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| 09:43.19 | alan|home | morning all |
| 09:43.27 | hrw|work | hi alan |
| 09:43.48 | alan|home | it's quiet here, these days... |
| 09:43.50 | XorA | hey alan|home |
| 09:43.58 | alan|home | the storm is coming... |
| 09:44.05 | alan|home | hey XorA, hrw|work |
| 09:45.49 | alan|home | hrw|work: how many images do you have to build for this release ? 3 for each model, right ? |
| 09:46.26 | hrw|work | alan|home: 0 for 0 models |
| 09:46.39 | alan|home | Oo ? |
| 09:46.46 | hrw|work | mickeyl do the build |
| 09:46.48 | hrw|work | brb |
| 09:47.23 | alan|home | yeah... by "you" i meant "you, oz team" ^^ |
| 09:56.22 | hrw|work | yes 3 for each |
| 09:56.27 | hrw|work | bootstrap/gpe/opie |
| 09:56.43 | hrw|work | probably also e will be but no support |
| 10:26.06 | alan|home | mmm... that makes something like 25 images to build... that is huge... |
| 10:26.28 | alan|home | oz team may need a compilation farm ^^ |
| 10:28.01 | alan|home | i have a Duron 800mhz cpu i could send... but without any motherboard, it is quite useless... |
| 10:31.04 | XorA | alan|home: need the nice amd people to donate some 4 way opterons overnight :-) |
| 10:32.29 | hrw|work | XorA: without multithreaded bitbake it is not the same... |
| 10:33.12 | XorA | hrw|work: I though bitbake support make -j though |
| 10:33.34 | XorA | hrw|work: and each machine build with ccache can run on a different cpu |
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| 10:33.49 | hrw|work | XorA: yes but that all configure/pacakge/fetch subtasks... |
| 10:35.49 | XorA | hrw|work: hmm, a prefetcher would be nice |
| 10:36.54 | hrw|work | it can be workarounded |
| 10:37.09 | hrw|work | bitbake -cfetch world in one shell;bitbake world in other |
| 11:26.24 | StarScream | hrw|work: is there a place to donate money on the OZ site ? |
| 11:26.49 | StarScream | we could all chip in to get some new hardware for you guys |
| 11:27.25 | hrw|work | StarScream: we prefer donations for developers not for project |
| 11:27.42 | hrw|work | http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/developers/ |
| 11:28.09 | hrw|work | Many people ask how to donate to OpenZaurus project. We decided to not keep one central account for it because arrangements are very complicated when you have a fluctuating group like the contributors to OpenZaurus. Not only do contributors come and go but they also contribute to varing degrees. And as soon as it comes to money, friendly relationships are endangered. In the end it?s not worth the hassle to split the money up. That?s why we set |
| 11:29.17 | StarScream | hrw|work: but surely for hardware purposes it would be better as a group..i.e we donate x$ for a new 4 way opteron server or what ever. that stays with the group regardless of who is there or who is not |
| 11:30.05 | hrw|work | StarScream: that kind of build machine need someone who will maintain it |
| 11:32.33 | hrw|work | to get buildmachine useful it would need rack space, net access, storage etc and I do not think that we (OZ) will ever get to that level of donations |
| 11:32.37 | StarScream | i think it just makes sense to have 1 group. for example if 3 people donate 20 pounds each to your self, another person donates some to mickey and some donate to chris. That means you've each got 60 quid which will probably buy you a good night out or maybe a 5500 on e-bay. but nothing substancial. Together though |
| 11:32.49 | StarScream | it would probably buy a new machine that would build stuff quicker |
| 11:33.33 | hrw|work | already we have some users working on getting poodle (5600) for OE/OZ team |
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| 11:42.40 | hrw|work | currently we build on dual Xeon and/or dual Opteron |
| 11:45.48 | alan|home | my internet connexion seems to have been repaired (i keep my finger crossed) : i have not been disconnected since more than 24 hours !! d(^^)b |
| 11:56.14 | alan|home | time to go to work |
| 11:56.16 | alan|home | bye all |
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| 12:02.43 | ewano | afternoon |
| 12:03.01 | hrw|work | hi ewan |
| 12:06.02 | hrw|work | read topic |
| 12:06.25 | hrw|work | images are created, feeds need some build work |
| 12:06.29 | ewano | ah ha |
| 12:07.08 | ewano | irssi cuts the topis off after 80cols, just did a /topic :) |
| 12:07.31 | hrw|work | irssi does not cut on 80cols |
| 12:08.03 | ewano | perhaps I should blame the current size of my terminal then |
| 12:08.12 | ewano | either way, the topic does not get wrapped |
| 12:08.40 | XorA | ewano: dont worry, I have same problem, and hrw|work always telling me off :-) |
| 12:08.50 | ewano | heh :) |
| 12:09.09 | hrw|work | default irssi config show full topic on join ;) |
| 12:09.38 | ewano | it does, but then it scrolls past when it shows the list of people in the room; hardly useful |
| 12:11.17 | hrw|work | I have PgUp/PgDn on keyboard ;) |
| 12:11.21 | hrw|work | even on Z |
| 12:17.25 | StarScream | hrw|work: did you end up adding altboot or something similar to 3.5.4 on the 5500's ? |
| 12:17.45 | hrw|work | yes |
| 12:17.54 | hrw|work | altboot 1.0.5 by default on collie |
| 12:17.58 | StarScream | brilliant |
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| 12:38.53 | XorA | hrw|work: as your a super genius, is it possible to export a static html version of blog from wordpress? |
| 12:40.18 | hrw|work | XorA: browser 'save page' function is not enough? |
| 12:41.09 | XorA | hrw|work: was hoping for a simpler html dump, similar to a lot of wiki's publish function |
| 12:41.49 | hrw|work | XorA: run wget/puf/httrack on it |
| 12:46.45 | XorA | hrw|work: ahah, I dump all the articles out of rss and a quick munge |
| 14:02.47 | hrw|work | NOTE: package zbedic-0.9.9+1.0rc1-r1: task do_build: completed |
| 14:02.59 | hrw|work | someone with .dev/opie or 3.5.4-test/opie? |
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| 16:04.38 | XorA | decided rather than scrap wordpress Id make myself happy by changing the theme |
| 16:06.21 | hrw|work | ;) |
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| 16:15.29 | XorA | now I look into it I quite like the WP themes |
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| 16:50.56 | kados | hrw|work: any response from iodata yet? |
| 16:51.01 | hrw|work | no |
| 16:51.13 | kados | too bad ... |
| 16:51.20 | kados | maybe they've gone out of business :-) |
| 16:51.36 | hrw|work | kados: I will probably get it build anyway |
| 16:51.46 | kados | that would be excellent |
| 16:51.59 | hrw|work | mirror app need resizing from qvga to scalable? |
| 16:52.10 | kados | yea, that'd be a nice feature |
| 16:52.27 | kados | it would be sweet if you could specify an output size |
| 16:52.59 | kados | not sure if the little Z could handle that though :-) |
| 16:53.00 | hrw|work | that card can do 1024x768 iirc |
| 16:53.07 | kados | ahh ... is that the maz |
| 16:53.10 | kados | max even |
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| 16:53.29 | kados | that'd be quite a load on the zaurus I think |
| 16:53.30 | hrw|work | brb |
| 16:53.34 | kados | but still it'd be cool |
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| 16:59.52 | hrw|work | re |
| 17:00.07 | hrw|work | resolution change can be hard |
| 17:00.24 | kados | I'd imagine it would be |
| 17:00.40 | kados | need to restart X normally IIRC |
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| 17:31.03 | kados | how can i get a usb keyboard working with oz? I've got it plugged in and dmesg reports: |
| 17:31.18 | kados | huh ... it just started working :-) |
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| 18:26.40 | *** topic/#openzaurus is OpenZaurus user discussion/support channel | developer discussion in #oe | http://www.openzaurus.org/ | Don't ask to ask, just ask. | Current release: 3.5.3 | Report OZ bugs at http://bugs.openembedded.org/ | 3.5.4 expected on 2006.03.20 |
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| 21:05.10 | hrw | kados: ping |
| 21:05.23 | kados | hrw: yo |
| 21:05.27 | hrw | Packaged contents of cfvga into /home/hrw/devel/build/oz354-prefinal/tmp/deploy/ipk/cfvga-2.4.18-rmk7-pxa3-embedix_1.0-r0_poodle.ipk |
| 21:05.35 | hrw | kados: you have tosa iirc? |
| 21:05.38 | kados | yep |
| 21:05.44 | kados | sweet |
| 21:05.55 | kados | shall I test it? |
| 21:06.05 | hrw | will give you it in a minute(s) |
| 21:06.12 | kados | k |
| 21:07.22 | hrw | http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/t/cfvga-2.4.18-rmk7-pxa3-embedix_1.0-r0_tosa.ipk |
| 21:07.31 | hrw | do a test |
| 21:08.02 | kados | k ... sec |
| 21:10.23 | hrw | ok |
| 21:11.16 | kados | hrw: should I install via command line or with the package manager |
| 21:11.17 | kados | ? |
| 21:11.36 | hrw | "ipkg install http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/t/cfvga-2.4.18-rmk7-pxa3-embedix_1.0-r0_tosa.ipk" will be enough |
| 21:12.02 | kados | k ... |
| 21:12.24 | kados | Configuring cfvga-2.4.18-rmk7-pxa3-embedix |
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| 21:12.54 | kados | demod *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18-rmk7-pxa-embedix/wlan-ng/prism2_pci.o |
| 21:13.05 | hrw | ignore that for now |
| 21:13.07 | kados | demod *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18-rmk7-pxa-embedix/wlan-ng/prism2_plx.o |
| 21:13.11 | kados | ok |
| 21:13.12 | hrw | that too |
| 21:13.29 | kados | I need to restart opie now? |
| 21:13.38 | hrw | insert cfxga card, show me 'cardctl ident' output |
| 21:13.43 | hrw | kados: no need |
| 21:13.52 | kados | k |
| 21:14.06 | hrw | mirroring tool will be next |
| 21:14.58 | kados | I get a PCMCIA/CF Subsystem alert |
| 21:15.07 | kados | 'card is not configure, do you want to configure now?' |
| 21:15.08 | hrw | ok that it does not know card |
| 21:15.16 | kados | yes or no? |
| 21:15.18 | hrw | you want - set 'activate/activate' |
| 21:15.28 | kados | done |
| 21:15.45 | kados | cardctl ident |
| 21:15.48 | kados | Socket 0: |
| 21:15.53 | kados | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:15.55 | kados | Socket 1: |
| 21:16.00 | kados | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:16.04 | hrw | ;( |
| 21:16.08 | kados | (not very helpful I'm afraid) |
| 21:16.38 | hrw | in dmesg there was any infos? |
| 21:16.39 | kados | in the cardctl plugin it is listed as 'anonymous memory' |
| 21:17.10 | kados | pxa_pcmcia init(0) |
| 21:17.19 | kados | <<<<< Init_Module PASS >>> |
| 21:17.30 | kados | is all I see |
| 21:18.03 | hrw | ok will look into module sources |
| 21:18.11 | kados | hrw: should it be plugged into a monitor for the test? |
| 21:18.16 | kados | hrw: (probably not) |
| 21:19.03 | hrw | I never even saw that card |
| 21:21.14 | kados | no difference with a monitor plugged in |
| 21:22.04 | hrw | did you used it before under sharprom? |
| 21:22.08 | kados | yes |
| 21:22.13 | kados | but not on tosa |
| 21:22.18 | kados | only on my 5500 |
| 21:22.26 | hrw | can you do a test on collie? |
| 21:22.33 | hrw | I can build module |
| 21:22.46 | kados | yes, but I first need to find my collie :-) |
| 21:22.49 | hrw | ok |
| 21:22.55 | kados | maybe tonight? |
| 21:22.58 | kados | (in a few hours) |
| 21:23.11 | kados | if you build it and tell me the link I'll let you know my results tomorrow |
| 21:23.26 | kados | is that ok? |
| 21:23.43 | hrw | yes |
| 21:25.14 | hrw | check http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/t/ from time to time for kernel-module-memory-cs-2.4.18-rmk7-pxa3-embedix_0708-r0_collie.ipk |
| 21:25.21 | hrw | apache died on that machine |
| 21:27.26 | hrw | ipkg install http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/t/kernel-module-memory-cs-2.4.18-rmk7-pxa3-embedix_0708-r0_collie.ipk |
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| 21:37.14 | hrw | kados: ipkg install http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/t/qpe-presenter_0708-r0_arm.ipk |
| 21:43.24 | hrw | kados: I can build cfxgamirror also |
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| 21:45.33 | kados | hrw: ok ... I will be off work in about 15 minutes |
| 21:45.54 | hrw | ok |
| 21:46.18 | hrw | do you have remote for it? |
| 21:47.13 | kados | I can ssh into it |
| 21:47.28 | kados | I also have a keyboard I can plug in now (usb) |
| 21:47.44 | hrw | remote for cfxga card |
| 21:47.49 | kados | ahh ... you mean remote for cfxga |
| 21:47.52 | kados | yes, somewhere I have it |
| 21:47.59 | hrw | ipkg install http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/t/cfxgamirror_1.0-r0_arm.ipk |
| 21:48.01 | kados | but probably the battery is long dead :-) |
| 21:48.15 | hrw | http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=3973&hl=cfxga |
| 21:48.18 | hrw | ok |
| 21:48.21 | kados | hrw: should I uninstall the previous one? |
| 21:49.04 | hrw | you already has cfxgamirror? |
| 21:49.46 | kados | no ... sorry |
| 21:49.48 | hrw | or w8 - I'll rename it to cfxga-tools |
| 21:49.51 | kados | I missunderstood |
| 21:50.34 | hrw | ipkg install http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/t/cfxga-tools_1.0-r0_arm.ipk (it contain cfxgamirror and irtest for remote) |
| 21:52.18 | hrw | ok. currently I built: |
| 21:52.37 | hrw | cfvga-2.4.18-rmk7-pxa3-embedix_1.0-r0_tosa.ipk + [ ] kernel-module-memory-cs-2.4.18-rmk7-pxa3-embedix_0708-r0_collie.ipk which contain memory_cs driver |
| 21:52.49 | hrw | qpe-presenter_0708-r0_arm.ipk which is 'Mirroring' tool from iodata |
| 21:53.07 | hrw | cfxga-tools_1.0-r0_arm.ipk which contain cfxgamirror + irtest utils |
| 22:06.05 | kados | hrw: ok ... off work now |
| 22:06.16 | kados | so ... what should I install? |
| 22:06.29 | kados | ipkg install http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/t/cfxga-tools_1.0-r0_arm.ipk |
| 22:06.34 | kados | will do both? |
| 22:06.43 | kados | mirror and irtest? |
| 22:06.53 | hrw | yes |
| 22:08.20 | hrw | cfxgamirror started without args should show available modes (if it find a card) |
| 22:08.44 | hrw | hm.. it looks for /dev/cfxga0a |
| 22:09.47 | kados | ok ... installed |
| 22:10.55 | kados | # cfxgamirror |
| 22:10.55 | kados | usage: cfxgamirror [mode] |
| 22:10.55 | kados | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:10.55 | kados | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:10.56 | kados | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:11.04 | kados | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:11.04 | kados | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:11.04 | kados | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:11.04 | kados | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:11.04 | kados | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:11.05 | hrw | works ;) |
| 22:11.06 | kados | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:11.09 | kados | yep :-) |
| 22:11.14 | kados | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:11.14 | kados | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:11.14 | kados | 10: W=640 H=480 vf=0 d=16 hf=17734 vid=44 |
| 22:11.16 | kados | 11: W=800 H=572 vf=0 d=16 hf=17734 vid=44 |
| 22:11.18 | kados | w00t |
| 22:11.33 | hrw | try one of them |
| 22:11.51 | kados | ha ... working sort of |
| 22:11.59 | kados | well it is displaying on the monitor |
| 22:12.02 | kados | but unreadablbe |
| 22:12.08 | kados | and side-ways |
| 22:12.10 | kados | I tried mode 0 |
| 22:12.12 | hrw | tosa or collie? |
| 22:12.33 | kados | tosa |
| 22:12.58 | kados | same with mode 3 |
| 22:16.38 | hrw | can you install qpe-presenter and test it? |
| 22:16.54 | kados | where is it? |
| 22:17.32 | hrw | same place as rest |
| 22:18.23 | kados | installed ... do I need to restart opie now? |
| 22:18.28 | kados | (no icon shows up |
| 22:18.38 | hrw | use settings/reload icons |
| 22:18.41 | hrw | or restart opie |
| 22:19.21 | kados | when I click on 'presentation' nothing happens |
| 22:19.29 | hrw | hm w8 |
| 22:20.32 | hrw | heh.. it looks like it is another cli command ;( |
| 22:22.45 | kados | when I type 'presenter' I get: |
| 22:22.52 | kados | usage: presenter count |
| 22:23.06 | kados | presenter 1 just exits |
| 22:23.07 | hrw | give it 50000 |
| 22:23.11 | kados | ok |
| 22:23.22 | hrw | its microseconds or sth like that |
| 22:23.27 | kados | nothing happens |
| 22:23.33 | kados | wait |
| 22:23.35 | kados | I'm wrong |
| 22:23.40 | kados | it is showing up on the screen |
| 22:23.57 | kados | resolution is quite strange though :-) |
| 22:24.30 | hrw | api for this is simple |
| 22:25.04 | kados | could you teach me? :-) |
| 22:25.15 | kados | then I can tweak it until it looks perfect :-) |
| 22:25.19 | hrw | http://www.iodata.com/usa/support/downloads/CFXGA_API_SPEC.txt is whole API doc |
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| 22:26.29 | hrw | I can try to build http://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?release_id=294479&group_id=104103 |
| 22:27.22 | kados | sure |
| 22:27.49 | kados | hrw: is there a way to specify the resolution in the presenter program? |
| 22:27.57 | kados | hrw: asside from re-compiling? |
| 22:30.22 | hrw | currently its hardcoded to qvga |
| 22:31.17 | kados | that would explain why with the tosa it is showing up in top-left of a monitor all munged together |
| 22:32.39 | kados | hrw: how hard would it be to add a feature to pick a resolution before starting? |
| 22:33.13 | hrw | not hard but not today - its 23:32 here |
| 22:33.16 | kados | (I've read over the API but I have no C experience except for a few hello world examples) :-) |
| 22:33.25 | kados | ok |
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| 22:59.10 | kados | An error ocurred, return value: 1. |
| 22:59.10 | kados | Collected errors: |
| 22:59.11 | kados | ipkg_download: ERROR: Command failed with return value 1: `wget --passive-ftp -q -P /tmp/ipkg-An0Mwc http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/mirror/www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.4-test5/feed/opie/Packages.gz' |
| 22:59.29 | hrw | you got bad feeds |
| 22:59.34 | kados | ahh |
| 22:59.57 | kados | what should I have? |
| 23:00.04 | hrw | ipkg install http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/mirror/www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.3/feed/opie/sharp-compat-libs_0.5-r2_arm.ipk |
| 23:00.13 | kados | k |
| 23:01.14 | kados | it has dependency of opie-sh |
| 23:01.35 | hrw | ipkg install http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/mirror/www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.3/feed/opie/opie-sh_1.2.0-r0_arm.ipk |
| 23:01.37 | kados | is there a proper list of feeds i should be using? |
| 23:02.04 | hrw | http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/oz3.5.4-test-images/test5/feed/all-feed.conf |
| 23:02.09 | kados | thanks |
| 23:03.17 | hrw | then you should get new icon in settings: 'Libraries' - click it, select 'from list', then 'applications', 'imageviewer' (or how does that closed source app is called) |
| 23:05.37 | kados | hrw: what unzip utility is in busybox? |
| 23:05.45 | kados | 'unzip' doesn't work for .zip files |
| 23:07.55 | hrw | never checked |
| 23:08.06 | kados | sorry, unzip should work, but doesn't seem to exist |
| 23:08.31 | hrw | then install it |
| 23:08.56 | kados | doesn't exist on the feed it seems |
| 23:09.00 | kados | it should be included in busybox |
| 23:09.06 | hrw | then get it from 3.5.3 |
| 23:09.20 | hrw | no - I removed it from busybox as we have full version in feed |
| 23:09.25 | kados | ahh |
| 23:09.45 | hrw | no need for rarely used tools which take precious flash space |
| 23:11.19 | kados | hrw: do you remember where it is? |
| 23:11.27 | hrw | no |
| 23:11.33 | hrw | cant you unpack archive on desktop? |
| 23:13.20 | kados | found it |
| 23:13.35 | kados | hmmm ... it's a .zip file |
| 23:13.38 | kados | maybe i can |
| 23:14.24 | hrw | time to go sleep |
| 23:14.27 | hrw | cu |
| 23:14.38 | kados | bye, thanks for the help |
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