| 00:25.55 | CoreDump|home | JustinP: polyonymous: http://hentges.net/tmp/screenshots/Zaurus/Akita/Altboot/kexec/kexec04.jpg <- did I miss anything important? |
| 00:26.23 | CoreDump|afk | mehh w/o kexec04 of course... |
| 00:26.39 | JustinP | ? |
| 00:27.04 | polyonymous | Can't say right away, going to go sleep NOW ;-) But at a glance looks attractive ;-) |
| 00:27.33 | polyonymous | I'd maybe add a confirmation after command line. |
| 00:27.41 | JustinP | CoreDump|afk: dunno....I haven't actually used cmdline with kexec. I jusy kexec the kernel |
| 00:28.09 | polyonymous | Anyway, I'll leave it open and take a look in the morning |
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| 01:35.08 | rm_you|zaurus | err, anyone know what file controls a tab's icon in opie? .directory appears to only affect the O menu |
| 01:36.50 | TheMasterMind1 | there's a settings thing to change it isn't there? |
| 01:36.51 | TheMasterMind1 | maybe not |
| 01:39.55 | rm_you|zaurus | not that i see |
| 01:40.41 | rm_you|zaurus | it shows up in the launcher config thing with the right icon, and in the O menu with the right icon... |
| 01:41.23 | rm_you|zaurus | reload icons doesnt help... maybe i need to restart opie? |
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| 05:18.44 | obscurite | good evening |
| 05:19.10 | obscurite | any 3x00 users? |
| 05:19.29 | obscurite | I've been running openbsd on my 3100, and i'm tired of it. ;) |
| 05:19.50 | JustinP | I have a 3000 |
| 05:20.08 | obscurite | how do you like OZ on it? |
| 05:20.14 | JustinP | heh |
| 05:20.17 | JustinP | I'm biased |
| 05:20.21 | obscurite | ;) |
| 05:20.22 | JustinP | I like OZ quite a bit |
| 05:20.31 | JustinP | I'm the e17 maintainer for OE |
| 05:20.43 | JohnReimer | I have a 3200 but haven't install OZ yet... |
| 05:20.46 | JustinP | e is very nice on the 3000 |
| 05:20.56 | JustinP | current dev locks up, though, not sure why |
| 05:20.57 | obscurite | well, i'm tired of xwindows. it's not very useful on the z. |
| 05:21.02 | JustinP | sure it is |
| 05:21.14 | JohnReimer | I didn't like X windows on the Z |
| 05:21.17 | obscurite | I've been missing the snappiness of qtopia style GUI |
| 05:21.18 | JustinP | you just need a WM which makes it better for the Z |
| 05:21.30 | JustinP | GPE works very well |
| 05:21.30 | JohnReimer | it's fast enough... but the "feel" is wrong |
| 05:21.36 | JustinP | I use e but that's because...I like it ;-) |
| 05:21.37 | JohnReimer | it makes it too much like a desktop pc |
| 05:21.41 | obscurite | I was using fluxbox |
| 05:21.44 | obscurite | on open bsd |
| 05:21.47 | JustinP | ::shrug:: depends on what you want |
| 05:21.57 | JustinP | Opie is always also an option |
| 05:22.06 | obscurite | Do you pretty much stick to gpe? |
| 05:22.42 | obscurite | johnReimer - do you use opie? |
| 05:23.53 | JustinP | obscurite: I use X with e17 |
| 05:24.38 | JohnReimer | yes... but not on my 3200 |
| 05:24.41 | JohnReimer | C700 |
| 05:25.01 | JohnReimer | works pretty well there I'm using the most recent 3.5.4 alpha 2 release |
| 05:25.21 | JohnReimer | just some frustrating problems installing applications, though |
| 05:25.29 | JohnReimer | some won't symlink properly |
| 05:25.34 | JohnReimer | lots of errors |
| 05:26.01 | JohnReimer | I'm not sure if it's a problem with the package manager or busybox |
| 05:27.03 | obscurite | i enjoyed the graphical package manager in cacko, the games, the snappy UI |
| 05:27.09 | obscurite | it was PDA-ish, but it worked well |
| 05:27.32 | JohnReimer | the graphical package manager was MUCH easier to use on cacko/sharp |
| 05:27.34 | obscurite | openbsd has very limited selectoin of binary packages, so i find myself command line bound |
| 05:28.04 | JohnReimer | the OZ graphical package manager is somewhat confusing |
| 05:28.04 | obscurite | but I don't want to go back to manually installing packages and resolving dependencies no matter what |
| 05:28.43 | JohnReimer | that's what I've been doing on OZ :P |
| 05:29.00 | obscurite | damn, not encouraging |
| 05:29.08 | obscurite | I was hoping OZ would be my panacea ;) |
| 05:29.08 | JohnReimer | unfortunately, I haven't got working with the network packaging system |
| 05:29.28 | JohnReimer | obscurite... well OZ is capable of that, I'm sure... I just haven't tried using it yet... |
| 05:29.49 | JohnReimer | it probably works ... just haven't tested it |
| 05:30.15 | hobbs | ipt-get ;) |
| 05:30.34 | obscurite | hobbs, what zaurus toys do you use? |
| 05:30.52 | hobbs | obscurite: none until I get one again. My Z had an unfortunate encounter with a chair leg |
| 05:31.00 | obscurite | awwwwwww. |
| 05:31.16 | hobbs | obscurite: but I'm having good luck with this eBay auction so far. Decided to stop by to see what was new and cool in the case that I won :) |
| 05:31.28 | obscurite | what model are you bidding on? |
| 05:31.50 | hobbs | 5500. I'm still poor ;) |
| 05:32.13 | hobbs | I'd love a 6000L, but it just ain't happening. I think there were two dozen of those ever produced ;) |
| 05:32.14 | JohnReimer | get one with more memory.... the more memory the better with OZ :P |
| 05:32.20 | JohnReimer | 32 seems to be minimum |
| 05:32.26 | obscurite | I have my 5500 and my C3100 with me. I'm dying to flash them both with OZ soon as I have time. |
| 05:32.41 | obscurite | But i'm serioulsy confused about what to do with OZ. opie/gpe/etc |
| 05:32.45 | JohnReimer | flasing the 3100 doesn't seem to be as simple |
| 05:32.57 | obscurite | I was thinking opie would give me access to lots of qtopia apps |
| 05:33.01 | hobbs | I could live with a C-series, but I actually really liked the 5000/5500/5600/6000 form-factor :) |
| 05:34.08 | JohnReimer | obscurite, it does doesn't it? |
| 05:34.15 | JohnReimer | I see lots of them on the feeds! |
| 05:34.26 | JohnReimer | a quesiton |
| 05:34.46 | obscurite | I remember the first time someone showed me a zaurus. It was 1999. It was all in Japanese, and it was so cool. |
| 05:34.48 | JohnReimer | doesn't anybody know what the difference between the arm and arm5vTE series feeds are? |
| 05:35.07 | JohnReimer | I see those two packages types in the same directory but nowhere can I find a description of the variance |
| 05:35.57 | hobbs | JohnReimer: I think the XScale is an armv5te chip, and the SA1110 was an armv4l. But don't trust me too far :) |
| 05:37.29 | hobbs | google seems to be on my side though |
| 05:37.35 | JohnReimer | ah... that makes sense... maybe that's why the SDL version I installed wasn't working properly on the C700 |
| 05:38.03 | JohnReimer | C700 is Xscale |
| 05:38.17 | JohnReimer | and I installed the non-5vTE version |
| 05:38.32 | JohnReimer | and all the SDL based games would crash on run in OZ |
| 05:38.58 | obscurite | xscale should be able to run old arm code though right? |
| 05:39.11 | JohnReimer | that's what I would have thought :P |
| 05:39.29 | JohnReimer | I didn't understand the need for a separate version for many of these apps |
| 05:39.35 | JohnReimer | maybe just performance? |
| 05:39.38 | obscurite | yeah |
| 05:39.56 | JohnReimer | but it really didn't like the libSDL libs .... |
| 05:40.02 | hobbs | I'd expect, yeah. XScale is supposed to be a multimedia-optimized type chip |
| 05:44.30 | JustinP | obscurite: FYI, ipkg does dependency resolution for you |
| 05:44.52 | JustinP | obscurite: and no, the graphical package managers dn't work well, but if someone worked on them..... |
| 05:45.10 | obscurite | Can opie run all the sharp applications? |
| 05:45.13 | JustinP | no |
| 05:45.20 | obscurite | like all the stuff on elsix.org |
| 05:45.23 | JustinP | you can't run apps which were not compiled for OE |
| 05:45.27 | JustinP | OZ |
| 05:45.29 | obscurite | Ah. |
| 05:45.34 | JustinP | OZ uses softfloat to speed thigns up |
| 05:45.40 | obscurite | Right. |
| 05:45.48 | JustinP | if you compile with hardfloat the compat libs should allow it, though |
| 05:48.10 | JohnReimer | so it's best to use ipkg on the command line? |
| 05:49.08 | JohnReimer | OZ does have a good selection of software so I don't miss the sharp apps much |
| 05:49.20 | JohnReimer | although it would be nice if a few were available. |
| 05:49.22 | JustinP | yes, use ipkg on the command-line |
| 05:49.28 | JustinP | or fix the graphical installers.... |
| 05:49.29 | JohnReimer | ok |
| 05:49.45 | JustinP | none of the developers use them AFAIK |
| 05:49.47 | JohnReimer | ha... haven't got as far as the development system yet |
| 05:49.57 | JohnReimer | would be nice to get into that aspect, though |
| 05:50.07 | JustinP | we've been busy trying to stabilize the OS mostly |
| 05:50.09 | JohnReimer | good to know |
| 05:50.14 | JustinP | 2.6 kernels, etc |
| 05:50.19 | JohnReimer | you guys have done an excellent job.... |
| 05:50.21 | JustinP | udev |
| 05:50.29 | JohnReimer | I've only crashed the system a few times so far ;) |
| 05:51.53 | JustinP | ack |
| 05:51.58 | JustinP | darn kernel module.... |
| 05:52.33 | JustinP | I really *really* want the CE-RH2 to be supported in the 2.6 kernel....but all I have so far os one key event |
| 05:53.36 | obscurite | CE-RH2? |
| 05:53.40 | JohnReimer | How does one develope SDL apps on the OZ? DO you still need the Opie or QTE SDK? |
| 05:54.17 | JohnReimer | It would be nice if you could go pure SDL and not have to worry about the GUI stuff |
| 05:54.20 | obscurite | ahh, the remote? |
| 05:55.05 | JustinP | obscurite: yeah....at least I now have it sending one event, but the underlying code gives value sin the same range for all of the keys... |
| 05:55.12 | JustinP | JohnReimer: should be just SDL |
| 05:55.45 | JustinP | JohnReimer: and I believe there are both Opie and X SDL libs in OE |
| 05:57.37 | JohnReimer | yes... I believe you are correct... I've run across both |
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| 06:40.41 | JohnReimer | Is it possible to run X and Opie on OZ (not at the same time) |
| 06:42.56 | pgas | http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/howto/opie-gpe-at-the-same-time/ |
| 06:43.58 | johnX | I wonder why he left right after asking... |
| 06:45.39 | JustinP | hehe |
| 06:45.48 | JustinP | I wrote that page |
| 06:46.03 | JustinP | long time ago |
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| 08:04.38 | XorA | morning |
| 08:06.24 | TheMasterMind1 | morning |
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| 08:19.02 | obscurite | morning |
| 08:23.03 | b_52CEntos | obscurite, hi |
| 08:23.07 | b_52CEntos | nice nick name :) |
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| 08:52.07 | obscurite | thanks |
| 08:57.39 | alan|home | morning all |
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| 09:00.43 | JakeM3tz | whats up guys |
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| 10:08.13 | rm_you | who actually nicknamed all the zaurii? was it sharp or OZ or what? :P |
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| 10:18.34 | pgas | sharp |
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| 11:24.50 | CoreDump|home | morning |
| 11:32.02 | pgas | hi CoreDump|home |
| 11:32.35 | rm_you | morning coredump :P |
| 11:33.08 | rm_you | CoreDump|home: did you check and see why snes9x isnt in the feed? :P cause I'm sad not being able to play Chrono |
| 11:33.21 | CoreDump|home | no not yet |
| 11:33.31 | rm_you | I guess it's more of a question for the OZ guys |
| 11:33.43 | rm_you | cause it's THEIR feed :P i wonder if i can just pull it from the other feed... |
| 11:33.52 | rm_you | wait a minute... durrr.... i have bitbake set up :P |
| 11:35.33 | rm_you | erm... is there a guide somewhere about setting up a custom feed? :P |
| 11:36.04 | rm_you | cause my college gives me mucho bandwidth :P |
| 11:36.25 | rm_you | actually... I should convince them to mirror the OZ feed :P |
| 11:36.40 | rm_you | OMG I use ":P" too much. <slaps himself> |
| 11:37.43 | CoreDump|home | OE can create a feed for you. It is in tmp/deploy/ipk |
| 11:37.53 | CoreDump|home | bitbake package-index creates "Packages" |
| 11:38.19 | rm_you | hrm.... k... is there a guide? :P first time using bitbake to actually make a package... lol |
| 11:39.59 | CoreDump|home | ~gettingstarted |
| 11:40.01 | ibot | gettingstarted is, like, http://oe.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/GettingStarted |
| 11:40.29 | rm_you | well, I meant a guide to setting up a feed... but i'll look around the wiki some more |
| 11:41.52 | pgas | setting up a feed is just having ipks with a Packages file |
| 11:42.02 | XorA | rm_you: put .ipk files in a directory and run ipkg-make-index |
| 11:42.04 | rm_you | really? |
| 11:42.11 | rm_you | ok |
| 11:42.41 | XorA | if you run OE, then you tmp/deploy/ipk is already a feed |
| 11:42.56 | rm_you | ok sweet... I get it now :P |
| 11:43.10 | XorA | just run bitbake package-index to update the Packages file |
| 11:44.12 | rm_you | excellent... having a feed for my own stuff will be way easier than having to copy over ipkgs manually |
| 11:46.58 | CoreDump|home | is there a trick to read the version from a zImage.bin? |
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| 11:52.46 | rm_you | CoreDump|home: also, is it normal for a bunch of gpe packages to be included in the feeds for your collie opie rom? |
| 11:53.24 | rm_you | CoreDump|home: I just dont remember it listing anything gpe before... stuff like gimp is showing up :/ |
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| 11:53.37 | CoreDump|home | http://oz.hentges.net/hentges-feeds/3.5.4.1/shared/ contains the complete feed of my buildroot, so yes that is indeed normal |
| 11:53.43 | rm_you | ah ok. |
| 11:53.58 | rm_you | was seperating that feed not feasible? |
| 11:57.54 | CoreDump|home | no, since it really doesn't matter for such a small feed |
| 11:58.35 | rm_you | I suppose, it's just confusing sometimes when I look at the list and go "hey, we have that? oh wait... damn, it's gpe, right..." |
| 11:58.45 | rm_you | not that important though I suppose |
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| 11:59.42 | rm_you | oops wrong button :P |
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| 12:06.48 | rm_you | ah that's prolly why snes9x isnt in the feed.... the build fails |
| 12:08.02 | rm_you | /home/zaurus/build/tmp/cross/lib/gcc/arm-linux/3.4.4/../../../../arm-linux/bin/ld: cannot find -lqte |
| 12:08.15 | rm_you | -lqte? should that be -lqte2? |
| 12:09.30 | rm_you | whatever, it's over my head methinks, which is sad considering that looks like a really simple error as far as errors go :/ I need to get more familiar with the OE libraries |
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| 12:14.37 | rm_you | where does ${STAGING_LIBDIR} come from? |
| 12:14.48 | rm_you | what sets that variable |
| 12:16.34 | rm_you | ah found it |
| 12:20.01 | rm_you | hrm... still not even sure where the -lqte is coming from :/ |
| 12:21.57 | rm_you | ah ok found it... now I just need to find out why -lqte isnt being found, and if it isn't supposed to be -lqte, what IS it supposed to be? :/ |
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| 12:30.25 | Ecco | hello ! |
| 12:30.30 | rm_you | hey Ecco :P |
| 12:30.38 | Ecco | How are you doing rm_you ? |
| 12:31.28 | rm_you | meh. trying to figure out why snes9x-sdl-qpe won't build instead of writing a paper that was supposedly due last thursday... could be better. you? |
| 12:33.18 | Ecco | Well... I'm staying at home while I should be interning at Apple Computer... waiting for a **$!! visa... |
| 12:33.24 | Ecco | could be better as well :D |
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| 12:33.34 | rm_you | heh.... working for Apple? :P |
| 12:33.37 | Ecco | yep :-) |
| 12:33.54 | rm_you | nice... what do you do there as an intern? |
| 12:34.01 | Ecco | Cannot tell much about that |
| 12:34.09 | rm_you | NDA? |
| 12:34.11 | Ecco | I'm going to work in the CoreServices team |
| 12:34.25 | Ecco | Cannot tell more about that, sorry :-) |
| 12:34.30 | rm_you | lol |
| 12:34.39 | Ecco | (Yet with Google you can get an idea about what I'm going to work on :-)) |
| 12:35.10 | rm_you | lol @ google knowing everything |
| 12:35.23 | Ecco | :-D |
| 12:36.12 | Ecco | rm_you, have you ever played with QoS ? |
| 12:36.21 | rm_you | not at all. |
| 12:36.54 | rm_you | all I know about QoS is that when I ran windows it was attached to all my networking devices.... something about packet priority handling? |
| 12:38.57 | Ecco | Yeah |
| 12:39.33 | Ecco | In fact QoS reorganizes outgoing TCP/UDP packets |
| 12:40.23 | Ecco | indeed it's only really usefull on a router |
| 12:41.32 | rm_you | :/ |
| 12:41.54 | rm_you | yeah I think I saw something like that in my router config |
| 12:42.37 | Ecco | :-) |
| 12:42.44 | dj_segfault | rm_you: I have a WRT54G. Nobody's been able to tell me what OpenWRT |
| 12:42.53 | rm_you | ? |
| 12:42.55 | Ecco | If you're much into downloading/P2P and you happen to play and to have VoIP |
| 12:42.57 | dj_segfault | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:43.00 | Ecco | then QoS will rock |
| 12:43.17 | dj_segfault | (sorry, hit the enter key by accident) |
| 12:43.21 | rm_you | dj_segfault: well, none of the linksys firmware handles upnp right |
| 12:43.43 | Ecco | upnp is such a joke |
| 12:43.47 | rm_you | dj_segfault: also, wireless entirely broke in all versions of the linksys firmware recently (on my router, no idea why) |
| 12:43.59 | rm_you | Ecco: meh, azureus stopped complaining :P |
| 12:44.22 | rm_you | dj_segfault: so i went ahead and installed OpenWRT so I could actually get an IP with my zaurus :P |
| 12:44.23 | Ecco | I mean UPNP _looks_ good |
| 12:44.31 | Ecco | but it's so terrible security-wise |
| 12:44.40 | dj_segfault | hey! I had problems with Azureus, too. that's the only time my linksys locked up. OpenWRT fixes that? |
| 12:44.56 | Ecco | Sounds like you guys are using bittorent |
| 12:44.59 | rm_you | Yeah... the linksys firmware is horrible for torrenting |
| 12:45.04 | Ecco | if you're also playing/phoning through the internet |
| 12:45.10 | Ecco | you really should setup QoS |
| 12:45.13 | Ecco | it's SOOO great |
| 12:45.15 | dj_segfault | I had no problem getting an IP address on my zaurus now. |
| 12:45.16 | rm_you | prolly |
| 12:45.22 | Ecco | Basically what it does is rather "stupid" |
| 12:45.25 | rm_you | I game + torrent + browse... |
| 12:45.34 | Ecco | it simply prioritize game > browsing > torrent |
| 12:45.43 | Ecco | yet that involves some pretty complex algorithm |
| 12:45.49 | Ecco | for example right now I'm playing ArmyOps |
| 12:45.55 | Ecco | with a _really_ good ping |
| 12:45.58 | Ecco | I'm also torrenting |
| 12:46.05 | Ecco | and uploading some stuff with SCP |
| 12:46.13 | Ecco | without QoS ArmyOps wouldn't be playable |
| 12:46.14 | rm_you | dj_segfault: yeah, for some reason MY router just REFUSED to dhcp on the wireless interface :/ it was retarded. just started like a month ago. I tried like four different linksys firmwares, none of them helped |
| 12:46.18 | Ecco | I'd get something like 1000ms ping |
| 12:46.29 | rm_you | Ecco: yeah, I get it, I get it :P |
| 12:46.32 | Ecco | :-D |
| 12:46.36 | dj_segfault | Any downsides to OpenWRT, or known bugs? |
| 12:46.42 | rm_you | Ecco: I'll look into doing it with OpenWRT |
| 12:46.47 | Ecco | ;) |
| 12:47.00 | rm_you | dj_segfault: not that i've found, really. It's damn stable. What revision is your router? |
| 12:47.06 | dj_segfault | 3.0 |
| 12:47.08 | Ecco | I used to shut down bittorent before playing |
| 12:47.11 | Ecco | now it's useless |
| 12:47.12 | Ecco | :-) |
| 12:47.16 | rm_you | nice... theres some extra stuff for 3.0 i think... |
| 12:47.32 | dj_segfault | Maybe that's why my Z works. |
| 12:47.57 | rm_you | nah, that problem was just MY router being retarded... I dont know anyone else who's had the same problem |
| 12:48.32 | dj_segfault | Cool. I'll check it out. Thanks. |
| 12:50.21 | dj_segfault | I just spent about 6 hours last night redoing my network because I forgot that the internal and external ports on my Linksys had to be on different /24 subnets. DOH! |
| 12:50.52 | dj_segfault | Thankfully I posted just the right info to a Linux list I'm on and someone was able to clue-by-four me. |
| 12:51.12 | rm_you | dj_segfault: v3.0 or v3.1? |
| 12:51.18 | dj_segfault | v3.0 |
| 12:52.13 | dj_segfault | I'm going to look into OpenWRT now, though. I thought it was just me with the torrent problem. |
| 12:52.36 | dj_segfault | rm_you: What version are you running? |
| 12:52.54 | rm_you | dj_segfault: of OpenWRT? white russian rc5.... on a wrt54g v4 |
| 12:54.23 | rm_you | dj_segfault: http://downloads.openwrt.org/whiterussian/rc5/bin/openwrt-wrt54g-squashfs.bin is the file I used |
| 12:55.10 | rm_you | dj_segfault: had to downflash to the .6 version of whatever firmware linksys has before i could haxx the bootwait thing... .7 wasnt working |
| 12:59.19 | rm_you | http://pastebin.com/664869 put into a .html file worked wonders :P |
| 13:00.04 | rm_you | dj_segfault: you can click download on that and save it as bootwait.html or something, thhen just view it with a browser |
| 13:02.21 | dj_segfault | I'll have to try it at home. The previously mentioned network restructuring was DSL ---> server ---> WRT54G, so I can't get to the Linksys directly from work. |
| 13:02.44 | rm_you | ah. |
| 13:02.46 | dj_segfault | I don't know Javascript. What does that page do? |
| 13:03.21 | rm_you | exploits a bug in the ping.asp file in the linksys firmware and sets a variable called "boot_wait" to be true |
| 13:03.37 | dj_segfault | I did that to increase performance, and so I can set up a filtering proxy for my kid's computer. |
| 13:04.06 | rm_you | ah. |
| 13:06.12 | rm_you | I hope you didn't make it too restrictive :P I remember only a few years ago, going to a friends and having to haxx around way too much proxy/filtering just to download an exe patch for a game :P |
| 13:11.28 | dj_segfault | I didn't do it yet, as I just got the network fixed around 11:00 last night, just in time for Robot Chicken. The proxy is to filter out stuff that might come to the computer unintentionally, not to prevent my kid from doing anything (banner ads, bad websites, typo domain names, etc) |
| 13:13.11 | dj_segfault | My kid is still at neopets age. |
| 13:13.50 | dj_segfault | But every now and then my kid will google and end up in dark territory by accident. |
| 13:15.11 | rm_you | lol... or not-lol, but lol... |
| 13:26.00 | rm_you | hrm |
| 13:26.11 | rm_you | zaurus wacked out again |
| 13:27.16 | dj_segfault | How so? |
| 13:28.06 | rm_you | well, it used to do this every now and then a while back, havent had it do this for a while tho... |
| 13:28.18 | rm_you | erm... "this" is.... I guess, having the keyboard go crazy |
| 13:28.28 | rm_you | or maybe just the arrow keys + enter button |
| 13:28.29 | rm_you | or something |
| 13:28.42 | rm_you | cause it flips around between tabs and apps, and runs a shitload of stuff |
| 13:28.53 | rm_you | seemingly randomly... and REALLY fast |
| 13:29.06 | rm_you | and everything basically crashes cause of the crazyness |
| 13:31.03 | rm_you | CoreDump|home: you still on? |
| 13:31.22 | CoreDump|home | yeah, but busy right now |
| 13:32.17 | rm_you | CoreDump|home: ok... was just curious how much bandwidth running an OZ mirror costs you a month, average... |
| 13:32.45 | CoreDump|home | nothing, I never go above my traffic cap |
| 13:33.01 | rm_you | ok, i didnt mean money... I meant, like.... GB/month |
| 13:33.03 | rm_you | or something |
| 13:33.13 | rm_you | do you have statistics on that? |
| 13:33.24 | CoreDump|home | the server costs about 25?/month |
| 13:33.29 | rm_you | ... not money :P |
| 13:33.35 | CoreDump|home | ah |
| 13:33.44 | rm_you | the actual bandwidth consumed |
| 13:34.04 | rm_you | I want to convince my college's CS department to run a mirror :P |
| 13:34.25 | Ecco | :) |
| 13:34.36 | rm_you | I kinda need to know things like.... the expected bandwidth consumption, before I can propose that :P |
| 13:34.47 | rm_you | It would be nice having a mirror with like 10 ping :) |
| 13:34.56 | CoreDump|home | rm_you: http://openembedded.pastebin.com/664939 |
| 13:35.17 | rm_you | woah, openembedded.pastebin?!?! |
| 13:35.57 | CoreDump|home | http://rm_you.pastebin.com/664940 |
| 13:36.00 | CoreDump|home | ;) |
| 13:36.09 | rm_you | oh, fine... lol |
| 13:37.52 | rm_you | wait... that's a lot :P |
| 13:41.48 | polyonymous | CoreDump|home, Isn't underscore in dns against RFC? :) |
| 13:42.13 | CoreDump|home | dunno =) |
| 13:42.23 | CoreDump|home | that would be pastebins problem heh |
| 13:42.26 | polyonymous | I think it is ;-) |
| 13:42.34 | polyonymous | That would be rm_his problem :) |
| 13:42.41 | rm_you | lol |
| 13:43.12 | polyonymous | anyway, my opie-pmcia applet isn't responding. |
| 13:43.47 | rm_you | polyonymous: zaurus + incinerator == problem solved :) or not. |
| 13:44.22 | polyonymous | Would it respond then? |
| 13:44.52 | rm_you | no, but it not responding wouldn't bother you quite so much anymore... you'd be a little more focused on "OH MY GOD! MY ZAURUS! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!" |
| 13:45.23 | polyonymous | Anyway, I don't like that it doesn't respond. I don't want to go to console to eject CF card |
| 13:49.31 | dj_segfault | Then your Z would have a firewire port. |
| 13:50.15 | polyonymous | if there will be any wires left. |
| 13:55.35 | dj_segfault | rm_you: That Linksys exploit you pastebinned that "exploits a bug in the ping.asp file in the linksys firmware and sets a variable called "boot_wait" to be true" What is the effect of that? What will it do? |
| 13:57.08 | rm_you | dj_segfault: it makes the router wait for a brief period (couple seconds or so) when booting up and check to see if there's an incoming flash image (which you'll need to tftp to it) |
| 13:57.21 | dj_segfault | Ah. |
| 13:58.09 | rm_you | OR, alternatively, you can try just going into the linksys firmware, find the firmware upgrade page, and try using that and just selecting the openwrt bin file.... that's supposed to work :/ it didnt on mine tho |
| 13:58.18 | rm_you | so I had to do it the old fashioned way :P |
| 14:01.29 | polyonymous | oops... my pccardctl segfaults like crazy |
| 14:36.43 | polyonymous | could it be that opie-pcmcia-applet doesn't work well with pcmciautils (as opposed to pcmcia-cs) ? |
| 14:56.50 | polyonymous | hell, yes, it looks for /var/rrun/stab which is provided by cardmgr |
| 14:57.16 | polyonymous | heh //TODO: Revise for pcmciautils |
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| 15:26.04 | Axioplase | Hi ! |
| 15:26.52 | Axioplase | I'm using mplayer and mp3blaster on a collie. The former jsut freezes the box, and the latter fails to run because of $TERM... What can I do to play audio files and watch videos ? |
| 15:27.37 | Axioplase | I tried opie-mediaplayer2, but it said it didn't know how to play the files... |
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| 15:57.53 | Axioplase | Hum.. If i install an OPIE package on SD, how can I make opie aware that it is installed ? (cause it doesn't appear in the Application tab) |
| 15:58.35 | CoreDump|home | ipkg-link /media/card/packages |
| 15:58.44 | CoreDump|home | then restart opie |
| 15:59.07 | Axioplase | the "mount" is useless ? (ipkg-link mount /media/card/packages) ? |
| 15:59.31 | Axioplase | And...and How to start opie manually from console ? didn't get it yet... |
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| 16:07.05 | CoreDump|home | /etc/init.d/opie start |
| 16:07.28 | CoreDump|home | and yes, it should have been ipkg-link mount |
| 16:08.25 | Axioplase | Ok... cause when I did this, it started well, but eventually made my collie unusable, missing libc.so.6 or something like that... |
| 16:10.15 | rm_you|tablet | mmmm.... macro-economics.... /sleep |
| 16:30.23 | Axioplase | btw, the ssj package has a little bug... it doesn't create /etc/init.d/sshd and complains about it... |
| 16:30.32 | Axioplase | s/ssj/ssh |
| 16:32.54 | Axioplase | definitely... /bin/sh: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory |
| 16:33.15 | Axioplase | it quite didn't like the ipkg-link... |
| 16:33.54 | Axioplase | fails on adding libc6... |
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| 22:24.27 | JohnReimer | OZ 3.5.4.1 Alpha 2 on C700 won't detect USB link to computer on plug in |
| 22:24.54 | JohnReimer | apparently the 2.6 kernel is not compiled with g_ether module inside anymore? |
| 22:25.21 | JohnReimer | I have to do a modprobe g_ether in the OZ console and then everything works |
| 22:27.23 | JohnReimer | I had to dig through old bugs (like +10 months old) to discover this |
| 22:27.39 | JohnReimer | apparently no changes have been added to the recent Alphas to include g_ether? |
| 23:27.53 | Ecco | JohnReimer, on the C1000 its even worse |
| 23:28.08 | Ecco | because the whole usb_gadget stack sometimes doesn't work for not appearant reason |
| 23:31.56 | JohnReimer | ouch |
| 23:32.13 | Ecco | yeah |
| 23:32.20 | Ecco | it's painful |
| 23:32.49 | Ecco | looks like it might be related to usbcore being hardcoded in the kernel |
| 23:33.32 | JohnReimer | really? Why would that do it? |
| 23:33.42 | Ecco | I dont know |
| 23:33.47 | Ecco | but from what I tried it looks like it might |
| 23:33.58 | JohnReimer | is there a bug report on that? |
| 23:34.35 | Ecco | yeah, number 841 IIRC |
| 23:34.53 | Ecco | lemme know if you can find it |
| 23:36.39 | JohnReimer | ok |
| 23:44.16 | JustinP | so far g_ether has worked well on my spitz |
| 23:44.26 | JustinP | I've only used it one day, though ;-) |
| 23:45.10 | Ecco | Well, it works good on the C1000 |
| 23:45.18 | Ecco | as long as the USB gadget stack is ok |
| 23:47.59 | JohnReimer | yep 841 shows up as the bug you described |
| 23:48.09 | Ecco | great :-) |
| 23:48.30 | Ecco | I don't know if there's a "stack" for gadget USB properly speaking |
| 23:48.36 | Ecco | but the idea was there :-) |
| 23:49.06 | JohnReimer | I don't much at all about the USB features |
| 23:49.33 | JohnReimer | I just know when it works and when it doesn't :) |
| 23:50.31 | JohnReimer | the C700 problem doesn't seem that severe |
| 23:51.22 | JohnReimer | it just won't recognice the usb ports unless I mangually do the modprobe g_ether |
| 23:51.52 | JohnReimer | and there doesn't seem to be any GUI settings that allow you to control whether to use the USB as a network or seriel |
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| 23:52.07 | JohnReimer | like in the sharp rom... where you made the choice in a drop list |
| 23:52.30 | JohnReimer | under PC Link |
