| 00:39.30 | StarKruzr | mithro, I don't suppose you know how to change the backup battery in a SL-5500 |
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| 01:17.20 | syn- | StarKruzr thanks i will do now |
| 01:17.30 | syn- | StarKruzr I have a collie |
| 01:17.42 | syn- | but have never changed the backup battery |
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| 04:23.02 | MrJesse | Hi! I'm not sure whether my question is an opie question or an openzaurus question, so I'll ask in both: When opie exits unexpectedly, init does not restart it, even though the system is in runlevel 5. |
| 04:49.04 | StarKruzr | I don't know about runlevels, but as far as I know the system has *always* behaved that way. |
| 04:52.11 | JustinP | that's the way that linux works in general |
| 04:52.27 | JustinP | the init script for a particular program has to be set up to restart it |
| 04:56.50 | MrJesse | Well, normally if you install linux on your desktop and boot into runlevel 5, it automatically restarts xwindows if you kill it. |
| 04:58.25 | MrJesse | anyway, I made a bash script which checks to see if cpe is running, every 10 seconds. If it's not, it restarts it. The problem is that when cpe exits, whatever opie applications were running continue to run sucking all available CPU power, even after you reload opie. |
| 04:59.33 | MrJesse | I was also wondering about /media/ram -- if I have a 1G sd card as a permenmant part of my filesystem expanding root (via symlinks) and providing cache -- is there any reason I need to use half my memory on /media/ram? |
| 05:00.05 | MrJesse | opie seems to crash when I run out of system memory, especially if I don't have swap enabled :-) |
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| 05:11.08 | MrJesse | hi vastin |
| 05:12.10 | StarKruzr | MrJesse: that sounds pretty good to me, actually (the script). |
| 05:12.16 | StarKruzr | can I take a look at it? |
| 05:12.20 | StarKruzr | also, what is cpe? |
| 05:13.08 | StarKruzr | and what do you mean by "providing cache?" what platform are you running on? I run my collie with root on the sd card (also 1GB) and I didn't even know enabling swap was a good idea. |
| 05:13.26 | StarKruzr | I've also never run out of system memory. using the 64-0 configuration. |
| 05:14.29 | MrJesse | cpe is the actual program that runs the core of opie |
| 05:15.10 | MrJesse | you may take a look. lemme go get my colie |
| 05:15.34 | NAbyss | Isn't it qpe, not cpe? |
| 05:15.43 | MrJesse | cache is swap space. It uses a section of the sd card like virtual memory |
| 05:15.47 | MrJesse | yes! my mistake. qpe. |
| 05:15.49 | MrJesse | brb |
| 05:16.33 | MrJesse | back |
| 05:17.17 | MrJesse | swap memory never gets used until system memory is all used up -- but then instead of stuff crashing, the program that hasn't been used for the longest gets moved to the swapfile. |
| 05:17.37 | MrJesse | then when you go to use that old program, it takes a few seconds to come to life, since it was cached on the swap file. |
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| 05:19.47 | MrJesse | oh dcc doesn't work since I'm not registered |
| 05:19.55 | MrJesse | I will stick it on webserver |
| 05:21.38 | MrJesse | http://jesseg.nikola.com:8080/OZ/ |
| 05:22.11 | MrJesse | it's just a quick hack I did. it's first run from /etc/init.d/opie or whatever the opie startup script is |
| 05:25.05 | MrJesse | if you want to try and implement it I'll provide more exact instructions (pretty simple, really.) |
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| 05:26.12 | StarKruzr | cool. |
| 05:26.41 | StarKruzr | so, I'm curious. |
| 05:26.55 | StarKruzr | isn't using an sd card as a swap partition going to wear out the cells REALLY fast? |
| 05:27.16 | StarKruzr | it would be nice if the machine would warn you when it starts using swap so that you don't do it often |
| 05:27.23 | MrJesse | The fact that opie apps just sit there running at full CPU power when they lose communications with the qpe is probably a bug. |
| 05:28.10 | StarKruzr | I would tend to agree with you. |
| 05:28.10 | MrJesse | well, swap doesn't get used until your real memory is all full. And each time you load another app, causing that much data to be written to flash, that's a write.... |
| 05:28.22 | StarKruzr | yeah. |
| 05:28.30 | MrJesse | It'd be cool if the aps could reconnect to qpe when it was restarted :-) |
| 05:28.46 | StarKruzr | I guess you'd have to kill the apps with Console. |
| 05:28.54 | MrJesse | I've taken hundrends of pictures on my flash memory card. |
| 05:28.58 | StarKruzr | (Unless there is a graphical app-killer I'm not aware of) |
| 05:29.06 | MrJesse | I think there's a graphical utility... |
| 05:30.18 | StarKruzr | MrJesse: do you use KO/Pi at all? |
| 05:30.57 | MrJesse | If you click O (start) -> Applications -> System Info, and go to it's Process tab, you can see all running aps, and kill them at will. |
| 05:31.20 | MrJesse | I'm brand new to the OZ scene -- I don't know what you mean bt KO/Pi |
| 05:31.37 | MrJesse | but I've been playing with linux for years |
| 05:33.18 | MrJesse | What's KO/Pi ? |
| 05:33.37 | NAbyss | KO/Pi is a version of calendar that doesn't suck |
| 05:34.32 | MrJesse | Anyway, using SD card as swap would wear out the card eventually, but hopefully you're not always swapping stuff out because it's pretty slow. But I'd rather a little slowness when I hit memory limit, rather then crash the window manager. haha. |
| 05:34.35 | StarKruzr | NAbyss: the website says OM/Pi (the mail program) is part of Ko/Pi, but that appears to be a dirty lie. OM/Pi is also not in the feeds. Am I missing something? |
| 05:35.24 | MrJesse | By the way, there is an app you can install which shows a little bargraph of your memory usage on the taskbar. Unfortunately, it shows real+swap. |
| 05:35.58 | StarKruzr | opie-mem-applet or something. yeah, I've seen that. |
| 05:36.04 | MrJesse | StarKruzr I have what's called 'datebook' which runs when I push the calandar button... that's probably not KO/Pi |
| 05:36.14 | StarKruzr | Datebook comes with OZ. |
| 05:36.19 | NAbyss | StarKruzr: No idea.. IIRC, though, you need opie-kdepim-image instead of opie-image to get kopi |
| 05:36.42 | StarKruzr | It's a clone of the Sharp Datebook. |
| 05:36.55 | MrJesse | yeah, I thought datebook was cool. But I couldn't figure out how to make it alarm when an apointment was ripe |
| 05:36.56 | StarKruzr | NAbyss: ... zuh? Are you referring to the initrd? |
| 05:37.58 | NAbyss | StarKruzr: I'm referring to the image that needs to be built |
| 05:38.05 | NAbyss | opie-image doesn't include kopi, only opie-kdepim-image does |
| 05:38.09 | MrJesse | the mail program seems a little weird though, not always showing messages in the message list |
| 05:38.16 | StarKruzr | I'm afraid I don't know what you mean by "image." |
| 05:38.32 | StarKruzr | MrJesse: I have to tell it to load my folders and then load all the headers every time I start mail. |
| 05:38.44 | StarKruzr | also mail doesn't seem to have heard of TLS. |
| 05:39.01 | StarKruzr | opie-mail sucks a little bit, I think. |
| 05:40.31 | NAbyss | StarKruzr: When building OZ, opie-image is one of the targets, as is gpe-image etc. |
| 05:40.34 | MrJesse | yeah, opie-mail seems to not store anything locally. Which is probably a good idea normally, but with a 1G root fs, I wouldn't mind downloading mail like my laptop does |
| 05:41.23 | MrJesse | You said you have your entire root fs on a sd card? how did you do that, and what file system did you format it to? |
| 05:41.53 | StarKruzr | MrJesse: I wouldn't mind if it automatically downloaded it every time. What it does now is a little stupid, imho. |
| 05:42.16 | MrJesse | what's it doing now? |
| 05:42.22 | StarKruzr | MrJesse: it's kind of a complicated process. It's formatted to ext2. If you don't format to ext2, linking breakes. |
| 05:42.50 | StarKruzr | now it (mail) makes me select to download the folder structure and then all the emails in my inbox manually every time I launch it. |
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| 05:43.03 | MrJesse | besides the fact that I have to wait for it to load all 90 messages in my inbox whenever I open my inbox, opiemail seems to work fine |
| 05:43.22 | StarKruzr | MrJesse: there's a writeup of how to migrate root to SD, but it's incomplete. I'm going to make it part of the install guide for SL-5500 i'm re-writing |
| 05:43.27 | MrJesse | hmm. I just click the account name, then INBOX, and wait 15 seconds. |
| 05:43.33 | StarKruzr | MrJesse: are you on IMAP? |
| 05:43.36 | MrJesse | StarKruzr cool! |
| 05:43.51 | MrJesse | I'm using a pop3 server -- but it's behaving like it were imap hehe |
| 05:44.01 | StarKruzr | yeah, I'm on IMAP. that's probably why |
| 05:44.27 | MrJesse | probably if I didn't have 90 messages in my mailbox on the server I'd be happy |
| 05:44.43 | MrJesse | but I'd still like to be able to read downloaded mails and compose replies while I was offline |
| 05:44.43 | StarKruzr | NAbyss: so there are no downloadable opie-kdepim-images? you have to build it yourself? |
| 05:45.13 | NAbyss | StarKruzr: Not sure.. I tend to build straight off .dev; I'd assume that someone would build the image though |
| 05:45.21 | MrJesse | I formatted my SD as ext3, and just moved /usr to it and linked /usr to /media/card1/usr |
| 05:45.25 | StarKruzr | I think you'd assume wrong ;) |
| 05:45.33 | StarKruzr | also, kopi is available in the feeds. |
| 05:45.46 | StarKruzr | I'm looking at it, and I installed opie-image when I flashed my Z. |
| 05:46.10 | NAbyss | feeds? |
| 05:46.41 | MrJesse | I tried to install gimp, but it always crashes either qpe or the package manager hahaha |
| 05:47.09 | StarKruzr | the feeds for OZ 3.5.4. |
| 05:47.20 | StarKruzr | you know, the ipkg feeds. |
| 05:47.38 | MrJesse | I think feed refers to the list of packages available to ipkg, the package installer/removal tool. |
| 05:47.40 | StarKruzr | MrJesse: somehow I doubt GIMP is a good idea even on a 600MHz XScale ;) |
| 05:47.44 | StarKruzr | MrJesse: yup |
| 05:48.02 | MrJesse | StarKruzr: Mine is the SL-5500. only 204Mhz hahahaha. |
| 05:48.10 | MrJesse | arm I think. |
| 05:49.04 | NAbyss | StarKruzr: Ah, there's publicly hosted ipkg archives? |
| 05:49.46 | StarKruzr | Er, yes. What do you use? |
| 05:49.47 | MrJesse | NAbyss: Click the start button, go settings, then to package manager, and run it. |
| 05:50.25 | MrJesse | Then click Actions, then Update Lists. Wait a long time as it downlaods all the available packages. |
| 05:50.44 | NAbyss | StarKruzr: I tend to just stick the packages inside a custom .bb and copy it over that way, or just scp the ipkg over the lan |
| 05:50.49 | MrJesse | then click when it's done click the little red X, then click View, then Show packages not installed. |
| 05:51.02 | StarKruzr | NAbyss: what about dependencies? |
| 05:51.13 | StarKruzr | you manage them all manually, yourself? |
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| 05:51.52 | NAbyss | StarKruzr: Not really an issue with the former method - it includes the deps in the image.. the latter, yeah, tends to be a pain. |
| 05:52.16 | NAbyss | Might take a squiz at it though. |
| 05:54.12 | StarKruzr | simcop2387: W? |
| 05:54.22 | StarKruzr | Tosa with Windows? O_O |
| 05:54.24 | simcop2387 | StarKruzr: has bluetooth added |
| 05:54.26 | StarKruzr | ah. |
| 05:54.32 | StarKruzr | how much are they? |
| 05:54.49 | simcop2387 | way too expensive |
| 05:54.55 | StarKruzr | I think I might win this Spitz auction. |
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| 05:55.33 | StarKruzr | NAbyss: it's worth it, but Package Manager is, as they say on the Wiki, slightly bananas. |
| 05:55.49 | simcop2387 | non on ebay right now |
| 05:56.00 | simcop2387 | http://conics.net/shp/pda/zaurus-sl-c700/sl-6000.html some specs to drool over |
| 05:56.58 | simcop2387 | $750 on froogle, none on ebay that i saw |
| 05:57.13 | MrJesse | is that the 640x480 display unit? |
| 05:57.33 | simcop2387 | yea |
| 05:57.40 | simcop2387 | and 400mhz xscale proc |
| 05:58.38 | simcop2387 | built in wireless and bluetooth *drool* |
| 05:58.55 | simcop2387 | not as powerful as a laptop for the same price, but in the palm of your hand, i'd love it |
| 05:59.41 | MrJesse | yeah that would be quite something, although I suspect the dispaly isn't as good outdoors as, lets say, the SL-5500, which is reflective frontlit. (But then the frontlit ones don't look as good at night.) |
| 05:59.47 | StarKruzr | no HD, though. |
| 06:00.38 | MrJesse | I got a used SL-5500 for two reasons -- it ran linux -- and I'm in search of a good outdoor display to use as a readout for heading, altitude, speed, location, and the like for my model plane (http://jesseg.nikola.com:8080/foamboard/ |
| 06:00.52 | simcop2387 | my SL-5500 looks fine during the night, though its sometimes too bright and i have to turn it down |
| 06:01.22 | StarKruzr | oh dear. |
| 06:01.28 | StarKruzr | is Spitz's screen transflective? |
| 06:01.29 | MrJesse | Oh, yeah, it looks great at night -- but not quite as high contrast as a backlit ;) |
| 06:01.51 | simcop2387 | StarKruzr: no HD needed internally i think, you can get some pretty large CF cards and SD cards for decent prices |
| 06:02.00 | StarKruzr | you can, but slower than a HD |
| 06:03.50 | StarKruzr | and what do you guys use for a web browser on your Z? |
| 06:04.24 | MrJesse | I use konquerer-embeded |
| 06:04.28 | MrJesse | from the ipkg feeds |
| 06:04.33 | MrJesse | so far I like it. |
| 06:04.34 | StarKruzr | do you have the massive issues with it that I do? |
| 06:04.41 | MrJesse | also I installed links the text web browser |
| 06:04.56 | StarKruzr | doesn't work correctly with Yahoo Mail, throws CSS pages all to helll |
| 06:05.09 | StarKruzr | I wish there was a build of firefox. |
| 06:05.18 | simcop2387 | i'm using konq-embedded on my 5500, doesn't work too well, sometimes i use links/lynx |
| 06:05.34 | MrJesse | The only issues I've had is when I was repeatedly maxing out my memory with no swap enabled to see what happened, I ended up corrupting some files -- which made several apps (including konq) just segfault. But a package upgrade fixed that. |
| 06:05.36 | simcop2387 | StarKruzr: i wish so too |
| 06:05.45 | simcop2387 | StarKruzr: or at least that i could get opera working |
| 06:05.53 | MrJesse | oh, yeah, konquerer is not known to handle css or stuff very well haha |
| 06:06.14 | simcop2387 | MrJesse: well KonqEmbedded anyway, the real konqueror works fine :) |
| 06:06.26 | StarKruzr | a port of Minimo would be nice. |
| 06:06.39 | MrJesse | yeah, I am not surprised konq embeded is limited haha |
| 06:06.41 | StarKruzr | I've had issues with "Real" Konquerer too |
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| 06:08.15 | StarKruzr | hi pezi. |
| 06:08.39 | simcop2387 | minimo would be nice |
| 06:09.00 | StarKruzr | I wonder what it needs to run. |
| 06:09.13 | StarKruzr | right now it seems to only run on Windows Mobile, which is a damn shame. |
| 06:10.02 | simcop2387 | it runs on arm, i know that, i'm guessing just a UI port of some kind |
| 06:10.12 | StarKruzr | what do you guys use for a mail app? |
| 06:10.17 | simcop2387 | opie-mail currently |
| 06:10.20 | StarKruzr | just opie-mail? |
| 06:10.21 | StarKruzr | hm |
| 06:10.44 | simcop2387 | if i could find one for gpe i'd possibly switch to it, but it needs to work well on 240x320 :) |
| 06:10.48 | StarKruzr | opie-mail appears to have no support for my school's SMTP server's encryption |
| 06:10.53 | StarKruzr | simcop2387: indeed. |
| 06:12.33 | simcop2387 | setup a relay for it then :) |
| 06:12.44 | MrJesse | haha well I cannot log onto yahoo mail at all with konq embeded.. gives me "Could not connect to host login.yahoo.com" |
| 06:13.33 | simcop2387 | heh |
| 06:13.44 | simcop2387 | sounds like a personal problem :) |
| 06:13.50 | MrJesse | Ahh.. it cannot connect to secure webservers |
| 06:14.08 | simcop2387 | oh yea forgot, no https support |
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| 06:14.29 | simcop2387 | because openssl is too big for sl5500's |
| 06:14.35 | simcop2387 | on the flash anyway |
| 06:14.38 | MrJesse | ahh. |
| 06:14.47 | MrJesse | well it came with ssh --doesn't that use openssl? |
| 06:14.59 | MrJesse | even came with ssh SERVER haha (which I've enjoyed very much) |
| 06:15.02 | simcop2387 | dropbear doesn't use ssl, and doesn't support ssh2 |
| 06:15.03 | StarKruzr | you can install openssl |
| 06:15.13 | StarKruzr | that too is in the feeds |
| 06:15.25 | StarKruzr | but I suppose no one's made an encryption package for konq-embed yet |
| 06:15.27 | simcop2387 | StarKruzr: dunno if konq will use it i think it has to be compiled in |
| 06:16.10 | StarKruzr | any of you guys have a Spitz? |
| 06:16.38 | simcop2387 | why all the dog breeds? i've |
| 06:16.43 | simcop2387 | always wondered that |
| 06:18.25 | MrJesse | hahahaha but I can log into yahoo mail in links the text webbrowser. It supports ssl |
| 06:18.55 | simcop2387 | :) |
| 06:19.13 | MrJesse | it's not really formatted nicely, though. |
| 06:20.47 | NAbyss | StarKruzr: I've got a borzoi |
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| 06:22.12 | NAbyss | StarKruzr: IIRC, borzoi's the same as spitz, apart from the amount of flash |
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| 06:25.26 | StarKruzr | right |
| 06:25.40 | StarKruzr | I'm wondering if it has a transflective screen. |
| 06:25.44 | StarKruzr | also how the battery life is. |
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| 06:27.42 | MrJesseOnCollie | Hi! |
| 06:28.01 | MrJesseOnCollie | I just had to get on with my oz hehe |
| 06:30.09 | NAbyss | StarKruzr: Battery life's pretty good.. 6 or so hours, more if it's being used as an mp3 player (i.e. no display interaction) |
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| 06:34.11 | StarKruzr | so you can use it with the screen off and clamshell closed with no problem? |
| 06:34.55 | NAbyss | StarKruzr: Yep |
| 06:35.10 | NAbyss | Provided you disable the suspend-on-close |
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| 06:37.21 | darmou | hi all |
| 06:38.14 | StarKruzr | can you make it so it just turns off the display on close? |
| 06:38.48 | NAbyss | StarKruzr: Yep |
| 06:38.57 | StarKruzr | cool :) |
| 06:39.01 | NAbyss | Under opie at least.. I haven't tried gpe |
| 06:39.08 | StarKruzr | turning off the display seems to be impossible on Zaurus |
| 06:39.14 | StarKruzr | (without suspending) |
| 06:39.22 | StarKruzr | I mean on Collie |
| 06:39.32 | NAbyss | StarKruzr: Running opie? |
| 06:39.36 | StarKruzr | Aye. |
| 06:39.57 | StarKruzr | there is no applet for it, there is no setting in Light and Power for it |
| 06:40.06 | NAbyss | StarKruzr: There's an applet (on mine, at least) that allows you to control the backlight.. on borzoi, you can drag it down far enough to turn off the display.. not sure about collie |
| 06:40.11 | NAbyss | Weird.. |
| 06:40.16 | StarKruzr | Oh, you can turn the backlight down to 0. |
| 06:40.26 | StarKruzr | but the display is still on and using power. |
| 06:40.42 | StarKruzr | does this mean that Borzoi/Spitz doesn't have a transflective display? |
| 06:40.53 | StarKruzr | i.e. it's your standard TFT non-viewable-in-daylight? |
| 06:41.18 | NAbyss | It's extremely viewable in daylight, with the backlight at least 1/3 of max |
| 06:41.37 | StarKruzr | aha. |
| 06:41.42 | NAbyss | Any less than that, and it's not too readable |
| 06:44.28 | StarKruzr | that backlight must be something else. |
| 06:45.46 | StarKruzr | does the wifi card stick out a lot from the side? |
| 06:47.05 | darmou | does anyone know if zkbdd is in oz yet? |
| 06:48.23 | darmou | hrw said he was going to add it |
| 06:48.56 | NAbyss | StarKruzr: Depends what wifi card you use.. I've got a dlink dcf660w.. sticks out a centimetre or so |
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| 06:50.28 | MrJesse | By folks! |
| 06:51.49 | StarKruzr | not bad. |
| 06:51.59 | StarKruzr | dunno what zkbdd is. |
| 06:52.31 | darmou | ir keyboad driver |
| 06:57.28 | StarKruzr | there are ir keyboards? :) |
| 06:57.33 | StarKruzr | can't say I've seen one. |
| 06:57.47 | NAbyss | StarKruzr: Yeah, you can get them.. |
| 06:58.02 | NAbyss | Tend to be a bit funny though, depending on how much IR noise there is |
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| 07:00.26 | StarKruzr | so don't use them on a bright day? :) |
| 07:01.48 | StarKruzr | ok. gnite kids |
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| 07:17.54 | darmou | can a 2.6 kernel load 2.4 drivers? i'm looking for kbdsim |
| 07:21.44 | NAbyss | darmou: Highly unlikely.. |
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| 08:03.56 | simcop2387 | StarKruzr|ZZZ: i've turned off the display before on my collie, been a while since i got it to do it though |
| 08:04.20 | simcop2387 | darmou: 99.9999999999999999% of the time, no |
| 08:04.58 | simcop2387 | i'm sure theres some exception somewhere somehow, but i doubt anyone will come accross it since the module format changed between 2.4 and 2.6 |
| 08:09.28 | darmou | for sylpheed the only way I can get all the headers in the inbox is to dowload all the headers again, very tedious |
| 08:09.36 | darmou | There must be antother way |
| 08:10.06 | darmou | when I click on inbox all I see is a blank window, I have to downolada all 579 headers again to see them |
| 08:11.41 | darmou | update summary is the one I have to click on, I suppose it' better than nothing but I'm sure that old versions of sylhpeed you just had to click on the inbox folder, so I'm sure it's borked |
| 08:32.35 | simcop2387 | sounds like a bug on my computer i use sylpheed (well sylpheed-claws) and i have yet to have that problem, are you using imap? |
| 08:34.49 | darmou | yes |
| 08:35.16 | simcop2387 | wonder if its not saving the cache then for some reason |
| 08:37.21 | darmou | what is sylpheed-claws |
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| 08:39.21 | simcop2387 | darmou: dunno if its in the feeds, but its basically a newer version of sylpheed, the "unstable" (its really very stable) version with new features and things |
| 08:44.33 | darmou | how did you get it? |
| 08:45.37 | darmou | I wonder if shutdown has been fixed yet |
| 09:00.29 | XorA | darmou: shutdown? |
| 09:01.00 | XorA | darmou: sylpheed 2.2.4 is working fine for me here |
| 09:03.38 | darmou | shutdown -r -time now did not work before, I'll try it now |
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| 09:04.00 | darmou | test: !=: bad number |
| 09:04.06 | darmou | looks like it's still borked |
| 09:04.34 | darmou | test: !=: bad number is the output when you execute that command for on a c3100 |
| 09:04.42 | darmou | I think it work ok for collie |
| 09:06.48 | darmou | only way to restart is via reset key, very nasty |
| 09:12.08 | _law_ | is anyone able to use the brightness keys with latest keylaunch (2.0.10) ? |
| 09:12.59 | XorA | _law_: no |
| 09:13.21 | _law_ | XorA, so my altgr patch isnt in.... |
| 09:14.51 | XorA | _law_: I have 2.0.10r3 |
| 09:15.44 | XorA | although wont I need an appropriate .keylaunchrc |
| 09:16.17 | _law_ | hmm it is in, i?ll take a look |
| 09:16.46 | XorA | _law_: what makes the .keylaunrc in you $HOME though |
| 09:16.58 | XorA | _law_: I removed mine after gpe-conf screwed it up |
| 09:38.13 | _law_ | XorA, i think the Fn key doesnt work anymore :-( |
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| 13:51.30 | INTERROBANG | heyall |
| 13:51.39 | INTERROBANG | i'm looking for the loadkeys/dumpkeys and or loadkmap/dumpkmap commands. any1 know which OZ package has these? |
| 13:51.54 | INTERROBANG | busybox used to have the kmap commands but that seems to have changed and the keymap package refers to loadkeys, which package has load keys? |
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| 18:18.17 | *** topic/#openzaurus is OpenZaurus user discussion/support channel | developer discussion in #oe | http://www.openzaurus.org/ | Don't ask to ask, just ask. | Current release: 3.5.4 | Report OZ bugs at http://bugs.openembedded.org/ |
| 18:18.18 | raduga | bigger than an average kitty, smaller than your cat, most likely |
| 18:18.45 | raduga | something I don't understand... |
| 18:18.59 | raduga | he eats very little, but has tremendous bulk he's built up |
| 18:19.10 | raduga | most of which is muscle, but he spend nearly all his time sleeping |
| 18:19.25 | raduga | housecat, not really all that active |
| 18:19.45 | raduga | but strong, and well-defined musculature |
| 18:20.54 | raduga | I can only guess that he spends his days fighting and eating some prey animal that creeps in while I'm away |
| 18:22.20 | raduga | either that, or he comes and goes, and remembers to lock the door when he's back from adventuring in the wilderness |
| 18:28.24 | StarKruzr | ordered Akita from PriceJapan :) |
| 18:28.49 | StarKruzr | wonder if anyone wants a Collie with some of the silver paint loved off. |
| 18:30.15 | raduga | starkruzr: ergh. |
| 18:30.25 | raduga | you WILL need a new power adaptor, now |
| 18:30.37 | StarKruzr | that's ok. |
| 18:30.39 | raduga | since pricejapan only ships with the japanese one |
| 18:30.40 | StarKruzr | how much did you pay for yours? |
| 18:31.09 | StarKruzr | (actually, I could have gotten one from PriceJapan, but chose not to because it was $40 which I thought was a bit steep) |
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| 20:47.45 | _magnet | hi. |
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| 22:06.00 | AlefBet | Is this the place to talk about installation issues? |
| 22:08.00 | AlefBet | I was wondering if there's a place I can find a 2.4-based OS for the SL-C3200. |
| 22:08.33 | AlefBet | I flashed the device without repartitioning, and now I need a working OS that installs to the flash section so I can partition. |
| 22:08.56 | AlefBet | The older versions for the C3100 refuse to install on the device because it's the wrong number. |
| 22:08.59 | AlefBet | wrong model. |
| 22:09.02 | AlefBet | Any pointers? |
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