| 01:16.23 | *** join/#openzaurus Eddy (n=chatzill@adsl-69-153-122-229.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net) |
| 01:19.01 | Eddy | anoyone here |
| 01:19.03 | Eddy | ? |
| 01:21.44 | JustinP | sometimes |
| 01:25.17 | Eddy | Hey is there a way to create some kind of overlay filesystem on a Zaurus? |
| 01:25.28 | Eddy | that you know of |
| 01:26.11 | JustinP | overlay? |
| 01:26.34 | JustinP | unionfs is IIRC supposed to do that kind of thing, but I know nothing about it except that it wasn't stable... |
| 01:31.47 | Eddy | yeah |
| 01:32.07 | Eddy | I was wanting to install some ipkg's but I don't have enough space on / |
| 01:32.26 | Eddy | I was hoping I could install it to some kind of unionfs or something like that |
| 01:32.31 | Eddy | and overlay it over root |
| 01:33.02 | JustinP | you can just install to a card |
| 01:33.09 | JustinP | ipkg install -d sd package |
| 01:33.21 | Eddy | -d sd? |
| 01:33.25 | JustinP | or...my favorite option...move root to an SD card |
| 01:33.26 | Eddy | it knows what that means? |
| 01:33.32 | JustinP | ipkg help |
| 01:33.43 | Eddy | yeah |
| 01:33.45 | Eddy | I read about that |
| 01:33.57 | Eddy | it seemed kind of ambiguous to me |
| 01:34.09 | Eddy | is it just as fast running everything from SD? |
| 01:34.19 | Eddy | or root I mean |
| 01:35.39 | JustinP | depend son your card and machine |
| 01:35.42 | infinite- | thats my question too |
| 01:35.48 | JustinP | but it's always easier to deal with |
| 01:35.55 | infinite- | which is easier? :P |
| 01:36.04 | JustinP | root on a card |
| 01:36.32 | Eddy | You definetely get way more space |
| 01:37.33 | infinite- | nmmmm but which is faster |
| 01:39.07 | Eddy | or what might be a good idea is to put /usr/local on SD |
| 01:40.06 | infinite- | hey no answer? :P |
| 01:40.16 | Eddy | are all the ipkg's compiled so they can be placed anywhere on the filesystem |
| 01:40.18 | Eddy | ? |
| 01:41.38 | JustinP | it doesn't work that way |
| 01:41.45 | JustinP | you can install it anywhere |
| 01:41.52 | JustinP | then use ipkg-link to link the files to root |
| 01:42.11 | Eddy | ah sweet thats how you're doing it |
| 01:42.18 | Eddy | I didn't know about ipkg-link |
| 01:43.21 | infinite- | um |
| 01:43.30 | infinite- | silly question from a newbie |
| 01:43.34 | JustinP | infinite-: I said earlier it depend son your card and machine |
| 01:43.37 | infinite- | but how hard is openzaurus to use? |
| 01:43.44 | infinite- | JustinP ok ;) |
| 01:43.47 | JustinP | ummmm...depends on what you do |
| 01:44.10 | infinite- | well using cacko now but curious... what im doing.. internet & office mostly:) |
| 01:44.19 | infinite- | internet, both bt and wlan |
| 01:45.54 | JustinP | you can try oz |
| 01:46.00 | JustinP | it can do all that |
| 01:46.08 | JustinP | but it's not as user friendly as the Sharp ROM |
| 01:48.02 | infinite- | ive never used the sharp rom |
| 01:48.03 | infinite- | only cacko |
| 01:48.24 | infinite- | i have no wishes to try and make the sharp rom english |
| 01:48.40 | infinite- | (i know what process is like, enough of that on my sigmarion 3) |
| 01:48.47 | infinite- | so.. |
| 01:49.01 | infinite- | what is confusing me is the several versions of openzaurusd |
| 01:49.02 | infinite- | :O |
| 01:51.35 | Eddy | I have packages in a subfolder of my SD card call 'newipk' how do I ipkg-link them? |
| 01:51.57 | JustinP | install them to a card, then use ipkg-link mount sd |
| 01:51.59 | JustinP | or similar |
| 01:52.24 | Eddy | will that link everything on the card or something? |
| 01:52.40 | Eddy | does it have to be a clean card? |
| 01:53.16 | Eddy | or in a root directory |
| 01:53.16 | JustinP | needs to be ext2 |
| 01:53.26 | JustinP | and you have to *install* them to the card first |
| 01:53.38 | Eddy | I guess I can make a loopback |
| 01:53.41 | Eddy | on the card |
| 01:54.03 | JustinP | yep |
| 01:54.30 | Eddy | so it has to be its own filesystem, it can't just be a subfolder in my home directory? |
| 01:55.44 | JustinP | can be anywhere |
| 01:55.56 | JustinP | but you have to set it up in /etc/ipkg.conf |
| 01:56.13 | Eddy | man I wish man was included |
| 01:56.19 | Eddy | :-p |
| 01:56.31 | JustinP | ipkg help |
| 01:56.54 | Eddy | yeah but it doesn't tell you about ipkg.conf or ipkg-link |
| 01:59.22 | JustinP | you've already complained about space.... |
| 01:59.26 | JustinP | no room for man |
| 01:59.38 | Eddy | yeah |
| 01:59.56 | Eddy | not compaining though, just trying to work out a solution |
| 02:00.46 | tanq | ok what is the largest compatibly microdrive with the zaurus 5000 series |
| 02:00.47 | Eddy | so do I add 'src localrepo file:///home/user/pkglist/' and put my packages there? |
| 02:00.58 | JustinP | *install* |
| 02:01.39 | Eddy | src install file:///home/user/pkglist/ ? |
| 02:02.51 | JustinP | no.... |
| 02:02.59 | JustinP | you have to *install* the packages, not just put them there |
| 02:03.15 | Eddy | ok, do I need the packages themselves after installed? |
| 02:03.20 | JustinP | no |
| 02:03.30 | Eddy | ok so if I do this: |
| 02:03.53 | Eddy | dpkg -d home *.ipk # In my directory with new packages |
| 02:04.04 | Eddy | I mean ipkg |
| 02:04.10 | JustinP | -d localrepo |
| 02:04.49 | Eddy | in my ipkg.conf there is already a 'dest home /home/packages' |
| 02:04.56 | Eddy | wouldn't that be where I would want to send it too? |
| 02:05.41 | JustinP | sure |
| 02:06.11 | Eddy | ok so I do that and it installs it to /home/packages |
| 02:06.22 | Eddy | then do I just run ipkg-link add *.ipkg |
| 02:09.29 | Eddy | or just ipkg-link add /hom/packages |
| 02:10.11 | Eddy | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:11.19 | JustinP | ipkg-link mount home |
| 02:11.37 | Eddy | even though home is not a mount? |
| 02:11.51 | Eddy | is it just looking for one of the dests or something? |
| 02:12.03 | kados | my sl-6000 running 3.5.4 (pre release) loses wlan0 every time I suspend |
| 02:12.15 | kados | is there some way I can force it to come back up properly? |
| 02:12.46 | JustinP | Eddy: a dest of course |
| 02:13.00 | Eddy | ok thanks |
| 02:13.14 | JustinP | kados: yes. donate an SL-6000 to a developer who can fix it :-| |
| 02:14.29 | Eddy | justinp are you a dev? |
| 02:15.14 | kados | JustinP: um ... ok ... so hopefully I'd get more than just that out of the deal |
| 02:16.07 | kados | I'm all about sponsorship :-) |
| 02:16.33 | JustinP | heh |
| 02:16.45 | Eddy | I'd say I'm a leach but I always tend to contribute code and patches of some sort to the different projects I work with at some point |
| 02:16.46 | JustinP | Eddy: for some things. I'm not a hardware/kernel hacker really, though |
| 02:16.52 | Eddy | it keeps me in the ethical blue |
| 02:17.53 | jnc | not unlike microsoft donating billions to charity |
| 02:18.09 | kados | when I try to unload the usbcore module I get: |
| 02:18.14 | kados | usbcore: Device or resource busy |
| 02:18.26 | jnc | kados: yeaah. |
| 02:18.28 | Eddy | jeez I figured that was the open source way, what do I know though :-P |
| 02:18.35 | jnc | kados: is usbdcore involved? |
| 02:18.36 | kados | (someone on this channel recommended that i unload usbcore ) |
| 02:18.57 | kados | well ... i think on the sl-6000 usbcore manages the wlan0 device |
| 02:19.08 | jnc | oh! |
| 02:19.24 | jnc | all pre-requisite modules need to be unloaded first |
| 02:19.31 | kados | interesting |
| 02:19.35 | jnc | s/pre-requisite/dependent/ |
| 02:19.38 | kados | got it up |
| 02:19.45 | JustinP | lsmod |
| 02:20.10 | jnc | lsmod | grep usbcore |
| 02:20.12 | kados | I rmmoded prism2_usb and p80211 |
| 02:20.14 | jnc | should show you the shortlist |
| 02:20.16 | jnc | yeah |
| 02:20.22 | kados | and then did ifup wlan0 and it came back up |
| 02:20.33 | kados | should I add those commands to the 'interfaces' file? |
| 02:20.37 | jnc | it may be that the firmware gets confused |
| 02:20.50 | jnc | you could. i think that would be a sort of a hack, but it should _work_ |
| 02:21.15 | Eddy | hey thanks for the help |
| 02:21.19 | kados | where is the best place to add that so that when the z comes out of suspend it brings wlan0 back up? |
| 02:21.22 | Eddy | got it going now |
| 02:21.23 | jnc | what i might instead do though is make a custom script that checks what state things are in, and acts. then trigger the script |
| 02:21.45 | Eddy | I'll go report my progress to my boss Bill Gates now |
| 02:21.51 | Eddy | :-P |
| 02:21.54 | jnc | hehehe |
| 02:21.58 | jnc | cheers, Eddy |
| 02:22.07 | Eddy | later |
| 02:22.19 | kados | jnc: is there a way to add scripts to the list of processes run after suspend ends? |
| 02:22.33 | jnc | i don't think that's something i would know about |
| 02:22.34 | kados | ie when it comes out of suspend (been a long day) |
| 02:22.38 | kados | k |
| 02:22.41 | kados | anyone know? |
| 02:22.58 | jnc | you might just make it easier to bring down / up the interface |
| 02:23.12 | jnc | it's not too bad to bring the interface down and then back on again |
| 02:23.20 | JustinP | apmd |
| 02:23.34 | kados | could I add a menu item somehow to run my little script? |
| 02:23.47 | jnc | opie/gpe? |
| 02:23.48 | kados | if so, how would I go about doing that? |
| 02:23.50 | kados | opie |
| 02:25.48 | jnc | hmm... opie launchers. don't know., |
| 02:26.01 | JustinP | simple, just add a file to the menu... |
| 02:26.08 | JustinP | don't remember where it is offhand, though |
| 04:34.30 | *** join/#openzaurus Geo_KM (n=keith@ppp47-111.lns2.syd6.internode.on.net) |
| 04:43.00 | *** join/#openzaurus katossi (n=guillerm@dslb-084-062-129-111.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 06:16.29 | *** join/#openzaurus _law_ (n=law@mail.stiftadmont.at) |
| 07:04.46 | *** join/#openzaurus obergix[work] (n=olivier@mag77-1-82-238-13-91.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 07:16.38 | *** join/#openzaurus yath_ (n=yath@p5495E8EC.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 07:34.11 | *** join/#openzaurus zach (n=zach@c-24-17-252-226.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 07:35.17 | zach | I'm looking into setting up a build environment for my zaurus (Collie). Where should I start? Basically, I'd just like to start building packages and stuff that doesn't already exist/needs updating |
| 07:38.40 | webmind | morning |
| 07:39.23 | zach | Morning? Where are you? |
| 07:40.21 | webmind | western-europe |
| 07:41.25 | zach | Cool |
| 07:41.56 | zach | I'm always impressed that the internet can bring a geographically diverse set of people together |
| 07:43.29 | ljp | that depends on what rom image you want to develop for |
| 07:44.55 | zach | OpenZaurus 3.5.4(ish) for Collie |
| 07:50.26 | webmind | zach, you from the us ? |
| 07:50.33 | zach | yeah |
| 07:51.04 | webmind | guessed so :) |
| 07:51.12 | zach | Yeah... =) |
| 07:58.00 | *** join/#openzaurus Shdwdrgn (i=Picard@sourpuss.net) |
| 08:12.08 | *** join/#openzaurus Mark__ (n=mark@203-211-73-143.ue.woosh.co.nz) |
| 08:28.02 | *** join/#openzaurus mithro (n=tim@lester.mithis.com) |
| 08:45.28 | *** join/#openzaurus alan|home (n=alan@ARouen-152-1-91-59.w86-199.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 08:46.55 | alan|home | morning all |
| 08:46.58 | alan|home | hi XorA |
| 08:48.19 | webmind | you and many others :) |
| 08:48.29 | alan|home | hehe |
| 08:48.37 | webmind | -wait- |
| 08:48.42 | hrw|work | during weekend for 90% |
| 08:48.49 | webmind | nice |
| 08:48.58 | alan|home | great |
| 08:49.20 | alan|home | hrw|work: where do you want the result of sd card test to be sent ? |
| 08:49.46 | alan|home | ^^ |
| 08:50.14 | webmind | that and hack around with his phone |
| 08:50.21 | alan|home | (hrw|work: the test is OK, btw) |
| 08:50.30 | XorA | BTW I would advise everyone to not try the new gentoo installer :-) |
| 08:52.01 | NAbyss | XorA: That bad? |
| 08:52.21 | XorA | NAbyss: it re-wrote my partition table with every partition moved by a random amount |
| 08:52.29 | XorA | NAbyss: thank fuck for testdisk |
| 08:53.06 | NAbyss | Fucking hell.. that's insane. Where's the QA? |
| 08:53.25 | XorA | all I actually asked it to do was format / |
| 08:53.31 | NAbyss | BBIAB.. magic smoke just escaped from the switch. |
| 08:53.42 | XorA | the only other time someone did that it was win98 |
| 08:53.47 | hrw|work | alan|home: if test is OK then it is enough info for me |
| 08:56.47 | NAbyss | Back again. |
| 08:57.12 | alan|home | hrw|work: ok. |
| 09:00.02 | *** join/#openzaurus eumel (n=chatzill@p54830324.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 09:00.33 | CoreDump|home | morning |
| 09:04.40 | alan|home | hi CoreDump|home |
| 09:17.20 | *** join/#openzaurus mithro (n=tim@lester.mithis.com) |
| 09:21.28 | *** join/#openzaurus mithro (n=tim@lester.mithis.com) |
| 09:28.04 | XorA | crappit, I bet my CEO will try and bug me about a webserver on javacard today |
| 09:34.25 | *** join/#openzaurus Mudh0ney (n=Bryan@12-219-31-219.client.mchsi.com) |
| 09:53.33 | *** join/#openzaurus mithro (n=tim@lester.mithis.com) |
| 10:10.44 | *** join/#openzaurus richard2 (i=1000@tim.rpsys.net) |
| 10:16.23 | *** join/#openzaurus JiniDog (n=jini@Vac5f.v.pppool.de) |
| 10:37.34 | *** join/#openzaurus obergix[work] (n=olivier@mag77-1-82-238-13-91.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 10:39.35 | *** join/#openzaurus DataBeaver (n=tdb@YZMCXCV.dsl.saunalahti.fi) |
| 10:43.41 | *** join/#openzaurus zinga (n=arnaudb@186.80-203-227.nextgentel.com) |
| 10:48.35 | *** join/#openzaurus tirant (n=tirant@62-15-76-251.inversas.jazztel.es) |
| 11:15.28 | *** join/#openzaurus darkschneider (n=gab@213-140-6-96.ip.fastwebnet.it) |
| 11:16.05 | *** join/#openzaurus alan|xchat (n=alan@ARouen-152-1-28-221.w83-115.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 17:09.20 | *** join/#openzaurus ibot (i=ibot@pdpc/supporter/active/TimRiker/bot/apt) |
| 17:09.20 | *** topic/#openzaurus is OpenZaurus user discussion/support channel | developer discussion in #oe | http://openzaurus.sf.net/ | Don't ask to ask, just ask. | Current release: 3.5.3 | Report OZ bugs at http://bugs.treke.net/ |
| 17:14.19 | *** join/#openzaurus mrz80 (i=1000@caledonia.cns.ufl.edu) |
| 17:23.51 | *** join/#openzaurus George_ (i=authdeni@vm.gwright.org.uk) |
| 17:28.27 | *** join/#openzaurus pleemans (n=peter@d54C24BC0.access.telenet.be) |
| 17:29.30 | *** join/#openzaurus George (i=authdeni@vm.gwright.org.uk) |
| 18:01.26 | *** join/#openzaurus DataBeaver (i=tdb@YZMCXCV.dsl.saunalahti.fi) |
| 18:07.06 | alan|home | may i remind everyone that a graphical contest was launched on openzaurus.org. There is only one candidate for now, and i don't really like what he did... will anyone else try ? |
| 18:31.20 | *** join/#openzaurus tchan (n=tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan) |
| 18:46.59 | *** join/#openzaurus hwtechnik (n=hwtechni@80.78.239.70) |
| 18:55.21 | *** join/#openzaurus George (i=authdeni@vm.gwright.org.uk) |
| 19:02.43 | *** join/#openzaurus George (i=authdeni@vm.gwright.org.uk) |
| 19:25.08 | *** join/#openzaurus George_ (i=authdeni@vm.gwright.org.uk) |
| 19:31.10 | *** join/#openzaurus George__ (i=authdeni@vm.gwright.org.uk) |
| 19:31.44 | *** join/#openzaurus _law_ (n=_law_@213.173.86.202) |
| 19:39.04 | *** join/#openzaurus George__ (i=authdeni@vm.gwright.org.uk) |
| 19:45.08 | *** join/#openzaurus George__ (i=authdeni@vm.gwright.org.uk) |
| 19:45.22 | *** join/#openzaurus George_ (i=authdeni@vm.gwright.org.uk) |
| 19:48.46 | *** join/#openzaurus neil_m (n=voldemor@neilmathers.co.uk) |
| 19:50.26 | champ | what does the winner get? |
| 19:50.33 | *** join/#openzaurus George (i=authdeni@vm.gwright.org.uk) |
| 19:51.59 | neil_m | killed |
| 20:06.05 | zach | Sweet deal! |
| 20:06.51 | zach | Actually, I have a friend that's an artist, I may see if I can get him to draw submit something |
| 20:07.06 | zach | draw something, and submit* |
| 20:07.23 | zach | Boy, I jumbled that one good |
| 20:17.16 | *** join/#openzaurus guillermo_ (n=guillerm@dslb-084-062-141-227.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 20:42.49 | *** join/#openzaurus mithro (n=tim@lester.mithis.com) |
| 20:47.32 | *** part/#openzaurus _law_ (n=_law_@213.173.86.202) |
| 21:05.13 | *** join/#openzaurus Jason_Foss (i=jason@d-ip-129-15-78-96.cs.ou.edu) |
| 21:05.18 | Jason_Foss | Hey. |
| 21:07.33 | Jason_Foss | Does anyone in here have access to, or could make for me, an image of the OZ 3.5.4 for an SL-C1000 / SL-C3100? |
| 21:31.28 | JustinP | Jason_Foss: wait for the release |
| 21:34.26 | JustinP | Jason_Foss: then again, I don't think Cxx00 are going to have releases for 3.5.4. They'll be released for 3.5.4.1 with 2.6 kernels |
| 21:56.45 | *** join/#openzaurus Troglodyt (n=KevinSpe@216.126.245.77) |
| 21:59.35 | *** join/#openzaurus REdOG (n=REdOG@66.0.161.218) |
| 21:59.46 | REdOG | is the sl-6000 big or little endian? |
| 22:12.12 | *** join/#openzaurus Geo_KM (n=keith@bh02i525f01.au.ibm.com) |
| 22:12.59 | tchan | sl-6000 uses a 400MHz PXA-255 X-Scale CPU, which is mostly little endian |
| 22:23.53 | *** join/#openzaurus champ (n=champ@216.85.238.67) |
| 22:30.33 | *** join/#openzaurus ljp (n=lpotter@203.94.178.46) |
| 22:33.19 | *** join/#openzaurus Timelord (n=TL@4.78.4.43) |
| 22:33.47 | *** join/#openzaurus champ_ (n=champ@216.85.238.67) |
| 22:34.17 | *** join/#openzaurus JiniDog (n=jini@Vb852.v.pppool.de) |
| 22:49.06 | CoreDump|home | hi |
| 23:02.41 | *** join/#openzaurus seva (i=seva@sevatech.com) |
| 23:03.50 | *** join/#openzaurus JustinP (i=papercra@c-67-174-226-161.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 23:20.27 | *** part/#openzaurus seva (i=seva@sevatech.com) |
| 23:36.31 | *** join/#openzaurus champ_ (n=champ@216.85.238.67) |
| 23:43.35 | *** join/#openzaurus chaoticz (n=chaoticz@81-208-60-197.ip.fastwebnet.it) |