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| 00:37.42 | JoeSchmo | someone wouldn't happen to have a evas-x11 and ecore-x11 ipk? or a feed that has them |
| 00:45.32 | JustinP | JoeSchmo: those should be ok, I think |
| 00:45.36 | JustinP | JoeSchmo: AFAIK |
| 00:45.54 | JustinP | JoeSchmo: I'm really not sure why they're failing...unless you installed them without deps |
| 00:45.59 | JoeSchmo | i'm seeing this, Critical error: No Evas engine available. Exiting. |
| 00:46.10 | JustinP | oh fun one |
| 00:46.27 | JustinP | I suggest reflashing and reinstalling task-e-x11 with deps |
| 00:46.33 | JustinP | or checking all of your deps |
| 00:46.37 | JoeSchmo | that's the point i'm at |
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| 00:46.42 | JustinP | I have to run for some hours...be back in a while... |
| 00:46.54 | JustinP | (yes, but did you install all of the EFL libs with deps? |
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| 00:47.02 | JoeSchmo | yea |
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| 00:47.18 | Ecco | Hello guys |
| 00:47.19 | JustinP | hmmmm |
| 00:48.20 | JoeSchmo | i'm goona install binutils and do some binary diving |
| 00:48.36 | JustinP | ok |
| 00:48.48 | JustinP | strace is also a good bet |
| 00:48.56 | Ecco | Is this familiar to anyone : NOTE: Task failed: /home/user/OE/build/tmp/work/linux-openzaurus-2.6.16-r23/temp/log.do_patchcleancmd.25536 |
| 00:49.02 | Ecco | ? |
| 00:49.13 | Ecco | NOTE: package linux-openzaurus-2.6.16-r23: task do_patch: failed |
| 00:49.15 | Ecco | :-/ |
| 00:49.28 | hobbs | Ecco: yes. The filename is there so that you can read it ;) |
| 00:49.44 | Ecco | hobbs, get away from me will you |
| 00:50.04 | JustinP | Ecco: read the log |
| 00:50.09 | Ecco | I did |
| 00:50.12 | Ecco | It says the same thing |
| 00:50.21 | JustinP | look higher |
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| 00:50.45 | Ecco | Hmm |
| 00:51.18 | Ecco | line 522: syntax error near unexpected token INHIBIT_PACKAGE_STRIP |
| 00:53.52 | Ecco | Oh, looks like I found a workaround |
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| 01:57.08 | Pendalar | hmm anyone with sufficient access to the oz website on? |
| 01:57.19 | Pendalar | was going to talk to hrw or mickeyl.. but apparently not a good time |
| 02:00.06 | johnX | they tend to be on later (maybe 5 or 6 hours from now) |
| 02:01.27 | Pendalar | that'll be 4am for me =-) but I'll check if I can |
| 02:02.46 | johnX | they might be on earlier or at different times, but they do both live in Europe |
| 02:03.15 | Ecco | east coast sucks :p |
| 02:03.22 | Ecco | just kidding |
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| 02:05.43 | simcop2387-zauru | i've got a problem, ive lost or broken all of my styluses |
| 02:05.58 | syn-- | i replaced mine with |
| 02:06.15 | hobbs | simcop2387-zauru: Find a replacement stylus pack for the Palm Zire. It fits in the slot with just a tiny bit of overhang, it's pretty comfortable. |
| 02:06.39 | syn-- | palms tungsten | W stylus |
| 02:06.50 | syn-- | it fits good and is good size and weight |
| 02:07.04 | syn-- | metal |
| 02:07.21 | simcop2387-zauru | hobbs the 5 dollars i have i need to spend on cards for mothers day in the morning |
| 02:07.26 | hobbs | that's probably better then, if you like metal |
| 02:07.45 | hobbs | the zire ones are low-end, all-plastic. But they come 3 for $4 ;) |
| 02:08.00 | simcop2387-zauru | hmm |
| 02:08.04 | hobbs | simcop2387-zauru: slacker. You should have bought your cards already ;) |
| 02:08.36 | johnX | streamlinecpus.com has a two pack of Zaurus styluses for $13 |
| 02:09.20 | simcop2387-zauru | i havent been able to ive been either entertaining my grandmother or cleaning for my brothers graduation |
| 02:09.50 | syn-- | i got mine on clearance at radio shack aka the source |
| 02:10.04 | simcop2387-zauru | eww rs |
| 02:10.45 | hobbs | I got a collie (with stylus) just a week or so ago, and managed to break the tip off the stylus within the first half hour of owning it |
| 02:10.49 | hobbs | those things are so fragile ;) |
| 02:11.22 | syn-- | i never had original stylus |
| 02:13.19 | simcop2387-zauru | on my original stylus the top brole off the tip is fine |
| 02:13.48 | hobbs | simcop2387-zauru: get out the welding torch, and we could have one good stylus and one completely broke stylus between us ;) |
| 02:14.00 | simcop2387-zauru | heh |
| 02:14.19 | simcop2387-zauru | i was going to use superglue but welding sounds more fun |
| 02:18.41 | simcop2387-zauru | why |
| 02:19.01 | simcop2387-zauru | oh yea hobbs did you email the kernel patches and all? |
| 02:19.20 | hobbs | simcop2387-zauru: why, is so that I can buy an akita without feeling bad |
| 02:19.27 | simcop2387-zauru | ha |
| 02:19.30 | hobbs | simcop2387-zauru: and no. I wasn't sure if you wanted them |
| 02:19.43 | simcop2387-zauru | of course i want them! |
| 02:19.51 | simcop2387-zauru | its neat as hell |
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| 02:21.00 | hobbs | simcop2387-zauru: alright. How about if I just post the stuff on the intarwebs? Easier than email for me ;) |
| 02:21.31 | simcop2387-zauru | cool |
| 02:23.05 | simcop2387-zauru | its too bad there isnt a way to easily add it to the modules that do the normal audio out and create another volume control so that you end up with the ability to do spealer output and headphone output on the same device |
| 02:23.31 | simcop2387-zauru | im getting pretty good at typing on here |
| 02:23.35 | hobbs | simcop2387-zauru: Probably wouldn't be fantastically hard, actually |
| 02:24.42 | simcop2387-zauru | probably not but not fantastically easy either |
| 02:25.33 | hobbs | yesterday I did beep-media-player -> esound -> wifi -> esd on zaurus -> stereo more or less for fun |
| 02:25.34 | hobbs | worked well |
| 02:25.59 | hobbs | simcop2387-zauru: anyway, the patch is up now; I'm rebuilding the kernel and modules so I can make sure they're clean. Shouldn't take too long |
| 02:27.30 | hobbs | simcop2387-zauru: do you have an OE tree? |
| 02:28.30 | syn-- | do all cf ethernet cards work with oz? |
| 02:30.12 | simcop2387-zauru | hobbs i did i can get another if you like |
| 02:30.25 | hobbs | simcop2387-zauru: hmm? |
| 02:30.39 | simcop2387-zauru | syn dunno about all but i know alot of them do |
| 02:31.13 | syn-- | k |
| 02:32.32 | simcop2387-zauru | if your looking for a decent wireless card the sandisk wireless + 128mb flash works well and gets good reception |
| 02:33.28 | hobbs | simcop2387-zauru: http://hobbs.dynup.net/collie-2.4-kernel-w-buzzer-patch.tar.gz |
| 02:34.12 | simcop2387-zauru | how long will that be up |
| 02:35.02 | hobbs | for the foreseeable future |
| 02:35.05 | hobbs | or until I update it ;) |
| 02:35.18 | simcop2387-zauru | k |
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| 02:42.10 | simcop2387-zauru | anyone know of a good drugwars clone for opie? |
| 02:43.00 | hobbs | heh |
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| 03:31.56 | punk-ass | hobbs: does sa1100_bi.o cause a kernel panic for you? |
| 03:32.15 | hobbs | punk-ass: on load? |
| 03:33.46 | punk-ass | yeah I guess that is how it would happen for you, I have all of my modules in a chroot on mmc |
| 03:33.54 | hobbs | punk-ass: no, definitely not |
| 03:34.00 | punk-ass | so I load it after bootup |
| 03:34.05 | hobbs | punk-ass: I meant on load of the module |
| 03:35.07 | punk-ass | oh shouldn't have said anything |
| 03:35.07 | punk-ass | if net_fd is loaded first it is fine |
| 03:35.22 | punk-ass | modprobe doesn't know the order needed I guess |
| 03:35.34 | hobbs | it should |
| 03:35.37 | hobbs | you did depmod? |
| 03:38.31 | punk-ass | good point, I think I did, but I can't be sure since I have updated them a few times now |
| 03:38.44 | punk-ass | but I just did now |
| 03:48.57 | punk-ass | hobbs: so is the buzzer code still causing trouble? |
| 03:49.18 | hobbs | punk-ass: hmm? |
| 03:49.47 | punk-ass | where opie's clicks or buzzme only work once |
| 03:49.58 | punk-ass | and then hang |
| 03:50.08 | hobbs | punk-ass: I haven't been able to reproduce the problem |
| 03:50.23 | hobbs | punk-ass: if you can get it to do it again, sending me a copy of the output of dmesg would help |
| 03:51.58 | punk-ass | ah ok |
| 03:52.02 | punk-ass | happens reliably for me |
| 03:52.07 | punk-ass | i'll have to recompile for debugging |
| 03:52.58 | hobbs | punk-ass: oh, I see why |
| 03:53.15 | hobbs | punk-ass: the version of the patch I posted is from before I fixed that bug ;) |
| 03:53.31 | hobbs | punk-ass: hang on while I fix that ;) |
| 03:53.31 | punk-ass | ah cool |
| 03:53.40 | punk-ass | well i'll have to recompile for the fix then |
| 03:53.51 | hobbs | punk-ass: meanwhile if you just want a replacement copy of the one module that's affected, I could send it |
| 03:54.12 | punk-ass | no thanks, no hurry |
| 03:56.18 | hobbs | punk-ass: rediffing. You want the patch before or after I rebuild on my own and make sure that was the right fix? The actual code that I compiled my working version from is on my work machine and not available atm ;) |
| 03:57.15 | punk-ass | after |
| 03:57.37 | hobbs | I'm 99% sure that this was the only change left to make, but we'll see :) |
| 04:00.17 | hobbs | simcop2387-zauru: the file that I linked you earlier is also affected by that bug. I'd suggest not using it :) |
| 04:01.21 | punk-ass | or turn off all opie clicks if you already are |
| 04:01.35 | hobbs | if you don't like lockups ;) |
| 04:01.36 | punk-ass | preferably while playing an mp3 on dsp1 |
| 04:02.04 | punk-ass | well I guess that would be difficult to do if you use opie to play the mp3 :) |
| 04:09.39 | hobbs | okay, obviously that's not the whole fix ;) |
| 04:13.06 | hobbs | ah, there we go |
| 04:13.18 | hobbs | helps to flush the buffers _before_ disabling the sound hardware, instead of trying to do it _after_ |
| 04:17.26 | hobbs | punk-ass: okay, tested working. You ready? |
| 04:21.55 | punk-ass | yeah |
| 04:23.18 | hobbs | http://hobbs.dynup.net/zsound.patch again |
| 04:23.23 | hobbs | unapply the previous one first of course :) |
| 04:36.04 | hobbs | by the way, for the kernel you really should just set up a cross environment instead of going through qemu. Would be a whole lot faster. And the stuff you need for the Z kernel you can get in one big tarball |
| 04:38.12 | punk-ass | yeah, but after this compile I probably won't be compiling the kernel again for a long time |
| 04:38.33 | punk-ass | it is slow but its not too bad |
| 04:39.29 | JustinP | ~praise OE |
| 04:39.31 | ibot | All hail OE! |
| 04:39.36 | hobbs | haha |
| 04:39.57 | hobbs | ~praise xenu |
| 04:39.58 | ibot | All hail xenu! |
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| 05:17.00 | punk-ass | arch/arm/mach-sa1100/sa1100.o: In function `Collie_TC35143F_enable': |
| 05:17.00 | punk-ass | collie_suspend.S:(.text+0x3b58): undefined reference to `collie_buzzer_volume' |
| 05:17.25 | hobbs | punk-ass: that's interesting |
| 05:18.14 | punk-ass | I didn't reverse the patch since I had edited the source |
| 05:18.23 | punk-ass | so I rm -rf'd the source dir and repatched it |
| 05:18.30 | punk-ass | and used the old .config |
| 05:18.47 | punk-ass | they were still selected as modules |
| 05:19.35 | hobbs | punk-ass: I see the code that's causing the error, but I wonder why it didn't cause any problem here |
| 05:21.39 | hobbs | punk-ass: oh |
| 05:21.51 | hobbs | punk-ass: wait, no... I'm confused ;) |
| 05:22.39 | hobbs | punk-ass: either the patch didn't get applied, or... I don't know. That file shouldn't even be compiling |
| 05:23.15 | hobbs | punk-ass: the code that's causing that error is arch/arm/mach-sa1100/collie_buzzer.c |
| 05:23.24 | hobbs | punk-ass: but my patch specifically removes mention of that file from the Makefile |
| 05:23.32 | hobbs | punk-ass: so somehow you didn't apply the patch correctly |
| 05:24.22 | punk-ass | looks like it :) |
| 05:25.54 | hobbs | re-untar, re-apply and recheck and make sure there weren't any rejected hunks during patching. If there were, but the only one is arch/arm/mach-sa1100/Makefile, then just remove mention of collie_buzzer.o manually and go on your way |
| 05:26.08 | hobbs | (any rejections mean that you're not patching against exactly the same source I amL) |
| 05:29.09 | punk-ass | does that error look consistent with not applying the patch at all? |
| 05:29.31 | punk-ass | I can't look right now because i'm compiling again |
| 05:29.40 | punk-ass | but I bet that is what it was |
| 05:29.54 | hobbs | possibly, if you didn't apply the patch but did use the config with sound as modules |
| 05:30.19 | punk-ass | if there were errors from patch I would have noticed it |
| 05:30.19 | hobbs | then that piece of collie_buzzer code wouldn't have been able to see a particular other bit of code |
| 05:31.35 | punk-ass | i've spent so long doing nothing with the buzzer, i'm just as interested in buzzme etc as I am with dsp1 |
| 05:31.56 | hobbs | punk-ass: well that works perfectly well on an unpatched kernel |
| 05:32.09 | hobbs | but being able to play more than two sounds is a plus in my book ;) |
| 05:32.13 | punk-ass | this code (dsp1) has been pretty legendary in the zaurus community though |
| 05:32.26 | hobbs | how's that? |
| 05:32.52 | punk-ass | ive heard it talked about a lot, like in the context of "there is a patch out there that lets you play music with the internal speaker" |
| 05:33.03 | punk-ass | or even "i've heard there is a patch out there..." |
| 05:33.08 | hobbs | heh |
| 05:33.16 | hobbs | that's funny. |
| 05:33.33 | punk-ass | but I don't think I can remember anyone saying they used it |
| 05:33.37 | hobbs | last time I used OZ (before I smashed my old zaurus) I'm 99% sure it was included by default |
| 05:33.51 | punk-ass | although I didn't pay attention to the zaurus community for large periods of time |
| 05:34.03 | punk-ass | so it was probably default during that time |
| 05:35.07 | punk-ass | I know buzzme works with the normal kernel, just had the z for so long without using the buzzer at all |
| 05:35.16 | punk-ass | so it is new to me even if I had the ability to use it all that time |
| 05:35.29 | hobbs | yeah, I gotcha |
| 05:54.21 | hobbs | yeah blood in the streets it's up to my ankles, blood in the streets it's up to my knees |
| 05:54.31 | hobbs | blood in the streets in the town of chicago, blood on the rise it's followin' me |
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| 06:25.00 | jtd | su goys |
| 06:25.03 | jtd | er, so guys |
| 06:25.34 | jtd | anyone here have an Akita or other machine they put pdaXrom on and now can't flash OZ successfully? |
| 06:26.23 | hobbs | su: Unknown id: goys |
| 06:28.12 | jtd | :p |
| 06:28.34 | jtd | bash: error: duser is runk |
| 06:29.44 | hobbs | <thewird> i didn't know programmers got frunk |
| 06:29.49 | hobbs | --#perl, earlier |
| 06:30.06 | jtd | heh |
| 06:30.19 | jtd | suppose you don't know about Akita's :/ |
| 06:30.26 | hobbs | sorry, not yet ;) |
| 06:30.29 | jtd | Akitas, rather, sans apostrophe |
| 06:30.51 | hobbs | I think I found a buyer for my Collie |
| 06:30.54 | jtd | this is incredibly frustrating. |
| 06:31.00 | hobbs | if that goes through I'll be looking to learn a lot more about Akitas ;) |
| 06:31.11 | jtd | all the instructions for installing say "1) Ensure that your C1000 machine has a standard flash partitioning (e.g. as it was originally), flashing may fail if this is not the case" |
| 06:31.21 | jtd | but NOTHING tells you what the "standard flash partitioning" is! |
| 06:32.08 | hobbs | jtd: I believe that the first partition should be 64MB and formatted FAT16 |
| 06:33.25 | jtd | hm |
| 06:33.30 | jtd | I'm not sure how to do that. |
| 06:33.44 | hobbs | jtd: what's the device show up as, /dev/hda? |
| 06:33.54 | jtd | oh, wait. |
| 06:33.59 | jtd | I may have just answered my own question. |
| 06:34.01 | jtd | one moment. |
| 06:39.15 | jtd | ok, so here's a crazy question. how do I format it FAT16? |
| 06:39.22 | johnX | you don't |
| 06:39.36 | jtd | told you it was a crazy question. ;) |
| 06:39.47 | jtd | what happens? the image takes care of that? |
| 06:39.54 | johnX | yeah |
| 06:39.56 | jtd | k. |
| 06:40.19 | johnX | also you can't format the flash in the Zaurus with an fs that expects a block device |
| 06:40.31 | johnX | this is all AFAIK |
| 06:40.50 | johnX | I'm pretty sure the options are jffs2 or cramfs |
| 06:41.00 | johnX | I think the partitioning is the only important part anyways |
| 06:41.42 | hobbs | johnX: I thought it was exposed as mtdblock. But I could well be wrong |
| 06:41.42 | jtd | fair enough. |
| 06:41.49 | jtd | okay, I just did some juggling to repartition things. |
| 06:41.55 | jtd | let's see if this works right this time. |
| 06:42.22 | johnX | hobbs: Well, it's entirely possible that I'm wrong, but mine seems to be jffs2 and I've never really heard about anyone using anything else... |
| 06:42.23 | jtd | actually, let's format the user partition first |
| 06:42.45 | hobbs | johnX: fair enough. I don't have the device, so I'm inclined to believe you ;) |
| 06:42.59 | jtd | johnX: every time my system started on pdaXrom, it complained at boot about "wrong magic" and "bad boot block" or something like that. |
| 06:43.02 | jtd | still booted though. |
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| 06:43.23 | jtd | johnX: what do you run on yours? |
| 06:43.39 | johnX | OZ/GPE built out of an unstable OE tree |
| 06:44.00 | jtd | I really need to get around to putting OE on this machine |
| 06:44.03 | johnX | I might well switch to 3.5.4.1 rc? soon |
| 06:44.44 | johnX | jtd: I do remember seeing something messages talking about bad magic this-and-that on the 2.4.x kernels in OZ on Akita |
| 06:45.21 | jtd | that's the one, all right. |
| 06:46.29 | johnX | hobbs: I just ran df -h on my Akita...It shows /dev/mtdblock2 mounted on / type jffs2 for example |
| 06:47.24 | johnX | er, "mount" rather than "df -h" |
| 07:02.27 | jtd | NICE. |
| 07:02.35 | jtd | Holy CRAP, GPE is SLICK. |
| 07:04.06 | jtd | do we use the mail light as a flash access indicator now? |
| 07:04.30 | punk-ass | hobbs: still seems to have issues |
| 07:04.39 | hobbs | punk-ass: what's up? |
| 07:04.47 | jtd | buzzer? |
| 07:04.48 | punk-ass | buzzme worked fine with -n |
| 07:04.51 | hobbs | jtd: slick, but still lacking in polish |
| 07:04.52 | jtd | heh |
| 07:04.53 | punk-ass | did it a few times |
| 07:05.01 | punk-ass | then played an mp3 on dsp1 |
| 07:05.04 | punk-ass | also seemed fine |
| 07:05.22 | punk-ass | then tried buzzme again, and it just makes quiet sounds |
| 07:05.34 | punk-ass | for at least a minute before I killed it |
| 07:05.50 | hobbs | punk-ass: like it sounds sort of like a geiger counter? |
| 07:06.21 | punk-ass | I guess thats what it sounds like |
| 07:06.26 | punk-ass | but im not familiar enough with that |
| 07:06.42 | punk-ass | seems like cricket chirping pattern, but with a frog voice :) |
| 07:07.04 | hobbs | that's... interesting |
| 07:07.17 | hobbs | can you capture dmesg and send it to me? |
| 07:07.21 | punk-ass | yeah |
| 07:07.30 | jtd | why is GPE's package manager not showing me uninstalled packages? |
| 07:07.41 | jtd | I have "installed" and "uninstalled" both selected |
| 07:07.44 | hobbs | jtd: did you update the lists? |
| 07:07.47 | jtd | I sure did |
| 07:08.02 | hobbs | no ideas then |
| 07:08.09 | jtd | let's do it again and see what happens |
| 07:08.15 | jtd | still empty |
| 07:08.16 | jtd | wtf man |
| 07:10.30 | jtd | ah. that'd be why. |
| 07:10.40 | jtd | package manager lies when it says it's updating the package database. |
| 07:16.35 | jtd | a) what do you guys recommend for a media player for GPE? b) how do I make it so that package manager runs suid root? |
| 07:17.06 | hobbs | jtd: I wasn't able to find one that didn't crash |
| 07:17.07 | johnX | for music I use mpd and glurp |
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| 07:17.32 | jtd | didn't we used to have xmms? |
| 07:17.51 | hobbs | jtd: that was a port to Qt/E, believe it or not |
| 07:17.56 | jtd | wow. |
| 07:18.22 | hobbs | punk-ass: hmm, I'm not quite sure what's going on there. Looks like the buffer with the "beep" sound is getting corrupted |
| 07:18.24 | johnX | and beep media player didn't seem to like the OZ/GPE Xserver last time I tried it... |
| 07:18.45 | johnX | that was a while ago though |
| 07:18.50 | hobbs | johnX: yeah, it doesn't. I think it's expecting a 24-bit visual to draw onto, and can't cope when it only gets 16 |
| 07:19.13 | hobbs | johnX: could probably be fixed, but I don't know much of anything about GTK stuff so it's not my job ;) |
| 07:19.50 | hobbs | punk-ass: try playing an mp3 again, and then try buzzme again -- does it work now? |
| 07:20.45 | punk-ass | ah crap opie crashed :) |
| 07:20.48 | hobbs | jtd: it works. But a frontend would be helpful. |
| 07:20.53 | punk-ass | will be a few minutes |
| 07:20.54 | hobbs | jtd: hmm... maybe gmplayer would build? |
| 07:20.59 | hobbs | punk-ass: no prob |
| 07:21.18 | jtd | hobbs: I'm just using the feeds, not building with OE |
| 07:21.29 | hobbs | jtd: I'm just pondering |
| 07:21.34 | johnX | hobbs: I tried that a couple weeks ago. mplayer's .bb will have to be massaged a little to get the gtk frontend building |
| 07:22.34 | jtd | how's mp3blaster? I like ncurses :) |
| 07:22.41 | johnX | dunno |
| 07:23.00 | johnX | I never tried it |
| 07:23.02 | johnX | my vote is still mpd and either glurp or ncmpc for a frontend |
| 07:23.10 | johnX | I think they should be in the feed... |
| 07:23.22 | JustinP | mpd+ncmpc |
| 07:23.29 | JustinP | that's what I use |
| 07:23.30 | hobbs | yeah, mpd ought to be good |
| 07:23.44 | JustinP | (in addition to mpc for remote scripts and dealing with hinge scripts) |
| 07:24.04 | hobbs | johnX: you do some work on GPE? |
| 07:24.34 | punk-ass | are those media players compiled with -march and -mtune for the specific cpu? |
| 07:24.58 | punk-ass | or are they generic arm |
| 07:25.05 | jtd | Dear Package Manager: Please work faster than molasses. Sincerely, Jarett |
| 07:25.20 | johnX | hobbs: I play around with trying to make things build. I'm not really much of a programmer though... |
| 07:25.31 | hobbs | johnX: ah, alright. |
| 07:26.10 | hobbs | johnX: that's sort of where I am. Actually I _am_ a programmer, judging by the paychecks, but GUI apps aren't my thing |
| 07:26.51 | hobbs | (neither are kernels, but I'm muddling through on this one in hopes that I can get it good enough to attract the interest of someone with a clue) |
| 07:27.09 | johnX | hobbs: Sounds a lot like my attempts to package things :) |
| 07:27.12 | punk-ass | ok testing now |
| 07:27.53 | hobbs | I need a whole new machine to be able to cope with OE. Laptop HDs aren't big enough or fast enough ;) |
| 07:28.08 | johnX | hobbs, very true |
| 07:28.25 | johnX | A separate build machine has definitely saved my sanity |
| 07:28.33 | hobbs | my lappy _is_ my machine |
| 07:29.00 | hobbs | I might change that at some point, but right now I seem to be set on an Akita instead ;) |
| 07:29.06 | lpotter | just get a usb drive |
| 07:29.23 | lpotter | i bought a 120 gb + usb enclosure for about $70 |
| 07:29.59 | hobbs | Yeah, I know. |
| 07:30.17 | hobbs | Actually I'm thinking about one of those nice home/home-office NAS jiggers |
| 07:30.52 | punk-ass | hobbs: buzzme works, mp3 works, buzzme doesn't work, mp3 works again, buzzme still doesn't work |
| 07:31.15 | hobbs | punk-ass: alright. Sounds like the buzzer data got permanently clobbered somehow. I'll look into it |
| 07:31.40 | hobbs | punk-ass: not sure why I couldn't get it to happen here though. I ran kismet earlier, it beeped like 70 times ;) |
| 07:32.12 | punk-ass | you played mp3s too? |
| 07:32.21 | hobbs | probably not |
| 07:32.30 | hobbs | not that time anyway |
| 07:32.31 | punk-ass | buzzer works fine as many times as I want to use it |
| 07:32.35 | punk-ass | until I use dsp1 |
| 07:32.35 | hobbs | I think I rebooted in between |
| 07:33.10 | punk-ass | looks like buzzme will finish on its own though if I let it |
| 07:33.13 | punk-ass | not really hanging |
| 07:33.20 | punk-ass | looks like it just slows way down |
| 07:34.17 | hobbs | punk-ass: okay, yeah, same problem here |
| 07:34.36 | hobbs | punk-ass: it's shot DMA buffers, I'm fairly sure. I'll look into it |
| 07:34.59 | hobbs | punk-ass: interesting thing though |
| 07:35.12 | hobbs | punk-ass: if you can, try playing an mp3 and while it's still running, do buzzme -j again |
| 07:35.51 | hobbs | hmm... you know what that means. It's probably not bringing the card up properly |
| 07:36.18 | punk-ass | it works even in mplayer's warmup period before the music starts |
| 07:36.44 | hobbs | punk-ass: yeah, when something open()s dsp1 it resets the card and it plays properly |
| 07:46.40 | hobbs | punk-ass: okay, think I fixed it. More voodoo but it works :) |
| 07:47.25 | hobbs | punk-ass: re-diffing |
| 07:50.59 | hobbs | this should be redone so that sharp_buz and dsp1 don't step on each other, but... not quite yet :) |
| 07:51.14 | hobbs | punk-ass: new patch, same place. |
| 07:52.02 | hobbs | JustinP: interesting. Is this external battery your own hack? |
| 07:52.19 | JustinP | no |
| 07:52.51 | JustinP | Polarmate PM85-22 |
| 07:53.00 | hobbs | JustinP: I wish I'd known about that like a year ago ;) |
| 07:53.11 | JustinP | Li-ion battery with 3 voltage output (5, 8.4, 12) |
| 07:53.17 | JustinP | I had it a year ago |
| 07:53.21 | hobbs | oh, I see |
| 07:53.26 | JustinP | :-| |
| 07:53.32 | hobbs | anyway, that's cool. |
| 07:53.42 | JustinP | using it and any laptop HD USb enclosure with an external power plug you can use it with your Z |
| 07:54.01 | JustinP | I like my FireLite, though, because it has a switch for power form USB or plug |
| 07:54.21 | JustinP | i.e. I can switch from one to the other so I can easily use it on my comp without external power |
| 07:54.37 | JustinP | and also use it on my Z without it trying to draw power from the Z |
| 07:55.11 | hobbs | nice |
| 07:55.14 | JustinP | I was actually researching making a CF=>IDE connector and the battery was part of it |
| 07:55.42 | JustinP | well...I would have used a different battery, but my collie died and then I bought a spitz so I could use USB |
| 07:55.46 | JustinP | anyway, /me off to bed |
| 07:55.50 | hobbs | punk-ass: thanks for the help, by the way |
| 07:56.21 | JustinP | I should document my rig somewhere... |
| 07:57.03 | hobbs | JustinP: CF=>IDE ought to be relatively easy, right? |
| 07:58.09 | punk-ass | yup, thanks for working on the driver |
| 07:59.59 | punk-ass | do zaurii access CF cards in their IDE compatibility mode, or as CF cards |
| 08:00.22 | punk-ass | it shows up as hda, so i'd guess IDE |
| 08:00.58 | punk-ass | I know accessing CF as IDE is easy, there are straight through adaptors for that |
| 08:01.03 | punk-ass | not sure about the reverse though |
| 08:02.00 | hobbs | punk-ass: the zaurus considers the CF to be a PCMCIA (the 16-bit kind) adapter |
| 08:02.43 | punk-ass | the CF slot itself |
| 08:02.54 | punk-ass | but I mean actual compact flash memory cards |
| 08:03.18 | punk-ass | CF cards have to be able to use the CF protocol, but also be backward compatible as IDE devices |
| 08:04.54 | jtd | ARGH |
| 08:05.18 | jtd | default GPE feeds are wrong! |
| 08:05.25 | jtd | fdsdafdf |
| 08:11.32 | JustinP | hobbs: ought to be. I had a chip that could do it, but didn't have any way to build it |
| 08:11.44 | JustinP | hobbs: there is, apparently, an adapter out for this now |
| 08:15.43 | jtd | ok |
| 08:15.51 | jtd | GPE is a little broken. |
| 08:17.13 | hobbs | punk-ass: I'm going to go to bed |
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| 09:10.46 | CoreDump|home | morning |
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| 09:29.33 | sws | hi, can someone provide a NAND backup for poodle with pxa255 ? |
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| 11:30.45 | juliux | hi all |
| 11:31.32 | juliux | i have a problem with openzaurs 3.5.4 |
| 11:32.00 | juliux | if i try to create a ext2 file system on my 1GB sd card the zaurus hangs up |
| 11:32.26 | juliux | any ideas what i can do? |
| 12:08.44 | NAbyss | Would it be too cynical to just tell him to use CF instead? |
| 12:15.55 | johnX | mine's working, but I'm building out of unstable :shrugs: |
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| 13:24.36 | enodr | hi |
| 13:25.25 | enodr | I am trying to make a .bb for wifi-radar, but I need some advices... the bitbake documentation is quite vague |
| 13:26.07 | enodr | In the Makefile, the destination dirs are defined as: sbindir = /usr/sbin |
| 13:26.07 | enodr | , ... |
| 13:27.14 | enodr | it means it tries to install stuff in my system dir, not in the bitbake build dir. What should I do? Patch the Makefile? or is there some magic to define in the .bb ? |
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| 13:36.57 | juliux | i have a problem with openzaurs 3.5.4 |
| 13:37.02 | juliux | if i try to create a ext2 file system on my 1GB sd card the zaurus hangs up |
| 13:37.04 | juliux | what can i do? |
| 13:41.45 | sws | hi, can someone provide a NAND backup for poodle with pxa255 ? |
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| 14:30.01 | lardman|gone | enodr: there's a switch you can pass to make to override any paths defined in the Makefile |
| 14:31.27 | lardman | enodr: actually, have you tried bitbaking it without messing about with the makefile? |
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| 18:52.22 | jtd|Akita | hey guys. |
| 18:52.54 | jtd|Akita | does anyone know how to get Package Manager to use an alternate destination from root? |
| 18:53.46 | jtd|Akita | in opie. on Akita, in this case, but I think it may apply to any clamshell because they're all armv5. |
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| 20:35.02 | jtd | anybody know how to get Package Manager to install to destinations other than root? the option was available for the collie version but not for Akita apparently |
| 20:53.17 | CoreDump|home | jtd: ipkg -d sd |
| 20:53.27 | CoreDump|home | dunno for the GUI tingy |
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| 21:02.17 | JustinP | jtd: little drop down on the top-right? |
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| 22:08.54 | jtd | JustinP: it's just not there. |
| 22:10.08 | jtd | CoreDump|home: ipkg by itself a) doesn't link packages to root b) doesn't create icons in opie |
| 22:16.26 | jtd | also, has anyone had success with opie-volumeapplet on Akita? my volume appears to be pegged at maximum and it doesn't change, either with volumeapplet or even with the built in volume control in opie-mediaplayer |
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| 22:36.33 | tanq | hello.. |
| 22:36.39 | tanq | i have an interesting problem. .. |
| 22:37.11 | tanq | I want to be able to sync my z w/OZ on it using the Sharp sync stuff.. |
| 22:37.40 | tanq | do you think I could have it work by writing some middleware to glue them together? |
| 22:38.09 | tanq | the reason is that I have to use something that is known and not opensource. |
| 22:40.50 | tanq | better yet can i make the z dual boot |
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| 23:17.14 | simcop2387-zauru | there we are |
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