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10:58.36champhttp://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9709862327
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11:01.26johnXlooks like a nokia 770
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11:11.32alan|laptophello
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11:50.19essaharhi everybody
11:50.35essahardid some one know if I can convert my imate jam to Linux
11:54.11essaharplz help
11:55.42johnXI don't think anyone here knows about that
11:56.05johnXIIRC, the imate jam is also known as the htc magician so it might be worth searching on google for that as well
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11:56.55essaharsorry I'm beginner with pocket PC what's that mean htc magician
11:57.34essaharsince the morning I'm looking for any howto without success
12:02.42johnXIt's just another name that the imate jam is sold under
12:03.33johnXhttp://wiki.xda-developers.com/ has some info about linux on various HTC phones
12:03.48johnXIt looks like Linux doesn't run on the imate jam yet
12:05.28essaharok thanks
12:05.31essahar:(
12:05.59johnXthey might get linux working on it eventually
12:06.04johnXhow long has it been on the market?
12:06.38essaharthe imate jam is in the market since more than two years
12:09.14johnXah
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12:23.16essaharthanks john, in xda developer they said that work is in prgress, the only user who success to do something, he just booted the kernel
12:23.51johnXah, well that's good to hear...I was just going by what I saw on the website
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13:25.06ashikaseusing OZ/Opie latest, it appears that the QTextCodec for EUC-JP isn't included
13:25.25ashikaseis there any way to add, perhaps through an ipk?
13:25.35ashikaseor does it require a complete recompile?
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15:08.25champhttp://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9709862327
15:08.58johnXwhy are you selling it champ?
15:11.17darmounotice there is a pdaxrom image of fbreader for gtk+ will that work with oz?
15:12.27johnXI think I tried it once, and that ipk works mostly
15:12.50johnXyou have OE setup though, right?
15:13.23johnXI made a .bb for it a while back that should work
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15:36.20darmougreat thanks johnX
15:36.49darmouIs there a java version that works with openzaurus?
15:37.00darmouI tried sablevm but it seems buggy
15:37.43darmoublackdown seems ok for console apps but could not get it to work for graphic ones
15:38.46johnXI have no idea about java
15:38.51johnXIt might be worth asking on OE
15:39.04johnXthe .bb for fbreader is here: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=720
15:43.23johnXI just submitted additional comments to the bug report that should make it actually build
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16:28.26tanqis vlc in the feeds?
16:28.37tanqi haven't checked yet...
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16:40.59jayja1quote
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16:54.06CoreDump|homehi
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19:04.56jayja1CoreDump: hi
19:05.08jayja1CoreDump: what is bbl
19:06.15jayja1CoreDump: ic -  bbl = be back later.
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19:39.35redguyRP: I did test the SD with the alpha2 prerelease you let me download the day before yesterday
19:39.51redguyRP: it turned out just fine, everything seems to work
19:42.09redguyRP: I wanted to post a full report to openzaurus-devel, and I actually did, but I did it through gmane.org and I am experiencing some trouble. I have a feeling that it might not reach the list, that's why I am telling you here.
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19:44.53redguyRP: There is another issue though: somehow the SD cards are not unmounted automagically and a kernel oops occurs. Nothing bad is happening when I unmount the filesystem on the card before popping it out.
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19:53.54polyonymousredguy, hmm.. at which point SD card should be automagically umounted?
19:54.23redguypolyonymous: hmm don't know... shouldn't it be?
19:54.48polyonymousredguy, I think not. It should be mounted when inserted but how does the system know when you're not going to use it anymore?
19:55.16redguypolyonymous: hmm some timeout perhaps? something like autofs does?
19:55.18polyonymousI think you'd also need CF or USB mindreader to accomplish the task.
19:55.27CoreDump|homeredguy: there is no such thing
19:55.45polyonymousCoreDump|home, no automounter?
19:55.57CoreDump|homeno umount on timeout
19:56.10polyonymousWell, automount does it indeed.
19:56.18polyonymousBut it is not going to solve the problem.
19:56.31polyonymousNormally people pop out cards IMMEDIATELY after they're done with it.
19:56.39redguytrue
19:57.10polyonymousSo doesn't make sense to waste effort on automount.
19:57.32polyonymousBut some point'n'click umounter would be nice.
19:57.53polyonymousOn the other hand there's no such thing like point'n'click with touchscreens :)
19:57.57redguyanyways, it's great to have this new SD card working
19:58.22polyonymousWho gives blutooth kernel stuff his love and care, btw?
19:59.19polyonymousHmm.. can't build recent libxine... I take it it's known bug?
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20:04.46RPredguy: If you're not using the filesystem, you can nomally eject it fine
20:06.24polyonymousRP: do you have any idea why I can't unload bluetooth stuff once I have hciattached it? With billionton BT card?
20:06.49RPpolyonymous: I know there is a bug open about this somewhere
20:07.24polyonymousRP, Yes, there is a bug about not attaching and my note about being unable to "detach" it afterwards.
20:07.29redguyRP: maybe, I'll stick to unmounting the card before ejecting it though
20:07.42RPredguy: Its certainly safer
20:07.48polyonymousRP, I think it implies you don't have a solution/workaround/whatever?
20:08.06RPpolyonymous: There is a solution in some bug report...
20:08.11RPWEll, a workaround
20:08.27polyonymousRP, I think there is a solution to attaching, but I haven't seen a word about unloading stuff.
20:08.42polyonymousAnd I've got way beyond attaching. It works fine for me, but only once...
20:11.13polyonymousThis is the bug I know of: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=740
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20:53.55polyonymoushmm... libxine bb finds magick wand in /usr/bin and tries to use it... with all logical consequences.
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21:46.22tanqis anyone good with sftp configuratiom?
21:46.44tanqi'm trying to configure sftp so it will be the same for everyone who uses it over ssh
21:46.57tanqi know this is a bit off topic for the channel but...
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22:24.19polyonymousUmm... is  the correct kernel upgrade path -- upgrade ipks and then put updater along with zImage to CF card and flash?
22:26.12CoreDump|homewell, if you manually install the new modules, than that would be enough, yes
22:27.19polyonymousWhat do you mean "manually"?
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22:27.45polyonymousWouldn't ipkg upgrade do the job?
22:27.56CoreDump|homewell I'm not sure an ipk upgrade would catch the version jump 2.6.15 -> 2.6.16
22:28.02polyonymousprovided I have them in feed.
22:28.14polyonymouswell, I tried ipkg -test upgrade and it seems it would.
22:28.25CoreDump|homewell, go ahead then ;)
22:28.35polyonymousAnyway, provided that I can take care of upgrading ipks I guessed the right way :)
22:28.56CoreDump|homeindeed
22:29.03polyonymousOkay, thank you.
22:29.23CoreDump|homepolyonymous: you should rebuildyour image, fonts are _finally_ fixed
22:29.26polyonymousBut I think I'd rather backup my system first :)
22:29.37polyonymousheh, Okay, will do.
22:29.44polyonymousSpeaking of fonts.
22:29.55polyonymousDoes anything provide unicode fonts for console?
22:30.02CoreDump|homedunno sry
22:30.21polyonymousThat's okay. My  guess is "no", but I'll look into it when I get time.
22:30.32CoreDump|homei usually avoid font configuration like the plaque
22:30.57polyonymousSince I have to resort to ssh/mutt for my mail needs (no decent mail reader!) I thought I'd love to do it from console as well :)
22:31.16CoreDump|homeheh
22:31.24polyonymousYes, that's unnice thing to do but at some point I do it on every machine and then I try not to ever touch it.
22:32.17CoreDump|home=)
22:32.39polyonymousLooks like developers do not care much about non-latin character sets...
22:33.03CoreDump|homelooks like there aren't many devs needing them
22:33.37polyonymousYup. But I do need them :) For some reason not everyone emails me in English :)
22:33.53CoreDump|home3 more entries on my todo list and 3.5.4.1 is ready to rock
22:34.07polyonymousand roll (back) ?
22:34.18CoreDump|homei hope not =D
22:34.23polyonymous:)
22:35.12polyonymousThat's what I'm doing now...
22:35.28CoreDump|homeanything unusual?
22:35.40polyonymousSubmitting patches to opie bugtracker, but somehow I doubt anyone will look at them :)
22:36.01CoreDump|homeopies development has.....slowed down a "bit" :\
22:36.02polyonymousWell, finding out why opie-player doesn't work, fixed multikey keymap loading, etc.
22:36.18polyonymousYeah, I've peeked at cvs... 10 month old at best
22:36.42CoreDump|homeiirc opie moved to svn
22:36.59CoreDump|homehrw|gone: knows more
22:37.10polyonymousHmm.. There's only a link to cvsweb on opie page...
22:37.44polyonymousWell, as I don't think my so far trivial patches interfere with recent changes it doesn't matter much
22:38.28polyonymousThe patches are really trivial so far. like http://opie-bugs.oszine.de/view.php?id=1766 http://opie-bugs.oszine.de/view.php?id=1764 http://opie-bugs.oszine.de/view.php?id=1530
22:39.12polyonymousAnd for what I can tell by "recently modified" bugs there are not many people around :)
22:40.50CoreDump|homeyeah
22:40.50CoreDump|homei'd hate to see opie die
22:40.50polyonymousSo would I...
22:40.50polyonymousAt least I'm submitting patches, not just bugs, so there is a slight hope that someone will take time to apply them...
22:41.12CoreDump|homeright
22:41.37polyonymousIf not, I wonder if it would make sense to add patches to OE or what?..
22:42.57CoreDump|homewell, if noone applies them, OE is the way to go
22:43.45polyonymousBut if this is how the things are going to be in the future -- maintaining patches solely in OE will become cumersome :)
22:45.42CoreDump|home=)
22:45.56CoreDump|homeiirc hrw|gone has cvs access to opie
22:46.23polyonymousNice job for him to apply patches to the code he doesn't maintain...
22:46.44CoreDump|homehe is Mr. "Opie 1.2.1" after all hehe
22:46.56polyonymouspoor thing he is :)
22:47.01CoreDump|hometrue
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23:04.39polyonymousit's a pity opie applications have no 'About' box to look up version :)
23:05.23CoreDump|homeright
23:05.44CoreDump|homeenough for today, n8!
23:05.52polyonymoussleep well
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