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| 00:44.44 | shadows | is OpenZaurus being phased out? |
| 01:08.55 | tanq | i don't think so why? |
| 01:17.55 | shadows | tanq: openzaurus.org is expired |
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| 02:28.21 | subdue | Expiration Date:05-Feb-2007 17:07:13 UTC |
| 02:28.24 | subdue | I dont think so |
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| 03:39.54 | tanq | shadows: read the topic |
| 03:39.58 | tanq | openzaurs.sf.net |
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| 04:55.03 | Timelord | Dagnabbit. |
| 04:55.41 | Timelord | My microdrive does not automount. Can't figure out how to manually mount it. |
| 04:55.50 | Timelord | It does recognize in the cf list at least. |
| 05:05.08 | shadows | tanq: yes, but is the openzaurus project being depreciated in favor of Angstrom? |
| 05:13.59 | tanq | `angstrom? |
| 05:19.14 | tanq | ah... yeah they're not going to develop for the 5600 as far as i know |
| 05:25.04 | Timelord | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:25.56 | JustinP | Timelord: use the same things as on normal linux. fdisk and mke2fs |
| 05:26.52 | Timelord | I am a clueless newbie in general when it comes to most linux stuff. -_- |
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| 06:11.46 | Timelord | Everything I do to mount my blasted cf microdrive on my zaurus results in failure. -_- |
| 06:12.13 | Timelord | I have googled up various things and tried them. Nothing works. I am not even sure why. |
| 06:13.18 | JustinP | Timelord: how big is the MicroDrive? |
| 06:13.58 | Timelord | 4gig |
| 06:14.20 | JustinP | Timelord: hehe, yeah, that should work |
| 06:14.24 | JustinP | Timelord: did you *format* it? |
| 06:14.33 | JustinP | Timelord: did you partition it? |
| 06:14.39 | JustinP | Timelord: does it work in anything else? |
| 06:15.19 | Timelord | I can't get any of the commands to work. Not sure which device it is to start with. |
| 06:15.29 | JustinP | dmesg |
| 06:15.32 | JustinP | see what it says |
| 06:15.41 | JustinP | when you insert the drive |
| 06:16.03 | Timelord | ide0 |
| 06:16.22 | JustinP | hdb? hdc? |
| 06:16.42 | Timelord | VFS: Disk change detected on device ide0(3,1) |
| 06:16.42 | Timelord | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:16.59 | JustinP | ok, let's start again from the beginning |
| 06:17.03 | JustinP | which zaurus? |
| 06:17.09 | Timelord | sl-6000 |
| 06:17.40 | JustinP | hmmmm...well, I don't know for sure that the sl-6000 can use a 4G drive... |
| 06:18.03 | JustinP | but you could try installing fdisk and fdisk /dev/hda |
| 06:19.34 | Timelord | Unable to read /dev/hda |
| 06:21.27 | JustinP | perhaps your Z can't use such a large drive |
| 06:21.32 | JustinP | or maybe the drive is dead |
| 06:21.39 | JustinP | or maybe your Z can't power it |
| 06:21.50 | JustinP | I'd suggest trying it in another device |
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| 06:25.18 | Timelord | Works great in my laptop. |
| 06:29.22 | Timelord | Hrmmm.... |
| 06:29.47 | Timelord | The drive is not powered. -_- |
| 06:32.05 | Timelord | Any idea on why the drive fails to turn on in the zaurus but works in the laptop? It is a 5v drive according to the back of it. |
| 06:33.10 | ashikase | what kind of microdrive is it? |
| 06:33.16 | ashikase | brand, etc |
| 06:35.31 | Timelord | Seagate ST1. |
| 06:38.53 | ashikase | i don't have a 6000, but usually the CF slot is tied to /dev/sda, not /dev/hda |
| 06:40.29 | Timelord | It mounts my 64meg cf card as hda1 |
| 06:41.20 | Timelord | How do I send a 'wake the hell up' signal to a cf card? |
| 06:41.39 | ashikase | cardctl resume <slot number> |
| 06:42.04 | ashikase | have you tried searching the oesf.org forums? that's about the only advice I can give at the moment |
| 06:42.43 | Timelord | Will continue my quest. Thank you for the leads though. |
| 06:43.07 | ashikase | sorry, and good luck |
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| 06:56.04 | ashikase | using altboot (or some other method), is it possible to use both OZ and the original Sharp ROM on a single Zaurus? |
| 06:56.38 | ashikase | I want to use OZ, but I have at least one program that I haven't been able (yet) to get running |
| 07:00.09 | JustinP | ashikase: no |
| 07:00.20 | JustinP | ashikase: different kernel |
| 07:00.33 | ashikase | I thought altboot could switch kernels |
| 07:00.38 | JustinP | no |
| 07:00.55 | JustinP | kexec is only recently working and only with 2.6 kernels |
| 07:01.18 | ashikase | dang |
| 07:01.22 | JustinP | altboot will be able to switch kernels soon, but only if you boot from a 2.6 kernel |
| 07:01.29 | JustinP | do you use a 2.6 kernel? |
| 07:01.50 | ashikase | not if I want to use the Sharp ROM |
| 07:02.12 | JustinP | heh, no, for OZ |
| 07:02.43 | ashikase | I just installed OZ last week (for the 3rd? time) |
| 07:02.46 | ashikase | on my 760 |
| 07:02.57 | JustinP | if you're using a 2.6 kernel for OZ and you get one with kexec you can reboot with 2.4 |
| 07:03.12 | ashikase | ah |
| 07:03.17 | JustinP | however....it is probably not possible to use the same flash with 2.6 as 2.4 |
| 07:03.34 | JustinP | no wait... |
| 07:03.40 | JustinP | I think that's only for the Akita... |
| 07:03.42 | JustinP | but I'm not sure |
| 07:04.03 | ashikase | well, if I can get everything working under OZ, I don't need the old Sharp ROM |
| 07:04.06 | JustinP | anyway, you *may* have problems accessing the same flash with 2.6 and 2.4, but you also may not :-| |
| 07:04.14 | ashikase | heh |
| 07:04.16 | ashikase | good answer |
| 07:04.42 | JustinP | well, I don't have the problem as I have a Spitz and don't use flash for 2.6, only for 2.4 |
| 07:05.45 | ashikase | I can't remember which codename is which |
| 07:05.52 | JustinP | from what RP said I don't *think* you would have a problem...but still, remember that you'd have to deal with dual booting thr same core flash with your machine... |
| 07:05.59 | JustinP | ask ibot |
| 07:06.01 | JustinP | ~spitz |
| 07:06.04 | ibot | rumour has it, spitz is the Sharp SL-C3000, or a dog |
| 07:06.17 | ashikase | ah, k |
| 07:06.53 | ashikase | I have both a 760 and a 3100... eventually want to switch my 3100 over to OZ |
| 07:07.01 | ashikase | just using the 760 for testing |
| 07:07.48 | Timelord | Seagate ST1 with firmware 3.04 is crippled. -_- |
| 07:07.53 | ashikase | eh? |
| 07:08.06 | Timelord | Seagate screwed the pooch. Bastards. |
| 07:08.43 | JustinP | Timelord: what's wrong with it? |
| 07:08.56 | JustinP | ashikase: the 3100 *should* work with OZ... |
| 07:09.21 | ashikase | Timelord, did you buy the drive seperately, or did you rip it from a device? |
| 07:09.59 | Timelord | Rip it from a device. The new firmware locks it as an ide device. Before it would work as either ide or cf. |
| 07:10.10 | Timelord | Any chance Zaurus can deal with this somehow? |
| 07:10.17 | ashikase | hitachi did the same thing with the muvos |
| 07:10.25 | JustinP | oh that's lovely |
| 07:10.28 | JustinP | hah |
| 07:10.32 | ashikase | Timelord: possibly, but not that I know of |
| 07:10.37 | JustinP | well...you could try rebooting with it in your Z |
| 07:10.54 | JustinP | but I doubt that will work...it *may* but not too likely |
| 07:11.14 | ashikase | odd that it works on your laptop |
| 07:11.24 | Timelord | Indeed. |
| 07:11.27 | JustinP | true |
| 07:11.34 | JustinP | which OS? |
| 07:11.35 | Timelord | Very strange. o_O |
| 07:11.41 | Timelord | xp pro |
| 07:12.00 | Timelord | Built in USB based 'CF/Microdrive' reader. |
| 07:12.09 | JustinP | it could be that Linux doesn't have a driver that can deal with IDE-only CF cards....or something... |
| 07:12.28 | JustinP | or that the Z doesn't have the hardware for it |
| 07:13.40 | JustinP | (if you read some of the spec it shows that the power rails are longer than the data rails. This makes the device start in CF mode rather than IDE mode) |
| 07:13.54 | JustinP | which is why I suggested rebooting with it in the Z |
| 07:13.58 | JustinP | it *might* work |
| 07:14.38 | ashikase | another option (though not a great one) is you can try using an external USB card reader |
| 07:15.08 | JustinP | hehehe |
| 07:15.19 | Timelord | ew. |
| 07:15.41 | JustinP | or you could plug it into an IDE converter then plug that into an IDE-USB converter ;-) |
| 07:15.51 | Timelord | Is there a way to force disable of cf mode? |
| 07:17.39 | JustinP | reboot with it in your Z.... |
| 07:17.41 | JustinP | perhaps |
| 07:17.47 | ashikase | heh |
| 07:17.56 | ashikase | perhaps you should try rebooting your Z? |
| 07:18.26 | ashikase | though, my guess is that you're flat out of luck |
| 07:18.28 | Timelord | Ok. There. Rebooted. The problem is that it is in 3.3volt mode but the card is 5v. |
| 07:19.12 | Timelord | It does seem to see it as an ide device at least. |
| 07:19.22 | Timelord | Dammit. -_- |
| 07:20.05 | JustinP | Timelord: what kernel? |
| 07:20.23 | Timelord | 2.4 |
| 07:21.19 | JustinP | perhaps you should try a 2.6 kernel |
| 07:21.30 | JustinP | not sure how well tosa is supported.... |
| 07:22.12 | ashikase | though switching your kernel (and distribution) just for a microdrive might not be worth it |
| 07:23.23 | JustinP | hehe |
| 07:25.39 | Timelord | 2.6 kernel is lacking for sl6000 as far as I can see. |
| 07:25.59 | Timelord | Though in general, the bastard child that is the sl-6000 is poorly supported in general. |
| 07:25.59 | JustinP | yeah...it's one of those that a kernel hacker (i.e. RP) doesn't have I bet |
| 07:26.05 | JustinP | yeah |
| 07:26.07 | Timelord | Thanks Sony! Jackass. -_- |
| 07:26.13 | JustinP | Sharp |
| 07:26.18 | JustinP | SHARP |
| 07:26.42 | Timelord | Sharp. Sony. Yes. They are both asswipes. They are all alike at the bottom. |
| 07:27.32 | ashikase | and the future doesn't look bright for the Zaurus line |
| 07:29.45 | Timelord | It is all my fault. I bought one. That is usually doom for a line. |
| 07:30.18 | JustinP | *we* still support them |
| 07:31.28 | Timelord | Not much better than Sharp for the bastard child sl-6000. :P |
| 07:31.45 | ashikase | ... |
| 07:32.01 | JustinP | if someone who has one does the work needed..... |
| 07:32.03 | ashikase | "don't bite the hand that feeds you" comes to mind |
| 07:35.42 | Timelord | Bleh. Was meant to be humorous. |
| 07:35.50 | Timelord | heh |
| 07:36.03 | Timelord | I wonder if I could install windows mobile on the Zaurus. |
| 07:36.11 | Timelord | That would be a hoot. |
| 07:36.39 | ashikase | if you want to write the drivers for it |
| 07:37.23 | JustinP | and pay MS for the licenses for dev, etc |
| 07:37.28 | Timelord | heh |
| 07:38.13 | Timelord | It is late. I am exausted. The mind tends to wander into bad places. |
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| 07:57.27 | alan|home | morning |
| 08:03.14 | JustinP | morning |
| 08:12.29 | Mudhoney | morning |
| 08:16.15 | ashikase | afternoon |
| 08:19.16 | hrw|work | mmornign |
| 08:19.19 | hrw|work | ~ugt |
| 08:19.20 | ibot | well, ugt is Universial Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. |
| 08:21.11 | alan|home | hi hrw|work |
| 08:21.20 | alan|home | ~hail ugt |
| 08:21.21 | ibot | ACTION bows down to ugt and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
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| 08:23.53 | ashikase | forgive me |
| 08:24.41 | Timelord | Well... I think it can be hacked via hardware. |
| 08:24.51 | Timelord | Or perhaps it will just burst into flames when I hack it. |
| 08:24.57 | Timelord | Either way it will be a hoot. |
| 08:25.00 | Timelord | Stupid Seagate. |
| 08:25.33 | Timelord | Ugh. Stupid sharp, seagate, adobe... I hate everything tonight. I am going to bed. |
| 08:28.22 | JustinP | sleep well Timelord |
| 08:30.25 | hrw|work | meeting... |
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| 09:13.51 | CoreDump|home | morning |
| 09:15.53 | tigger^ | hi |
| 09:22.44 | JustinP | CoreDump|home: morning |
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| 11:14.00 | hrw|work | someone here have poodle or tosa with test5? |
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| 11:16.06 | _law_ | hrw|work, i tested test5 with collie (5000d) this weekend, if i active an swapspace on sd (32mb) all works fine |
| 11:16.22 | hrw|work | ok |
| 11:17.25 | _law_ | cant test latested version of qpegps currently, because my btgps-mouse is defect :-( |
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| 11:43.00 | ashikase | cant test latest version of qpegps, because I haven't released it yet (^_^) |
| 11:49.46 | hrw|work | ashikase: you are qpegps upstream maintainer? |
| 11:51.17 | ashikase | more or less |
| 11:51.27 | ashikase | not the original, though |
| 11:52.15 | ashikase | the original pretty much stale a while back; I've been working on a (peudo)rewrite |
| 11:52.17 | hrw|work | good to know |
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| 13:28.31 | tanq | hrw|work: i'll put test5 on my 5600 tonight.. |
| 13:28.35 | tanq | off to w3rk |
| 13:28.39 | tanq | s/3/e |
| 13:33.09 | ashikase | werk? |
| 13:34.04 | XorA | s/e/o/ |
| 13:56.16 | tigger^ | has anyone played with the sisusb adaptors? |
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| 13:57.35 | XorA | not me |
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| 14:29.53 | alan|home | re |
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| 14:37.24 | XorA | alan|busy: hey |
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| 14:48.24 | alan|busy | hey XorA |
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| 16:28.35 | alan|home | To prevent the GPE/OE splash screen time from being hidden, is there a way to edit the splash screen (on the left side of the screen, one logo on top of the other, instead of one on the left, one on the right) ? |
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| 17:07.00 | matt_ | Just wanted to thank the folks that pointed me in the right direction with mplayer yesterday. |
| 17:07.27 | matt_ | Wrote a script which is now lovingly ripping my movies for on the road play. |
| 17:08.11 | matt_ | Thanks again all. |
| 17:09.07 | tigger^ | guess I should try ripping something |
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| 17:39.45 | mimecar | evening |
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| 18:00.07 | mimecar | hi alan|home |
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| 19:27.11 | hrw | ho |
| 19:32.05 | hrw | tigger^: which Z you haev? |
| 19:32.07 | mimecar | hey hrw |
| 19:32.18 | tigger^ | hrw: heard of anyone using the usb->svga adapters with a zaurus? |
| 19:32.21 | tigger^ | hrw: 3100 |
| 19:32.25 | tigger^ | borzoi (sp?) |
| 19:32.32 | hrw | ~3100 |
| 19:32.33 | ibot | i heard 3100 is a compaq iPAQ h3100 or a Sharp Zaurus SL-C3100 'borzoi' |
| 19:32.45 | tigger^ | go me |
| 19:33.02 | hrw | tigger^: not heard but it should be possible (may need powered hub) |
| 19:33.11 | tigger^ | hrw: mm. true |
| 19:33.17 | tigger^ | that would be a real shame |
| 19:33.26 | hrw | ? |
| 19:33.33 | tigger^ | hrw: well, having to plug something in |
| 19:33.39 | tigger^ | it wouldn't be as, "cool" |
| 19:33.40 | tigger^ | :) |
| 19:33.51 | hrw | tigger^: small battery makes it harder |
| 19:34.12 | tigger^ | mind you, if you're going to plug it into a monitor/project |
| 19:34.16 | tigger^ | must be power anyway |
| 19:34.43 | hrw | vga cable does not have powerlines |
| 19:34.51 | tigger^ | yes..my point is |
| 19:34.57 | tigger^ | the monitor/projector uses mains power |
| 19:35.04 | hrw | it is |
| 19:35.05 | tigger^ | so, you can't be in the middle of the desert without power |
| 19:35.25 | tigger^ | so, should be able to plug a powered hub in as well |
| 19:35.29 | hrw | your Z need power but will not share too much with usb device probably |
| 19:35.31 | hrw | sure |
| 19:35.47 | hrw | anyway I would like to have such problems :)) |
| 19:35.49 | tigger^ | heh |
| 19:36.15 | hrw | no usbhost = no usb problems :) |
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| 21:49.12 | tigger^ | is there any dia-style thing for openzaurus? |
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| 22:01.25 | tigger^ | is it possible to underclock on a 3100 with the 2.4 openzaurus? |
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| 22:57.40 | CoreDump|home | hi |
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