00:08.02 | levi | Gah. I've still had no luck getting my Z to boot. |
00:34.40 | eccerr0r | how does opie handle out-of-memory situations normally anyway? |
00:42.40 | eccerr0r | I feared that much, it does nothing :) |
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01:03.45 | galvAtr0n | levi have you checked if there is a system maintenance menu to see if there is a nand option ??? |
01:06.54 | galvAtr0n | try this not sure if it works on 5500 |
01:06.55 | galvAtr0n | <PROTECTED> |
01:06.56 | galvAtr0n | Be careful in the DIAG menu as you can quite easily total your nice Zaurus. First of all make sure the back cover is unlocked and not present, the battery is removed and there's no AC power then wait 5 seconds. Then, while in this stripped down state, open up the display fully and support it with your left hand, then with your right hand place your first 2 fingers on D and M respectively while using your thumb underneath to |
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07:47.13 | CoreDump|home | morning |
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08:29.30 | matthew_i | what is the proper procedure for installing with an sd root on 3.5.4 |
08:29.47 | matthew_i | I have followed all the steps up to the rboot step |
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08:35.55 | CoreDump|home | rboot is deprecated. 3.5.4 brings all required bits for root on SD / CF / NFS out of the box |
08:37.02 | matthew_i | CoreDump|home: what do I have to do |
08:37.09 | matthew_i | I have a disk image setup and mounted on the sd |
08:38.37 | CoreDump|home | so a loop-image it is. rename the image to $someName-rootfs.bin and copy it to /media/card/boot-images/ |
08:39.05 | CoreDump|home | reboot, launch altboot, select "Boot from SD", done |
08:39.34 | matthew_i | CoreDump|home: I don't need to make any files it it? |
08:39.38 | matthew_i | CoreDump|home: awesome! |
08:39.42 | CoreDump|home | wait |
08:39.59 | CoreDump|home | I tought your loop-file was already populated |
08:40.10 | matthew_i | CoreDump|home: nope, just formatted and created |
08:40.15 | matthew_i | how do I populate? |
08:40.16 | CoreDump|home | ah =) |
08:40.29 | CoreDump|home | that one's pretty easy, too |
08:40.46 | CoreDump|home | download a tar.gz rootfs from the tarballs/ directory |
08:40.56 | CoreDump|home | place it on SD / CF and reboot |
08:41.22 | CoreDump|home | launch altboot, select Advanced/tar.gz installer, follow the instructions |
08:42.31 | matthew_i | so I can get rid of the image I created? |
08:42.40 | matthew_i | do I put the rootfs in the image? |
08:42.44 | matthew_i | or just on the card? |
08:43.06 | CoreDump|home | you can delete your old image |
08:43.12 | matthew_i | eh? |
08:43.23 | matthew_i | I have a fresh image on the sd card |
08:43.27 | CoreDump|home | the tar.gz installer will create a new image with the content of the tar.gz file |
08:43.28 | matthew_i | it is empty |
08:43.42 | matthew_i | so erase the fresh image and just place that tarball on the sd? |
08:43.49 | CoreDump|home | indeed |
08:43.59 | CoreDump|home | the installer will do the rest |
08:44.40 | matthew_i | do I need to name it special or anything? |
08:44.51 | CoreDump|home | hmm, let me check |
08:45.15 | matthew_i | should I reflash and select the advanced option on first boot? |
08:45.42 | CoreDump|home | no need to reflash |
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08:46.00 | CoreDump|home | the tar.gz's filename must end in "rootfs.tar.gz" |
08:46.11 | matthew_i | ok |
08:48.16 | matthew_i | sweet!! |
08:48.30 | matthew_i | is loop or direct better? |
08:48.41 | matthew_i | well imagefile/direct |
08:48.53 | CoreDump|home | I'd go for loop, easier to backup |
08:49.06 | CoreDump|home | and you can have multiple loop-images on the same card |
08:49.17 | matthew_i | I usually just reflash, and I don't anticipate having multiple images |
08:49.43 | matthew_i | is that the only difference between loop and direct? |
08:50.04 | matthew_i | (one is a loop, the other is direct :)? |
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08:50.25 | CoreDump|home | well direct means that your card will be populated with a real filesystem (/bin /etc etc) |
08:50.36 | matthew_i | I don't have a problem with that |
08:50.40 | CoreDump|home | http://hentges.net/tmp/screenshots/Zaurus/Akita/Altboot/altboot-3.jpg |
08:51.01 | CoreDump|home | you can have direct and multiple loop-images on the same card anyways =) |
08:51.07 | matthew_i | ok |
08:51.10 | matthew_i | im going direct |
08:51.44 | matthew_i | this installer is sweet |
08:51.49 | CoreDump|home | =) |
08:51.57 | matthew_i | hopefully 3.5.4 will be more stable than 3.5.3 |
08:52.01 | CoreDump|home | it is |
08:52.05 | matthew_i | good |
08:52.23 | matthew_i | this zaurus is a few years old, but it is more useful today than when I got it, because of OZ |
08:52.30 | matthew_i | now I just gotta get a wireless card |
08:52.37 | matthew_i | what is the word on the new linksys 54g card? |
08:52.45 | CoreDump|home | I dunno |
08:53.08 | CoreDump|home | I doubt there's a driver for any CF 54Mbit card |
08:53.56 | matthew_i | guess it depends on the chipset |
08:54.25 | CoreDump|home | right |
08:54.29 | matthew_i | why does altboot run twice? |
08:54.40 | matthew_i | the second time am I supposed to select normal boot? |
08:54.45 | CoreDump|home | indeed |
08:54.48 | matthew_i | ok |
08:55.00 | matthew_i | one for the rootfs one for the sd? |
08:55.01 | CoreDump|home | the second alboot comes from your new shiny rootfs |
08:55.26 | matthew_i | where is my shiny new gui? |
08:55.42 | matthew_i | I got the opie image, I have no gui |
08:55.45 | CoreDump|home | well, let it boot |
08:56.06 | matthew_i | and I am seeing a lot of input/output errors |
08:56.15 | CoreDump|home | uh oh |
08:56.34 | CoreDump|home | sounds like your card is acting up |
08:56.45 | matthew_i | what you say? |
08:57.04 | matthew_i | ok now it's working |
08:57.05 | matthew_i | odd |
08:57.16 | matthew_i | some one must have set us up the bomb |
08:57.16 | CoreDump|home | i/o errors are the result of cards that are either dieing or do not like ext2 |
08:57.36 | matthew_i | might be dying |
08:58.07 | CoreDump|home | format it and try a loop-file |
08:58.14 | matthew_i | it's working now |
08:58.25 | matthew_i | would it still be good to switch to loop? |
08:58.31 | CoreDump|home | yes |
08:59.34 | matthew_i | ok |
09:00.22 | matthew_i | wow cheap |
09:00.25 | matthew_i | like 30 bucks |
09:00.32 | CoreDump|home | yeah |
09:00.43 | matthew_i | this 128 mb I have now cost 50 |
09:01.18 | matthew_i | does kingston make good sd memory? |
09:02.11 | matthew_i | gues I will find out :) |
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09:23.26 | matthew_i | is wpasupplicant on OZ? |
09:23.46 | CoreDump|home | iirc yes |
09:23.51 | matthew_i | sweet |
09:29.30 | matthew_i | yup more io errors |
09:29.41 | matthew_i | i'll just wait for my new 1g card to get here |
09:29.50 | CoreDump|home | ;) |
09:30.04 | matthew_i | this 3.5.4 is much better though |
09:30.31 | CoreDump|home | sure is,thanks to hrw|gone |
09:30.40 | matthew_i | sweetness |
09:30.48 | matthew_i | is he the kernel hacker? |
09:32.20 | CoreDump|home | nope, the release manager. He create a stable OZ branch and fixed tons and tons and tons of bugs |
09:33.03 | matthew_i | ahh ok |
09:33.04 | matthew_i | cool |
09:33.16 | matthew_i | should I just use bootstrap image if I am going to run an sd root? |
09:33.56 | CoreDump|home | i wouldn't do that |
09:34.01 | CoreDump|home | broken deps in the feed etc |
09:34.02 | matthew_i | ok |
09:34.05 | matthew_i | ahh |
09:34.17 | CoreDump|home | no dev uses the OZ feed |
09:34.25 | CoreDump|home | bugs go unnoticed for ages |
09:35.14 | matthew_i | I see |
09:35.28 | matthew_i | is the package manager still broken in this release? |
09:36.35 | CoreDump|home | yep, still crashes if you install 2-3 ipks at once |
09:36.40 | matthew_i | ahh ok |
09:36.46 | matthew_i | that is the gui one right? |
09:36.57 | CoreDump|home | yeah |
09:37.02 | matthew_i | ok |
09:37.06 | CoreDump|home | console works fine |
09:37.22 | matthew_i | is opieplayer still broken? |
09:37.31 | CoreDump|home | that I do not know |
09:37.39 | CoreDump|home | mplayer should work |
09:37.45 | matthew_i | yeah... |
09:37.55 | CoreDump|home | neither am I |
09:38.02 | CoreDump|home | heh |
09:38.09 | CoreDump|home | use GPE then |
09:38.16 | matthew_i | they have gstreamer working? |
09:38.37 | matthew_i | a more important question is do they have other things working as well? |
09:38.43 | matthew_i | it was rough last time I checked |
09:38.52 | CoreDump|home | which Z? |
09:38.57 | matthew_i | 5500 |
09:39.25 | CoreDump|home | well, as luck has it, a collie is sitting next to me. Running the latest 3.5.4.1 |
09:39.29 | CoreDump|home | hotkeys work |
09:39.35 | CoreDump|home | apps work |
09:39.41 | CoreDump|home | font-size is about right |
09:39.43 | matthew_i | how about net config? |
09:39.47 | CoreDump|home | uhh |
09:40.01 | CoreDump|home | dunno, I always restore a backup for that hehe |
09:40.10 | matthew_i | hmm |
09:41.13 | matthew_i | I might try it |
09:41.27 | matthew_i | I would need to do two seperate root images to try them both right? |
09:42.48 | CoreDump|home | right |
09:43.00 | matthew_i | I might try that out |
09:43.04 | matthew_i | on my new flash |
09:46.00 | matthew_i | well thanks for your help, I gotta sleep now :) |
09:46.02 | matthew_i | later |
09:46.10 | CoreDump|home | later matthew_i |
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10:41.30 | al_do | hi all, here I am chatting with my c3k. |
10:42.01 | al_do | is there any way to "pass" my appointment from opie to gpe? and how? |
10:42.31 | al_do | (c3k running oz 3.5.4.1-a) |
10:42.44 | johnX | have you searched on oesf.org/forums ? |
10:43.46 | al_do | (blush).... mmm I think I haven't... |
10:43.57 | johnX | I don't remember if that exact issue was covered there |
10:44.17 | johnX | I have some kind of hazy memory of hearing about it at some point... |
10:44.56 | al_do | I'm taking a look... |
10:45.18 | johnX | and I'm seeing if I can find the topic I was thinking of |
10:45.42 | al_do | tx! |
10:45.48 | johnX | np |
10:47.42 | johnX | http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=18502&hl=vcard |
10:47.56 | johnX | search on the page for "vcard" and they talk about it a bit |
10:48.42 | al_do | I'm going |
10:49.06 | johnX | so are you in GPE or OPIE right now? |
10:49.44 | al_do | opie |
10:50.06 | johnX | cool :) |
10:50.08 | al_do | because I can easily sinc my data wtih windoze... |
10:50.44 | al_do | (and gpe is fair too complex for me :( ) |
10:52.18 | johnX | I'll agree that it can be overwhelming, and depending on what you want to do it GPE might be overkill...but I've grown to like it :) |
10:52.48 | CoreDump|home | GPE on VGA is nice indeed |
10:53.23 | al_do | the problem is I'm quite new to linu world... so when something goes wrong... I don't know where to put my hands on... |
10:53.49 | johnX | quite understandable |
10:54.02 | al_do | I think gpe needs more "knowledge" than opie... to work |
10:54.52 | al_do | another fact is that gpe has very ugly icons compared to opie :D |
10:55.11 | CoreDump|home | heh |
10:55.14 | johnX | I don't mind them that much |
10:55.21 | al_do | :) |
10:55.21 | johnX | and really, anything's better than Sharp ROM |
10:55.36 | johnX | those things almost made me blind |
10:56.23 | CoreDump|home | someone should patch out the search bar in firefox |
10:56.29 | johnX | funny you should mention that...I tried firefox on a gpe-image built out of .dev. It's really surprisingly fast |
10:56.59 | CoreDump|home | still kinda slow. But very usble |
10:57.02 | CoreDump|home | usable |
10:57.09 | johnX | a lot less slow than I thought it would be |
10:57.15 | johnX | what do you mean by "patch out the search bar"? |
10:57.25 | johnX | you mean have it off by default? |
10:57.28 | CoreDump|home | it's hiding a good deal of the adress bar |
10:57.41 | CoreDump|home | johnX: I wish, there's no way to disable it |
10:58.46 | johnX | uhm...view -> customize toolbars -> drag search bar off? |
10:59.15 | CoreDump|home | lol |
10:59.19 | CoreDump|home | that works? |
10:59.21 | johnX | yeah |
10:59.26 | johnX | just did it on my akita :) |
10:59.29 | CoreDump|home | heh thanks for that =) |
11:00.02 | johnX | np, thanks for the work you do on OZ/Hentges :) |
11:00.44 | CoreDump|home | =) |
11:00.57 | johnX | actually though, I put my nav buttons (back, forwards, reload, etc) up on the top by the menus and leave a whole 640 pixels for location bar, go button and search |
11:02.13 | CoreDump|home | could you scap a screenshot of an open GPE menu for me? |
11:02.35 | CoreDump|home | I was told .dev has the font-fix which .1 lacks |
11:02.51 | al_do | john: that post wasn't that usefull (since it's hard to understand for me :(... |
11:03.26 | al_do | does Gpe pim syncs to qtopia desktop? |
11:03.42 | al_do | (this whould solve my problems...) |
11:03.53 | johnX | it doesn't :( |
11:05.31 | johnX | CoreDump|home: I could put up a screenshot but I'm not sure if it would tell you what you want to know...gtk stuff is a little unstable right now in .dev so I ended up setting font sizes by hand |
11:05.46 | CoreDump|home | hmm |
11:05.57 | johnX | the matchbox menu is what you're interested in, yes? |
11:06.01 | al_do | ok, going out for lunch... see you |
11:06.06 | CoreDump|home | johnX: yep |
11:06.12 | johnX | al_do: ok |
11:06.14 | johnX | good luck |
11:06.29 | CoreDump|home | what are the problems with fonts? Were they too small? What size did you configure? |
11:08.26 | johnX | gtk fonts were pretty small, but no unbearably so |
11:08.57 | johnX | the problem was gpe-conf theme crashes on startup (need to bug report that actually) |
11:09.20 | CoreDump|home | ouch |
11:11.13 | johnX | hang on, I'll create a new user and see how things look |
11:13.46 | CoreDump|home | thanks! |
11:14.34 | johnX | hmm...I don't think that my new user got the same default settings as my first user did... |
11:14.48 | johnX | but the matchbox menu looks fine |
11:15.33 | CoreDump|home | great |
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11:15.54 | johnX | do you remember what theme gets set by default for the first user? |
11:16.04 | CoreDump|home | hmm no |
11:16.21 | CoreDump|home | I always force it to "default" on my images |
11:17.16 | johnX | well, you've probably already run into this, but the matchbox "default" theme sets font sizes to stupid values... |
11:17.36 | johnX | just a heads up |
11:18.12 | CoreDump|home | not here =) |
11:18.51 | johnX | nice |
11:19.34 | johnX | makes me want to setup altboot and try one of your GPE images :) |
11:20.23 | CoreDump|home | heh |
11:23.23 | CoreDump|home | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.4500.png <- gftp on collie lol |
11:23.51 | johnX | it's a tight enough fit on a VGA screen... |
11:24.11 | CoreDump|home | indeed |
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11:31.25 | johnX | heh...looks like glib and pango got set back to a lower version...I bet this fixes a lot of the crashes I've been running into |
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11:39.29 | johnX | ah well, this calls for an image rebuild from scratch, so I'm gonna start that and head to sleep |
11:39.46 | johnX | ~lart DST |
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11:59.43 | Shirk | Hi again |
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12:20.41 | _Shirk_ | _flashed my zaurus unusable_ .. |
12:25.43 | polyonymous | _Shirk_, are you sure it's that bad? |
12:27.46 | _Shirk_ | No, I just have to wait for a frind of mine who can put some new data on my CF card |
12:28.02 | polyonymous | Ah. |
12:28.10 | _Shirk_ | I accidentialy named the kernel 'zImage.bin' not zImage |
12:28.26 | polyonymous | Hmm.. Isn't it supposed to be zImage.bin? |
12:29.12 | _Shirk_ | If so then OZ 3.5.4 with OPIE does not boot. I can watch the Sharp boot screen for hours.. |
12:29.34 | CoreDump|home | kernel for collie = zImage |
12:29.41 | polyonymous | Ah. |
12:29.44 | CoreDump|home | for SL-Cxxxx = zImage.bin |
12:29.58 | polyonymous | I've only read spitz updater carefully :) |
12:30.20 | CoreDump|home | heh |
12:30.23 | polyonymous | Ysterday, I've finally flashed my own build |
12:30.29 | CoreDump|home | yay |
12:30.37 | _Shirk_ | Just downloading the Windows ROM-updater from sharp - this on flashed only ROM v2.38 but over USB not CF |
12:30.50 | _Shirk_ | Build with OE? |
12:30.52 | polyonymous | CoreDump|home, do you know if I can extract old kernel from mtd* backup? I wonder if I can altboot cacko which is still lying around in flash :) |
12:31.09 | polyonymous | yup, OE |
12:31.10 | CoreDump|home | polyonymous: I don't thing you can |
12:31.25 | CoreDump|home | extract the kernel I mean |
12:31.27 | polyonymous | CoreDump|home, why not? |
12:31.40 | polyonymous | If zaurus could boot it why can't I extract it? |
12:31.41 | _Shirk_ | I tryed OE but i couldn't get bitbacke to work.. |
12:31.56 | CoreDump|home | well, I wouldn't know how to go about it |
12:31.58 | polyonymous | CoreDump|home, heh, so would I :)) |
12:32.13 | CoreDump|home | altboot doesn't support kexec yet anyways ;) patches welcome heh |
12:32.15 | polyonymous | Took me some tweaking to get bluetooth card recognized... |
12:32.26 | polyonymous | Ah, then it's too early to even think about it. |
12:32.31 | _Shirk_ | You could try by doing a dd backup of /dev/mtdblock0 and scp this to your PC |
12:32.54 | polyonymous | _Shirk_, I've done that and I have the backups -- the trick is to extract kernel. |
12:32.56 | _Shirk_ | I did this once on a IPAQ |
12:33.06 | polyonymous | Which is, according to CoreDump|home, pointless at the time :) |
12:33.19 | _Shirk_ | Are you able to mount it over loop? |
12:33.29 | _Shirk_ | (Even if it's pointless ;) ) |
12:33.40 | polyonymous | Kernel isn't in the filesystem as far as I know. |
12:33.47 | polyonymous | I can extract the rest, I believe. |
12:33.50 | CoreDump|home | polyonymous: correct |
12:34.15 | _Shirk_ | Hmm.. |
12:34.23 | polyonymous | Is there a nice applet that will do a pand -c for me in opie? |
12:35.06 | polyonymous | Well, I'll look for it. Or add it into pcmcia start up script, maybe. |
12:35.26 | polyonymous | opie-login breaks things, btw. |
12:35.54 | polyonymous | With opie-login installed opie starts in portrait and never gets rotated. |
12:35.57 | CoreDump|home | polyonymous: yes it does. It's kinda useless anyways as you can't run Opie as a user |
12:36.10 | polyonymous | Ah, you can't? Then it doesn't matter. |
12:36.24 | polyonymous | I just thought it would be nice to drop root. |
12:36.32 | CoreDump|home | heh |
12:36.38 | CoreDump|home | not with opie =) |
12:36.55 | polyonymous | I see. Well, I'm yet to build gpe and boot into it for experiments :) |
12:37.22 | polyonymous | opie improved greatly since 3.5.4, I have to admit |
12:37.24 | _Shirk_ | I think in gpe it's possible to be not-root |
12:37.41 | polyonymous | It should be. X is X, after all :) |
12:37.49 | CoreDump|home | not only possible, but the default |
12:38.09 | polyonymous | Sounds like sensible default :) |
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13:09.15 | alan|laptop | hi all |
13:09.26 | CoreDump|home | hi alan|laptop |
13:09.45 | alan|laptop | yop CoreDump|home |
13:15.47 | polyonymous | my opie doesn't start anymore :) |
13:16.00 | _Shirk_ | What happened? |
13:16.19 | polyonymous | _Shirk_, strangely enough it's died after installing pwmpi. |
13:16.30 | polyonymous | But before I've installed a few applets, I think they're to blame. |
13:16.42 | polyonymous | removing pwmpi didn't help, of course. |
13:16.52 | polyonymous | Is there a way to trace opie startup? |
13:17.19 | _Shirk_ | None I could remember.. |
13:17.37 | polyonymous | Hmm... |
13:17.55 | _Shirk_ | Can you enter a runlevel before opie? |
13:17.56 | CoreDump|home | edit /etc/init.d/opie to show output messages |
13:18.19 | polyonymous | CoreDump|home, output messages? It does show everything up to starting in daemon mode... |
13:18.27 | CoreDump|home | hmm |
13:18.34 | polyonymous | Is there any option to opie for verbose execution? |
13:18.39 | polyonymous | for qpe |
13:18.51 | polyonymous | I see. Thanks : |
13:34.06 | polyonymous | it was inputhelper applet... |
13:39.20 | polyonymous | is it possible to altboot to usb storage? |
13:39.46 | CoreDump|home | with kernel 2.4 yes |
13:40.04 | polyonymous | I take it the answer implies what with 2.6 now? :) |
13:40.05 | polyonymous | no :) |
13:40.19 | CoreDump|home | right heh |
13:41.06 | polyonymous | Then can I altboot into looped filesystem? :) |
13:41.25 | CoreDump|home | check /etc/altboot-2.6.conf and /etc/altboot-menu/$whatever the usb script is called |
13:41.44 | polyonymous | Well, right, I need to see for myself before asking questions :) |
13:41.57 | polyonymous | I haven't even taken a look yet. |
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16:20.16 | gomoran | Hallo, wieso gibt's bei OZ immer Probleme mit links wenn man Pakete auf die SD-Karte installieren will? Kann man das irgendwie hinbekommen? |
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17:47.59 | bam_ | anyone got oz running on a 3100? |
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17:58.53 | galvAtr0n | eccerr0r hi dude ;) |
17:59.04 | galvAtr0n | i managed to get 4MB on /root ;)) |
18:01.24 | galvAtr0n | anyone know if zgcc works on OZ 3.5.4 ? |
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18:11.13 | Shirk | what are those 'Enlightenment DR17 images' talked about on the OZ 3.5.4 release?? |
18:12.11 | webmind | Shirk, well... there are soem e17 test images |
18:12.32 | Shirk | I like e17 |
18:15.55 | galvAtr0n | how can i list the files in a package ? |
18:17.18 | galvAtr0n | is it posible to list the files in a /ipk ? |
18:17.29 | galvAtr0n | sorry i mean .ipk (typo) |
18:20.04 | Shirk | Where can I get those e17 testimages ?? Are there screenshots available?? |
18:20.30 | Shirk | galvAtr0n it should be possible with MC |
18:20.46 | Shirk | But you may need to rename the file first |
18:23.15 | Shirk | Ah I see gpe ipk's in 3.5.4 feed |
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18:39.04 | bam_ | where to find instructions for oz/3100 install? |
18:39.13 | polyonymous | on oz site? |
18:39.36 | polyonymous | basically, put zImage.bin, gnu-tar and hdimage1.tgz along with updater.sh on CF card. |
18:39.40 | bam_ | hehe, I was hoping for a link, im lazy today |
18:39.46 | polyonymous | http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/installation/sl-c3100/ |
18:40.19 | bam_ | cool |
18:40.21 | bam_ | thanks |
18:40.28 | bam_ | off tu fugg up my z |
18:40.37 | bam_ | :) |
18:40.53 | polyonymous | good luck. should be no big deal. flashed it yesterday :) |
18:42.10 | bam_ | all works well |
18:42.14 | bam_ | I take it |
18:42.34 | polyonymous | Mostly. Some tweaks are needed once in a while. |
18:42.35 | Shirk | OZ 3.5.3 segfaults while starting opie |
18:42.51 | polyonymous | There's no 3.5.3 for 3100, Shirk :) |
18:43.09 | bam_ | polyonymous, , you used the 2,6 kernel correct? |
18:43.14 | polyonymous | bam_, right |
18:43.23 | bam_ | installs on microdrive? |
18:43.33 | polyonymous | yes, only kernel itself goes into flash |
18:43.42 | bam_ | oh, cool |
18:43.55 | bam_ | whats your partitioning scheme look like |
18:44.00 | bam_ | for the micro |
18:44.05 | Shirk | But for SL5500 .. |
18:44.09 | polyonymous | Mine -- /dev/hda1 ext3 partition only :) |
18:44.31 | polyonymous | Shirk, I thought you were referring to our conversation with bam_ |
18:44.46 | Shirk | No - sorry - |
18:44.52 | polyonymous | Ah, okay. |
18:45.01 | bam_ | the whole drive 8| |
18:45.10 | bam_ | o_O |
18:45.16 | polyonymous | bam_, yeah, why would I bother with partitioning? |
18:45.34 | bam_ | good point....any swap partition or file? |
18:45.41 | Shirk | How's the whole system speed when / is on microdirve? |
18:45.47 | polyonymous | Well, I have swap file, but prefer not to use it. |
18:45.59 | polyonymous | Shirk, alright. Supposedly faster than flash |
18:46.11 | bam_ | ok...time for a microdrive backup |
18:46.26 | polyonymous | my brief test shows that hdd is times faster. |
18:46.27 | Shirk | I thought about buying one.. |
18:46.42 | polyonymous | bam_, Yeah, I rsync-ed it before flashing :) |
18:46.49 | Shirk | Yeah and it has more space than CF |
18:47.02 | bam_ | hmmm |
18:47.04 | polyonymous | Yes, I like it so far. |
18:47.49 | Shirk | I bought my Z to use it along with a sdio wlan and a micro drive as mini webserver |
18:48.35 | polyonymous | So Z supports sd wlan on 5500? |
18:48.59 | Shirk | Yes |
18:49.03 | polyonymous | not on 3100 |
18:49.34 | Shirk | The person I got mine from did wlan with it. But he refused to sell his wlan card to me :( |
18:49.53 | polyonymous | Well, if you're going to go for 3100, you will have to get CF wlan, anyway. |
18:50.56 | Shirk | Well.. if i stumble uppon some money.. |
18:51.21 | bam_ | what about usb lan adapters? |
18:51.35 | polyonymous | I bought mine and I surely couldn't afford doing it :) |
18:51.44 | polyonymous | bam_, never tried, should be possible. |
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18:52.01 | Shirk | I'm doing it atm |
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18:52.16 | bam_ | cool |
18:52.46 | Shirk | Works without probs |
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18:53.59 | galvAtr0n | POLY is this YOU ==========> www.Polyonymous.justgotowned.com |
18:54.05 | polyonymous | No |
18:54.23 | galvAtr0n | it think it is dude it looks like you lol |
18:54.30 | galvAtr0n | that must of hurt |
18:54.47 | polyonymous | Very funny :) |
18:54.54 | galvAtr0n | LOL ;) |
18:55.03 | galvAtr0n | change the name send it to your friends |
18:55.29 | polyonymous | To be true, I have better things to do :) |
18:55.37 | galvAtr0n | :) |
18:56.01 | galvAtr0n | its a good site for if you own at FPS ;) |
18:56.21 | galvAtr0n | some funny pics too |
18:58.19 | bam_ | hey polyonymous ,where is the downloads for oz,3100 |
18:58.44 | polyonymous | you're lazy bastard :) |
18:58.51 | polyonymous | http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/2006/03/21/openzaurus-3541-alpha1-release/ -- the first link |
18:58.52 | bam_ | indeed.... |
18:58.57 | bam_ | cool |
18:59.07 | polyonymous | but I was told there's no ipk feed for it... |
18:59.21 | polyonymous | So you may need to use 3.5.4 feed, I don't know. |
18:59.28 | polyonymous | I've flashed my own build. |
18:59.38 | Shirk | http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/mirror/www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.4/images/ (correct me if im wrong) |
18:59.58 | Shirk | there is also a 'feed' directory on that server |
18:59.59 | polyonymous | Shirk, you're wrong, because there's no 3.5.4 for 3100. |
19:00.11 | polyonymous | Other than that you're right. |
19:00.27 | polyonymous | (probably. haven't checked the link) |
19:00.46 | Shirk | There is also a 3.5.3/images/ on the server ^^;; |
19:00.48 | bam_ | but if you were ever with the palmos and into the not-so-legal corners you wouldnt say that too much :) |
19:01.06 | polyonymous | Shirk, there's no 3.5.3 for 3100 either :) only 3.5.4.1-alpha1 |
19:01.07 | Shirk | Just browse it! |
19:01.27 | bam_ | so what feed do we use for the 3100? |
19:01.40 | CoreDump|afk | 3.5.4 |
19:01.47 | polyonymous | bam_, I've use palm before buying Z :) |
19:02.02 | polyonymous | Here, finally, comes the one who knows :) |
19:02.08 | Shirk | What palm? |
19:02.15 | polyonymous | Shirk, tungsten t |
19:02.19 | bam_ | hehe, yea I know a bit |
19:02.25 | bam_ | or byte |
19:02.26 | Shirk | *enlight us!!* |
19:02.27 | polyonymous | Used to have handspring visor before. |
19:02.39 | polyonymous | bam_, I was referring to CoreDump :) |
19:02.48 | Shirk | nice |
19:03.12 | polyonymous | bon appetit. |
19:03.13 | Shirk | I had an ipaq h3600 |
19:03.19 | bam_ | yea, but im lazy tooo |
19:03.21 | bam_ | lol |
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19:03.52 | polyonymous | I'm going to try to get opera to work with OZ now... |
19:04.04 | galvAtr0n | poly what ver ? |
19:04.32 | polyonymous | ver of what? |
19:04.40 | galvAtr0n | is it the multimodal voiceXML ver of opera ? |
19:04.57 | bam_ | poly you use 3.5.4 7x0 images and install |
19:05.01 | Shirk | poly: How long does it take to do a whole own build? |
19:05.01 | bam_ | ...huh |
19:05.39 | bam_ | nm, wrong link, duh! |
19:05.42 | polyonymous | bam_, image of what? |
19:05.53 | polyonymous | Shirk, I normally do it overnight. |
19:05.55 | bam_ | im being stupid |
19:06.18 | bam_ | I can read asm but cant seem to pay attention to links go figure |
19:06.21 | galvAtr0n | on my 5600 dropbear seems to get started twice which is causing putty to hang |
19:06.22 | Shirk | OK |
19:06.23 | polyonymous | galvAtr0n, what is multimodal voiceXML? I want a browser! :) |
19:06.54 | polyonymous | galvAtr0n, It's unlikely scenario. |
19:06.55 | galvAtr0n | ibm released a ver of opera with voice commands ;) |
19:07.09 | galvAtr0n | i used it with the sharp rom |
19:07.32 | galvAtr0n | u use voice commands to control opera |
19:07.34 | polyonymous | galvAtr0n, if I wanted opera with voice commands I wouldn't buy Z with keyboard!! Besides, I don't think my voice is good enough for opera. |
19:07.48 | Shirk | You can say 'crash' and don't need to do anything else ;) |
19:07.52 | polyonymous | And, doez 3100 have microphone, anyway? |
19:09.00 | galvAtr0n | its worth trying its cool ;) |
19:09.30 | Shirk | You have to 'speak' the commands by making click noises on the keyboard ^^ |
19:09.44 | galvAtr0n | check it out http://www-306.ibm.com/software/pervasive/multimodal/demos.shtml theres a video demo too |
19:10.01 | polyonymous | waste of bandwidth! :) |
19:10.25 | Shirk | Who |
19:10.33 | galvAtr0n | its done on the Z using voiceXML no change to bandwidth |
19:10.40 | Shirk | has bandwidth? |
19:11.02 | galvAtr0n | what version of opera were you going to install ? |
19:11.43 | Shirk | galvAtr0n: I think poly meant watching the video is a waste of bandwith |
19:11.53 | galvAtr0n | LOL ;) ok |
19:12.27 | Shirk | Can anyone tell me about the performance of GPE on SL5500?? |
19:12.44 | galvAtr0n | its really easy to customise the html files to include your own voice commands and post data to your sever |
19:12.53 | Shirk | It performed poorly on my old IPAQ.. |
19:13.09 | galvAtr0n | it worked great on my 5600 |
19:13.17 | polyonymous | galvAtr0n, no idea, the one I had on cacko rom |
19:15.10 | polyonymous | I'm build gpe right now, but I don't have 5500 |
19:15.22 | polyonymous | building that is |
19:15.34 | Shirk | OK i think i try it.. (at least as long as opie segfaults..) |
19:16.08 | Shirk | poly: I still need to get that cross-compiler working to be able to build from oe.. |
19:16.09 | polyonymous | Shirk, What I like about having 4G is that I can have both :) |
19:16.20 | polyonymous | Shirk, 2.95 ? |
19:16.31 | Shirk | ? |
19:16.38 | polyonymous | what crosscompiler? |
19:16.48 | polyonymous | Most of the tools are built by oe itself. |
19:17.33 | Shirk | I think it should be gcc 2.95 but im not shure (running window$ atm) |
19:17.39 | polyonymous | I don't know if 2.95 crosstools are needed for 2.6 build, but I have one just unpacked and put somewhere... Don't know if it's used with recent builds. |
19:17.51 | polyonymous | I haven't compiled 2.95 crosstools myself. |
19:18.43 | Shirk | I considered using the cross-sdk but didn't have the time to test it |
19:19.12 | polyonymous | hmm.. opera doesn't start of course and ldd doesn't work for some reason... |
19:19.47 | Shirk | CoreDump: There is a flash util for 5500 under windows, but it needs a working distro on the Z.. |
19:24.11 | polyonymous | Wish there was a better browser for opie :( |
19:24.43 | Shirk | There is Konqueror but I wouldn't call it 'better' |
19:25.12 | polyonymous | The worst thing about it is that it doesn't understand anything but utf |
19:25.25 | polyonymous | At least when it comes to russian charsets. |
19:25.30 | Shirk | I personaly prefer UTF8 |
19:25.34 | Shirk | Oh.. |
19:25.57 | polyonymous | My preferences don't matter much -- it's up to webmaster ;-) |
19:26.19 | polyonymous | Should build a utf-converting proxy? :) |
19:26.33 | Shirk | Someone should do a I18N capable opie firefox.. |
19:26.46 | polyonymous | I'm not asking for that much. |
19:27.11 | polyonymous | I don't like opera, but for this use I'd stick with it. |
19:27.14 | Shirk | No, but wouldn't it be nice to have? |
19:27.30 | polyonymous | Probably yes. |
19:28.02 | polyonymous | But FF has its own problems. ver since I installed 1.5 I can't help thinking about RAM upgrade. |
19:28.33 | Shirk | This is mainly the page caching.. you can turn it of and the memory footprint will drop down |
19:28.42 | galvAtr0n | is the gcc.ipk for onboard compilation ? |
19:30.30 | polyonymous | Shirk, I know, I've reduced it to minimum, but still... |
19:30.35 | Shirk | what else should it be? |
19:30.40 | polyonymous | galvAtr0n, probably, yes. what else? |
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19:45.46 | CoreDump|home | re |
19:46.05 | CoreDump|home | Shirk: darn. I didn't know that sorry |
19:46.28 | bronson | I just hauld my 5500 out of the closet and installed GPE. |
19:46.32 | bronson | Wow, it's come a long way. |
19:46.42 | Shirk | np, i couldn't use it.. |
19:46.58 | Shirk | Is it fast? |
19:47.05 | CoreDump|home | bronson: sure has heh |
19:47.25 | Shirk | Better: is it 'not slow'? |
19:47.26 | polyonymous | You guys have such wonderful closets :) |
19:47.38 | bronson | heh. you wouldn't see that if you saw it. |
19:47.39 | CoreDump|home | GPE < 3.5.3 was a joke |
19:48.12 | CoreDump|home | on a collie it's a bit of a pain tho |
19:48.26 | Shirk | if your closet is able to conserve a zaurus it is way better than mine.. |
19:48.48 | bronson | It's definitely got a few wrinkles but it's way better than 1.5 years ago. |
19:48.52 | bronson | I might actually use it this time. |
19:51.42 | bronson | HOLY COW!! Ok, gpe-aerial is cool. |
19:52.20 | polyonymous | CoreDump|home, same here :) |
19:52.32 | polyonymous | building gpe :) |
19:52.36 | CoreDump|home | dito |
19:52.42 | polyonymous | heh |
19:53.09 | polyonymous | CoreDump|home, are there known success stories getting opera to work on OZ? |
19:53.26 | CoreDump|home | polyonymous: never tried it |
19:53.37 | CoreDump|home | konq/e on opie was enough for me |
19:53.50 | polyonymous | CoreDump|home, It would be enough for me if it could handle anything but utf... |
19:53.57 | CoreDump|home | so is the gpe mini browser (and firefox to the rescue heh) |
19:55.09 | polyonymous | I think it makes sense to have both opie and gpe side by side. |
19:55.29 | CoreDump|home | polyonymous: well, there are people on oesf.org who managed to run Opera 7.? on OZ3.5.3 |
19:56.01 | polyonymous | Encouragine. |
19:56.02 | polyonymous | g |
19:56.54 | CoreDump|home | the damn thing is compiling for 5hrs straight now |
19:57.20 | polyonymous | That is not encouraging -- I started my build way later :) |
19:57.26 | polyonymous | Are you building from scratch? |
19:57.31 | CoreDump|home | yes |
19:57.50 | polyonymous | Ah. I use the same tree I used for opie, so it should be faster :) |
19:58.08 | Shirk | Where is the difference between the gpe-*.rootfs.initrd.bin and the gpe-*.rootfs.ext2 (I mean other than the size) |
19:58.10 | CoreDump|home | you might run into problems with SDL apps tho |
19:58.24 | polyonymous | because I used it for opie build? how so? |
19:58.30 | CoreDump|home | Shirk: the .bin is a jffs2 image for flashing |
19:58.53 | CoreDump|home | the .ext2 file is a loop-image that can be booted with altboot |
19:59.01 | CoreDump|home | (w/o flashing) |
19:59.04 | Shirk | ok |
19:59.34 | CoreDump|home | polyonymous: right, a default opie-image shouldn't require SDL |
19:59.47 | polyonymous | CoreDump|home, yes, but I'm doing build gpe-image now |
19:59.51 | Shirk | I think i need to install gdb on my Z.. |
20:00.06 | polyonymous | What I was trying to say is that I don't need to build all the dev tools and bootstrap packages. |
20:00.12 | CoreDump|home | right |
20:00.22 | CoreDump|home | libc is a bitch isn't it? =D |
20:00.38 | polyonymous | so is life. |
20:00.43 | CoreDump|home | hehe |
20:00.52 | polyonymous | I've installed altboot. |
20:01.06 | CoreDump|home | that should be in the default image |
20:01.06 | polyonymous | There is an /etc/altboot-2.4.cfg -- is it by design? |
20:01.14 | CoreDump|home | yep |
20:01.17 | polyonymous | I think it's not. |
20:01.27 | polyonymous | But I have 2.6 :) |
20:01.34 | CoreDump|home | akita rightß |
20:01.36 | CoreDump|home | ? |
20:01.39 | polyonymous | borzoi |
20:01.42 | CoreDump|home | ahh |
20:02.12 | CoreDump|home | altboot on borzoi should work |
20:02.26 | polyonymous | I didn't say it doesn't work yet |
20:02.31 | CoreDump|home | hehe |
20:02.41 | polyonymous | I was talking about 2.4 configuration when I have 2.6 |
20:02.42 | Shirk | If you mean 'the one you get from the os hp' - then there is no altboot.. |
20:02.57 | polyonymous | I mean, I haven't tried it yet. |
20:03.05 | CoreDump|home | polyonymous: oops, no -2.6 config? |
20:03.09 | polyonymous | nope |
20:03.16 | CoreDump|home | uh oh |
20:03.30 | polyonymous | I've updated OE yesterday. |
20:03.42 | CoreDump|home | well, as I do not have access to a spitz or borzoi, testing these is a pain |
20:03.51 | CoreDump|home | let me see... |
20:04.09 | polyonymous | Well, no worries, I'll try to figure it out and will get back to you |
20:04.24 | polyonymous | But first I'll have to get my gpe-image built :) |
20:04.49 | CoreDump|home | polyonymous: rebooting now *might* be fatal heh |
20:04.57 | Shirk | grrr.. why does this thing segfault.. |
20:05.15 | CoreDump|home | as you have OE, you could use akitas -2.6.cfg |
20:05.24 | polyonymous | I think you exaggerate it, but I see your point, I'd better relink /sbin/init for now :) |
20:05.33 | polyonymous | Ah, lemme see. |
20:05.55 | polyonymous | Are you serious about being fatal? With no possibility to fallback to init.sysvinit? |
20:05.57 | CoreDump|home | as 2.6 boots straight off HDD it should be identical to akita |
20:06.24 | CoreDump|home | polyonymous: well, basic boot-up should work. I've never tested these failsafes tho |
20:06.58 | polyonymous | Hm... in OE there is files/borzoi/altboot-2.6.cfg |
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20:07.25 | CoreDump|home | update your tree ;) borzoi == spitz now |
20:07.44 | polyonymous | Ah, right, I've built for spitz, but checked borzoi directory |
20:08.01 | polyonymous | And there is no spitz/altboot-2.6.cfg :) |
20:08.13 | CoreDump|home | nope |
20:08.22 | cruisefx | Has anyone gotten the linux.inf from the Linux kernel to work with OZ 3.5.4 under Windoze? |
20:08.25 | CoreDump|home | that's why I was asking you to try the akita cfg |
20:08.42 | Shirk | Does oe build .ipk's ?? |
20:08.44 | polyonymous | Okay, I'll fetch it now. |
20:08.50 | CoreDump|home | Shirk: yep |
20:08.50 | polyonymous | Shirk, yes |
20:09.21 | CoreDump|home | cruisefx: what on earth is a "linux.inf"? |
20:09.25 | Shirk | Fine, then I'll try it tomorrow.. |
20:09.36 | polyonymous | Okay, I got the one for akita. looking at it now. |
20:09.51 | Shirk | Maybe a linux driver for windows ^^ |
20:09.55 | cruisefx | CoreDump|home: It is a driver that adds a USB networking device for Linux gadgets under windows.... |
20:10.15 | cruisefx | CoreDump|home: It is included with the Linux kernel... |
20:10.25 | CoreDump|home | cruisefx: really? heh didn't know that |
20:10.27 | cruisefx | CoreDump|home: But I can't get it to work properly... |
20:10.28 | Shirk | What 'gadget' exactly |
20:10.38 | polyonymous | CoreDump|home, probably you don't have windows machine :) |
20:10.48 | CoreDump|home | exactly ;) |
20:11.17 | Shirk | Linux.inf.. I have to check that one.. |
20:11.22 | polyonymous | I have one, but it lacks power supply :) |
20:11.30 | cruisefx | Can't get USB networking to function properly under XP... |
20:11.33 | polyonymous | Use it as a printer stand |
20:11.46 | cruisefx | Shirk: Documentation/usb/linux.inf |
20:11.48 | CoreDump|home | cruisefx: sorry, can't help you with that one |
20:12.03 | Shirk | What device do you have? |
20:12.09 | cruisefx | SL-5500... |
20:12.12 | CoreDump|home | polyonymous: see? Windows _is_ good for something hehe |
20:12.29 | Shirk | Wait a moment.. |
20:12.31 | polyonymous | Indeed. |
20:12.57 | Shirk | Try this: http://www.sharpusa.com/files/hpc_soft_installcd.exe - it includes a working usb driver |
20:13.38 | cruisefx | Shirk: I've tried it. I'm going to give up on Windoze now... |
20:14.08 | Shirk | Hmm it worked for me out of the box? What did you do? |
20:14.25 | cruisefx | Shirk: Internet access from the Zaurus is what I'm after.. |
20:14.49 | Shirk | And what exactly is the problem? |
20:15.31 | cruisefx | Shirk: The NDIS5 driver works half the time. Can't get NAT to work with the device. Can't use ICS. usbd0 device doesn't come up.... |
20:15.59 | Shirk | Sounds bad.. |
20:16.26 | cruisefx | Shirk: yeah, although I would have thought that someone would have worked it out by now... |
20:16.32 | Shirk | I just put the Z on the docking station and told windows where to find the drivers.. |
20:17.14 | CoreDump|home | polyonymous: do me a favor and /msg me if the akita-2.6.cfg works for you. I'll push it for spitz then |
20:17.32 | polyonymous | will do, once I get an image to test with :) |
20:17.40 | CoreDump|home | ;) no hurry |
20:17.50 | Shirk | For NAT your may need to setup a registry key to enable routing from window$ |
20:18.18 | polyonymous | There seems to be a usb storage support. Didn't you tell me earlier that I can't usb-altboot on 2.6? |
20:18.19 | cruisefx | Shirk: Yeah, now I'm thinking I need the Zaurus Manager to do this. I have uninstalled all that and am just working with the driver... |
20:18.40 | CoreDump|home | polyonymous: right, support for 2.6 was never implemented |
20:18.42 | polyonymous | But there seems to be kexec support as well, so :) |
20:19.11 | Shirk | If you mean the regkey try this: http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/WindowsIpaqRoutingHowto - it is for ipaq but should also work for Z |
20:19.14 | polyonymous | Okay, and IMAGE_PATH means path on card or can it be on hdd? |
20:19.26 | bam_ | ok here we go... |
20:20.38 | CoreDump|home | again, kexec is not implemented as kernel 2.6 on akita screws up the flash and makes it unreadable for 2.4 |
20:20.51 | polyonymous | Ah, I see. |
20:21.02 | CoreDump|home | IMAGE_PATH is the subfolder search on any off-flash root |
20:21.15 | polyonymous | Okay, maybe I should just reboot for fun now? To test if can at least bot normally? :) |
20:21.20 | CoreDump|home | right |
20:21.49 | Shirk | Is there something like a microdrive for SD? |
20:21.54 | polyonymous | I will |
20:22.17 | CoreDump|home | Shirk: not that I knew of |
20:22.48 | polyonymous | rebooting... :) |
20:24.02 | polyonymous | umm... I don't think it's altboot-related, but it doesn't seem to power on... |
20:24.17 | CoreDump|home | reboot = halt on 2.6 |
20:24.27 | CoreDump|home | yay, GPE is compiled |
20:24.31 | polyonymous | Yes, but on/off... |
20:24.41 | CoreDump|home | another 2.6 bug |
20:24.43 | Shirk | thats a new one.. |
20:24.55 | CoreDump|home | disconnect AC, remove battery for 1 seconds |
20:25.00 | CoreDump|home | -> power on |
20:25.05 | Shirk | then maybe start=segafult for opie on 3.5.3? |
20:25.07 | CoreDump|home | s/1/10 |
20:25.09 | polyonymous | Yes, done that already |
20:25.21 | polyonymous | using real init, booting alright |
20:25.25 | CoreDump|home | then your battery is flat =) |
20:25.43 | Shirk | \/segafult/segfault |
20:25.43 | polyonymous | What?? |
20:25.59 | polyonymous | it's 1 month old. |
20:26.09 | polyonymous | Besides, I'm booting on battery now :) |
20:26.12 | CoreDump|home | not dead, just not full enough |
20:26.20 | polyonymous | fully charged. |
20:26.25 | CoreDump|home | it won't turn on before beeing charged XX% |
20:26.51 | polyonymous | And the led is off, which indicates it's not charging, right? |
20:26.55 | polyonymous | Well, anyway, I'm in. |
20:27.05 | polyonymous | My gpe isn't ready yet. |
20:27.25 | Shirk | Where XX comes after XIX and means 20 |
20:27.27 | CoreDump|home | remove AC & bat again |
20:27.50 | polyonymous | CoreDump|home, what for? It's booting now. |
20:27.54 | CoreDump|home | ahh |
20:28.01 | polyonymous | I told you, it worked after I reset it, removed battery, etc. |
20:28.20 | CoreDump|home | I missed that line =) |
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20:28.32 | polyonymous | "already" meant by the time I was writing it (and you suggested), not when it didn't work last time :) |
20:30.53 | polyonymous | is it fast? :) |
20:31.31 | Shirk | What qpe version does opie use? |
20:31.46 | CoreDump|home | hint: the menuing code is a bad hack |
20:32.06 | CoreDump|home | Shirk: hmm dunno |
20:32.14 | polyonymous | CoreDump|home, I'm not reading it to criticize ) |
20:32.22 | CoreDump|home | ;) |
20:32.30 | Shirk | At least it keeps crashing every time.. |
20:32.48 | CoreDump|home | Shirk: opie on collie is very stable |
20:33.20 | CoreDump|home | polyonymous: if you wonder about all the redirects think one word: busybox |
20:33.25 | Shirk | It's so stable it terminates with a segfault on startup.. |
20:33.33 | polyonymous | will do :) |
20:33.43 | CoreDump|home | Shirk: something went wrong then |
20:34.16 | Shirk | I flashed OZ 3.5.3 with 64:0 zImage.. |
20:34.35 | CoreDump|home | 3.5.3 is 1yr old |
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20:34.41 | CoreDump|home | but stable, too |
20:34.47 | bam_ | hey quick question |
20:35.06 | bam_ | which file is hdd1 image? |
20:35.08 | Shirk | That's why im loading gpe for about ~1h now.. |
20:35.17 | bam_ | bootstrap? |
20:35.24 | polyonymous | bam_,hdimage1.tgz ? |
20:35.32 | Shirk | hdd1? |
20:35.35 | bam_ | yea |
20:35.47 | polyonymous | polyonymous, opie or gpe, whichever you prefer |
20:35.56 | bam_ | ive got updater.sh, zImage.bin, gnu-tar |
20:35.58 | polyonymous | sure you may prefer bootstrap, but I doubt you really do. |
20:36.00 | bam_ | so far |
20:36.15 | bam_ | ok so delete bootstrap |
20:36.44 | polyonymous | roughly speaking, I think, bootstrap is opie and gpe intersection :) |
20:36.52 | bam_ | so the gpe or opie is the hdd*.image right |
20:37.03 | polyonymous | hdimage1.tgz iirc |
20:37.10 | bam_ | oh so you can boot either...? |
20:37.12 | Shirk | poly: only without opie and gpe ;) |
20:37.31 | polyonymous | Shirk, well, opie and gpe do not intersect much, so they're left out. |
20:37.47 | Shirk | *G* |
20:37.48 | CoreDump|home | heh |
20:38.03 | polyonymous | CoreDump|home, can't you run real init from altboot menu? |
20:38.09 | bam_ | so rename gpe-image*.tar.gz to hdimage1.tgz |
20:38.21 | bam_ | correct? |
20:38.36 | polyonymous | Right |
20:38.42 | CoreDump|home | polyonymous: nope, normal boot does that anyway |
20:38.43 | bam_ | good... |
20:39.01 | polyonymous | Umm... |
20:39.14 | bam_ | well here we go..... |
20:39.22 | polyonymous | I don't get it, I thought altboot comes in when I'm booting? |
20:39.51 | Shirk | But altboot still needs a real init .. |
20:39.55 | polyonymous | So what makes it use realinit now? |
20:40.01 | polyonymous | Shirk, that is out of question :) |
20:40.09 | CoreDump|home | polyonymous: right after the kernel has booted it will prompt for user input |
20:40.22 | polyonymous | CoreDump|home, that's what I expected it to do... |
20:40.22 | CoreDump|home | if none is recieved it'll boot |
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20:40.37 | polyonymous | Probably I was busy talking to you when it did :) |
20:40.54 | CoreDump|home | or the cfg is missing ;) |
20:41.26 | CoreDump|home | ENABLE_ALTBOOT != "yes" would do that |
20:41.28 | bam_ | you know as much as I play I should order a new 3100 |
20:42.14 | polyonymous | CoreDump|home, I checked for that, file is there and it's enabled. |
20:42.24 | polyonymous | bam_, why? |
20:42.37 | CoreDump|home | did you relink init to altboot? |
20:43.07 | polyonymous | CoreDump|home, well, when I looked at the screen it DID say 'Using real init' :) But I'll reboot again to see if I just missed it. |
20:43.44 | CoreDump|home | that line is followed by one or more "*" |
20:43.50 | CoreDump|home | how many? |
20:44.47 | bam_ | always worried when flashing |
20:44.52 | polyonymous | I'll reboot now :) |
20:44.57 | polyonymous | bam_, did you nand backup? :) |
20:45.04 | bam_ | hmmmm, no |
20:45.09 | jayja1 | hi. |
20:45.18 | bam_ | got cacko backup in my laptop |
20:45.36 | jayja1 | _ployonymous, what is nand ? |
20:46.57 | polyonymous | bam_, that's not exactly the same. |
20:46.59 | jayja1 | sorry, polyonymous_, I meant. |
20:47.20 | polyonymous | jayja1, I don't remember... |
20:47.34 | jayja1 | polyonymous_, thx. |
20:47.46 | polyonymous | I mean, it's Z's "flash", but what does abbreviation mean I don't remember |
20:47.52 | polyonymous | (if I ever knew) |
20:48.00 | jayja1 | ok |
20:48.22 | NAbyss | NAND as in the logic gate.. |
20:48.37 | NAbyss | Flash's made out of either NAND or NOR gates |
20:48.39 | bam_ | hmmm that was easy |
20:49.18 | Shirk | can i simply flash a nand backup --> back to the z? |
20:50.03 | polyonymous | Shirk, most of the time yes |
20:50.21 | bam_ | how do I blinkin change *@spitz? |
20:50.25 | CoreDump|home | NAbyss: exactly |
20:50.45 | jayja1 | NAbyss: o.k. |
20:50.50 | polyonymous | CoreDump|home, 1 star |
20:51.02 | polyonymous | means test "`runlevel`" != "unknown" -a "$1" != "-force" |
20:51.08 | CoreDump|home | yep |
20:51.16 | bam_ | no fdisk? |
20:51.25 | jayja1 | NAbyss: +1 star from me too = 2 stars |
20:51.53 | polyonymous | bam_, where have you installed OZ if you haven't re-fdisked hdd? |
20:51.58 | CoreDump|home | polyonymous: now that's odd |
20:52.25 | polyonymous | CoreDump|home, I'm glad we bumbed into something interesting! :) I'll go fetch me some tea. |
20:52.26 | bam_ | i did |
20:52.49 | bam_ | but didnt mkfs on the 2nd partition...stupid me |
20:53.37 | bam_ | need to re-fdisk for that |
20:54.46 | polyonymous | why refdisk? |
20:55.13 | polyonymous | CoreDump|home, any more exciting ideas? |
20:55.20 | CoreDump|home | polyonymous: that function detects whether altboot was launched by the kernel (in which case runlevel should be "unknown") or the user (where runlevel would be set) |
20:55.28 | polyonymous | That's what I thought. |
20:55.54 | polyonymous | Well, I'll reboot again to see if I just forgot the number of stars by the time I reported it to you :) |
20:56.04 | CoreDump|home | wait |
20:56.06 | polyonymous | (this is, indeed, possible) |
20:56.18 | polyonymous | Sure I can wait, but Z is went for reboot already :)) |
20:56.21 | CoreDump|home | place this: echo "runlevel: [`runlevel`]" |
20:56.29 | CoreDump|home | before the if please |
20:56.45 | polyonymous | yes, one star. Sure, will do on the next boot :) |
20:57.06 | CoreDump|home | it might be that your /var is pupulated with garbage |
20:57.17 | polyonymous | It sure may. |
20:57.18 | CoreDump|home | which would be the reason "runlevel" lies |
20:57.31 | polyonymous | Maybe I'd rather clean up /var? :) |
20:57.41 | polyonymous | where is runlevel stored? |
20:58.01 | CoreDump|home | <PROTECTED> |
20:58.11 | polyonymous | are you kidding? |
20:58.15 | CoreDump|home | no |
20:58.17 | polyonymous | on borzoi? |
20:58.25 | CoreDump|home | <PROTECTED> |
20:58.33 | polyonymous | it's not |
20:58.43 | CoreDump|home | it should be tmpfs |
20:58.53 | polyonymous | well, it's not. |
20:59.24 | polyonymous | It's likely this is exactly what the problem is, then. |
20:59.51 | CoreDump|home | polyonymous: you are right, it's not on spitz |
21:00.04 | polyonymous | yeah, neither on spitz, I suppose. |
21:00.09 | CoreDump|home | tmpfs for /var is disabled in fstab |
21:00.31 | CoreDump|home | " Runlevel reads the system utmp file (typically /var/run/utmp) to locate |
21:00.31 | CoreDump|home | <PROTECTED> |
21:00.53 | polyonymous | So, probably, shutdown doesn't do what it supposed to do. |
21:00.57 | polyonymous | I'll echo runlevel now. |
21:01.41 | CoreDump|home | right |
21:01.56 | polyonymous | hmm.. |
21:02.17 | polyonymous | The system is going down for reboot NOW! |
21:02.17 | polyonymous | runlevel: [N 5] |
21:02.18 | polyonymous | :)) |
21:02.27 | CoreDump|home | hehe |
21:02.36 | polyonymous | [5 6] |
21:03.42 | CoreDump|home | now that is a problem |
21:03.43 | polyonymous | so, should it be like "${RL}" != "${RL%6}" ? |
21:04.14 | CoreDump|home | runlevel in this state is "unknown" |
21:04.43 | polyonymous | Sounds like there is another condition to test for on borzoi |
21:04.47 | polyonymous | (and spitz:)) |
21:04.59 | CoreDump|home | you could just enable the tmpf in fstab as a work-around |
21:05.11 | CoreDump|home | of fix the bug causing this |
21:05.13 | polyonymous | I don't think it's the way to go |
21:05.57 | polyonymous | I think we can just test for allowed runlevels? |
21:06.06 | bam_ | so without fdisk how do I access my hdd to correct the minor issue? |
21:06.07 | polyonymous | for examples the ones with trailing 6 |
21:06.18 | polyonymous | bam_, how does fdisk help? |
21:06.39 | polyonymous | you need mkfs, right? |
21:06.42 | CoreDump|home | the way to go is to fix the bug in OZ. A screwed up /var can mess up many things |
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21:06.56 | polyonymous | CoreDump|home, I think var shouldn't be cleaned up. |
21:07.04 | bam_ | well ~ is in ram right now, need to mkfs on my second partition |
21:07.09 | Shirk | Who! GPE is done!! |
21:07.12 | polyonymous | and this runlevel seems to be perfectly legal for reboot. |
21:07.24 | CoreDump|home | hmm |
21:08.20 | CoreDump|home | the question is what is the runlevel of a "real" distro at INIT time |
21:08.26 | bam_ | err..yea, but how do I see what partitions exist on my disk? |
21:08.35 | CoreDump|home | what is it supposed to be |
21:08.36 | polyonymous | CoreDump|home, hang on, I'll see |
21:08.46 | polyonymous | I think uml should do |
21:08.52 | CoreDump|home | nice |
21:09.37 | polyonymous | hmm... after `poweroff` seems to be '3 0' |
21:09.50 | polyonymous | 3 for default (gentoo) |
21:10.14 | polyonymous | so, I think, you need to check against allowed runlevels. |
21:10.28 | CoreDump|home | ouch |
21:10.30 | polyonymous | like 6 for reboot, 0 for poweroff. anything else? |
21:10.52 | CoreDump|home | and "5" after the user hit reset... |
21:11.02 | polyonymous | Umm.. :( |
21:12.09 | polyonymous | well, it's okay to disallow this reset runlevel, isn't it? |
21:12.13 | jayja1 | _polyonymous: so, I think, you need to check against allowed runlevels. |
21:12.19 | jayja1 | sorry -> quoting |
21:12.33 | jayja1 | do we have a inittab on zaurus where we have the allowed runlevels ? |
21:12.37 | jayja1 | we could grep them from there. |
21:12.49 | polyonymous | jayja1, allowed for altboot, not just allowed runlevels. |
21:13.18 | polyonymous | I think it's only halt and reboot.... 0 and 6 |
21:13.50 | jayja1 | _polyonymous :: o.k. I understand. |
21:14.29 | CoreDump|home | hmm do you guys know another, better, way to check if we are at INIT time or not? |
21:14.53 | polyonymous | Absense of /proc filesystem? |
21:15.01 | CoreDump|home | hmmmm |
21:15.22 | CoreDump|home | but "mount" ready /proc/mounts heh |
21:15.26 | CoreDump|home | reads |
21:15.41 | polyonymous | CoreDump|home, test -f /proc/cmdline |
21:15.49 | CoreDump|home | yeah |
21:15.54 | CoreDump|home | sounds good |
21:15.56 | polyonymous | cmdline is the first thing that came into my head |
21:16.41 | polyonymous | /proc/version is probably a better choice |
21:16.44 | polyonymous | but doesn't really matter. |
21:17.06 | CoreDump|home | if test -f /proc/cmdline -a "$1" != "-force" |
21:17.12 | CoreDump|home | try it =) |
21:17.13 | polyonymous | ok |
21:17.37 | jayja1 | _CoreDump:: altboot is your baby? |
21:17.41 | CoreDump|home | yep |
21:18.01 | jayja1 | just looked in bb-file ;o). |
21:18.01 | polyonymous | shutdown went fine : |
21:18.02 | polyonymous | :) |
21:18.10 | CoreDump|home | famous last words hehe |
21:18.15 | bam_ | mke2fs, doesnt exist...? |
21:18.23 | polyonymous | aaargh!! doesn't power on again :))) |
21:19.25 | polyonymous | Hey, what password? :) |
21:19.30 | bam_ | or mkfs.ext2, so how does one make a ext2fs with OZ? |
21:19.45 | polyonymous | bam_, where are you in? |
21:19.51 | CoreDump|home | bam_: install e2fstools |
21:19.56 | bam_ | x-term with su |
21:20.15 | bam_ | cant that be done via the feed? |
21:20.20 | CoreDump|home | yes |
21:20.24 | polyonymous | anyway, CoreDump|home it worked. |
21:20.29 | CoreDump|home | the feed is pretty complete |
21:20.34 | CoreDump|home | polyonymous: excellent |
21:20.49 | CoreDump|home | I'll check that in tomorrow, thanks! |
21:20.54 | polyonymous | but what does it do? |
21:21.13 | polyonymous | I mean, it runs that "last selection" 1... |
21:21.27 | CoreDump|home | which is the default boot |
21:21.49 | CoreDump|home | it displays a 3 or 4 second timeout in which you can press any key to pop up the menu |
21:22.06 | CoreDump|home | don't tell me that didn't work either heh |
21:22.07 | polyonymous | Can I make a menu item that just execs real init? |
21:22.13 | bam_ | are the feeds in the install correct and up-to-date? |
21:22.23 | CoreDump|home | polyonymous: sure |
21:22.41 | CoreDump|home | run_module() { |
21:22.41 | CoreDump|home | exec $REAL_INIT "$INIT_RUNLEVEL" |
21:22.41 | CoreDump|home | exit 0 |
21:22.41 | polyonymous | Okay. Because it's strange way to boot as if nothing has happened in my opinion... |
21:22.41 | CoreDump|home | } |
21:22.49 | CoreDump|home | that's the default boot |
21:23.24 | polyonymous | Why does it do all that cardmger/pivot_root instead? |
21:23.37 | CoreDump|home | ahhhhh |
21:23.43 | CoreDump|home | ~lart spitz |
21:23.50 | CoreDump|home | i know what that is |
21:23.53 | polyonymous | ~lart yourself :) |
21:24.11 | CoreDump|home | it is the retarded spitz default boot which is no longer needed in 2.6 |
21:24.15 | bam_ | ~lart polyonymous |
21:24.30 | polyonymous | ~lart itself |
21:24.38 | polyonymous | smartass! |
21:24.40 | CoreDump|home | hehe |
21:24.49 | bam_ | ~lart ibot |
21:25.02 | bam_ | well I tried |
21:25.06 | jaku | does it work bluetooth with 5500? |
21:25.35 | CoreDump|home | polyonymous: it would be probably easier to just install altboots akita.ipk |
21:26.01 | polyonymous | I think I'll just change run_module :) |
21:26.14 | CoreDump|home | http://oz.hentges.net/openembedded/altboot/latest-snapshot/ |
21:26.57 | polyonymous | do you really think it's easier than changing 00-Default? :) |
21:26.57 | CoreDump|home | or that, yes |
21:27.45 | CoreDump|home | I'd love to dump spitz/borzoi kernel 2.4 support |
21:27.57 | polyonymous | Isn't it dumped yet? |
21:28.02 | CoreDump|home | nope |
21:28.10 | bam_ | yea, thought it was already dumped... |
21:28.24 | jayja1 | Some of you having problem with linking of libs on 5500 or other units, when installing ipk to cf (vfat filesystem) ?? |
21:28.34 | CoreDump|home | well, i was talking about altboot =) |
21:28.42 | CoreDump|home | 2.4 shall die in the next version |
21:28.43 | bam_ | ipkg search shows nada |
21:28.58 | polyonymous | CoreDump|home, I think it would be natural for altboot to drop it as well. |
21:29.32 | jayja1 | problem with linking .. I wrote a patch for ipkg-link for that problem today. |
21:29.53 | jayja1 | _Coredump :: someone of the zaurus team that could check it ? |
21:29.56 | polyonymous | after this 2.4 altboot opie came up with a message about new storage card :) |
21:30.15 | CoreDump|home | polyonymous: lol |
21:30.40 | CoreDump|home | jayja1: in theory yes, practically I'm off to bed Real Soon ;) |
21:30.43 | bam_ | bbs.. |
21:30.46 | polyonymous | Okay, now it's booting 'normal boot' all right. |
21:31.10 | jayja1 | o.k. should I sent it to you ? |
21:31.11 | polyonymous | still waiting for gpe build. |
21:31.18 | CoreDump|home | sure |
21:31.25 | jayja1 | how by mail or here ? |
21:31.49 | polyonymous | do_rootfs started :) |
21:32.03 | CoreDump|home | polyonymous: nice! |
21:34.09 | jayja1 | ALL:: In which package do I find diff |
21:34.15 | polyonymous | diffutils? |
21:34.18 | polyonymous | (just a guess) |
21:34.21 | jayja1 | I'll chekc |
21:35.08 | jayja1 | _polyonymous :: nope |
21:35.17 | polyonymous | strange. |
21:35.25 | CoreDump|home | fileutils? |
21:35.35 | jayja1 | I'll check |
21:36.05 | jayja1 | _CoreDump :: do you want unified diff for patch "ipkg-link" ? |
21:36.40 | CoreDump|home | jayja1: -Nur would be perfect |
21:37.12 | jayja1 | _CoreDump :: ok |
21:37.26 | polyonymous | build completed :) |
21:39.06 | polyonymous | scping image. |
21:40.33 | galvAtr0n | did u manage to build screen 4 z |
21:43.45 | polyonymous | galvAtr0n, I forgot. Probably yes |
21:44.02 | polyonymous | .. |
21:44.07 | polyonymous | I'll check in a moment |
21:44.18 | galvAtr0n | cool will it work on 5600 ? |
21:45.21 | polyonymous | aren't there stock screen? |
21:46.04 | jaku | how can I sync calendar with outlook? |
21:46.13 | polyonymous | no clue. |
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21:48.15 | galvAtr0n | is anyone else having problems with putty where it just hangs after a while |
21:48.41 | galvAtr0n | it was working fine |
21:51.27 | jayja1 | CoreDump: sent you patch for ipkg-link |
21:51.41 | jayja1 | CoreDump: looking forward to your feedback |
21:52.27 | CoreDump|home | jayja1: thanks! No feedback today tho |
21:52.42 | CoreDump|home | n8 all |
21:53.05 | jayja1 | CoreDump_ :: good n8 |
22:14.19 | galvAtr0n | no my z is stuck in an infinite loop of configuring multimodal and installing opera to root during boot. how do i stop it ??? |
22:16.35 | galvAtr0n | looks like a reflash again :( |
22:18.06 | galvAtr0n | poly did that app work then ? |
22:22.36 | galvAtr0n | i just flashed but my Z is still gets stuck at configuring multimodal installing opera... why is it still trying to do this after flash ??? |
22:32.56 | polyonymous | weird. what package have you installed, anyway? |
22:33.38 | galvAtr0n | ;) the multimodal opera package |
22:33.45 | galvAtr0n | do i need to nand it |
22:34.30 | polyonymous | no idea. where have you got it from? |
22:35.27 | galvAtr0n | its the ipk from ibm but it wants to install to root which doesnt have enough space |
22:35.44 | polyonymous | ipk from ibm for what system? |
22:35.45 | galvAtr0n | but it tries at boot |
22:35.49 | galvAtr0n | zaurus |
22:35.58 | galvAtr0n | ive used it on sharp rom |
22:37.12 | galvAtr0n | but how do i stop the infinite loop at boot ? |
22:37.23 | galvAtr0n | Fn C doesnt work |
22:37.59 | galvAtr0n | and i flashed it twice but it still tries to install at boot |
22:38.23 | polyonymous | I have no idea what is the layout on your z... |
22:38.59 | galvAtr0n | anyone know where i can get a 5600 stock NAND file |
22:39.27 | polyonymous | Not me. The first thing I've done was nand backup :) |
22:39.47 | galvAtr0n | ;) |
22:40.05 | galvAtr0n | anyone got the sharp rom nand for 5600 ? |
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22:47.01 | ba1 | afternoon |
22:47.58 | galvAtr0n | ECCERR0R have you got a nand backup plz ??? |
22:48.21 | galvAtr0n | or maybe you could make1 quick plz |
22:48.23 | galvAtr0n | ;) |
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22:52.27 | ba1 | what are the working feeds for the 3100? |
22:52.36 | polyonymous | for 3.5.4.1 alpha? |
22:52.50 | ba1 | shouldnt home appear in mount? |
22:52.52 | ba1 | yup |
22:53.02 | ba1 | just installed |
22:53.05 | polyonymous | depends on your layout. for me it shouldn't :) |
22:53.13 | polyonymous | use 3.5.4 feed |
22:53.29 | polyonymous | http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/faq/ |
22:53.59 | ba1 | so the ones that are installed by default are ok |
22:54.18 | polyonymous | I have no idea what are the ones installed by default :) |
22:54.31 | polyonymous | I have installed my own build, so I've immediately put in my own feed :) |
22:54.53 | ba1 | cool |
22:55.08 | ba1 | what web browser works currently |
22:55.34 | polyonymous | opie or gpe? |
22:55.40 | ba1 | gpee |
22:55.54 | polyonymous | there is this mini web browser installed by default, I believe. |
22:56.26 | ba1 | crashes on oesf when postingg |
22:56.56 | ba1 | is there a task switcher applet? |
22:56.59 | polyonymous | Well, I wouldn't use Z for it, anyway :) |
22:57.06 | polyonymous | I don't use gpe, yet. |
22:57.21 | polyonymous | And use browser on my desktop, anyway :) |
22:57.44 | ba1 | ok |
22:58.46 | polyonymous | in fact, I'm going to try to get opera working. |
22:59.37 | galvAtr0n | could u try and get the multimodal.ipk working plz |
22:59.45 | galvAtr0n | multimodal opera |
23:00.09 | polyonymous | galvAtr0n, nor likely, but give me the link? |
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23:04.18 | galvAtr0n | have a look at this it may solve opera on OZ http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?s=5cf671f8262a3d77a7a6ba718ca9ce80&showtopic=11673&st=0&p=76916&#entry76916 |
23:07.36 | galvAtr0n | http://www.handhelds.org/hypermail/opie/96/9660.html |
23:08.34 | galvAtr0n | ECCERR0R are you here today dude ? |
23:11.23 | polyonymous | so to download multimodal I have to register?? |
23:12.18 | galvAtr0n | 2 secs ill send it if u like its free |
23:12.22 | ba1 | keep getting error on ipkg mgr....any ideas? |
23:13.20 | polyonymous | Yeah, I'd rather not bother registering |
23:13.34 | polyonymous | baldurk, what ipkg mgr? |
23:13.49 | polyonymous | ba1, I mean :) |
23:17.20 | galvAtr0n | how do i mount /root as read/write ? |
23:17.28 | polyonymous | mount / -o remount,rw |
23:17.37 | polyonymous | you mean root filesystem or /root/ ? |
23:18.53 | galvAtr0n | root fs |
23:19.04 | polyonymous | then mount / -o remount,rw is correct |
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23:19.18 | galvAtr0n | cool |
23:19.42 | galvAtr0n | i just nand my Z ;) |
23:37.37 | polyonymous | galvAtr0n, so what's with multimodal.ipk? |
23:39.53 | galvAtr0n | that is opera+voice combined |
23:40.07 | polyonymous | galvAtr0n 2 secs ill send it if u like its free |
23:40.43 | galvAtr0n | oh ok 2 secs i need to open ports so i can DCC |
23:40.59 | polyonymous | ah, paranoid :) |
23:41.16 | galvAtr0n | just trying to install it to home again |
23:41.44 | galvAtr0n | DCC doesnt work with my router on default settings |
23:42.04 | polyonymous | I just made another opera package work :) |
23:44.51 | galvAtr0n | looks like multimodal will work too (on /home) but you have to run the ipkg install twice with a ipkg-link in between |
23:45.30 | polyonymous | hmm... there seems to be voice in this opera. |
23:45.48 | galvAtr0n | cool ;) what ver ? |
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23:46.16 | polyonymous | opera_7.55.6079_arm.ipk |
23:46.44 | galvAtr0n | does it start with a pizza demo ? |
23:48.07 | polyonymous | hmm... |
23:48.39 | polyonymous | it strats with something about java |
23:48.57 | polyonymous | oh well.. |
23:49.15 | polyonymous | I think I should go to bed. |
23:49.45 | polyonymous | and what is your opera version? |
23:49.56 | galvAtr0n | same |
23:50.07 | galvAtr0n | how com i cant cd /.opera ? |
23:50.41 | galvAtr0n | sorry nevermind |
23:50.53 | polyonymous | it's pointing nowhere, likely. |
23:51.00 | polyonymous | Well, sleep well, I'm outta here. |
23:56.52 | galvAtr0n | how do i make /home my default location for ipkg ? |
23:58.52 | polyonymous | no idea, I have microdrive :) |
23:59.00 | polyonymous | Anyway, I'm gone. |