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| 03:53.26 | ashikase | heh.. the 3200 is out... +2GB |
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| 03:55.11 | ashikase | http://www.sharp.co.jp/corporate/news/060307-a.html |
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| 07:16.20 | jnc | i have received the tracking number of a package, said to contain my newly paid-for C3100 =) |
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| 08:14.36 | webmind | yay... 3.5.4 will come out soon :) |
| 08:14.44 | alan|home | morning |
| 08:14.53 | webmind | morning :) |
| 08:15.04 | alan|home | webmind: did you test the various RC images ? |
| 08:15.15 | webmind | alan|home, yes some |
| 08:15.29 | alan|home | test5 is (or so) 3.5.4 |
| 08:15.35 | webmind | k |
| 08:15.48 | webmind | test5 with the new apm stuff yes |
| 08:16.04 | webmind | I'm actually waiting for 3.5.4.1 though |
| 08:16.20 | alan|home | ^^ haaa... users alwyas want more... |
| 08:16.45 | alan|home | 3.5.4 isn't out, and you are looking forward next release |
| 08:17.22 | webmind | alan|home, indeed.. it's because I'd like some of the hardware support from 2.6 |
| 08:17.39 | alan|home | hehehe |
| 08:17.56 | webmind | 6000L here |
| 08:19.09 | webmind | but but I'd like some ethernet options for it.. only thing I've got now is a in 2.6 supported usb dongle |
| 08:19.18 | alan|home | here in france, they say "Patience and long time do more than strenght or madness" |
| 08:19.27 | webmind | true |
| 08:19.31 | webmind | I can wait ofcourse |
| 08:19.35 | webmind | since I'd like a good product |
| 08:19.42 | webmind | but I also would like to test :) |
| 08:19.49 | alan|home | ^^ |
| 08:20.19 | webmind | what's "^^" ? |
| 08:20.27 | johnX | madness however, is what makes me run my own daily builds out of .dev to get my 2.6 kernel fix... |
| 08:21.00 | alan|home | ^^ = (^^) = :-) |
| 08:21.07 | webmind | johnX, :) |
| 08:21.14 | webmind | ah |
| 08:21.25 | webmind | the japanese are taking over ;) |
| 08:21.31 | alan|home | i think they call those "japanese smileys" |
| 08:21.35 | alan|home | hehe |
| 08:21.55 | webmind | uhuh |
| 08:33.06 | hrw|work | morning |
| 08:33.31 | hrw|work | 2.6/tosa is future... |
| 08:35.03 | webmind | yes |
| 08:35.04 | webmind | ofcourse |
| 08:35.06 | webmind | :) |
| 08:35.10 | webmind | 2.4 is the past |
| 08:45.39 | champ | what kind of z is everyone using? |
| 08:46.43 | johnX | akita (and a collie that has battery/charge issues) |
| 08:50.40 | hrw|work | champ: c760 + 5500 |
| 08:51.02 | jnc | alan|home: here in america, the saying is that patience and long time means you've become used to surrendering for too long |
| 08:52.35 | alan|home | jnc: you don't want to go that way with me... ^^ |
| 08:52.38 | jnc | champ: fat chance :P |
| 08:52.46 | alan|home | hi hrw|work |
| 08:53.07 | jnc | alan|home: it's habit, reinforced by a million stupid americans around me. sorry, i don't mean any of it |
| 08:53.10 | alan|home | i can't find the oz devel mail you gave me yesterday... |
| 08:53.30 | hrw|work | 06 12:50 < hrw|work> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=openzaurus-devel&m=114138912904227&w=2 |
| 08:53.37 | alan|home | jnc: np, that is the kind of joke i like |
| 08:53.59 | alan|home | thanks hrw|work |
| 08:54.09 | jnc | the most sad information about america is the truth. |
| 08:54.27 | jnc | s/america/United States/ |
| 08:54.30 | jnc | for you canadians. |
| 08:54.37 | alan|home | hehe |
| 08:54.58 | jnc | not that i believe it when a canadian wants to be associated with being part of America |
| 08:55.23 | jnc | my C3000 does not suspend properly |
| 08:55.39 | jnc | RP believes this is due to missing CPU frequency control code |
| 08:55.51 | jnc | i.e. present in SharpROM kernel, absent in OZ kernel |
| 08:57.07 | jnc | so i am selling my C3000, and in its place i will receive a C3100 |
| 08:57.41 | jnc | however before i sell off my C3000, i want to know the missing code has been added, and that it works with my C3000 |
| 09:05.27 | XorA | morning |
| 09:05.37 | johnX | XorA: Thanks for adding my .bb for sylpheed. It makes me feel like submitting bug reports might be worthwhile. :) |
| 09:06.07 | XorA | johnX: no probs, we really needed a new working sylpheed |
| 09:07.36 | johnX | XorA: So, was sylpheed the only reason those patches were added to gnutls that gave it some functions from openssl? |
| 09:10.04 | XorA | johnX: I think so yes, obviously gnu stuff all uses gnuTLS anyway |
| 09:10.06 | hrw|work | hi xora |
| 09:14.18 | trucmuch | champ: 5500 |
| 09:20.29 | trucmuch | hi .... I ear about sylpheed ... does it work in gpe (oz test5) |
| 09:21.05 | hrw|work | trucmuch: sylpheed need VGA screen |
| 09:21.43 | trucmuch | ah .... and so does it mean no mail reader under X11 |
| 09:21.59 | trucmuch | but it is in X11 feed |
| 09:23.36 | hrw|work | but for armv5 iirc |
| 09:23.38 | XorA | trucmuch: mutt |
| 09:23.42 | hrw|work | so no work on collie |
| 09:24.16 | trucmuch | XorA: thanks |
| 09:27.56 | XorA | trucmuch: solution 2, pay hrw|work 5K USD to port opiemail3 |
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| 09:31.42 | hrw|work | XorA: I'm in UE so EUR preffered |
| 09:32.40 | XorA | ok, 6K EUR :-) |
| 09:33.15 | hrw|work | ~change 5000 usd to eur |
| 09:33.22 | hrw|work | ~change 5000 usd to pln |
| 09:36.22 | trucmuch | XorA: also somebody told me about tinymail .... but I think it was for less than that ^^ |
| 09:36.40 | obergix[work] | hi |
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| 09:37.57 | trucmuch | I'm sure they take € in Poland |
| 09:38.01 | XorA | there is a program called tinymail in OE, never run it though |
| 09:39.06 | hrw|work | trucmuch: we still has own currency - but if someone send me EUR then I can easily change them |
| 09:40.40 | trucmuch | I tried to install it but collie seems to definitly be the wrong horses now. |
| 09:42.21 | hrw|work | tinymail on collie? |
| 09:42.39 | trucmuch | hrw|work: I understand, but I really thought you where in europe (25) so with Euro .... but now I remember that english have also there currency |
| 09:43.08 | trucmuch | I thaught it was not a joke |
| 09:43.22 | XorA | we like our pounds |
| 09:44.45 | trucmuch | oouups, I'm gonna stay in my little hole ..... |
| 09:46.22 | trucmuch | sorry I didn't want to hurt :) |
| 09:48.02 | trucmuch | In our country I think that we are so stupid (me and some others) that we don't need currency to remember we live here |
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| 10:12.08 | XorA | trucmuch: the real reason we still have pounds if a complex social and political problem caused by The Sun newspaper and the English hatred of the French |
| 10:18.28 | trucmuch | XorA: a bit complex for me .... |
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| 10:19.55 | champ | pricejapan.com is already selling the c3200's |
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| 10:23.35 | trucmuch | XorA: pearaps there is a bit of this here too, with no Sun of course, but we are now in euro and thats it. |
| 10:24.40 | XorA | trucmuch: what country? |
| 10:25.23 | trucmuch | XorA: a poor hatred French I am |
| 10:27.07 | trucmuch | XorA: hated I wanted to say |
| 10:27.16 | XorA | trucmuch: heh heh, sorry, it is true though, the newspapers in UK stir up anti french crap anytime any MP here mentions europe |
| 10:29.20 | alan|home | trucmuch: ha... i don't like french people : they stink and they vote for stupid people |
| 10:29.58 | XorA | alan|home: is it cool? |
| 10:30.12 | webmind | alan|home, so you don't like the dutch either ? |
| 10:30.31 | alan|home | XorA: cool is not the word... supercalifragilisticexpidelilicious, i would say... |
| 10:30.41 | alan|home | webmind: i like noone |
| 10:30.44 | alan|home | ^^ |
| 10:30.53 | webmind | alan|home, right :) |
| 10:31.00 | alan|home | ^^ |
| 10:31.09 | webmind | XorA, that wasn't the same word |
| 10:31.13 | webmind | :) |
| 10:31.16 | webmind | no need to run |
| 10:31.24 | alan|home | i only know it in french... |
| 10:31.45 | trucmuch | alan|home: yes you are right and we are going soon to fire all americans we see .... we are kind of terrorist |
| 10:32.02 | alan|home | ^^ |
| 10:32.30 | alan|home | trucmuch: j'déconne, hein, je suis français aussi |
| 10:34.05 | trucmuch | alan|home: I notices a couple of minutes ago |
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| 10:37.40 | trucmuch | alan|home: hey ... when I talk about some stupid guys with me in front of my country, you were not in :) |
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| 10:45.18 | alan|home | trucmuch: :) |
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| 11:32.42 | _law_ | hrw, talked with pb_ about keylaunch problem on collie. he also think its an misconfiguration/bug from the xserver |
| 11:32.55 | hrw | great |
| 11:33.47 | _law_ | hrw, so we should map calendar to ctrl and contacts to alt or? ctrl and alt are important keys under X11 |
| 11:34.06 | _law_ | ctrl +x, ctrl + alt + backspace :-) |
| 11:34.13 | hrw | OZ 3.5.4 is tagged so we do not change it |
| 11:34.23 | _law_ | hrw, i know but for 3.5.4.1 |
| 11:34.34 | _law_ | or for updates/ |
| 11:34.57 | hrw | could |
| 11:35.17 | _law_ | i?ll try to flash pdaxrom 1.1beta1 on my collie and to some testing there or? |
| 11:40.50 | _law_ | http://www.trisoft.de/slc3200.htm :-) |
| 11:42.24 | obergix[work] | only the size of the HD changes ? |
| 11:43.36 | hrw | and case/keys color |
| 11:44.56 | hrw | now we wait for its dogname |
| 11:46.42 | obergix[work] | looks like there are windows keywords in blog posts in japanese mentioning the 3200 on google results... I hope it won't be shipped with windows also ? |
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| 14:54.19 | alan|laptop | anyone working on the graphical contest in here ? |
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| 14:57.05 | alan|laptop | hrw: i'm on the graphical contest |
| 14:57.11 | alan|laptop | was wondering : |
| 14:58.04 | alan|laptop | do you need some free space to be given on the bootsplash screen for progress bar ? |
| 14:58.53 | alan|laptop | or will this boot splash be an absolutely static logo while booting ? |
| 15:02.52 | hrw | currently it is static |
| 15:03.21 | hrw | probably you can add some space for progressbar but then say where it has to be |
| 15:03.54 | alan|laptop | ok. I think i may provide one for each sort... |
| 15:04.02 | alan|laptop | very different models, though |
| 15:04.40 | alan|laptop | didn't find any submitted model on oz users mail list... noone tried ? |
| 15:05.43 | hrw | noone |
| 15:06.09 | _law_ | alan|home, wow first candidate :-) |
| 15:06.59 | alan|laptop | bah... the more candidates, the best quality... |
| 15:07.08 | alan|laptop | come on everyone ! |
| 15:07.21 | alan|laptop | _law_: why don't you try ? |
| 15:08.00 | _law_ | alan|laptop, , dont had an good idea yet.... |
| 15:08.24 | alan|laptop | _law_: think again :) |
| 15:08.54 | _law_ | ok bbl |
| 15:09.01 | alan|laptop | with an idea ? |
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| 18:34.46 | CoreDump|home | hi |
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| 19:35.55 | polyonymous | is oz 3.5.4 build supposed to build 2.4 kernel for borzoi? |
| 19:37.17 | JustinP | yes |
| 19:37.17 | JustinP | but there won't be an official 3.4.5 release for the cxx00 |
| 19:37.26 | JustinP | we will release 3.5.4.1 with kernel 2.6 for cxx00 |
| 19:37.28 | polyonymous | Why not? Not that I object it, just wondering. |
| 19:37.30 | polyonymous | Aha. |
| 19:37.34 | JustinP | once it's done |
| 19:37.39 | JustinP | 2.4 is just too crappy |
| 19:37.51 | polyonymous | I think there's still something wrong with the build... |
| 19:37.52 | JustinP | ~lart embeddix and sharp |
| 19:38.06 | JustinP | heh, that one's kinda funny |
| 19:38.12 | polyonymous | it is :)) |
| 19:38.14 | JustinP | what's the problem? can't login to GPE? |
| 19:38.21 | polyonymous | Nope, with the build |
| 19:38.33 | polyonymous | I decided to start build afresh from .oz* branch |
| 19:39.14 | polyonymous | Recently I had to figure out a lot, trying to build the .dev branch and finally done it :) |
| 19:39.28 | polyonymous | Today I have tried the whole thing from scratch. |
| 19:39.53 | polyonymous | Basically, if I don't have arm-linux-gcc-2.95 then it fails on kernel |
| 19:40.12 | polyonymous | If I do, then it fails to create executable elsewhere. |
| 19:40.50 | JustinP | well...you have to have arm-linux-gcc-2.95 for 2.4 kernel builds |
| 19:40.57 | JustinP | due to embeddix crap |
| 19:40.58 | polyonymous | Well, I do :) |
| 19:41.05 | JustinP | ~lart embeddix and sharp |
| 19:41.10 | polyonymous | :)))) |
| 19:41.24 | JustinP | so what's the rrror? |
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| 19:42.20 | polyonymous | When I put it into path, I get compiler can not create executables error. Probably, because arm-linux-gcc is renamed to arm-linux-gcc-2.95 and it assumes arm gcc is provided? |
| 19:42.59 | polyonymous | But provided is only 2.95 and it fails on arm-linux-gcc |
| 19:43.27 | polyonymous | hmm... that could be the problem with CCACHE, could it? Do you set CCACHE_PATH? |
| 19:43.40 | JustinP | do you have the right ASSUME_PROVIDED in your local.conf? |
| 19:43.58 | JustinP | no, I don't set that |
| 19:44.52 | polyonymous | I have ASSUME_PROVIDED += "virtual/arm-linux-gcc-2.95" in openzaurus-3.5.4.conf, not? |
| 19:45.36 | polyonymous | Maybe that is the problem with gentoo's ccache that it doesn't look for compiler where it should... |
| 19:45.46 | JustinP | ah, I didn't know they'd added it there |
| 19:45.55 | JustinP | I'm also using gentoo |
| 19:46.02 | JustinP | no problems for me... |
| 19:47.00 | polyonymous | Hm. |
| 19:47.14 | polyonymous | Interesting. |
| 19:48.09 | polyonymous | What I've done is, starting afresh from local.conf.openz* edited DL_DIR and BBFILES and set the machine... |
| 19:53.29 | JustinP | and set machine and distro? |
| 19:53.56 | JustinP | I haven't started from scratch in a while... |
| 19:54.11 | polyonymous | yes |
| 19:54.22 | polyonymous | borzoi and openzaurus-3.5.4 |
| 19:55.33 | polyonymous | I am starting yet another task-bootstrap now, I believe I tweaked the environment, but don't remember exactly how, so we'll see :) |
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| 20:37.34 | polyonymous | hmm.. build went fine. I'll env >do-not-forget-me ;-) |
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