| 00:07.07 | *** join/#openzaurus h2 (n=machiv@user-0c937ui.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 00:11.59 | *** join/#openzaurus GeoKM (n=keith@ppp47-111.lns2.syd6.internode.on.net) |
| 00:17.27 | *** join/#openzaurus Geo_KM (n=keith@ppp47-111.lns2.syd6.internode.on.net) |
| 00:29.16 | *** join/#openzaurus Geo_KM (n=keith@ppp47-111.lns2.syd6.internode.on.net) |
| 00:31.53 | *** join/#openzaurus Geo_KM (n=keith@ppp47-111.lns2.syd6.internode.on.net) |
| 00:40.47 | *** join/#openzaurus Shdwdrgn (n=shdwdrgn@sourpuss.net) |
| 01:42.56 | *** join/#openzaurus darmou (n=darmou@203-214-74-65.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 01:43.33 | darmou | when I turn the zaurus on it has a black screen. |
| 01:44.03 | darmou | pressing the on button does not do anything at all, is it just the battery needs to recharge before turning it on again? |
| 01:44.06 | darmou | I have a 3100 |
| 01:44.23 | darmou | It was working fine last night before I shut the lid |
| 01:44.40 | NAbyss | darmou: Might be, yes... put it on the charger for 20 min then attempt a boot |
| 01:44.54 | darmou | ok thanks NAbyss |
| 01:45.20 | darmou | is the charger for the 5500 compatible with the c3100 |
| 01:45.22 | NAbyss | Also, it might be just that the backlight's turned off; try hitting a few keys/tapping the screen |
| 01:45.31 | NAbyss | No idea, I've only got a 3100 |
| 01:45.47 | NAbyss | If the 5500's charger provides 5v @ 1A though, it should be the same. |
| 01:47.08 | darmou | yes the specs did look the same, ok it works now, just needed to be charged I think |
| 01:47.38 | darmou | thanks for your help much relieved |
| 01:47.42 | *** join/#openzaurus GeoKM (n=keith@ppp47-111.lns2.syd6.internode.on.net) |
| 01:48.00 | darmou | I only bought it yesterday:) |
| 01:48.24 | darmou | I'm using gpe and can't get sound on the 3100 NAbyss any ideas? |
| 01:48.46 | NAbyss | No idea, I don't use gpe |
| 01:48.56 | darmou | cat mywav.wav > /dev audio works but can't play music |
| 01:49.09 | NAbyss | I'd suggest installing another audio player |
| 01:49.12 | darmou | well I reflashed in opie, same problem |
| 01:49.23 | darmou | I've tried lots of audio players:( |
| 01:49.33 | NAbyss | Hm, no idea then.. |
| 01:49.39 | darmou | I think it may be more fundamental problem |
| 01:50.02 | darmou | what should the hd partitions look life for the z? |
| 01:50.23 | NAbyss | Should be 3 partitions, IIRC... one root, one /home, and one /media/hdd |
| 01:51.46 | NAbyss | I've got mine setup like this: |
| 01:51.58 | NAbyss | /dev/hda1 1 373 187960 |
| 01:52.07 | NAbyss | /dev/hda2 374 471 39392 |
| 01:52.21 | NAbyss | /dev/hda3 472 7936 3762360 |
| 01:52.29 | NAbyss | run fdisk /dev/hda, then 'p' |
| 01:53.46 | *** join/#openzaurus GeoKM (n=keith@ppp47-111.lns2.syd6.internode.on.net) |
| 01:54.31 | darmou | test |
| 01:54.54 | darmou | "/dev/hda1 1 292 147136+ 83 Linux |
| 01:55.07 | darmou | "/dev/hda2 293 371 39816 83 Linux" |
| 01:55.27 | darmou | "/dev/hda3 372 7936 3812760 83 Linux |
| 01:55.39 | darmou | is my partition table |
| 01:55.42 | NAbyss | Yeah, that soujnds about right |
| 01:55.57 | darmou | ok so that's no the sound problem then |
| 01:56.14 | darmou | thanks for that |
| 01:57.24 | *** join/#openzaurus angom_h (n=angom@red-corp-201.130.165.94.telnor.net) |
| 01:57.29 | darmou | the feeds are messed up in alpha1 so hopefully they will be fixed in alpha1 |
| 01:57.35 | darmou | alpha2 even |
| 01:57.48 | darmou | in /etc/ipkg |
| 01:58.32 | darmou | I wonder if it's the 2.6 kernel that has the sound problems? No I would have thought it would have been reported |
| 01:58.56 | darmou | Are you using 2.6 NAbyss? |
| 01:59.17 | darmou | brb |
| 01:59.41 | NAbyss | I've got 2.6 running fine with sound right at this second |
| 01:59.50 | NAbyss | Via xmms-embedded |
| 02:10.34 | *** join/#openzaurus sociopath (n=user@net34-155.netkaster.ca) |
| 02:11.07 | jnc | darmou: you might have the suspend/resume problem |
| 02:11.35 | jnc | i have a problem with openzaurus kernel and my C3000 |
| 02:12.26 | jnc | if left suspended for more than 3-4 minutes, sometimes 20 minutes even, the device goes into a bad state |
| 02:12.44 | jnc | to get it back i must remove all power and use the reset button |
| 02:13.17 | jnc | reportedly it has only happened to my C3000, not other people's C3000 |
| 02:13.39 | jnc | darmou: please do some testing to discover the cause of your C3100's trouble and let me know |
| 02:14.30 | NAbyss | jnc: I've had that issue before with my 3100 |
| 02:15.01 | NAbyss | I can't be more specific than that... it's very much a sporadic problem |
| 02:18.46 | darmou | ok thanks jnc but no probs reported with sound? |
| 02:19.19 | darmou | Thanks NAbyss for that info about your setup |
| 02:19.35 | darmou | ok I'll do some googleing about how sound works in linux |
| 02:22.59 | *** join/#openzaurus darmou (n=darmou@203-214-74-65.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 02:26.50 | *** join/#openzaurus punk-ass (n=user@ptbynynas01pool0-a120.ptbyny.tds.net) |
| 02:51.41 | *** join/#openzaurus tchan (n=tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan) |
| 03:02.59 | *** join/#openzaurus GeoKM (n=keith@ppp47-111.lns2.syd6.internode.on.net) |
| 03:13.03 | *** join/#openzaurus GeoKM (n=keith@ppp47-111.lns2.syd6.internode.on.net) |
| 03:44.07 | *** join/#openzaurus GeoKM (n=keith@ppp47-111.lns2.syd6.internode.on.net) |
| 04:01.36 | *** join/#openzaurus bronson (n=bronson@pool-68-160-56-174.bos.east.verizon.net) |
| 04:57.19 | *** join/#openzaurus bronson_ZZz (n=bronson@pool-68-160-56-174.bos.east.verizon.net) |
| 05:07.03 | *** join/#openzaurus johnX (n=john@c-24-16-192-158.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 05:08.23 | *** join/#openzaurus bronson_ZZz (n=bronson@pool-68-160-56-174.bos.east.verizon.net) |
| 05:20.30 | *** join/#openzaurus _law_ (n=law@mail.stiftadmont.at) |
| 05:41.59 | *** join/#openzaurus ashikase (n=ashikase@g230-97.sanyo.co.jp) |
| 05:45.01 | *** join/#openzaurus darmou (n=darmou@203-214-74-65.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 05:53.31 | ashikase | when trying to build something (outside of bitbake), I'm getting 'undefined references' to AtiCore_* methods in libqte |
| 05:53.42 | ashikase | any idea what I'm doing wrong? |
| 05:53.49 | ashikase | or does libqte depend on another lib? |
| 05:56.07 | ashikase | I would just use ldd, but as someone mentioned on the forum, ldd doesn't seem to be working currently |
| 05:57.46 | *** join/#openzaurus Bompo (n=Bompo@V16f7.v.pppool.de) |
| 05:58.19 | *** join/#openzaurus GeoKM (n=keith@ppp47-111.lns2.syd6.internode.on.net) |
| 05:58.42 | *** part/#openzaurus Bompo (n=Bompo@V16f7.v.pppool.de) |
| 06:00.54 | johnX | Unfortunately, I have no idea about libqte stuff. You might get a better response on #oe (when the devs are there) or maybe #opie (though I've never been on that channel...) |
| 06:01.47 | ashikase | #opie seems to always be dead |
| 06:02.07 | ashikase | I'll try #oe |
| 06:02.51 | johnX | also, if you don't get an answer on #oe now, it might be worth asking again in ~2 hours when people start to show up there |
| 06:12.24 | *** join/#openzaurus GeoKM (n=keith@ppp47-111.lns2.syd6.internode.on.net) |
| 06:20.45 | *** join/#openzaurus GeoKM (n=keith@ppp47-111.lns2.syd6.internode.on.net) |
| 07:44.18 | *** join/#openzaurus alan|home (n=alan@ARouen-151-1-51-81.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 08:11.06 | *** join/#openzaurus JiniDog (n=jini@V9b50.v.pppool.de) |
| 08:16.52 | CoreDump|home | morning all |
| 08:19.30 | hrw|work | hi CoreDump|home |
| 08:19.47 | webmind | morning |
| 08:20.31 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: have some time? rebuilded images once more - now all stuff is same as in RP images |
| 08:20.55 | CoreDump|home | hrw|work: I'll try in a few minutes |
| 08:21.05 | hrw|work | cool |
| 08:35.07 | hrw|work | someone want to test x/qt for oz 3.5.4? |
| 08:36.36 | *** join/#openzaurus bronson_ZZz (n=bronson@pool-68-160-56-174.bos.east.verizon.net) |
| 08:40.48 | *** join/#openzaurus GeoKM (n=keith@ppp47-111.lns2.syd6.internode.on.net) |
| 08:41.29 | XorA | hrw|work: you fixed it up? |
| 08:42.12 | hrw|work | XorA: I just built it |
| 08:42.33 | hrw|work | ~lart udev & usbnet |
| 08:42.37 | XorA | hrw|work: it will segfault when you use virtual keyboard and on C7x0 rotation will be wrong and cause corrupt screen |
| 08:42.56 | hrw|work | someone know how to make udev ifdown/ifup usb0 on insert? |
| 08:48.26 | *** join/#openzaurus obergix[work] (n=olivier@inf-berger.int-evry.fr) |
| 08:53.38 | XorA | hrw|work: your root on SD still going? |
| 08:53.59 | hrw|work | XorA: ? |
| 08:54.08 | XorA | hrw|work: no lockups yet? |
| 08:55.53 | hrw|work | XorA: no |
| 08:56.06 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: your distro lack md5 for files |
| 08:57.32 | hrw|work | shit. forgot to rebuild task-bootstrap to get altboot in.. |
| 08:58.30 | CoreDump|home | hrw|work: thanks |
| 08:58.57 | CoreDump|home | use upgrades for that then |
| 08:59.13 | alan|home | w/qt ? is that what i think it is ? |
| 08:59.19 | alan|home | x/qt* |
| 08:59.37 | hrw|work | alan|home: kind of xserver running under qtopia |
| 08:59.44 | hrw|work | alan|home: xqt.sourceforge.jp |
| 08:59.49 | alan|home | mmm... interesting |
| 09:00.05 | hrw|work | alan|home: rather not working correctly under OZ |
| 09:00.29 | alan|home | i hope it will someday |
| 09:00.40 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: I want to add altboot into alpha2 images so have to rebuild them |
| 09:01.03 | alan|home | can't do without a good word processor... abiword under QT would be usefull. |
| 09:01.20 | CoreDump|home | right, but you could just put the new task-bootstrap into upgrades ;) |
| 09:02.29 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: what if gpe-image will get fscked again? |
| 09:02.59 | CoreDump|home | hmm |
| 09:03.35 | hrw|work | thats why I want to add altboot |
| 09:07.16 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: query.. |
| 09:09.49 | *** join/#openzaurus johnX (n=john@c-24-16-192-158.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 09:10.15 | hrw|work | hmm.. good time to update 'donations' page |
| 09:10.27 | CoreDump|home | heh |
| 09:10.40 | hrw|work | restructure it |
| 09:11.12 | hrw|work | add info about some stuff which got offer and passed |
| 09:11.16 | hrw|work | to other |
| 09:11.40 | CoreDump|home | ah, that would be good yeah |
| 09:13.01 | CoreDump|home | darn, my opie-image is too big |
| 09:13.05 | hrw|work | for example I got collie ~month ago and passed it to _law_ |
| 09:17.42 | *** join/#openzaurus ashikase (n=ashikase@ntt3-ppp36.gifu.sannet.ne.jp) |
| 09:19.55 | CoreDump|home | a month or two ago someone wanted to donate some cash to me. As is do not have paypal I sent him to you. I hope you got something? |
| 09:20.25 | *** join/#openzaurus polyonymous (n=hacker@pD95396A4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 09:21.17 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: which email domain? |
| 09:22.56 | CoreDump|home | dunno, was a privmsg at oesf.org |
| 09:23.25 | hrw|work | ah.. |
| 09:26.13 | hrw|work | still restarting on gpe-login... |
| 09:30.26 | XorA | CoreDump|home: damnation, gtk doesnt render right at 200dpi :-( |
| 09:31.29 | *** join/#openzaurus eumel (n=eumel@p54820F44.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 09:31.31 | CoreDump|home | XorA: hmm? |
| 09:31.48 | XorA | CoreDump|home: try loading a spread sheet in gnumeric |
| 09:32.03 | XorA | CoreDump|home: all the text ends up being twice the height of a cell |
| 09:32.48 | CoreDump|home | crap |
| 09:34.12 | XorA | ~lart gtk+ |
| 09:34.58 | XorA | alsa gtk blocks the on screen buttons, try using the ts buttons while in gnumeric :-( |
| 09:35.57 | CoreDump|home | well, we are not even running at 200, only at 160 heh |
| 09:36.14 | XorA | CoreDump|home: we are? |
| 09:36.22 | CoreDump|home | yeah |
| 09:36.29 | CoreDump|home | pb suggested it |
| 09:37.09 | CoreDump|home | scaling Xft.dpi to a point where default font sizes work was a lot easier than patching the living hell out of a bazillion apps =) |
| 09:37.29 | XorA | where is Xft.dpi? |
| 09:37.47 | CoreDump|home | /etc/X11/Xdefaults |
| 09:38.16 | XorA | hmm, isnt in mine |
| 09:38.31 | CoreDump|home | that was the original problem btw. Xft.dpi was set to 100, causing the font problems we were seeing... |
| 09:41.03 | CoreDump|home | are you running .dev? |
| 09:41.30 | CoreDump|home | maybe i didn't push it there yet |
| 09:41.55 | XorA | CoreDump|home: yes, and it doesnt appear to be in repo |
| 09:42.32 | CoreDump|home | xserver-common IIRC |
| 09:43.28 | XorA | CoreDump|home: yeah, just checked, there is a -Xft.dpi: 100 but no + in the patch |
| 09:43.50 | CoreDump|home | will have a look later |
| 09:43.53 | XorA | -dpi 200, Xft.dpi 200 is spannered here :-( |
| 09:45.44 | XorA | -dpi 200, Xft.dpi 100 works better for me |
| 09:47.19 | CoreDump|home | only because your fonts settings are adjusted for 100DPI |
| 09:47.32 | CoreDump|home | set the font-size to "7" and set 160 DPI |
| 09:50.06 | hrw|work | http://www.hrw.one.pl/donations/ - what do you think about layout? |
| 09:50.18 | XorA | CoreDump|home: I have to set font font size of 5 to be reasonable, and gnumeric is unusable |
| 09:51.14 | CoreDump|home | hrw|work: looks good! |
| 09:51.31 | CoreDump|home | XorA: ahh, 5 is ok,too. A matter of taste I thing ;) |
| 09:51.43 | XorA | CoreDump|home: at 7 I can read screen from 100 yards :-) |
| 09:52.01 | CoreDump|home | lol |
| 09:52.31 | XorA | CoreDump|home: I think im sticking with the "wrong" values for now, but Ill leave .dev alone as hopefully the graphical mess will prompt someone to figure out the key |
| 09:52.36 | XorA | secret of font magic |
| 09:52.44 | CoreDump|home | http://hentges.net/tmp/screenshots/Zaurus/Akita/GPE/3.5.4.1-alpha2/other.jpg |
| 09:53.04 | CoreDump|home | this is 16DPI w/ font-size 7 or 6 |
| 09:53.10 | hrw|work | laaarge |
| 09:53.44 | CoreDump|home | huh? |
| 09:53.58 | CoreDump|home | that's where "taste" comes in heh |
| 09:55.04 | hrw|work | 'Calculator' should be visible |
| 09:55.28 | CoreDump|home | a smaller setting makes my eyes hurt :( |
| 09:55.40 | XorA | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.27765.png |
| 09:55.59 | CoreDump|home | ouch |
| 09:56.18 | hrw|work | thats good size (prefer Sans anyway) |
| 09:56.41 | CoreDump|home | guys, If you want to set the default size to that go ahead, I'm the last person to complain heh |
| 09:56.59 | CoreDump|home | but jesus, that's too darn small for my taste lol |
| 09:57.07 | XorA | CoreDump|home: it makes little difference as there is obviously a problem in gtk+ somewhere with font sizes :-( |
| 09:57.26 | CoreDump|home | XorA: w/ font-size 8 in gnumeric the size is about right |
| 10:01.39 | CoreDump|home | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.28156.png |
| 10:02.25 | XorA | CoreDump|home: the problem is that the cell in gnumeric should grow with the font size, it doesnt because something is fscked in the rendering |
| 10:02.47 | CoreDump|home | ahh now I understand |
| 10:02.52 | *** join/#openzaurus sociopath (n=user@net34-155.netkaster.ca) |
| 10:03.00 | XorA | CoreDump|home: its plainly a bug (tm) |
| 10:03.48 | XorA | bit me last night when I tried to load my spelllist in gnumeric and I couldnt read it :-( |
| 10:04.39 | CoreDump|home | hmm |
| 10:04.50 | XorA | I guess this page explains the mess :-( http://scanline.ca/dpi/ |
| 10:04.55 | CoreDump|home | I never used gnumeric outside of OZ so I didn't know =) |
| 10:14.12 | *** join/#openzaurus mithro (n=tim@ppp246-117.static.internode.on.net) |
| 10:14.12 | *** join/#openzaurus George (i=authdeni@vm.gwright.org.uk) |
| 10:14.13 | *** join/#openzaurus pgas (n=user@dsl-88-218-22-2.customers.vivodi.gr) |
| 10:14.13 | *** join/#openzaurus BleedAway (i=whocares@saus04.usc.es) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 10:14.13 | *** join/#openzaurus XorA (n=dp@81-178-123-104.dsl.pipex.com) |
| 10:14.13 | *** join/#openzaurus oce (i=nobody@antenni.nette.fi) |
| 10:14.13 | *** join/#openzaurus webmind (i=webmind@feather.perl6.nl) |
| 10:14.13 | *** join/#openzaurus synth (i=irc@straylight.sh.nu) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 10:14.15 | *** join/#openzaurus webmind_ (i=webmind@feather.perl6.nl) |
| 10:14.41 | *** join/#openzaurus TheMasterMind1 (n=aman@residents-liberty-potomac-129-174-185-149.residents.gmu.edu) |
| 10:14.41 | *** join/#openzaurus George_ (i=authdeni@vm.gwright.org.uk) |
| 10:14.44 | *** join/#openzaurus oce (i=nobody@antenni.nette.fi) |
| 10:14.44 | *** join/#openzaurus BleedAway (i=whocares@saus04.usc.es) |
| 10:30.56 | *** join/#openzaurus bubak (n=martin@194.228.84.87) |
| 10:38.39 | *** join/#openzaurus zinga (n=arnaudb@186.80-203-227.nextgentel.com) |
| 10:43.28 | *** join/#openzaurus Bompo (n=Bompo@V16f7.v.pppool.de) |
| 10:43.49 | *** part/#openzaurus Bompo (n=Bompo@V16f7.v.pppool.de) |
| 10:45.41 | *** join/#openzaurus iDeJ (n=iDeJ@dslb-088-068-044-121.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 10:49.27 | *** join/#openzaurus GeoKM (n=keith@ppp47-111.lns2.syd6.internode.on.net) |
| 10:52.37 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.1449.png is my gpe desktop |
| 10:53.43 | CoreDump|home | rotate applet? why this? |
| 10:54.05 | hrw|work | because I used it once sometime ago? |
| 10:54.28 | pgas | (because auto-rotation was not working?) |
| 10:54.37 | CoreDump|home | it is working now =) |
| 10:56.06 | hrw|work | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.1872.png is gnumeric problem |
| 10:56.20 | *** join/#openzaurus sociopath (n=user@net34-155.netkaster.ca) |
| 10:56.21 | CoreDump|home | right |
| 11:19.47 | *** join/#openzaurus mithro (n=tim@ppp246-117.static.internode.on.net) |
| 11:19.47 | *** join/#openzaurus pgas (n=user@dsl-88-218-22-2.customers.vivodi.gr) |
| 11:19.47 | *** join/#openzaurus XorA (n=dp@81-178-123-104.dsl.pipex.com) |
| 11:19.47 | *** join/#openzaurus synth (i=irc@straylight.sh.nu) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 11:35.39 | hrw|work | lardman|work: can you merge two threads on oesf? |
| 11:36.55 | hrw|work | 18785 & 18783 - or move 18783 into OZ/Common |
| 11:59.30 | CoreDump|home | i wonder if there is a sound format where "cat file > /dev/audio" plays correctly |
| 11:59.51 | hrw|work | My gpe-image WORKS!!! |
| 12:00.02 | hrw|work | YES YES! |
| 12:00.33 | TheMasterMind1 | CoreDump|home: .au or .wav used to work when i tried that a few years ago |
| 12:01.04 | CoreDump|home | hrw|work: yay :) |
| 12:01.10 | CoreDump|home | TheMasterMind1: hmmm |
| 12:56.54 | *** join/#openzaurus darmou (n=darmou@203-214-74-65.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 12:57.53 | darmou | hi all |
| 12:58.02 | *** join/#openzaurus bronson (n=bronson@pool-68-160-56-174.bos.east.verizon.net) |
| 12:58.10 | CoreDump|home | hi darmou |
| 12:58.52 | hrw|work | bronson: hi |
| 12:58.55 | hrw|work | hi darmou |
| 12:59.22 | bronson | Hola hrw. |
| 12:59.36 | bronson | Dunno if you've seen berlios but MW is up and running. |
| 12:59.48 | bronson | I haven't had a chance to prepopulate some pages yet though. |
| 13:00.03 | bronson | (it's in /wiki) |
| 13:00.34 | bronson | I'm afraid if I don't get some skeleton organization up there first, it'll become a mess in no time. :) |
| 13:01.11 | hrw|work | bronson: please move it to / from /wiki/ |
| 13:01.47 | bronson | hrw|work, ok, I'll do that later today. |
| 13:01.57 | hrw|work | thx |
| 13:06.10 | darmou | When is alpha2 likely to come out? |
| 13:07.33 | *** join/#openzaurus bronson (n=bronson@pool-68-160-56-174.bos.east.verizon.net) |
| 13:08.17 | bronson | What tha f? Dunno why my IRC client can't seem to maintain a TCP connection... |
| 13:10.12 | hrw|work | darmou: I will probably release it today/tomorrow |
| 13:10.36 | darmou | Sounds good, hopefully it will fix my sound problem sigh |
| 13:14.58 | *** join/#openzaurus ashikase_ (n=ashikase@ntt3-ppp39.gifu.sannet.ne.jp) |
| 13:15.24 | darmou | Ahh got it working, must have been a setting in alsamixer |
| 13:15.58 | darmou | I went through all the settings and unmutted everything |
| 13:16.31 | *** join/#openzaurus mrz80 (i=1000@caledonia.cns.ufl.edu) |
| 13:16.37 | darmou | there were quite a few different sections so it was a bit confusing but at least I have something working now |
| 13:16.42 | *** join/#openzaurus kakos (n=kakos@c-24-8-182-72.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 13:17.10 | darmou | looking forward to the release tomorrow |
| 13:18.07 | darmou | one more thing has anyone used ipkg-link mount? I can't seem to get it to work, worked fine for 5500 but I can't seem to add packages using alpha1 |
| 13:18.12 | bronson | I've never understood Alsa's everything muted by default fetish. |
| 13:18.59 | bronson | Everything at 50% would make sense. Or even 20%. But TONS of people get tripped up by some obscure control being at 80% and muted. |
| 13:19.33 | bronson | Anyhow. :) |
| 13:19.40 | darmou | bronson is there a graphical alsamixer? |
| 13:19.47 | bronson | For Z? I don't know. |
| 13:19.58 | bronson | I haven't gotten sound working on my 5500 yet. Still on the todo list. |
| 13:20.13 | darmou | hrwlwork I have my packages installed in /mnt/card/packages/ |
| 13:20.32 | darmou | do I need to solt link to get ipkg-link to know where they are? |
| 13:21.03 | hrw|work | ipkg-link mount /mnt/card/packages/ iirc |
| 13:22.19 | darmou | hrwlwork that just prints out a usage |
| 13:22.59 | darmou | ipkg-link mount /mnt/card/packages/ |
| 13:23.02 | darmou | produces |
| 13:23.12 | darmou | *** Command: add |
| 13:23.13 | darmou | *** Locating package |
| 13:23.13 | darmou | Package "gaim-protocol-jabber" not found. |
| 13:23.20 | darmou | etc etc |
| 13:23.41 | darmou | So it's finding the package list but can't seem to find them |
| 13:24.56 | darmou | for collie ipkg-link mount /mnt/card works fine, I'm not sure it anything has changed for the 3100 release but it's very stange |
| 13:26.46 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: ping |
| 13:26.53 | bubak | darmou: dont have OZ installed, but the command amixer scontents should show up the mixer controls (of course it is not a gui but cli :) |
| 13:26.53 | CoreDump|home | pong |
| 13:26.56 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: you updated ipkg-link recently... |
| 13:27.40 | CoreDump|home | that shouldn't be the cause of that message as it only affects "lib*" files |
| 13:30.05 | lardman|work | darmou: make sure the mount point exists in /etc/ipkg.conf |
| 13:31.18 | darmou | lardman|work what should the line be to add the sd card mount point? |
| 13:31.39 | lardman|work | darmou: what do you have in there by way of dest lines? |
| 13:31.51 | darmou | just dest root / |
| 13:32.22 | *** join/#openzaurus dj_segfault (n=david@packardhell.aptima.com) |
| 13:32.32 | lardman|work | That'll be why it doesn't work |
| 13:32.47 | CoreDump|home | but how could you install apps to cf in the first place heh |
| 13:32.48 | lardman|work | Can't quite remember why it happens this way though |
| 13:33.08 | darmou | yes so what do I need to add dest /mnt/card ? well they were installed using my collie |
| 13:33.24 | lardman|work | dest sd /mnt/card/packages |
| 13:33.26 | lardman|work | probably |
| 13:33.30 | darmou | ok thanks |
| 13:33.35 | lardman|work | depends what the layout is on the card already... |
| 13:33.37 | hrw|work | media NOT mnt |
| 13:33.44 | lardman|work | sorry ;) |
| 13:33.51 | dj_segfault | Aren't they symlinked? |
| 13:34.06 | hrw|work | they are but for compatibility |
| 13:34.12 | hrw|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:34.38 | darmou | cool working now |
| 13:35.05 | CoreDump|home | hrw|work: could you give me a ls -al of /dev/snd, /dev/audio and /dev/dsp please? |
| 13:35.47 | hrw|work | moment |
| 13:36.03 | CoreDump|home | no hurry |
| 13:36.09 | dj_segfault | hrw|work: (side note) For unknowable reasons, after speaking to you yesterday, I uninstalled alsa, and sound started working after the next reboot. So my only remaining issue is the lockup on pressing suspend. Everything else works. |
| 13:37.31 | hrw|work | ~blame sharp |
| 13:37.32 | ibot | ACTION blames sharp for all the evil in the world |
| 13:37.44 | hrw|work | ~curse lineo too |
| 13:37.46 | ibot | May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, lineo too ! |
| 13:38.35 | hrw|work | time to write some posts for oz.org |
| 13:38.36 | dj_segfault | hrw|work: Oh trust me, I know where it started. That, and collie's proprietary sd driver holding us back to a 2.4 kernel. |
| 13:38.55 | hrw|work | dj_segfault: I blame sharp+lineo from time to time |
| 13:39.09 | darmou | dj_segfault any progress with an open sd driver for collie? |
| 13:39.21 | bronson | Or, as a stopgap, has anyone looked at shimming the sd driver? |
| 13:40.06 | hrw|work | shimming? |
| 13:40.09 | dj_segfault | darmou: I'm not a kernel developer or even an OZ developer, but not as far as I know. It's a proprietary chip being used in a bizzare way. |
| 13:40.26 | bronson | I suppose the data structures would get pretty hard to shim. |
| 13:40.32 | dj_segfault | bronson: You mean putting a wrapper around it, like ndiswrapper? |
| 13:40.39 | bronson | dj_segfault, exactly. |
| 13:40.52 | hrw|work | when tosa/2.6 will be working fully then maybe we will get someone working on sd for collie/2.6 |
| 13:41.19 | dj_segfault | Is tosa 5600? |
| 13:41.41 | bronson | Slide a layer in to translate requests from the crappy driver to proper 2.6 calls. |
| 13:41.45 | NAbyss | ~tosa |
| 13:41.46 | ibot | well, tosa is the Sharp SL-6000 PDA, or a dog (see http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/tosa.htm) |
| 13:42.15 | bronson | hrw|work, is sd the only major problem holding up 2.6 for Collie? |
| 13:42.20 | dj_segfault | As I understand it, only the 5500 (and 5000) use this chip in this twisted and evil way. |
| 13:42.52 | hrw|work | bronson: no |
| 13:43.01 | hrw|work | 5600 is poodle |
| 13:43.18 | hrw|work | bronson: it lack charge control and some other stuff |
| 13:43.37 | hrw|work | one day I will boot 2.6.16 on collie to check how it looks |
| 13:43.40 | NAbyss | dammit, why can't the SD specs just be open? </rhetorical-rant> |
| 13:44.03 | bronson | Wow. Sounds like it's still a big project. |
| 13:44.14 | hrw|work | ~locomo |
| 13:44.16 | ibot | methinks locomo is a completely undocumented chip in the Sharp Zaurus |
| 13:44.25 | hrw|work | and locomo suxx due to that |
| 13:44.43 | NAbyss | hrw|work: sharp won't provide anything? |
| 13:45.03 | hrw|work | NAbyss: exactly |
| 13:45.39 | dj_segfault | ... And, as I said, it's being misused at that. From what I've heard, the chip is capable of using all channels, and it is Sharp's use of the chip that limits the number of channels used, ruining performance and limiting the kinds of devices that can go in there. |
| 13:46.21 | NAbyss | Makes you wonder why they don't just acquiesce.. it's not like they haven't sold the hardware. |
| 13:47.51 | CoreDump|home | yay, alboot plays a low-volume beep on alsa systems during boot now |
| 13:48.18 | dj_segfault | There is no possible way for them to make more money from the 5500, so they have nothing to lose by giving out the info. On the other hand, they have nothing to gain by giving it out. They would be exposing the extent of their stupidity. And it's not like they need to preserve their perceived goodwill towards the 5500 users ;) |
| 13:48.47 | hrw|work | dj_segfault: get contact(s) at Sharp Japan and provide docs ;) |
| 13:48.48 | CoreDump|home | they've probably licensed the IP from somebody. |
| 13:49.06 | darmou | Is there an rc file for mini browser? And some doco to configure it? |
| 13:49.17 | NAbyss | dj_segfault: True, true.. never underestimate the power of embarassment |
| 13:50.48 | darmou | NAbyss especiall in Japan, you all that avoid losing face stuff |
| 13:51.14 | darmou | mini-browser = gpe-mini-browser |
| 13:54.05 | lardman|work | Does the poodle also use the locomo? |
| 13:54.58 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=18680&st=0&#entry122848 - some users are idiots? |
| 13:55.06 | hrw|work | lardman|work: yes but not for sd/mmc |
| 13:55.46 | CoreDump|home | hrw|work: sometimes I want to cry... |
| 13:55.48 | lardman|work | hrw|work: Thought it was in there somewhere. Ah, just saw your comment about charging, etc. |
| 13:56.39 | hrw|work | lardman|work: can you move thread 18783 into OZ/Common? |
| 13:56.50 | hrw|work | http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/2006/04/12/problem-with-wifi-card/ |
| 13:56.54 | lardman|work | yep, hang on a tick |
| 13:57.48 | lardman|work | done |
| 13:58.19 | hrw|work | thx |
| 13:58.27 | lardman|work | hrw|work: Sorry, I completely forgot about the hostap test I said I'd do |
| 13:58.42 | hrw|work | fisrt I was thinking about merging 18783 with 18785 but they are not same now |
| 13:58.48 | hrw|work | lardman|work: np |
| 13:59.17 | lardman|work | hrw|work: Regarding the numerous threads, if people can start writing docs and pulling out the useful info then it won;t matter so much |
| 13:59.32 | lardman|work | as only new threads will be relevant at all |
| 13:59.44 | hrw|work | yep |
| 14:00.29 | lardman|work | I must admit the forum is getting a bit too unwieldy for my liking now - so many similar topics, pretty hard to find what I want to even knowing who poasted things and with good search terms |
| 14:00.47 | lardman|work | s/poasted/posted |
| 14:01.14 | hrw|work | too much noise |
| 14:02.51 | lardman|work | yeah, that's life though |
| 14:04.10 | bronson | Is there a name for the SL-5000/5500/5600 form factor? |
| 14:04.30 | lardman|work | portrait? |
| 14:04.33 | bronson | (trying to organize the wiki; don't want to duplicate discussion on the keyboard and CF slot limitations on each page) |
| 14:04.52 | bronson | So the Zaurus has two main form factors: portrait and clamshell? |
| 14:05.00 | darmou | Ahh that damn suspend/resume problem happened again, fortunatly I remembered the "press the reset key to fix" workaround |
| 14:05.15 | lardman|work | yep, though I'm not sure how much is shared between models with a given screen orientation |
| 14:05.21 | darmou | The first time it happed I thought something awful had happened to the Z |
| 14:05.49 | lardman|work | bronson: is this the berlios wiki? |
| 14:05.58 | bronson | lardman|work, yep |
| 14:05.59 | CoreDump|home | uh oh, "4 revs" out. I wonder what I just pushed... |
| 14:06.08 | lardman|work | darmou: yesh, the horrible white-out happening |
| 14:06.21 | lardman|work | bronson: Is there an URL? |
| 14:06.23 | bronson | lardman|work, I'm just trying to get some skeleton pages up there for organization before announcing it. |
| 14:06.30 | lardman|work | bronson: Cool :) |
| 14:06.40 | bronson | lardman|work, http://openzaurus.berlios.de/wiki/ |
| 14:06.51 | bronson | But beware, I've spent all of 5 minutes filling it in so far. :) |
| 14:07.03 | hrw|work | bronson: please move /wiki/ to / |
| 14:07.12 | bronson | hrw|work, I know, I know... :) |
| 14:07.39 | bronson | It means editing some config files. I'll do it before this hour is up. |
| 14:07.43 | lardman|work | bronson: Stick in a top level Documentation link (would HowTos go under that?) and a FAQ link |
| 14:08.08 | bronson | okey dokey |
| 14:08.18 | lardman|work | bronson: If you just plan to list the models I'd not bother breaking them up, just stick up a list, there aren't that many |
| 14:08.35 | hrw|work | bronson: can I get mainpage and fill models? |
| 14:08.59 | bronson | hrw|work, just a sec. |
| 14:09.11 | hrw|work | oka |
| 14:09.40 | lardman|work | I wonder whether the structure should be to spilt the howtos by model (which I think will require duplication of work), or have specific subsections in each HowTo? |
| 14:09.46 | lardman|work | The former is done here: http://www.oesf.org/index.php?title=Zaurus_How-To_Docs |
| 14:10.01 | hrw|work | /HowTo/WPA |
| 14:10.15 | hrw|work | /HowTo/USB-Networking |
| 14:10.29 | hrw|work | I would use that style |
| 14:10.34 | lardman|work | Agreed |
| 14:10.52 | hrw|work | OZ is OZ nevermind which model it use - only kernel release matter |
| 14:11.22 | lardman|work | Yes, perhaps a table listing things that do or don't work with a given kernel for each machine might be a way to go |
| 14:11.29 | hrw|work | /HowTo/USB-Networking/Zaurus-2.4 /HowTo/USB-Networking/Zaurus-2.6 would be overkill but you got idea |
| 14:11.47 | lardman|work | Pulling together the current pages on the c7x0, cx000, 6k, 2.6.x status etc |
| 14:12.15 | hrw|work | /Docs/Linux-Kernel-2.6-Status? |
| 14:12.30 | bronson | OK guys, I'm going to move the wiki site. |
| 14:12.42 | bronson | No editing until I give the OK. |
| 14:12.43 | lardman|work | hrw|work: yep something like that |
| 14:12.53 | hrw|work | or /Docs/Status-of-2.6-Linux-Kernel-on-Zaurus |
| 14:13.27 | *** join/#openzaurus s0ciopath (n=user@net34-155.netkaster.ca) |
| 14:13.57 | lardman|work | FAQ section could do with sections for completed questions, and ones that require answering, so as not to clog up the useful info |
| 14:23.07 | hrw|work | hmm.. do we need copying info about models? |
| 14:23.18 | CoreDump|home | grrr why isn't there a man or info page for "set" on debian |
| 14:24.11 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: 'set' is part of bash - man bash |
| 14:24.18 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: of better: pinfo bash ;) |
| 14:24.23 | CoreDump|home | ahh thanks! |
| 14:24.34 | hrw|work | bronson: I would rather provide OZ infos for models |
| 14:24.50 | bronson | hrw|work, I don't understand? |
| 14:26.10 | hrw|work | http://openzaurus.berlios.de/wiki/index.php/Collie contain technical data. I would rather add info which kernel is used, how much flash is available for user, from which OZ version it is supported |
| 14:26.16 | hrw|work | that kind of info |
| 14:26.44 | hrw|work | bronson: pure Zaurus stuff let exist in oesf wiki |
| 14:27.06 | bronson | I wasn't sure how to handle that info... That will change every time a new OZ is released. |
| 14:27.25 | bronson | OK, stats go in OESF wiki. |
| 14:27.45 | bronson | I'd hate to have to update 16+ Wiki pages every time a new OZ is spun. |
| 14:28.41 | hrw|work | bronson: I will create C7x0 page now to show what I meant |
| 14:28.43 | bronson | Is there a dog name for the SL-5000? Is it also a Collie? |
| 14:28.51 | bronson | hrw|work, hang on. |
| 14:29.01 | webmind_ | tosa isn't a dog name is it ? |
| 14:29.03 | bronson | I'm just trying to save my changes before moving the site. |
| 14:29.39 | lardman|work | bronson: yes, 500D & 5500 are collie |
| 14:30.15 | lardman|work | bronson: tosa is a fighting dog: http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/tosa.htm |
| 14:30.28 | bronson | Ah. Whoops. Good thing it's a wiki. :) |
| 14:30.29 | lardman|work | oops, wrong person |
| 14:30.46 | lardman|work | webmind_ I should have sent that to |
| 14:30.46 | hrw|work | bronson: yes |
| 14:30.48 | hrw|work | ~collie |
| 14:30.49 | ibot | methinks collie is sharp sl-5500 and sl-5000d, or a dog |
| 14:31.13 | hrw|work | 5000/5500 - 5000d and 5500g are nicknames rather then model names |
| 14:31.44 | hrw|work | hmm.. I need mediawiki formatting help |
| 14:31.51 | bronson | Is there a way to get ibot to dump everything he knows? :) |
| 14:31.58 | hrw|work | dont know |
| 14:32.19 | bronson | hrw|work, I'm happy to answer wiki formatting qs. |
| 14:32.39 | webmind | thanks :) |
| 14:33.11 | webmind | is the naming scheme from sharp or from OpenZaurus ? |
| 14:34.26 | hrw|work | sharp |
| 14:34.34 | hrw|work | webmind: look in /proc/cpuinfo |
| 14:35.53 | lardman|work | though the collie does have two variants that are different in their RAM sizes |
| 14:35.58 | darmou | I wish timezones would work properly sigh |
| 14:36.14 | hrw|work | lardman|work: 5000 contra 5500 |
| 14:36.29 | lardman|work | versus? yes |
| 14:36.29 | darmou | I hate having to do the ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo .. localtime cause it does not work all the time |
| 14:36.31 | CoreDump|home | there actually _is_ a 5500g |
| 14:36.36 | hrw|work | bronson: first get it working again ;) |
| 14:36.42 | CoreDump|home | it has a german keyboard layout |
| 14:36.43 | lardman|work | yes indeed, the keyboard is different isn't it |
| 14:36.52 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: which is 5500 with qwertz and AltGr |
| 14:36.58 | bronson | hrw|work, lardman|work: Is there any particular license you'd like all content to be under? |
| 14:37.01 | CoreDump|home | hrw|work: correct |
| 14:37.05 | bronson | Creative Commons? |
| 14:37.08 | lardman|work | ok, stick to collie then ;) |
| 14:37.17 | hrw|work | bronson: never read CC license... |
| 14:37.22 | lardman|work | I'm not bothered, don't know much about licences |
| 14:37.34 | bronson | OK, I'll use CC for now. That seems to be the most accepted. |
| 14:37.37 | hrw|work | what is wrong in pure GPLv2? |
| 14:37.58 | bronson | hrw|work, it's really hard to apply to docs. Leaves all sorts of legal loopholes. |
| 14:38.04 | hrw|work | aha |
| 14:38.20 | CoreDump|home | I wonder if one can use collies piezo as speaker with OZ kernel? |
| 14:38.20 | bronson | That's why they created the Gnu FDL. |
| 14:39.03 | bronson | Problem is, the FDL is not generally considered very free. |
| 14:39.09 | ashikase | OZ uses /etc/init.d/keymap to change the keymap, right? If that is not called, will the keys default to Sharp's original values? Basically, I want to reenable the Japanese keys |
| 14:39.13 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: proper patch is in OE but not applied |
| 14:39.24 | CoreDump|home | i see |
| 14:39.29 | hrw|work | ashikase: they default to kernel keymap |
| 14:39.35 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: comment is in recipe |
| 14:39.48 | ashikase | hrw|work: that much I understand, but what is the default keymap? |
| 14:40.15 | hrw|work | ashikase: clamshells does not default to japanese as 2.6 is made by english speakers |
| 14:40.22 | hrw|work | ashikase: anyway feel free to edit keymap |
| 14:40.26 | CoreDump|home | hrw|work: I'd be enough if I could make the thing beep |
| 14:40.47 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: opie lose alarms/keyklick/touchscreen click |
| 14:40.55 | ashikase | hrm... anyone know off hand where I can find what values I need to set for the Japanese keys? |
| 14:41.08 | hrw|work | ashikase: boot 2.4 kernel and run showkey |
| 14:41.08 | darmou | goodnight all |
| 14:42.52 | bronson | OK, I got rid of /wiki |
| 14:42.57 | bronson | Site's back up. |
| 14:43.37 | bronson | hrw|work, Now I'm very interested to hear what you propose for the C7x0 page. |
| 14:43.51 | bronson | http://openzaurus.berlios.de |
| 14:43.55 | hrw|work | will do |
| 14:44.02 | bronson | Oops, I lost the logo. |
| 14:44.14 | bronson | Small issue. Does anyone have a decent logo I can use? |
| 14:44.23 | bronson | That other junky one was the best I could find via Google image search. |
| 14:45.26 | hrw|work | remove it for now - we need to finish graphic contest first |
| 14:45.58 | bronson | Well, it's the $wgLogo flower right now. |
| 14:46.04 | bronson | Guess I'll just set it to a blank gif. |
| 14:47.02 | hrw|work | http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/2006/04/10/second-alpha-release-of-openzaurus-3541/ |
| 14:47.07 | hrw|work | CELEBRATE |
| 14:49.52 | lardman|work | hrw|work: Might be best to change the "this directory" to the url itself |
| 14:50.19 | *** join/#openzaurus bronson (n=bronson@pool-68-160-56-174.bos.east.verizon.net) |
| 14:50.23 | lardman|work | I understand a fair few people missed it and were asking where the download was on the last release (so I changed it) |
| 14:50.33 | hrw|work | ok |
| 14:55.40 | hrw|work | bronson: The requested URL /wiki/index.php was not found on this server. |
| 14:55.47 | hrw|work | bronson: when I click something |
| 14:55.55 | bronson | hrw|work, get rid of /wiki |
| 14:55.56 | hrw|work | The requested URL /wiki/index.php/Collie was not found on this server. |
| 14:56.06 | bronson | Oh, are the pages cached? |
| 14:56.26 | hrw|work | bronson: its cached |
| 14:56.52 | bronson | bah. A workaround is to edit the page and save it again. |
| 14:57.09 | bronson | I'll clear the entire cache as soon as I remember how. :) |
| 14:59.00 | hrw|work | changed and is ok |
| 15:01.03 | hrw|work | http://openzaurus.berlios.de/index.php/C7x0 |
| 15:02.52 | bronson | I'll get rid of that index.php while I'm at it. |
| 15:03.32 | hrw|work | cool |
| 15:03.33 | bronson | hrw|work, looks fine. |
| 15:03.44 | bronson | You were talking about adding working OZ versions though? |
| 15:03.58 | bronson | (like, which OZ versions work on which devices...?) |
| 15:05.58 | hrw|work | moment |
| 15:06.08 | hrw|work | look now |
| 15:07.37 | bronson | Looks excellent. |
| 15:09.23 | *** join/#openzaurus s0ciopath (n=user@net34-155.netkaster.ca) |
| 15:09.54 | *** join/#openzaurus BleedAway (i=whocares@saus04.usc.es) |
| 15:25.59 | XorA | tomcat on a PDA?????? |
| 15:33.06 | hrw|gone | cu |
| 15:48.24 | bronson | XorA, that's probably not as bad as OpenOffice... |
| 15:49.35 | XorA | I thought I was insane being a gnumeric user |
| 16:05.08 | CoreDump|home | =) |
| 16:38.44 | *** join/#openzaurus pleemans (n=peter@d54C24BC0.access.telenet.be) |
| 16:52.47 | *** join/#openzaurus ibot (i=ibot@pdpc/supporter/active/TimRiker/bot/apt) |
| 16:52.47 | *** topic/#openzaurus is OpenZaurus user discussion/support channel | developer discussion in #oe | http://www.openzaurus.org/ | Don't ask to ask, just ask. | Current release: 3.5.4 | Report OZ bugs at http://bugs.openembedded.org/ |
| 16:53.27 | lardman|work | urgh, berlios is a bit slow at this time of day :( |
| 16:54.09 | lardman|work | subpages still look for the index.php bit so don't seem to work for me |
| 16:54.27 | lardman|work | ah, or I could just edit the wiki I suppose |
| 16:56.46 | lardman|work | hmm. I see it's on the todo |
| 16:57.19 | lardman|work | bronson: ping |
| 16:57.53 | bronson | hola lardman. |
| 16:57.58 | bronson | Everything's broken righ tnow. |
| 16:58.03 | lardman|work | right :) |
| 16:58.07 | bronson | I'm making short URLs. |
| 16:58.07 | lardman|work | I was wondering ;) |
| 16:58.18 | bronson | I'll be done soon. Just wrestling with mod_rewrite. |
| 17:09.00 | *** join/#openzaurus tomimo (n=kurre@a80-186-64-246.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 17:29.46 | bronson | Oh man I'm ready to STRANGLE firefox. |
| 17:42.33 | bronson | Wow that was painful. |
| 17:43.38 | bronson | Both the MediaWiki and Firefox caches were lying to me. |
| 17:44.19 | bronson | And I guess berlios's database machine is just being hammered right now. |
| 17:44.44 | bronson | Oh well, I think that I've fixed everything. |
| 17:45.08 | bronson | If you find any page with broken links, editing it and immediately saving it should fix things. |
| 17:45.21 | bronson | http://openzaurus.berlios.de/ |
| 18:16.41 | *** join/#openzaurus hwtechnik (n=hwtechni@tor/session/external/x-9c31248f5a3fcf64) |
| 18:32.17 | bronson | OK, as far as I can tell, the wiki works 100%. |
| 18:32.39 | bronson | Now it's time to add content. ... somehow without creating a mess. :) |
| 18:57.05 | *** join/#openzaurus Bompo (n=Bompo@V16f7.v.pppool.de) |
| 18:59.24 | *** join/#openzaurus Bompo (n=Bompo@V16f7.v.pppool.de) |
| 19:00.21 | *** part/#openzaurus Bompo (n=Bompo@V16f7.v.pppool.de) |
| 19:18.15 | dhr | I procrastinate so much. I haven't flashed my 6000 with 3.5.4. How soon will 3.5.4.1 be ready? Will it be different/better enough to be worth waiting some more? |
| 19:32.27 | bronson | lardman|work, hrw|gone: I hope you guys will edit http://openzaurus.berlios.de/Style_Guide |
| 19:32.40 | bronson | Blow away anything in there that you don't agree with. |
| 19:34.55 | JustinP | dhr: 3.5.4.1 is for the clammshells |
| 19:54.16 | dhr | JustinP: thanks for the explanation |
| 20:41.31 | *** join/#openzaurus redguy (n=mati@ads171.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 20:42.21 | redguy | howdy, is there a ncurses frontend to ipkg? something similar to aptitude perhaps? |
| 20:43.06 | bronson | redguy, I haven't heard of one. |
| 20:43.07 | bronson | Why? |
| 20:43.51 | redguy | bronson: erm, why am I asking? |
| 20:44.05 | bronson | right. how is the graphical deficient? |
| 20:44.34 | redguy | bronson: well, you don't have it in the bootstrap image |
| 20:45.25 | bronson | ah, true. |
| 20:45.32 | bronson | The command line isn't hard to use though. |
| 20:45.46 | redguy | depends on how many packages you want to install :-) |
| 20:46.02 | redguy | got another question though |
| 20:46.11 | redguy | does OPIE use an X server? |
| 20:49.15 | CoreDump|home | redguy: nope |
| 20:50.41 | redguy | CoreDump|home: hrmm, so it can't run X apps like dillo2 for example? |
| 20:50.41 | CoreDump|home | correct |
| 20:50.43 | CoreDump|home | for X you'd need GPE |
| 20:52.22 | *** join/#openzaurus darkschneider (n=gab@213-140-6-96.ip.fastwebnet.it) |
| 21:18.16 | JustinP | bronson: the graphical installers are deficient in that they have mmemory leaks....and other problems... |
| 21:42.19 | *** join/#openzaurus kolla (n=kolla@62-20-189-146-no30.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 21:59.21 | redguy | JustinP: so is there a ncurses installer? |
| 22:05.03 | JustinP | redguy: no |
| 22:05.12 | JustinP | we pretty much all use the command-line ipkg |
| 22:05.43 | redguy | I can use it as well actually |
| 22:05.58 | redguy | but have a couple of questions regarding it |
| 22:06.40 | redguy | is it normal for ipkg search not finding packages (not working at all it seems) |
| 22:11.07 | *** join/#openzaurus ashikase (n=ashikase@ntt3-ppp39.gifu.sannet.ne.jp) |
| 22:55.39 | *** join/#openzaurus GeoKM (n=keith@ppp47-111.lns2.syd6.internode.on.net) |
| 23:27.00 | *** join/#openzaurus ugarit (n=ugarit@216-15-34-7.c3-0.129-ubr3.lnh-129.md.cable.rcn.com) |
| 23:51.18 | *** join/#openzaurus mithro (n=tim@203.63.126.9) |
| 23:54.01 | *** join/#openzaurus CoreDump|home (n=mhentges@hentges.net) |
