00:00.20 | shadows | yeah i still find myself when very drunk typing in things like tar yxvf foo.tbz2 |
00:00.47 | CoreDump|home | =) |
00:01.13 | CoreDump|home | I try to avoid (my) computers at any cost when I'm drunk |
00:01.18 | shadows | good policy |
00:01.32 | CoreDump|home | trashed my rootfs once because of that |
00:01.37 | shadows | "can you count the number of rootfs accidents..." |
00:01.42 | shadows | "no, i was drunk, duh!" |
00:01.43 | CoreDump|home | hehe |
00:02.17 | shadows | i like using the Z's recovery system to do the hdimage1.tgz clobbing |
00:02.27 | shadows | it's not scary at all |
00:02.29 | CoreDump|home | chown-R user.user / blahh it was |
00:02.36 | shadows | gah hahaha |
00:02.44 | CoreDump|home | =) |
00:03.11 | shadows | ask for help about that in 2002's #debian if you want a good time |
00:03.23 | CoreDump|home | lol |
00:03.33 | CoreDump|home | 2006 #debian still sucks |
00:03.54 | CoreDump|home | do you have any idea how many things stop working after that? =) |
00:04.13 | shadows | yes, yes i do |
00:04.18 | CoreDump|home | hehehe |
00:04.59 | shadows | i also remember distinctly the sinking feeling when i figured out how i might check what had happened, after a user told me to check the permissions on /dev/zero |
00:05.13 | CoreDump|home | um lol? |
00:05.21 | shadows | and then my reaction after complying with his/her directions to check other files permissions |
00:05.30 | shadows | "oh my god, they're all the same. i've been hacked" |
00:05.33 | shadows | then, no wait |
00:05.36 | shadows | i was drinking |
00:05.36 | CoreDump|home | that hurts lol |
00:05.37 | shadows | ... |
00:05.38 | shadows | oh |
00:05.42 | CoreDump|home | =) |
00:06.20 | shadows | the other fun one was rm -fr / home/myusername |
00:06.34 | CoreDump|home | that's a classic |
00:06.51 | shadows | after all said and done, that keyboard was given a beating it would not survive |
00:07.02 | CoreDump|home | heh |
00:09.12 | shadows | CoreDump|home: screen protectors for zaurii, do you use them |
00:09.16 | CoreDump|home | nope |
00:09.43 | shadows | how's the WPA support for OPIE |
00:09.44 | CoreDump|home | but I don't carry them around with me all day |
00:09.58 | CoreDump|home | there's wpa-suplicant in the feed |
00:10.03 | shadows | oh |
00:10.09 | CoreDump|home | had it working on my collie once |
00:10.12 | shadows | it's not in with the image? |
00:10.16 | CoreDump|home | no |
00:10.26 | shadows | o_O |
00:10.30 | CoreDump|home | well, I _think_ no |
00:11.18 | shadows | w/o that there's no working method for me to get the Z online, the USB network gadget thing doesn't quite work |
00:11.25 | shadows | at least not with my host box |
00:12.00 | CoreDump|home | I'll see if it compiles, hold on |
00:13.34 | shadows | okay hmm CityTime still segfaults |
00:13.37 | shadows | no surprises there |
00:14.16 | CoreDump|home | sorry wpa-sup is broken atm |
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00:15.11 | CoreDump|home | anyways, I'm going to apm -s myself now (aka bedtime). was nice talking to you |
00:15.24 | CoreDump|home | n8 shadows, n8 all |
00:16.23 | shadows | yep |
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00:36.30 | shadows | hey um, i don't know if everyone is aware of this or not, but serialio offers an USB A mini OTG cable to USB A Female connector for ten bucks usd |
00:36.46 | shadows | which beats the pants off the $20 I paid for an GoldX cable |
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01:31.11 | shadows | :/ |
01:31.15 | shadows | no pl2303 driver |
01:31.16 | shadows | hmm |
01:50.29 | shadows | oh okay |
01:50.47 | shadows | the one from Johnathan's site works |
01:51.03 | shadows | s/ohnath/onath/ |
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02:16.03 | shadows | heylo |
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04:41.07 | |matt| | Hello all, I recently tried 3.5.3/opie on my newly aquired collie and I found that the recorder was broken. Googled. Changed some settings but no joy. |
04:41.31 | |matt| | This seems to be a known problem, is there anything going on that suggests this will/is fixed? |
04:41.54 | |matt| | opierec is the actual program, I guess. |
04:43.29 | shadows | where the heck is the ALT key on spitz |
04:43.56 | shadows | |matt|: development is on 3.5.4, readying it for release |
04:44.00 | shadows | focus there :) |
04:44.27 | |matt| | I looked at the rc but didn |
04:44.30 | |matt| | install |
04:44.36 | shadows | oh, not the rc |
04:44.45 | shadows | the oz 3.5.4 fam083 branch |
04:44.57 | |matt| | from CVS? |
04:44.59 | shadows | erm... i forget the URL |
04:45.01 | shadows | yes |
04:45.11 | shadows | from the source repository |
04:45.18 | |matt| | I have yet to do any cross compiling... |
04:45.31 | shadows | requires an x86 box. it's pretty straight forward to do |
04:45.38 | shadows | it bootstraps a compiler to use |
04:46.06 | |matt| | I have 14 of those to use but I must admit I am not looking forward to it. |
04:46.21 | shadows | 14 of what? |
04:46.26 | |matt| | x86's |
04:46.33 | shadows | oh |
04:46.40 | shadows | what's your project |
04:47.00 | |matt| | I run a little render farm for my small animation company. |
04:47.18 | |matt| | I recently got a collie, and would like to make best use of it. |
04:47.26 | |matt| | It is really cool. |
04:47.41 | shadows | i've got a spitz |
04:47.56 | |matt| | How is the compatibility between OZ and the sharp stuff? |
04:48.03 | shadows | limited |
04:48.11 | |matt| | ohh goody. |
04:48.12 | shadows | there's a compat lib, it works sometimes |
04:48.25 | shadows | most of the kernel development is with 2.6 kernel |
04:48.40 | shadows | which is a rewrite of the spaghetti embeddix lineo code |
04:49.05 | shadows | seriously, i have not seen such yucky code as is in the embeddix 2.4.20 lineo kernel in a long time |
04:49.08 | shadows | many years |
04:49.59 | shadows | RP did a rewrite of much the code to make 2.6 kernel function |
04:50.06 | shadows | he's about 97% there for most devices |
04:50.18 | shadows | i've tried the 2.6 kernel result on my spitz, it works great |
04:50.26 | |matt| | Well, I love to see improvements, but I really want to see a stable system for everyday use. |
04:50.31 | shadows | ah, yeah |
04:50.37 | |matt| | Thats good to hear. |
04:50.41 | shadows | opie-image is closest, IMO |
04:50.44 | shadows | i'm a GPE fan |
04:50.53 | |matt| | That was my next question. |
04:51.02 | |matt| | Opie looks good. |
04:51.11 | |matt| | but so does GPE. |
04:51.22 | shadows | when the Enlightenment images shape up (thanks to hard work by JustinP) they are going to rock the planet |
04:51.38 | |matt| | Enlightenment - on these things?!!?? |
04:51.44 | |matt| | Really? |
04:51.45 | shadows | the main difference of GPE vs. Opie is the use of x11 for GPE |
04:51.46 | |matt| | Wow. |
04:51.50 | shadows | yeah |
04:51.57 | |matt| | That must be a hog. |
04:51.59 | shadows | E looks like ass on a desktop, that is my opinion |
04:52.08 | shadows | on an embedded device it is super |
04:52.14 | shadows | a hog? |
04:52.20 | shadows | E17 is not a hog |
04:52.33 | shadows | it's probably one of the more efficient eye candy systems i've seen |
04:52.38 | shadows | clean code, well thought out |
04:52.44 | shadows | i hate it on a modern desktop computer |
04:52.49 | |matt| | Its been ages since I've tried it on my desktop, but it was a beast to run at the time. |
04:53.00 | shadows | oh that's like, oldschool E |
04:53.06 | shadows | before Metacity E |
04:53.13 | |matt| | Correct. |
04:53.14 | shadows | pre-Bush E |
04:53.26 | shadows | pre-war-on-terror E |
04:54.10 | |matt| | Well, I really would like to put this thing into use, and I think I need to make a choice here pretty quick. |
04:54.56 | |matt| | I suspect that I will go with whichever has the most software flexability. |
04:55.05 | shadows | that is going to be openzaurus |
04:55.50 | |matt| | What do you use to sync with? On the DT? |
04:55.52 | shadows | your choices consist of modified Sharp ROMs, cacko rom, something totally custom, debian, OpenBSD, and OpenZaurus |
04:55.55 | shadows | oh |
04:55.57 | shadows | i don't sync |
04:56.06 | shadows | i use an older model Palm Pilot for important stuff |
04:56.17 | shadows | it's a Palm IIIxe upgraded to Palm OS 4.1 |
04:56.22 | |matt| | May I ask why? |
04:56.30 | shadows | i've dropped it on concrete maybe three hundred times |
04:56.38 | shadows | the screen is still fine, works great |
04:57.09 | shadows | it works with every sync software in the known world of open source |
04:57.24 | shadows | plus i modded the cradle so that it doesn't drain the battery |
04:57.25 | |matt| | I've cracked the screen on two handsprings |
04:57.28 | shadows | yeah |
04:57.42 | |matt| | ohh well. |
04:57.50 | shadows | get a Palm IIIxe IMO, and mod the cradle so it doesn't bleed the battery, and also do an OS upgrade |
04:58.02 | shadows | total cost, 30 bucks, and some positive eBay feedback |
04:58.37 | |matt| | Nope. I'm gonna make this thing work or I'm going back to a pen and pad. |
04:58.48 | shadows | my Z doesn't leave the house unless i'm doing a wifi survey or some GPS fooby |
04:58.54 | shadows | heh |
04:59.12 | shadows | i didn't buy it 'cause i wanted a PDA, i bought it for the geek factor |
04:59.12 | |matt| | That IS sad. I thought that was the point? |
04:59.22 | |matt| | Ahhh... |
04:59.35 | |matt| | I was very fortunate, I was given mine. |
04:59.38 | shadows | ah |
05:00.17 | shadows | i read that the collie units have better screens than the spitz and borzoi |
05:01.00 | shadows | really i have the C3000 unit for the same reason i have an Mac Colour Classic |
05:01.05 | shadows | they run linux |
05:01.08 | shadows | and they're pure geek |
05:01.36 | |matt| | This thing seems to be as functional as any pda I have previously used, and then some. |
05:01.39 | |matt| | Very nice. |
05:01.45 | shadows | *nod* |
05:01.59 | shadows | i also have an wrt54gs hardware unit that runs linux, and is very functional |
05:02.08 | shadows | it runs the DNS service for my domain pimpcat.org |
05:02.13 | shadows | plus wifi and etc. etc. |
05:02.17 | shadows | i'm pleased with that |
05:02.38 | |matt| | But I would like a decent image viewer, and more full featured media player. |
05:02.54 | shadows | the Sharp ROM for spitz had a really nice one |
05:03.02 | shadows | i think accelerated players are available for collie |
05:03.14 | shadows | not yet for spitz so i haven't checked them out - i wouldn't be the one to ask |
05:03.20 | |matt| | well, seems like a good way to go for dns. Uberlow power. |
05:05.26 | |matt| | I may have to reinstall opie. |
05:05.30 | shadows | hmm |
05:05.36 | shadows | yeah openwrt is on that |
05:05.47 | shadows | it works fine for a home connection website server |
05:06.19 | |matt| | it really seems like there is little or no traffic on the OZ website, though. A little disconcerting. |
05:07.40 | shadows | oh |
05:07.42 | |matt| | Ohh, and do you have an aggregator of some sort Web and RSS. Like avantgo? |
05:07.43 | shadows | the developers are busy |
05:07.49 | |matt| | Fair enough. |
05:07.57 | |matt| | And that is good to hear. |
05:07.59 | shadows | i mean, when they are around on IRC |
05:08.01 | shadows | try to talk to them |
05:08.12 | shadows | 10 min later they say "well, talk is enough. time to do something useful" |
05:08.38 | |matt| | Yea, I have been so wrapped up in my work that I have not been here at all. |
05:08.49 | shadows | i've been granted a wordpress account to write a WPA howto for the sit |
05:08.51 | shadows | site |
05:08.57 | shadows | i'm hoping to find time to finish it |
05:09.09 | shadows | too busy though lately |
05:09.11 | shadows | :) |
05:09.17 | |matt| | I used to haunt the HPC and beowulf channels, not to mention suse. |
05:09.18 | shadows | |matt|: may i ask what your company does? |
05:09.33 | |matt| | Animations for TV shows and industrial sims. |
05:09.38 | |matt| | Very small time. |
05:09.51 | shadows | oh okay |
05:10.12 | shadows | i'm not a 3d modelling artist, though i have an interest in things like blender et. al. |
05:10.28 | |matt| | We use blender almost exclusively. |
05:10.44 | |matt| | Cost can't be matched and the performance is exeptional. |
05:11.11 | shadows | really? |
05:11.25 | |matt| | Back to the Avantgo question, do you have a recomendation |
05:11.27 | shadows | i tried doing some tutorials. i find them overwhelming |
05:11.33 | shadows | avantgo... |
05:12.03 | |matt| | Ohh 3d in general is a beast. It has a steep learning curve, but can be very rewarding. |
05:12.26 | shadows | okay i'm missing what the avantgo question is |
05:12.58 | |matt| | Is there a program that grabs offline content while online and tucks it away for later viewing? |
05:13.12 | |matt| | Linux oriented of course. |
05:14.09 | shadows | oh |
05:14.13 | shadows | something like plucker? |
05:14.28 | shadows | err the answer is yes and there are very good ones |
05:14.34 | shadows | i'm not familiar with them though |
05:14.38 | shadows | it's not something i use |
05:15.48 | |matt| | Right, because your machine never leaves a networked environment, right? |
05:16.54 | shadows | exactly. in fact my vampire bretheren do all the web browsing for me during normal bloodletting hours |
05:16.59 | shadows | so it's really not an issue here |
05:17.06 | |matt| | Nice. |
05:17.21 | |matt| | Ahhh, and opie-reader is plucker compat! |
05:17.24 | |matt| | Joyus day. |
05:17.40 | shadows | the Qt based development is generally more "with it" |
05:17.45 | shadows | i despise Qt |
05:18.19 | shadows | it's something to do with my deep seeded contempt for C++ programming |
05:18.25 | shadows | which i've done enough of to know it's not for me |
05:18.43 | |matt| | I have a special place in my heart for GTK, but Qt does seem to be very mature. |
05:18.49 | shadows | *nod* |
05:18.54 | |matt| | In the embedded world, that is. |
05:18.59 | shadows | exactly. |
05:19.18 | |matt| | And I am a little disappointed with the latest gnome showings relative to KDE. |
05:19.28 | |matt| | Nice, but just not as polished. |
05:20.25 | |matt| | Now if only the Gimp would run on this thing... |
05:20.31 | shadows | oh it will |
05:20.41 | shadows | that's if you're using GPE-image though |
05:20.52 | |matt| | I can hear the swapping now. |
05:20.57 | shadows | hmm |
05:21.15 | shadows | i guess running gimp would be less of an issue on spitz |
05:21.23 | |matt| | My little microdrive will be running its little heart out. |
05:22.55 | |matt| | Well, I will find my way to fetching OZ and maybe compiling it. |
05:23.07 | |matt| | I really appreciate the time, shadows. |
05:23.22 | shadows | hey it's no bother at all. you're welcome to bug me anytime |
05:23.31 | |matt| | Thanks much. |
05:23.34 | |matt| | Gnight. |
05:23.41 | shadows | 'nite |
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05:24.08 | shadows | hitchhikers are cool people generally |
05:24.14 | shadows | i'm so pleased |
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09:29.16 | shadows | i wonder, is .dev branch useable or unusable |
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09:36.16 | XorA | shadows: usable |
09:36.39 | shadows | okay |
09:36.44 | shadows | what should i put for my DISTRO= line |
09:37.00 | shadows | i'm going to want a 2.6 kernel |
09:37.24 | XorA | openzaurus-unstable |
09:37.29 | XorA | for Z machines |
09:37.39 | shadows | that requires the 2.95 compiler, apparently |
09:37.41 | shadows | doesn't it? |
09:37.43 | XorA | you on a borzoi, akita or spitz? |
09:37.46 | shadows | spitz |
09:37.59 | XorA | 2.6 kernel has no need of 2.95.X compiler |
09:38.02 | shadows | oh okay |
09:38.13 | shadows | so that's just cruft when i choose 2.6 target hrm |
09:38.15 | XorA | only the old sharp kernel needs that |
09:38.34 | shadows | that's my present concern, i am on an amd64 host |
09:38.43 | shadows | the 32-bit chroot attempt failed rather magnificently |
09:38.44 | shadows | ;) |
09:39.14 | shadows | would you suggest opie-image or gpe-image |
09:40.51 | alan|home | hi gentlemen |
09:41.09 | shadows | hello alan |
09:42.05 | XorA | gpe-image works on amd64 as I in last few days fixed loads of .bb to make it work |
09:42.21 | alan|home | shadows: gpe is great |
09:42.56 | shadows | nice |
09:43.00 | shadows | i like GPE personally |
09:43.14 | shadows | though i'm to admit that the stable opie stuff is more useable |
09:43.28 | alan|home | too bad gpe it is not as nice as opie... |
09:43.33 | shadows | should i set an extra PREFERRED_PROVIDERS ? |
09:44.32 | alan|home | XorA: what is the sdl provider, btw ? it's noted on my laptop which is not booted yet... |
09:46.04 | alan|home | shadows: you will need this line so that sdl apps work under gpe |
09:46.24 | alan|home | if you can wait for a minute, i'll boot my laptop |
09:46.35 | shadows | thanks |
09:46.48 | shadows | i wonder if this line should be added to the file in OE, commented out |
09:46.51 | shadows | it's used so often |
09:47.44 | alan|home | too me, it should... |
09:48.03 | hrw|work | morning |
09:48.09 | shadows | salut |
09:48.09 | alan|home | dam, i should install software suspend to my laptop... |
09:48.18 | alan|home | hey hrw|work |
09:50.23 | shadows | i may learn how to write an GPE modification for WPA to work |
09:50.42 | shadows | it should not be so difficult |
09:51.58 | alan|home | shadows: to local.conf, add a line : PREFERED_PROVIDER_virtual/libsdl = "libsdl_x11" |
09:52.03 | shadows | okay |
09:52.10 | shadows | where, do you think? near the top |
09:52.14 | XorA | PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/libsdl = "libsdl-x11" |
09:52.17 | shadows | or at the bottom of the list |
09:52.22 | alan|home | i think it doesn't matter |
09:52.53 | alan|home | i wrote it right after the list |
09:53.23 | shadows | and not... |
09:53.52 | shadows | PREFERRED_PROVIDERS += " virtual/libsdl:libsdl-x11" ? |
09:54.36 | shadows | i.e. there is a line which sets virtual/libsdl:libsdl-qpe |
09:54.47 | shadows | shouldn't i be replacing that line |
09:56.24 | alan|home | mmm... i didn't commment this line out... |
09:56.37 | DataBeaver | What's busybox's startup script? |
09:59.21 | shadows | okay |
09:59.26 | shadows | here goes nothin'... ;) |
09:59.46 | shadows | 'nite all |
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11:01.09 | `pwgen` | hello |
11:01.28 | webmind | that's what they all say ;) |
11:01.31 | webmind | goodmorning |
11:05.47 | `pwgen` | *G* lunchtime ... |
11:06.24 | `pwgen` | is annyone here who can commit changes to the 2.6.15-r1 kernel for openzaurus ? |
11:06.34 | `pwgen` | i have 2 whishes .. |
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11:07.15 | hrw|work | `pwgen`: which are? |
11:07.44 | `pwgen` | 1. enable the tun module so i can get vpnc and other 2 work . |
11:08.17 | `pwgen` | 2. enable snd-hwdep module so i the snd-bt_sco module can get loaded .. |
11:08.48 | hrw|work | could you prepare diffs for defconfigs and add it into OE bugtracker? we will take care of it |
11:08.59 | `pwgen` | ( by the way sound work on c1000 with 2.6.15-r1 kernel !!! very nice ) |
11:09.48 | `pwgen` | ok i make a diff and put it on bugtracker .. |
11:09.55 | hrw|work | thx |
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11:30.00 | `pwgen` | hrw: http://bugs.openembedded.org seems down |
11:33.13 | hrw|work | I see.. |
11:33.25 | hrw|work | send it to irc-oe@hrw.one.pl |
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13:30.03 | shadows | :( |
13:30.15 | hrw|work | shadows: ? |
13:30.15 | shadows | " FATAL: This kernel is too big for your PXA Zau..." |
13:30.31 | hrw|work | move something to modules |
13:30.46 | shadows | oh okay, what's the size i'm supposed to keep it under |
13:30.54 | shadows | right now it's Size is 1327200 |
13:31.09 | hrw|work | 1.2M iirc |
13:32.32 | shadows | 1258291? |
13:33.28 | hrw|work | <PROTECTED> |
13:33.31 | shadows | i'm not exactly sure how i would go about move something to modules |
13:33.34 | shadows | oh |
13:33.54 | hrw|work | default defconfig fits |
13:34.05 | shadows | that's what i'm using |
13:34.14 | shadows | my compiler is gcc (GCC) 4.0.3 20051201 (prerelease) (Debian 4.0.2-5) |
13:34.46 | shadows | know of a way i could tell it to compile with -Os ? |
13:35.12 | hrw|work | that gcc is arm one? |
13:35.20 | shadows | hmm |
13:35.31 | shadows | no that's the host gcc |
13:35.48 | shadows | i'm not exactly sure which gcc is used to compile the oe sources |
13:36.05 | shadows | this is the .dev branch i'm compiling |
13:36.08 | shadows | and a 2.6 kernel |
13:36.46 | hrw|work | we use gcc-cross which OE builds |
13:37.20 | shadows | if that's true, then shouldn't this be working? |
13:39.12 | shadows | note, i am on amd64 host, maybe that is having some impact |
13:49.40 | shadows | hm. i must go to work |
13:52.23 | simcop2387 | shadows: w00t another amd64 user of zaurus's |
13:55.35 | XorA | shadows: I am on amd64 and my kernel fits |
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14:33.54 | |matt| | Hello all, I have flashed and flashed on my collie, and I continually run out of memory while upgrading. Which zImage should I be using to minimize this (I have no SD cards) |
14:34.04 | |matt| | I do have 1GB cf card |
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16:28.01 | NoFonE | CoreDump are you there ? |
16:28.59 | hrw|work | NoFonE: where are you from? (city of Poland) |
16:30.14 | NoFonE | one quick question ,,, i've downloaded installed the oz image you have pointed for me ,, |
16:30.28 | NoFonE | Nowy Sacz , near Cracow |
16:31.16 | NoFonE | how should i boot from that image |
16:31.18 | NoFonE | cardfs-opie-collie-openzaurus_oz3.5.3-opie1.2.0-r1.bin |
16:31.21 | NoFonE | can i boot from it ,,. |
16:31.34 | NoFonE | ? |
16:31.46 | hrw|work | Nowy Sącz.. tam jeszcze nie byłem ;) |
16:31.54 | hrw|work | NoFonE: rename it to initrd.bin and flash |
16:31.59 | NoFonE | hehe |
16:32.12 | NoFonE | nope it'w wont work |
16:32.22 | NoFonE | image is to big is like 21megabytes |
16:32.28 | NoFonE | zaurus 5500 flash rom 16 |
16:33.11 | NoFonE | CoreDump - can you assist me ? |
16:33.44 | CoreDump|home | yep, you didn't read the documentation |
16:33.50 | NoFonE | jupp |
16:33.51 | NoFonE | :) |
16:33.59 | NoFonE | how did you know :) |
16:34.14 | CoreDump|home | cause you tried flashing the wrong file |
16:34.26 | NoFonE | no i didn't tried |
16:34.33 | NoFonE | i knew that this image was to large |
16:34.38 | NoFonE | i've loaded the proper image |
16:34.53 | NoFonE | and now i loded that cardfs image into the sd formated ext2 card |
16:35.05 | NoFonE | cardfs-opie-collie-openzaurus_oz3.5.3-opie1.2.0-r1.bin |
16:35.08 | NoFonE | this guy ,, |
16:35.38 | NoFonE | without sd card zaurus boots up normally but witout any aplication,, as i guess everybody know |
16:36.02 | CoreDump|home | yep |
16:36.28 | NoFonE | and it want to create that image |
16:36.31 | hrw|work | heh.. why Zauruses are so expensive.. if someone with Z comes from Poland then its 90% chance that he has collie... |
16:36.37 | NoFonE | if i would have clean pure ext formated sd card |
16:36.53 | CoreDump|home | right |
16:37.30 | NoFonE | so what the deal with that cardfs image ? |
16:37.39 | NoFonE | should i put somewehre |
16:37.44 | NoFonE | and than boot straight from sD ? |
16:37.51 | CoreDump|home | as cardfs installs applications to your SD card, older stuff must be removed first |
16:38.10 | CoreDump|home | NoFonE: it's all in the documentation, really. |
16:38.13 | NoFonE | ok but first of all it want' to delete it all :) |
16:38.23 | CoreDump|home | then do so |
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16:39.10 | NoFonE | ok |
16:39.43 | NoFonE | does anybody have zaurus 6000 here |
16:39.43 | NoFonE | ? |
16:41.27 | NoFonE | hrw - what you would prefer more than zaurus ? |
16:41.46 | hrw|work | NoFonE: I have 5500 and c760 |
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16:42.14 | hrw|work | but would like to have 6000 or other portrait linuxpda |
16:42.57 | NoFonE | is the 5600 in someparts a bit better than 5500 ? |
16:43.04 | NoFonE | i know that the main difference is CPU |
16:43.07 | NoFonE | ??? |
16:43.14 | hrw|work | 5600? avoid |
16:43.23 | hrw|work | 32M of ram only |
16:43.27 | CoreDump|home | avoid at any cost heh |
16:43.59 | hrw|work | I can take one if someone has but unofficially ;) |
16:44.20 | NoFonE | oh,,, CoreDump - zaurus is installing an image,, |
16:44.32 | NoFonE | it is takeing him a while to do it ,, |
16:44.41 | CoreDump|home | that's normal |
16:45.03 | hrw|work | I have to get tosa into hands one day to look why people likes them |
16:45.37 | NoFonE | have anybody installed newton ? on the Z |
16:45.38 | NoFonE | ? |
16:45.46 | NoFonE | is is worth something ? |
16:45.59 | CoreDump|home | ~tosa |
16:46.03 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, tosa is the Sharp SL-6000 PDA, or a dog (see http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/tosa.htm) |
16:53.22 | NoFonE | CoreDump: ok what's next |
16:53.24 | NoFonE | :) ? |
16:53.31 | CoreDump|home | ? |
16:53.47 | NoFonE | now should i try to boot straight from SD ? |
16:53.57 | CoreDump|home | well no |
16:54.05 | CoreDump|home | you still didn't read the docs |
16:55.30 | NoFonE | well |
16:55.36 | NoFonE | ok it has now booted up |
16:55.39 | NoFonE | with all the aplications |
16:55.40 | NoFonE | :) |
16:57.09 | CoreDump|home | great |
16:57.24 | raduga | looks like OESF is down again |
16:57.27 | raduga | boop |
16:58.11 | raduga | coredump: by the way, the "surprise" when booting hentges is... a little disorienting |
16:58.24 | CoreDump|home | heh |
16:59.00 | raduga | And it means I probably won't be running that rom, when I'm sitting at an important meeting, and trying to look like I'm paying attention |
16:59.05 | hrw|work | cu |
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17:04.41 | CoreDump|home | it's not like you can't turn it off. |
17:04.54 | CoreDump|home | rm /etc/altboot.rc/$file |
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17:34.41 | NoFonE | btw does anybody know |
17:34.46 | NoFonE | why my wifi compact card |
17:34.52 | NoFonE | d-link 660w |
17:35.19 | NoFonE | blinks A link diode all the time even if it has a stable link |
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17:36.00 | NoFonE | CoreDum is there somekind a problem |
17:36.22 | NoFonE | of d-link df-660w working under 3.5.3 zaurus image |
17:37.01 | raduga | if the link light is blinking all the time, how do you know it has a stable link? |
17:38.09 | wibbit | raduga, I'd hazard a guess, that he's able to browse around fairly easily |
17:38.17 | wibbit | not that this means it's stable of course |
17:44.53 | NoFonE | couse i'am pinging the gateway |
17:45.05 | NoFonE | and there seems to bo no problem what so ever with communication |
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19:11.34 | DataBeaver | What's busybox's startup script? |
19:13.14 | CoreDump|home | ? |
19:35.01 | DataBeaver | Like .bashrc for bash |
19:35.22 | CoreDump|home | ahh that. /etc/profile |
19:35.32 | DataBeaver | I edited the .profile in my homedir to get /usr/games to path, but as a result root also has the same path |
19:36.05 | CoreDump|home | hmm that shouldn't happen |
19:37.01 | DataBeaver | Yeah, but it's happening nevertheless :P |
19:38.24 | CoreDump|home | are you using the root-xterm in GPE to check that? |
19:40.24 | DataBeaver | gpe-su yeah |
19:40.34 | CoreDump|home | try the VT then |
19:40.37 | DataBeaver | Side question: What's the endianness of a Zaurus? |
19:41.10 | DataBeaver | I get the correct path when I login in console |
19:42.10 | CoreDump|home | thought so |
19:42.27 | CoreDump|home | had some problems in that direction as well |
19:42.53 | CoreDump|home | looks like "su" doesn't trash the ENV and load the new one |
19:43.36 | DataBeaver | Yeah |
19:46.31 | DataBeaver | And root's .profile has the correct path too... |
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20:18.15 | prh | are you "su" or "su -i" ing? |
20:21.25 | DataBeaver | Haven't tried su -i... |
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20:21.43 | DataBeaver | That prints the usage message |
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23:50.46 | |matt| | Hello all. I have just gotten a collie, and I am trying to install the upgrades. Each time I do this it looks like I am running out of space on the root device. |
23:51.26 | |matt| | I removed the dev section for the root device and now it says nothing needs to be done. |
23:52.11 | |matt| | How do I dictate where to install new files (cf card) and where not to? |