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04:07.43TCMAN-dmghey
04:08.17TCMAN-dmghow can I get and recompile latest 3.5.4.1-alpha2 kernel?
04:27.46NecronomTCMAN-dmg; use oe.
04:27.53Necronom(openembedded.org)
04:29.16TCMAN-dmgyeah, i have build system installed
04:29.24TCMAN-dmgbut i think it is little outdated
04:29.37TCMAN-dmgi think it has 2.6.14 kernel only
04:30.06NecronomIf you do a pull of org.openembedded.dev, and update to it, the default target is 2.6.16 for virtual/kernel.
04:30.17TCMAN-dmgok, great
04:30.33TCMAN-dmgi think i know why oz 3.5.4.1 doesnt boot on my c3100
04:31.08TCMAN-dmgi have upgraded internal microdrive to 8gb seagate st1 and it is probably not in the device list in ide_cs.c
04:31.12NA|GoneTCMAN-dmg: If you want a .dev build for a c3100, jump on my site.. http://i3.tucuxi.org/ - should be linked down the bottom
04:31.29NA|Goneahhh.. that might do it.
04:32.56NecronomI'm pretty happy with 3.5.4.1-alpha2 on my 3100..
04:33.07TCMAN-dmgi see in this patch http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/linux-2.6.15-oe/patches/pcmcia_dev_ids-r3.patch
04:33.22TCMAN-dmg+PCMCIA_DEVICE_PROD_ID12("HITACHI", "FLASH", 0xf4f43949, 0x9eb86aae),
04:33.22TCMAN-dmg+PCMCIA_DEVICE_PROD_ID12("HITACHI", "microdrive", 0xf4f43949, 0xa6d76178),
04:33.40TCMAN-dmgi probably need to add "SEAGATE" "ST1"
04:33.53TCMAN-dmgbut how to calculate the hash?
04:34.13NecronomTCMAN-dmg; it probably comes from the ident.
04:34.59TCMAN-dmgnope, ident does not display the hash, only "SEAGATE" "ST1" 0x0111, 0x0000
04:36.40TCMAN-dmg0x0111, 0x0000 is manufacturer, device id
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04:39.38TCMAN-dmghmm it seems that hashes may be optional and if they dont match the kernel will complain but it will work
04:40.13TCMAN-dmg+If the hash is incorrect, the kernel will inform you about this in "dmesg"
04:40.14TCMAN-dmg+upon module initialization, and tell you of the correct hash.
04:44.07TCMAN-dmgand i found the way to generate the hash, yay!
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05:09.29NecronomHa.
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06:39.25TCMAN-dmgshould i use .dev or .oz345x branch?
06:53.29NA|GoneTCMAN-dmg: Depends if you want bleeding edge, or stable enough
06:53.49NA|Gone.dev has plenty of breakage when trying to do a daily pull/build.
06:54.59TCMAN-dmgoh ok
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09:04.14hrw|workmorning
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12:43.18ahbhello
12:43.18ahbnew to openzaurus, thus very dumb question, but google didn't have the answer:
12:43.18ahbhow to get back to opie from tty1 ?
12:45.34hrw|workchvt 1
12:45.37hrw|workchvt 2
12:46.10ahbthank you :)
12:46.54hrw|workwhich device btw?
12:47.11webminddoes anyone know if there is an imapd for oz ?
12:47.13ahbsl-5500G
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12:49.14hrw|workwebmind: cyrus-imapd iirc
12:49.31webmindhmm
12:49.32hrw|workahb: datebook + Left/Right
12:49.36webmindany idea if its any good ?
12:50.34AlexTeI'm having lots of IO error on SD card since I upgraded to alpha2. I cannot even boot an image with altboot. Could it be some problems with 2.6.16 ? or altboot ?
12:50.38ahbthanks again that is much more comfortable ;)
12:52.28hrw|workAlexTe: 2.6 problems
12:52.55hrw|workAlexTe: try 'md5sum /dev/mmcblk0' few times - if you get misc results then you have such bad luck as I have
12:56.07AlexTeOk that will probably take some time (1GB sd)
12:56.56hrw|workyep
12:57.26AlexTeI think it worked with 2.6.15 (from alpha1). At least I was able to install and boot a couple of images
12:57.46AlexTeI'm using akita btw
13:01.18hrw|workproblem can be on any Z with 2.6 kernel
13:03.05AlexTeare there some sd cards known to be working ok ?
13:17.07AlexTehmm I have 2 identical md5sums. Maybe the problem only occurs when writing ?
13:17.39hrw|workdo 4-6 tests..
13:17.50NA|ZzzAlexTe: Might it be cached?
13:19.45AlexTeI dont think it could cache 1gb of data, and it takes 10 min to run the md5sum
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13:22.48darmouhi all
13:23.03lardman|workhey darmou
13:23.08darmouDoes anyone know if there is an xmame port for gpe?
13:24.28darmouI've also heard that gpe comes with opensync, will that sync to mac's isync? and if not what does opensync sync to some kind of linux program?
13:25.11lardman|workI don;t know on either account I'm afraid
13:25.26darmouok thanks anyway lardman
13:26.13darmoui'll really have to get my openembedded system fixed hrw is a bit slow adding upgrade requests:)
13:26.56lardman|workDon't let him hear you say that! ;)
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13:30.39darmouI'ts ok he's been getting a lot of requests lately so it's no wonder that it will take some time.  I think it would be good if a few people could start migrating openebedded packages to openzaurus that's all.
13:31.24lardman|workwhat do you mean?
13:31.35lardman|workopenzaurus is a distro, openembedded is a build system
13:32.08darmouExactly that, that there are some packages that can be built in openembedded that are not included in the binary feeds
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13:32.31darmouAnd it would be good to have more people that can build and add requested packages.
13:32.37lardman|workWhich is simply that they were not included in whatever kind of build was used to make the feeds
13:32.42lardman|workAh, I see
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13:34.36darmouok xmame is in openembedded cool
13:36.00hrw|workxmame is in feed iirc
13:36.22hrw|worknope..
13:38.45lardman|workI see fbreader is being ported to GPE
13:39.02hrw|workfbreader is in upgrades
13:39.11lardman|workfor GPE?
13:39.14darmouyes
13:39.17darmoufor GPE
13:39.28lardman|workI must be reading an old blog then :D
13:39.41darmouit was in the oe forums
13:39.50darmouwell info about it
13:40.23darmouI was just saying hrw|work that you have been getting a lot of requests latly for upgrades
13:41.28hrw|workdarmou: Easter was recently
13:41.46darmou:)
13:42.35hrw|workI will release 3.5.4.1 for clamshells (april/may) + 3.5.4.2 (others) (may) and then will work on something OE related which will give me cash
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13:44.52darmouCool, as a new Borzoi owner looking forward to the new release
13:47.38darmouSry what is the iirc feed I could not find it from http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/mirror/www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.4/feed/
13:49.08hrw|work?
13:49.31darmousorry just trying to work out what you meant about xmame
13:49.45lardman|work:D
13:49.45hrw|workxmame is not in feed
13:49.54lardman|workiirc = if I remember correctly
13:50.31lardman|workConfusing these acronyms
13:51.07darmouaah ok thanks
13:53.03hrw|work~lart xmame
13:53.39AlexTehrw|work I now have 5 identical md5sums
13:53.55hrw|workAlexTe: good - that means that card should work ok
13:54.17hrw|workAlexTe: or get it out, insert and then check - if first one differ from others then its fsck
13:54.43hrw|work| src/cpu/alph8201/alph8201.c:994: error: `ALPHA8201_execute' undeclared (first use in this function)
13:54.48hrw|work~fsck xmame
13:54.49ibote2fsck /dev/xmame : warning! filesystem contains idiots!
13:56.11AlexTehrw|work well it works fine if I boot OZ from nand, but I'm unable to boot using altbool. Sometimes there are IO errors, sometimes it just freezes
13:57.10hrw|workso you have same situation like I have with 64 and 256M sd cards
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14:01.29AlexTenothing we can do about it ?
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14:01.40obergix[work]hi
14:01.51lardman|workAlexTe: best ask him again
14:02.13AlexTehrw|work: nothing we can do about it ?
14:03.16hrw|workAlexTe: nothing ;(
14:03.46AlexTewho's to blame here ? kernel people ? card manufacturers ?
14:04.02hrw|workcard
14:04.22lardman|workIs there a work-around?
14:04.57lardman|workThere must be a way to fix the problem - assuming these cards used to work
14:10.06XorAlinux kernel needs a WinCE mode, Ill bet WinCE just runs the card slowly
14:11.04hrw|workor someone who understand sd/mmc subsystem will look into 2.4.20/pdax-montavista sd/mmc subsystem
14:13.36lardman|workXorA: :D
14:13.52hrw|worksomeone here use opie and BT?
14:16.29hrw|work(Can't contact the database server: Can't connect to MySQL server on 'db.berlios.de' (146) (db.berlios.de))
14:16.32hrw|work:(
14:17.42lardman|workhrw|work: I saw that yesterday too, but it got better iirc
14:18.45AlexTehttp://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/mmc-problem/ <-- has this something to do with card problem ?
14:25.07hrw|worklooks like xmame 0.100 will get into oz
14:25.25hrw|workAlexTe: yep
14:25.39darmouhrw|work cool when?
14:25.51hrw|workdarmou: when it will get built
14:26.09hrw|workNOTE: package xmame-0.100-r0: task do_build: completed
14:26.33hrw|workdarmou: wanna test?
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14:30.18darmouI'd love to test it, sry my irc client crashed:(
14:30.18hrw|workdarmou: wanna test xmame?
14:30.28hrw|workdarmou: ipkg update;ipkg install xmame
14:38.40CoreDump|homehi
14:40.05darmouHi CoreDump|home
14:40.26darmouwow installing stuff sure takes a while
14:41.49hrw|workhi CoreDump|home
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14:45.03CoreDump|homedarmou: that would be ipkg's problem. It reads its packagelist on every action and is dog slow at it
14:45.37CoreDump|homeis oesf.org down ATM?
14:45.40hrw|workCoreDump|home: it read it only when it has to isntall stuff
14:45.41hrw|workdown
14:45.51CoreDump|homethanks
14:46.35darmouHmm it was down earlier too I wonder what's up?
14:47.18lardman|workThey're having server problems so I read
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14:54.56hrw|workopie-bluepin 1.2.1-r2 is in upgrades
14:54.56darmouhmm still configuring xmame I think my z is slightly borked
15:02.43hrw|workCoreDump|home: altboot 1.0.7-rc1 is ready for users?
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15:03.05CoreDump|homeuhh, no. To many changes in there, sorry
15:03.15hrw|workok will keep 1.0.6
15:03.41CoreDump|homegreat
15:08.14CoreDump|home~lart sf.net
15:08.51hrw|work~curse sf.net even
15:08.52ibotMay you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, sf.net even !
15:11.11darmoudoes anyone know how to use mpd the music daemon?
15:11.52hrw|workgrog is mpd expert
15:12.30darmouI would post to the forums but they are down *sigh*
15:12.59hrw|workup now
15:13.08darmoucool thanks
15:13.10CoreDump|homehrw|work: did you try the new softkey mappings on Opie yet? I moved them to F20 as you suggested
15:18.44tabutrondoes anyone know if (and how) I can set two repositories for the same feed in ipkg.conf? I entered two and only the first one is observed...
15:19.11CoreDump|homehuh?
15:19.35hrw|worktabutron: why repeating them?
15:19.45tabutronone local, one on the net
15:19.58hrw|workCoreDump|home: I mapped them to F20-F31 too - but lack of xev on device stopped me from looking more into it
15:20.06lardman|worktabutron: you can onlly have one as the last Packages(.gz) file to be downloaded will overwrite the contents of the first
15:20.07tabutronthe local one for installing packages without an internet connection
15:20.16CoreDump|homehrw|work: xev is in OE =)
15:20.57hrw|worko..
15:20.59lardman|worktabutron: In that case it might work, depending on how ipkg handles the feeds internally. You might also look at giving them different names
15:21.25hrw|workCoreDump|home: in that case I will add it into my Z soon
15:21.34tabutronyeah, different names might work.
15:22.02hrw|workbase-oz, base-local etc
15:24.46hrw|workcu
15:26.04CoreDump|homelater hrw|gone
15:55.14darmouspitz:/media/card/home/root/Documents/video> # xmame.SDL
15:55.14darmouerror: compiled byte ordering doesn't match machine byte ordering.
15:55.14darmoucompiled for MSB first, are you sure you chose the right cpu in makefile.unix
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15:56.41darmousry hrw asked me to test xmame, can't seem to get the binary to work.  I'll see if I can get it to compile with oe
15:56.54darmounight all
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17:11.47timlinuxhi
17:12.24timlinuxI want to install opie on my 5600 - how can I tell which zimage I need?
17:12.27timlinuxzImage.bin-pxa255   ?
17:12.30timlinuxor
17:12.34timlinuxzImage.bin-pxa250 ?
17:15.58timlinuxim trying to install from here: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/mirror/www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.4/images/poodle/
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19:04.43mimecarhi wapcaplet
19:04.47wapcaplethi mimecar
19:05.01wapcapletI'm having a problem with OZ 3.5.4
19:05.23mimecarwhat's the problem ?
19:05.45wapcapletw/ the Opie image, it gets stuck at the calibration screen
19:05.55wapcapletI touch all 5 points, but then it just loops :-)
19:06.13mimecaryou must touch inside the point
19:06.25mimecarif not, calibration will reset itself
19:06.36wapcapletI did
19:07.12mimecarafter flashing ?
19:07.13wapcapletat least, as close as I could... I tried being more precise, but got the same results
19:07.14wapcapletya
19:09.25wapcapletI'm using the 48-16 zimage, if that matters
19:11.04mimecarthat is not a problem cause
19:11.15mimecaris better use a 64-0 kernel
19:11.49wapcapletyeah, I'll try that next
19:12.18mimecaryou'll need a SD card
19:12.29wapcapletgotta put the root fs on there, eh?
19:12.44wapcapletI was hoping to avoid that, so I could use the SD for removable storage
19:12.45mimecaryes
19:12.54mimecarhave you collie ?
19:12.57wapcapletyes
19:13.05wapcaplet5500
19:13.42mimecaryou can use CF as removable storage
19:14.03wapcapletI know; but our new digital camera uses SD :-)
19:14.14wapcapletbut no biggie, it's not a high priority
19:14.21wapcapletI'll try 64/0
19:14.48mimecarxDDD
19:14.58mimecarcalibration is a curioius problem
19:15.01mimecarcurious
19:15.07mimecarI use gpe instead opie
19:15.25wapcapletone other user reported it on the comments page of the release announcement, but couldn't Google up anything else relevant
19:15.59wapcaplets/but/but I/
19:16.08wapcapletheh
19:16.25mimecarxDD
19:19.15wapcapletflashing now...
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19:24.40mimecaris a problem now ?
19:24.42mimecarhey darkschneider
19:25.14darkschneiderhello mimecar
19:27.48wapcaplethey, it worked! But I had to go through calibration 3 times.
19:28.30mimecarxDDD
19:28.33mimecarif works...
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19:31.32wapcapletcool. Thanks for the tip mimecar! I'm off to play outdoors...
19:32.31mimecarok
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19:43.02al_dohi all, installed Snes9x on my c3k (oz gpe 3.5.4-a2), but after loading any rom it ends up with a black screen...
19:43.07al_dois this normal?
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20:08.47cedrichi
20:09.19obergix[work]cedric: salut
20:10.03JustinPwrong channel...
20:10.31cedricif I installed some packages in "home", how do I make them available by the system?
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20:11.03JustinPipkg-link
20:15.28cedricJustinP: thx
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20:47.23mimecarre
20:54.20mimecarb_52Centos: where are you from ?
20:55.01b_52Centosmimecar,  morocco
20:55.22mimecarcountry ?
20:56.01b_52Centosmorocco is the country ; south of spain  and in the north of maurianus
20:56.16b_52Centosmauritanus
20:56.22mimecarok
20:56.45mimecarI don't know all the countries
20:56.53b_52Centosme either :)
20:59.05b_52Centosin fact our visa card are not avaible abroad that way i would like to buy and buy at the delivry ...
20:59.32pgasb_52Centos: even with paypal?
20:59.59pgasand most shops accept bank transfer also
21:02.59b_52Centospgas,  pay all too :) ; for bank transfer is possible but it's a headech  ; you must bring papers....  ; (in fact money can be transfered in morocco with out problem but to moe from morocco -> abroad it's another story :) ; you must be a person who is goin to travel/study.... )   pay at the delivery is the easy way
21:05.30pgashmm, even with France?
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21:05.49paxlwith OZ - 3.5.4 how do altboot works
21:10.39AlexTepaxl what do you want to know exactly ? just use the menu displayed at boot time
21:12.00b_52Centospgas,  france is abroad si yes :)  
21:14.14pgasb_52Centos: yeah but france and morocco relations are a bit special so..I thought maybe.....
21:16.33b_52Centospgas,  yeah ... :) ; government made that to control money movement ; so money must stay inside the country ; just for some special case (study/tourism/...)  ; in france there are some morrocan bank that have their branch there
21:17.07pgasdamn
21:17.48pgasI guess you can't even send money using a postal "mandat" (don't know the english name)
21:18.17b_52Centospgas,  no that is possble
21:18.28b_52Centospostal mandat is possible
21:18.39b_52Centosand easy to do
21:19.14pgashttp://www.directfromjapan.net is accepting mandat
21:20.04pgas(though I've seen mild report from them...everybody go their zaurus but sometime not as fast as expected)
21:20.14pgashe has used zaurus also
21:21.09b_52Centospgas,  thanks for the french link :)  ; the most import is to receive it ; if a delay is not a problem :)
21:21.39pgasnp
21:25.55pgasb_52Centos: you speak french?
21:26.09b_52Centospgas,  fluently
21:29.59pgasyou put thought of couscous in my mind....not so easy to find a good one here in greece
21:31.14b_52Centospgas,  :))  ; hope you will find a moroccan restaurant :)  ; are you from greece ?
21:31.30pgasI'm french but live in greece
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21:46.27redguycan anyone tell me which package I can get xinit from?
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21:51.47redguywait, that was a bad question. How do I make xfce start on openzaurus? The startxfce4 script won't work because there is no xinit
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22:09.16timlinuxhi. where can I get an original zaurus restore from opie back to stock zaurus
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22:16.13JustinPtimlinux: Sharp
22:16.23JustinPtimlinux: should be downloadable from their website
22:16.38JustinPtimlinux: you can also try the zaurususergroup website
22:19.01timlinuxJustinP: Hi been poking around myzaurus but cant seem to find it
22:24.56JustinPtimlinux: what model?
22:25.23timlinux5600
22:26.30JustinPtimlinux: I know that the 5500's is there....
22:26.42JustinPtimlinux: sorry, I don't go back to the sharp rom...
22:26.51JustinPtimlinux: you're looking for the OSPack
22:29.51timlinuxJustinP: there is one referenced at http://www.zaurususergroup.org/UpDownload+index-req-viewsdownload-sid-29.phtml   for Sharp 5600 ROM Ver 1.32  2004 but the link is broken :-(
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22:35.37EnceloAMDhi, can you please tell me the OZ package containing C std headers?
22:37.27EnceloAMDmmm, maybe is libc6-dev...
22:44.05kellyhhmm, is it possible to stop calander opening in GPE if I try to do ctrl-c on the osd keyboard?
22:44.26kellyhreally annoying not having the ctrl-(key) functions
22:46.46JustinPkellyh: ? why stop it from opening? and why not just press...Ctrl-C?
22:56.18EnceloAMDwhere is libpthread? :(
22:57.57EnceloAMDmmm, it's in place, it's a problem of symlinks fortunately...
22:59.05kellyhJustinP: cos ctrl-c is used to close some command line programs and to quit out of a action. having calander open instead is annoying
23:00.33EnceloAMD/usr/lib/gcc/arm-linux/3.4.4/../../../../arm-linux/bin/ld: cannot open linker script file /usr/bin/../../usr/lib/libpthread.so.0: Too many open files
23:00.35EnceloAMD????
23:01.00JustinPkellyh: oh that's what you mean. yeah, it probably shouldn't be opening the calendar
23:02.16*** join/#openzaurus TCMAN (n=dominik@65.205.209.10)
23:02.21TCMANhi
23:02.37kellyhJustinP: i can't find anywhere int he gpe conf programs to change the binding, and am not sure what file it'd be in
23:03.11kellyh(first time I've used GPE really tbh, usually use OPIE, but my wifi card won't work if I use the latest OPIE hentges image)
23:06.51TCMANhey, is there wpa_supplicant with hostap driver enabled?
23:07.20TCMANthe 0.4.8 in upgrades has hostap driver disabled and it doesnt work with 802.11x networks
23:08.57EnceloAMDwhere does quake want the pak files installed?
23:10.32TCMANquake will try .quake/id1 directory
23:10.57TCMANi always use my home directory
23:11.53EnceloAMDok, thanks
23:12.11EnceloAMDwhat about this:
23:12.18EnceloAMDencelo@collie:~$ gcc tree.c -o tree
23:12.19EnceloAMD/usr/lib/gcc/arm-linux/3.4.4/../../../../arm-linux/bin/ld: cannot find /lib/libc.so.6 inside /usr/bin/../../usr
23:12.19EnceloAMDcollect2: ld returned 1 exit status
23:12.36EnceloAMDI can not even compile a simple c program :(
23:14.16EnceloAMDquake says it cannot load gfx.wad
23:14.49TCMAN/usr/share/quake/id1 then
23:14.55EnceloAMDok
23:15.57EnceloAMDthe package should include that dirs then, to help the user localize the installation dir
23:16.33EnceloAMDnothing again
23:18.06TCMANhmm maybe try uppercase ID1?
23:18.49TCMANis there a script that starts quake
23:18.57TCMANsee what the -basedir option is
23:21.01EnceloAMDquake is just the executable, not a script
23:21.03EnceloAMDBTW
23:21.06EnceloAMDencelo@collie:~$ quake -basedir quake/
23:21.06EnceloAMDCvar_RegisterVariable: crosshair is a command
23:21.06EnceloAMDAdded packfile quake/id1/pak0.pak (339 files)
23:21.07EnceloAMDAdded packfile quake/id1/pak1.pak (85 files)
23:21.12EnceloAMDPackFile: quake/id1/pak1.pak : gfx/pop.lmp
23:21.14EnceloAMDPlaying registered version.
23:21.16EnceloAMDPackFile: quake/id1/pak0.pak : gfx.wad
23:21.21EnceloAMDConsole initialized.
23:21.23EnceloAMDSegmentation fault
23:21.35EnceloAMDahahah, I was trying to run it via a ssh console :D :D
23:22.31EnceloAMDit's just the same from the Zaurus :(
23:23.09TCMANdo you have machine name set up and added to /etc/hosts?
23:23.54EnceloAMDdon't think so... I will fix this
23:24.15EnceloAMDwhile fixing this, can you understand why the configure of a simple SDL program outputted this:
23:24.18EnceloAMDchecking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) works... no
23:24.18EnceloAMDconfigure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables.
23:24.18EnceloAMD?
23:25.04TCMANtry this ping `hostname`
23:25.36TCMANif it says lookup failure add it to /etc/hosts
23:25.47EnceloAMDahhhhhhhhhhhhh, quake!
23:25.53EnceloAMD(hostname added)
23:26.16EnceloAMDsegfaulted after a bit of demoing :)
23:27.00TCMANlol
23:28.29EnceloAMDhow can I run it at a certain resolution?
23:29.32TCMAN-width 320 -height 240
23:30.16TCMANand xrandr -s 0 or -s 1 for different resolutions
23:30.29TCMANxrandr is a program to switch resolutions
23:30.44EnceloAMDah, yes, the randr X11 extension
23:32.20EnceloAMDnow says error opening /tmpquake/id1/config.cfg :
23:33.19EnceloAMDok, trying to reboot
23:33.38EnceloAMDall the other times, after having installed plenty of packages, the Z refused to restart...
23:33.51EnceloAMDhoping this is not happening again
23:34.04EnceloAMDI have reinstalled OZ 3.5.4 some times now...
23:35.00EnceloAMDok, it survived :D
23:36.22EnceloAMDdoh, the same stupid tmpquake error
23:37.20EnceloAMDconfig.cfg deleted
23:37.35EnceloAMDahaha, I hear the sound of the quake demo, fantastic!
23:40.53TCMANhehe
23:41.00TCMANhear?
23:41.21EnceloAMDyes
23:41.49EnceloAMDthe only problem is that the game window is not centered
23:42.32TCMANcreate a script to run xrandr, run quake, and run xrandr back after it exits
23:42.38TCMANthis is how pdaxrom does it
23:43.20EnceloAMDI will try this
23:43.24TCMANwhy the hell my oz354x tree uses gcc 4 instead of gcc 3
23:44.06EnceloAMD:)
23:47.52EnceloAMDbtw, my screen resolution is 320x240 (with rotated screen) but the game is half out of the border
23:50.12TCMANtry -fullscreen on quake command line
23:50.49EnceloAMDit seems like it opens a 640x480 window, then scale the game down to the center
23:51.06EnceloAMDwhich is out of my screen :)
23:52.11EnceloAMDit now opens at fullscreen at 640x480
23:52.26EnceloAMDquake -basedir quake -width 320 -height 240 -fullscreen
23:52.36EnceloAMDit doesn't like the width and height parameters
23:52.38TCMANdid you use -fullscreen -width 320 -height 240 ?
23:52.41TCMANhmm
23:53.45TCMANdunno, download quake package from pdaxrom and steal their quake script
23:54.01JustinPwhich Z is  this?
23:54.11EnceloAMD5500
23:54.20JustinP5500 has a 320x200 screen, not 240
23:54.35EnceloAMDmaybe this is the problem
23:54.41EnceloAMDtrying again
23:54.49JustinPI had quake running on mine a long long time ago....
23:55.15TCMANall pda screens are qvga, 240x320
23:56.07EnceloAMDbtw, it opens the same at 640x480
23:56.57TCMANif this is 5500 how can it work at 640x480?
23:57.31TCMANcan anyone tell me why my oz345x oe env uses gcc 4.0.2 instead of 3.x?
23:57.31EnceloAMDit works :)
23:57.40JustinPTCMAN: it doesn't
23:57.48EnceloAMDit opens a bigger window, I can just see the top-left corner
23:58.00TCMANic
23:58.18JustinPTCMAN: the normal build env uses 3.x. If you're on an amd64 system, however, you need gcc4 to build.
23:58.43JustinPTCMAN: and angstrom also uses gcc4, but that's in dev, not oz354x
23:58.52TCMANi am on gentoo x86
23:59.27TCMANand it uses 4.0.2 cross compiler and of course my ipks come out requring libgcc 4.0.2 bummer

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