome | i just want something that works reliably again :( |
| 22:41.15 | kendhome | so if one moves from OPIE back to console, how does one get back |
| 22:41.37 | NAbyss | kendhome: chvt 2 |
| 22:41.45 | kendhome | coo |
| 22:41.46 | kendhome | thx |
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| 23:01.07 | kendhome | ugh |
| 23:01.08 | kendhome | errors |
| 23:01.13 | kendhome | i must've gotten the URLs wrong >:^P |
| 23:01.23 | kendhome | i dislike how unresponsive the package tool gets |
| 23:01.31 | kendhome | and how frozen the Z gets while the package tool is working :^( |
| 23:02.43 | kendhome | agh... extra / in "http:// |
| 23:02.44 | kendhome | grr |
| 23:06.07 | kendhome | finally, i think i got all the URLs in there correctly >:^P |
| 23:06.54 | CoreDump|home | heh |
| 23:07.28 | kendhome | when i tried last night, it gave me some dep. error, i think |
| 23:07.39 | kendhome | kpacman sigsegv'd when i'd go to launch it |
| 23:08.29 | kendhome | ok, yeah, same error |
| 23:08.40 | kendhome | konq wants "libqte2 (>= 2.3.10-snapshot-20050131)" |
| 23:09.11 | katossi | anyone knows what is wrong with the vanille server? |
| 23:09.19 | kendhome | plus i get a whole ton of "unsatisfied recommendation for kernel-*" errors |
| 23:12.10 | kendhome | nothing :^/ |
| 23:12.18 | CoreDump|home | ugh don't do that |
| 23:12.29 | kendhome | except very high CPU usage now, and the package mgr isn't responding (again) :^P |
| 23:13.05 | CoreDump|home | because ipkg-upgrade fills your / to 100% |
| 23:13.13 | kendhome | oh |
| 23:13.17 | kendhome | well that's nice of it to warn me :^P |
| 23:13.25 | kendhome | shall i kill it, then? :^/ |
| 23:13.47 | kendhome | also, any idea on that konqueror-embedded requirement issue? |
| 23:14.08 | CoreDump|home | http://www.hentges.net/misc/openzaurus/oz3.5.3-opie1.2.0.shtml <- might wanna try this ROM |
| 23:14.09 | kendhome | i stil have ~900K free |
| 23:14.24 | kendhome | what's the diff? |
| 23:14.28 | kendhome | (that free is on /, btw) |
| 23:14.29 | CoreDump|home | kendhome: konq is fixed in3.5.4 |
| 23:14.46 | kendhome | oh, so it's simply broken in 3.5.3? |
| 23:14.55 | CoreDump|home | read the howto / faq and you'll know |
| 23:15.01 | CoreDump|home | yes |
| 23:15.09 | kendhome | err, which howto? :) |
| 23:15.17 | kendhome | on your site? |
| 23:15.26 | CoreDump|home | "If you haven't already done so, please read the CardFS HowTo |
| 23:15.26 | CoreDump|home | and the CardFS feature list. |
| 23:15.26 | CoreDump|home | " |
| 23:17.16 | kendhome | well shit! |
| 23:17.24 | kendhome | why didn't anyone tell me about this last night!? :) |
| 23:17.41 | CoreDump|home | =) |
| 23:20.14 | kendhome | hrm, i wonder which zImage i want |
| 23:20.14 | CoreDump|home | requires a 64MB SD card tho |
| 23:20.24 | kendhome | yeah, i have that ;) |
| 23:20.31 | kendhome | would it be fine to go with 64/0? |
| 23:20.36 | kendhome | or should i do, like, 48/16? |
| 23:20.38 | CoreDump|home | 64-0 probably |
| 23:21.20 | kendhome | so there are three files |
| 23:21.22 | kendhome | i am confused ;) |
| 23:21.46 | kendhome | i guess i just need the zImage and .bin |
| 23:22.02 | CoreDump|home | http://www.hentges.net/misc/openzaurus/docs/cardfs_howto.shtml#installation |
| 23:22.31 | kendhome | aww crap, kget just bailed >:^( |
| 23:23.05 | kendhome | what's the .tar.gz? |
| 23:23.26 | CoreDump|home | meh |
| 23:23.37 | CoreDump|home | just read the link i posted |
| 23:23.53 | CoreDump|home | <- headache |
| 23:24.16 | kendhome | sorry |
| 23:24.37 | kendhome | oh oh oh |
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| 23:36.35 | kendhome | booting! |
| 23:39.15 | kendhome | installing cardfs |
| 23:39.16 | kendhome | sweet :) |
| 23:40.51 | kendhome | i should start doing laundry before it becomes 7am again ;) |
| 23:41.02 | kendhome | (it's only 3:45pm, but based on last night, i can spend _forever_ screwing with this) |
| 23:41.14 | kendhome | thanks for the help, CoreDump|home |
| 23:41.53 | CoreDump|home | you're welcome =) |
| 23:42.43 | CoreDump|home | well, it's close to 1am here heh |
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| 23:52.50 | kendhome | hrm |
| 23:52.58 | kendhome | "unable to create startup files, please free some space" |
| 23:53.04 | kendhome | (after setting the clock) |
| 23:54.45 | kendhome | i just hit Finish to jump into the main Opie UI |
| 23:54.53 | kendhome | i see 1404KB free on /dev/root (/) |
| 23:55.04 | kendhome | 1124KB free on /media/card |
| 23:55.14 | kendhome | tons (96MB) on CF |
| 23:55.23 | kendhome | and 1124KB free on /home/root (SD card) |
| 23:55.37 | kendhome | (so, same as /media/card ;) ) |
| 23:59.01 | kendhome | hrm |
| 23:59.12 | kendhome | i think it's time to reboot outside the GUI to poke around the SD card's FS |
| 23:59.29 | kendhome | or, rather, terminate Opie'll work ;) |
