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| 00:09.10 | magnet | erm it seems that there is no ipkg for kernel source code |
| 00:09.34 | magnet | where can I get kernel source of current oz ? |
| 00:09.47 | kolla | openembedded |
| 00:10.18 | magnet | that what I was checking, there is no way to just get them on the zaurus ? |
| 00:10.26 | magnet | I want to compile some kernel module |
| 00:11.06 | kolla | not sure, it wasnt possible when I last tried :) |
| 00:11.27 | magnet | I could still install oe on the zaurus, but it don t sounds good :) |
| 00:12.26 | kolla | openzaurus is openembedded, but it's supposed to be compiled on a host PC :) |
| 00:13.09 | kolla | it's been a while since I last compiled a OZ image, I dont even know if the cross building enviroment still workd |
| 00:13.11 | kolla | works |
| 00:13.37 | magnet | umm |
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| 03:42.23 | grendal_prime | hey guys |
| 03:43.47 | grendal_prime | i got this strange problem with my opie console |
| 03:44.21 | grendal_prime | its like the size is all whacky |
| 03:45.53 | grendal_prime | it opens with the starting cursor position tabed inand when i type it double spaces everything |
| 03:47.15 | grendal_prime | anybody online? |
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| 03:49.47 | grendal_prime | radio check |
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| 06:25.22 | grendal_prime | hey i got this werid ass situation with opie console |
| 06:25.56 | grendal_prime | it opens up in ths strange ...sort of termina where everything is echoed ..tabs spaces and whatnot |
| 06:26.18 | grendal_prime | shit goes all over the place accept where i want it to |
| 06:28.52 | YoG | try changing the font |
| 06:35.46 | grendal_prime | to what..there is one font |
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| 06:40.08 | YoG | try changing the font size maybe? |
| 06:40.25 | YoG | btw, you can install fonts from the feed |
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| 06:56.48 | grendal_prime | ya but the done seem to become available...do i need to reboot the machine? |
| 06:57.21 | grendal_prime | can you look at yours and see what font its using. im wondering if i just accidently removed the fonts that it uses |
| 06:58.25 | YoG | just a sec... |
| 06:59.01 | YoG | you said opieconsole, right? |
| 06:59.11 | grendal_prime | ya |
| 07:00.24 | YoG | and you go to connnection->configure profile->default->edit->terminal ? |
| 07:00.36 | grendal_prime | ya |
| 07:01.10 | YoG | and you have one font installed? |
| 07:01.19 | grendal_prime | helvitica |
| 07:02.18 | YoG | well... I'm using "fixed - regular 14" |
| 07:02.38 | YoG | but, did you try to change the font size? |
| 07:02.55 | grendal_prime | well icouldnt but i did install one and now it seems to work fine |
| 07:03.33 | grendal_prime | thanks alot |
| 07:03.37 | grendal_prime | makes things alot easyer |
| 07:03.46 | YoG | I had a similar problem, that seemed to go a way once you defined the font, doesnt matter what font... |
| 07:03.49 | YoG | you welcome |
| 07:04.02 | grendal_prime | hey you ever heard of running a debian installation on an sl5500 |
| 07:04.03 | grendal_prime | ? |
| 07:04.58 | YoG | Not really, there are few threads about it I think, and theres also this XQt thingy... |
| 07:05.16 | grendal_prime | xQt? |
| 07:05.42 | YoG | lets you run X under opie |
| 07:05.59 | grendal_prime | i use debian for everything...its amazing distro..was just thiking how cool it would be to get a kde desktop on a debian install |
| 07:06.07 | grendal_prime | really |
| 07:06.18 | grendal_prime | well gpe is x anyway |
| 07:06.26 | grendal_prime | i mean..its about as x as you can get.. |
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| 07:06.44 | grendal_prime | when it boots you get the little x mouse cursor and everything |
| 07:07.00 | YoG | I think there are people running debian under XQt |
| 07:07.08 | YoG | lookit on the forms |
| 07:07.13 | grendal_prime | hmmm |
| 07:07.23 | grendal_prime | trying to get a jabber server running tonight |
| 07:07.39 | YoG | whats "jabber server" |
| 07:08.15 | grendal_prime | well its a xml based im server. you can install on a gateway and basically run your own im server for a company. |
| 07:08.25 | grendal_prime | we are going to use it in place of email. |
| 07:08.35 | grendal_prime | email is rediculas wast of time now days |
| 07:08.59 | grendal_prime | even with spam filtering our users are getting in excess of 50 spams a day |
| 07:09.23 | YoG | ah ok |
| 07:09.35 | YoG | good luck |
| 07:12.39 | grendal_prime | thanks again for the help with the console...makes remote work easyer |
| 07:12.57 | grendal_prime | i can check the machines at work from my hammock in the front yard again |
| 07:13.02 | grendal_prime | hehehe |
| 07:13.23 | YoG | have fun |
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| 08:18.11 | CoreDump|home | morning |
| 08:51.28 | prh_ | YEP |
| 08:51.33 | prh_ | oops |
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| 11:16.36 | hrw | http://openzaurus.berlios.de/ReleaseNotes/Oz3541 - someone added notes - nice. |
| 11:23.00 | CoreDump|home | I'm out of ideas now tho ;) |
| 11:25.57 | hrw | CoreDump|home: did you tried usb keyobard with akita? |
| 11:27.05 | CoreDump|home | nope, don't have one at home but could probably use one at work |
| 11:28.41 | CoreDump|home | damn this crap, wireless-tools is driving me nuts |
| 11:28.45 | hrw | why? |
| 11:29.17 | CoreDump|home | for some retarded reasons iwconfig isn't run hence no WEP key -> no net at certain times |
| 11:29.40 | hrw | ;( |
| 11:29.56 | hrw | I'm thinking about using wpa-supplicant for roaming |
| 11:30.00 | CoreDump|home | it works when using udev hotplugging but not on "ifup eth0" |
| 11:30.19 | hrw | you have non-prism card? |
| 11:30.32 | CoreDump|home | nope, prism |
| 11:30.47 | hrw | worked without problems with hostap? (as wlan0) |
| 11:30.59 | CoreDump|home | no, that problem is age old |
| 11:31.23 | CoreDump|home | as I said, udev hotplugging works perfectly, a manual ifup not always |
| 11:34.13 | hrw | cant help - at home I have open network |
| 11:34.18 | hrw | have to setup wpa one day |
| 11:41.49 | CoreDump|home | meh, the problem appears to be a misconfiguration in my /e/n/interfaces |
| 11:42.06 | CoreDump|home | but why the hell does it work when hotplugging *curse* |
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| 13:32.07 | Fuchur | Hello |
| 13:32.28 | _magnet | hi. |
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| 13:40.00 | Fuchur | I would like to install apps on my SL-5500G. But ipkg doesen't seem to work. There is a small note about this problem at openzaurus.berlios.de/Collie/Install. It seems that I have to move the root-filesystem to a SD-card. Is this the only possibility to get OpenZaurus to work on Collie? I don't want to use a SD-card for the essential apps, because then I can't change the card to exchange data on SD-cards from other people ... |
| 13:40.37 | Fuchur | ... or photos from my camera ... |
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| 17:22.05 | StarKruzr | Hi folks |
| 17:22.23 | StarKruzr | Can anyone tell me if there is support for SD wifi cards in OZ for the SL-C3x00? |
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| 20:48.48 | JustinP | StarKruzr: SDIO is a closed spec (as is SD) so linux can't support it (easily) unless they release the specs |
| 20:51.37 | StarKruzr | JustinP: You don't happen to know whether or not OZ supports syncing with Palm Desktop or some other software, do you? |
| 20:52.02 | JustinP | I know that people have synced both Opie and GPE PIM apps to something, yes |
| 20:52.08 | JustinP | I have never done it, though |
| 20:52.24 | JustinP | I haven't used my Z for PIM since I installed OZ, pretty much... |
| 20:52.32 | JustinP | well, I used kopi for a while (like that) |
| 20:52.32 | StarKruzr | ok. |
| 20:52.38 | StarKruzr | What's kopi? |
| 20:52.44 | JustinP | another PIM app |
| 20:52.52 | JustinP | a handheld version of korganizer |
| 20:53.01 | JustinP | it supports syncing via http, ftp, ssh, etc |
| 20:53.08 | StarKruzr | that sounds rather nice. |
| 20:53.15 | JustinP | anything you want, actually, as long as you know how to set up the commands |
| 20:53.35 | JustinP | the syncing, back when I was doing it, took a bit of work to set up |
| 20:53.40 | JustinP | as in writing the scp commands by hand |
| 20:53.49 | JustinP | but after that it worked very well, even between 3 machines |
| 20:54.17 | StarKruzr | Ideally I'd like to sync to Outlook. |
| 20:54.40 | StarKruzr | I seem to recall that being possible with the Sharp ROM at least. |
| 21:06.15 | JustinP | heh, yeah they had something for that. Doubt it works with OZ, though |
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| 21:19.34 | StarKruzr | If anyone knows anything about getting OZ's PIM apps to sync with Qtopia Desktop or, in fact, ANY software on a desktop, please let me know |
| 21:19.42 | StarKruzr | Because I don't know where to start. |
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| 21:28.57 | JustinP | StarKruzr: did you try Google? It's been discussed before |
| 21:33.02 | StarKruzr | JustinP: one of the things that is so frustrating about trying to use this project in any real capacity is the total scatteredness of the documentation |
| 21:33.52 | StarKruzr | for example, when he said "read the OZ mailinglist" I thought he was talking about the actual SF.net mailinglist |
| 21:34.00 | StarKruzr | apparently he meant the newsgroups |
| 21:34.18 | JustinP | no, there's an openzaurus-users mailing list |
| 21:34.24 | StarKruzr | but besides that, just the installation guide for Collie is actually in three pieces |
| 21:34.29 | JustinP | gmane is a service that puts them into a newsgroup like thing |
| 21:34.34 | StarKruzr | ok. |
| 21:34.34 | JustinP | which google then archives |
| 21:34.46 | JustinP | well, anyone can contribute |
| 21:35.06 | JustinP | unfortunately once people learn enough to make docs better they usually move on to other things, like making things build...:-| |
| 21:35.52 | StarKruzr | and making things build is great, but docs are just as important |
| 21:36.43 | StarKruzr | I can at least put together what I've learned about installing 3.5.4 on Collie and put it on the Wiki, but it hardly ends there |
| 21:38.52 | JustinP | well, please, by all means, document what you do and wiki-ize it |
| 21:39.08 | JustinP | and then maybe you can update the "official" docs |
| 21:39.24 | StarKruzr | supposedly the "official" docs are all being migrated to the wiki |
| 21:39.43 | StarKruzr | which I would show you if the site wasn't so slow :/ |
| 21:40.13 | StarKruzr | well, says it right on the Main Page of the wiki |
| 21:40.20 | StarKruzr | "canonical location" etc |
| 21:43.33 | StarKruzr | Do you run GPE, btw? |
| 22:39.05 | syn-- | hi using hentges cardfs-opie-collie-openzaurus_oz3.5.4.1-alpha3-opie1.2.1-T1-RC5.bin and gaim will not in settings have different protocols such as msn for adding accounts the drop down menu does nothing. any ideas |
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| 22:43.08 | syn- | damn wrong button |
| 22:43.09 | syn- | arugh |
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| 23:05.29 | StarKruzr | hey guys |
| 23:05.44 | StarKruzr | is there a backup battery on the SL-5500? |
| 23:06.04 | StarKruzr | oh |
| 23:06.08 | StarKruzr | syn I can fix that problem |
| 23:06.20 | StarKruzr | you have to install the plugins for GAIM for whichever protocols you want |
| 23:06.32 | StarKruzr | it's counterintuitive because they start with "lib" |
| 23:06.39 | StarKruzr | libgaim-aim or whatever |
| 23:08.01 | StarKruzr | lemme know if that fixes your issue |
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| 23:08.23 | StarKruzr | hey JiniDog |
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| 23:09.01 | JiniDog | hey |
| 23:09.08 | StarKruzr | do you happen to own a Collie? |
| 23:09.15 | JiniDog | no |
| 23:09.19 | StarKruzr | k |
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