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| 00:30.38 | Radiance | i'm going to try a totally different AP, just to see if it is really related |
| 00:31.31 | webmind | sounds odd... can't say I've tested my tosa with wireless on 3.5.4 yet |
| 00:31.53 | webmind | hm |
| 00:32.00 | webmind | well a little last weekend |
| 00:32.05 | webmind | worked ok then |
| 00:35.01 | Radiance | webmind, longer than 10 to 15 min ? |
| 00:35.12 | Radiance | without having it suspend all by itself ? hehe |
| 00:42.59 | webmind | I'm not sure for how long |
| 00:43.04 | webmind | hmm |
| 00:43.13 | webmind | yes definatly longer |
| 00:43.39 | webmind | quite a while.. I remember doing some tweaking over ssh over wireless on it |
| 00:44.29 | webmind | but I have noticed apm problems.. but those could in theory be cause due a broken SD card.. or a bug in the sdio |
| 00:44.32 | webmind | not sure |
| 00:44.45 | webmind | or just actual apm bugs but I doubt that kinda |
| 00:44.52 | Radiance | might be the AP |
| 00:45.00 | Radiance | but i'll test this one first |
| 00:46.05 | webmind | the AP putting your tosa on standby ? |
| 00:46.17 | webmind | that would be odd and a bug I think? |
| 00:47.46 | Radiance | well, i dunno, just gonna test if it makes any difference |
| 00:47.51 | Radiance | will use a linksys ap now |
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| 01:02.25 | webmind | ok |
| 01:29.38 | webmind | darn.. my cradle doesn't seem to be working |
| 01:29.49 | webmind | awell tomorrow yet another day |
| 01:30.43 | Radiance | didn't touch that part yet :) |
| 01:31.00 | Radiance | had to dig up another ap linksys since i couldn't reconfigure the current one |
| 01:40.04 | webmind | awell.. gnite |
| 01:54.56 | Radiance | night mate hehe |
| 02:15.40 | Radiance | btw, any one noticed that backspace/del or ctrl-h is not working on the console ? (only if the virtual keyboard is used it works ofcourse) |
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| 02:56.34 | Radiance | guys, i noticed after working a while in the console that the keyboard locks up |
| 02:56.42 | Radiance | i can only use the virtual keyboard |
| 02:57.05 | Radiance | but the hardware keyboard freezes totally in the console and any app |
| 02:57.22 | Radiance | this is 3.5.4 on a sl-6000 |
| 03:00.13 | Cyorxamp | Anyone in here have a broken SL-5500? (maybe the screen is broke)... I need a replacement main (PCB) board |
| 03:01.53 | Radiance | another note, keyboard doesn't respond after suspend/resume, when defining a second wifi alias then it comes up but dhcp doesn't work for it, have to enter it manually |
| 03:02.35 | Radiance | shutdown works only with using usbctl off 1 in the above scenario |
| 03:03.05 | Radiance | gotta go get some sleep now |
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| 08:05.32 | webmind | Radiance, did it lock up after pressing Fn + / |
| 08:05.34 | webmind | ? |
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| 09:37.06 | ProfessorOhki | I just installed Opie on my 6000L, trying to get wellenreiter to run, i need to use a .patch to update stuff, how does one use a .patch file? |
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| 09:43.21 | Radiance | webmind, it locks up at random moments |
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| 09:52.50 | webmind | odd |
| 09:53.50 | webmind | Radiance, are you using gpe or opie ? |
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| 11:44.35 | CoreDump|home | morning |
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| 13:06.30 | alan|home | morning averyone |
| 13:08.46 | CoreDump|home | hello alan|home |
| 13:11.19 | alan|home | hello CoreDump|home |
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| 13:24.28 | neil_m | anyone use OpenBSD on their C3000 |
| 13:32.29 | alan|home | neil_m: excuse me, but i don't think you'll find such a person on this chan... mainly for OZ users... |
| 13:32.51 | alan|home | have a try at #zaurus |
| 13:34.07 | neil_m | doh |
| 13:34.08 | neil_m | thanks |
| 13:34.09 | neil_m | :D |
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| 15:07.10 | Radiance | webmind, it's opie |
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| 16:10.06 | Radiance | think i'll try gpe cause without a reliable keyboard it's not really useful |
| 16:13.36 | Radiance | just for the record, with the previous release i had never this problem hehe |
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| 17:09.28 | Radiance | flashing to gpe now :) |
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| 17:14.14 | Radiance | is it normal that the gpe 2.7 splash screen stays for a long time there ? loading ? |
| 17:15.02 | CoreDump|home | yes |
| 17:15.18 | Radiance | ah ok |
| 17:15.19 | CoreDump|home | it is configuring your apps in the background on first boot |
| 17:15.25 | Radiance | i see it proceeds now ... |
| 17:19.59 | Radiance | looks promising ;0 |
| 17:20.00 | Radiance | :) |
| 17:20.13 | Radiance | any known issues with gpe 3.5.4 currently ? |
| 17:23.21 | CoreDump|home | never tried the 3.5.4 images sorry |
| 17:30.13 | Radiance | ah ok |
| 17:30.17 | Radiance | trying gpe now heh |
| 17:30.34 | Radiance | feels familiar compared to opie |
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| 17:42.33 | kados | anyone using the opie calendar as a part of an enterprise calendaring system? |
| 17:42.58 | kados | I'm wondering whether you can sync it with any of the web-based open-source group calendar systems |
| 18:14.34 | Radiance | hm, if i set an alarm, should it work while the unit is suspended ? |
| 18:17.02 | CoreDump|home | it should yes |
| 18:19.58 | Radiance | well, it didn't hehe |
| 18:20.12 | Radiance | the alarm went off only after i unsuspended the unit |
| 18:21.43 | Radiance | i'll try again just to be sure |
| 18:27.20 | Radiance | nope didn't work |
| 18:27.32 | Radiance | only after i unsuspend the unit then the alarm goes off |
| 18:28.46 | Radiance | my 50 bucks cellphone when shutdown even has this functionality lol |
| 18:42.33 | Radiance | well, to summarize it: opie: keyboard locks at random time, need full reboot/shutdown to make it work again, wifi setup doesn't work (only through manual setup in console). GPE(maybe also opie), same wifi issue, alarm doesn't work when unit is suspended, unit sleep config doesn't work when set to sleep at x time, manual suspend needed. That's currently what i discovered for release 3.5.4 on a 6000. |
| 18:46.16 | kados | Radiance: I can confirm that |
| 18:46.23 | kados | Radiance: on my sl-6000 it's the same |
| 18:46.33 | kados | Radiance: consider donating some $$ to one of the core developers |
| 18:46.44 | kados | Radiance: i did that recently to get something I wanted fixed done |
| 18:47.11 | pgas | is this with 2.4 kernel? |
| 18:48.43 | pgas | there is a kernel patch for resume on alarm for 6000 in this thread http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=16617 |
| 18:48.56 | pgas | don't know if this applies to oz |
| 19:00.02 | Radiance | kados, i donated like 400 $ a while back |
| 19:00.17 | Radiance | so i think that's more than the average joe who doesn't donate shit |
| 19:01.26 | Radiance | specifically for the 6000 development, so it can be used in a business environment, so the least which can be done is to fix these stupid things like the alarm, wifi menu :-) |
| 19:02.45 | Radiance | without the basic functionality of the average pda this is one expensive brick, which is only useful for ppl who have seas of time to play with it instead of using it |
| 19:04.12 | Radiance | you know how old the wifi issue is ? it's like a year or 2 years and it still has not been fixed |
| 19:05.00 | Radiance | so why should i donate more if i simply can't use it normally after all this time of development ? hehe |
| 19:06.40 | Radiance | i really like the 3.5.4 release compared to the previous ones, but the key is basic pda functions should work perfect like the alarm, suspend, wifi, if some app doesn't work well that's no biggy, but the basic functions must work before it can be used. hehe |
| 19:07.38 | Radiance | maybe it would be interesting to setup a forum where all current issue's for 3.5.4 are put after being checked, then let ppl donate to get them all fixed :) |
| 19:08.11 | Radiance | make it a stable and reliable release so whatever happens in newer releases, ppl can always fall back to this release |
| 19:33.56 | kados | that's a good idea |
| 19:34.14 | kados | I've been 'waiting' for OZ to stabalize enough to be usable for years too |
| 19:34.24 | kados | I pretty much just gave up |
| 19:34.47 | kados | the biggest problem IMO is there isn't a large enough user base |
| 19:42.58 | Radiance | else it has no use to keep releasing new versions but not one single of them is usable in a serious environment |
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| 20:10.27 | Radiance | so lets start with 100 $, any one who can fix the above problems gets it. A partner of mine has also a 6000, and we both together give 100 $ to get those fixed :) |
| 20:11.34 | kados | heh |
| 20:11.40 | kados | hrw|gone: you around? |
| 20:11.53 | kados | hrw|gone: dev work for hire :-) |
| 20:17.30 | ljp | thats only 6 hours work :) |
| 20:18.22 | kados | $100 in poland goes a long way :-) |
| 20:19.13 | ljp | hehe |
| 20:23.18 | Radiance | so if any one can, just msg me in private, i will spend more if more issue's come up, need either this thing to work as it was meant or sell it and get some other thing hehe |
| 20:23.19 | Radiance | brb |
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| 21:35.29 | CoreDump|home | what's the trick to unmute alsa in 3.5.4.1? |
| 21:42.13 | NA|Gone | CoreDump|home: Run alsamixer, then unmute left mixer/right mixer |
| 21:42.30 | NA|Gone | CoreDump|home: Also, if you're using headphones, you'll probably want to turn Out1 down to about 70. |
| 21:42.36 | CoreDump|home | well, it won't let me |
| 21:42.47 | NA|Gone | Hm, what happens? |
| 21:43.24 | CoreDump|home | i can unmute left+right mixer but can raisethe setting from 00 |
| 21:43.50 | NAbyss | Yeah, l/r mixer are only mute/unmute |
| 21:44.01 | NAbyss | Look for a different setting, left output 1 or something |
| 21:44.09 | NAbyss | Should be about 5-7 items to the right of left mixer |
| 21:44.33 | CoreDump|home | doh, checking |
| 21:46.49 | NAbyss | Same goes for the right channel |
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| 22:28.45 | dhr | naive question: if the 6000 alarm fix is as reported in http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=16617 in mid December, how come it isn't in 3.5.4? |
| 22:29.58 | dhr | Ah. Perhaps because that is a pdaXrom forum. How should this be communicated to the OZ developers? |
| 22:32.34 | dhr | I guess someone should report this in http://bugs.openembedded.org . I'll go look. Hmmm. OZ 3.5.4 isn't a possible version according to this bugzilla -- stops at 3.5.3 |
| 22:53.01 | dhr | Hmm. Now I see a 2006 Feb 20 report. I wonder why my previous search failed. I will add the pdaXrom forum link. |
| 22:54.40 | Radiance | what's this pdaXrom btw ? |
| 22:54.46 | Radiance | is it any better ? heh |
| 22:55.38 | dhr | You try it and tell me :-). I've not actually used my 6000 for a long time. Waiting and hoping for reasonable software but too lazy to make it happen. |
| 22:56.02 | dhr | BTW, the bug report is here: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=711 |
| 22:57.46 | dhr | Radiance: I've just updated it, based on what you said in this channel. See if you agree. |
| 22:58.57 | dhr | Hmm. my comment does not show up. I wonder why. Not like other bugzillas I've used. |
| 22:59.53 | dhr | Oh, now it does. This system seems to want to make a liar out of me :-) |
| 22:59.57 | Radiance | maybe a delay hehe |
| 23:00.01 | Radiance | lol |
| 23:00.45 | dhr | you will also want to look at http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=698 |
| 23:01.34 | dhr | If things are working the way they should, this is a good way for you to report problems to developers. |
| 23:02.06 | dhr | Your experience with wireless on 6000 with the released 3.5.4 should be added to this bug report. |
| 23:02.25 | Radiance | http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=16617 it says something about a solution for the alarm, reading further.. |
| 23:03.06 | dhr | yes, I said that in my addition to 711 |
| 23:03.15 | Radiance | yeah i got it from there |
| 23:03.16 | Radiance | :) |
| 23:05.03 | dhr | I got it from the IRC log, pgas said so, to you about 30 hours ago (13:48 EST). |
| 23:06.08 | dhr | I cannot tell if the fix directly applies to OZ. But it should be a strong hint towards a solution. |
| 23:08.28 | Radiance | yeah the code is clear but it's not for oz |
| 23:08.59 | Radiance | i'm going to read up on this pdaXrom or so |
| 23:09.34 | dhr | I'd say "please report back" but I guess that this is the wrong channel :-( |
| 23:11.43 | dhr | maybe #zaurus is better. #pdaxrom has one person (other than me -- I just joined to test). |
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| 23:37.21 | Radiance | looks like the keyboard lock up bug is already reported here: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=763 |
| 23:37.55 | Radiance | so the keyboard lockup bug, alarm bug, wifi on suspend/unsuspend bug are already reported |
| 23:38.16 | Radiance | i guess it's now waiting for a solution |