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| 02:11.22 | punk-ass | found a volume adjustment program for 5500 http://zaurus.frontgarden.net/vol.html, setterm -blank 1 (pretty much) turns the light/lcd off, now I just need a program to change the backlight level |
| 02:11.26 | punk-ass | from console |
| 02:11.28 | punk-ass | anybody know of one? |
| 02:13.49 | punk-ass | or anyone willing to write one for money? |
| 02:14.00 | punk-ass | cause im pretty sure the only programs for that are for opie/gpe |
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| 02:53.41 | punk-ass | also I made a front-end to vol.c that takes just "up" or "down" as an argument so that mplayer can use it as if it knew the sharp mixer |
| 02:53.45 | punk-ass | UP run "mix up" |
| 02:53.51 | punk-ass | DOWN run "mix down" |
| 02:54.01 | punk-ass | in input.conf |
| 02:54.07 | punk-ass | if anyone wants that |
| 02:54.16 | punk-ass | hi hobbs |
| 02:54.29 | punk-ass | any idea of controlling the frontlight from console? |
| 02:54.35 | hobbs | llo punk-ass |
| 02:54.54 | punk-ass | I found something for controlling volume from console (http://zaurus.frontgarden.net/vol.html) |
| 02:54.56 | hobbs | punk-ass: it's got to be possible considering that the opie app can do it, but I don't know the details. Probably one of the sharp char devs does it |
| 02:55.27 | punk-ass | if you are interested, i'd pay |
| 02:55.33 | punk-ass | as I said before you joined |
| 02:58.04 | punk-ass | oh also did you find anything out about cpu clock change? |
| 02:58.41 | hobbs | punk-ass: the driver compiles and loads and looks fine, but seems to do nothing. Not sure why yet. |
| 03:00.34 | punk-ass | yeah I was looking at /proc/sys/cpu/0/ today |
| 03:01.20 | punk-ass | didnt work for me either though |
| 03:03.17 | hobbs | think I found the programming details for the frontlight though |
| 03:07.47 | punk-ass | cool |
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| 03:37.36 | hobbs | punk-ass: and I have your tool ;) |
| 03:38.39 | punk-ass | woo! |
| 03:38.56 | punk-ass | have paypal? |
| 03:39.05 | hobbs | I do indeed |
| 03:39.59 | punk-ass | same email you gave before? |
| 03:40.05 | hobbs | though actually... let me look into one quick thing first. |
| 03:40.47 | punk-ass | ok |
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| 04:49.59 | george_ | sorry for the retarded questions |
| 04:50.12 | george_ | but i'm trying to install mixxx |
| 04:50.21 | george_ | and i get this qtdir error |
| 04:50.25 | george_ | any pointers |
| 04:50.27 | george_ | ? |
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| 05:19.16 | punk-ass | george_: I probably won't be able to help with this specific problem, but can you be more clear about the error you got |
| 05:19.20 | punk-ass | ? |
| 05:20.55 | punk-ass | george_: oh I see you were more specific in #zaurus, sorry :) |
| 05:24.38 | george_ | yeah |
| 05:24.43 | george_ | wrong channel |
| 05:24.47 | george_ | :) |
| 05:25.06 | george_ | i get QTDIR is not set |
| 05:25.13 | george_ | error |
| 05:25.26 | george_ | and for the life of me i don't get it |
| 05:25.39 | george_ | ./configure gives no help |
| 05:25.55 | george_ | and i pulled all the deps i think i could + more |
| 05:25.57 | hobbs | george_: didn't I already explain this to you? |
| 05:26.12 | george_ | well no you pointed me in a direction |
| 05:26.19 | george_ | and it gives me nada |
| 05:26.22 | hobbs | george_: no, I told you exactly what to do |
| 05:26.43 | george_ | QT/E yes |
| 05:27.01 | hobbs | george_: Get Qt/E. Build it, by following the instructions. When you complete those instructions you will have a set QTDIR and be able to build Qt/E apps. |
| 05:27.07 | hobbs | george_: Is that sufficiently clear? |
| 05:29.38 | george_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:31.20 | hobbs | no. |
| 05:31.22 | punk-ass | can he just get the oe cross compile tarball you were talking about before? |
| 05:31.23 | hobbs | Qt/Embedded |
| 05:31.42 | hobbs | punk-ass: no, that's just a crosscompiler. |
| 05:32.09 | punk-ass | ah |
| 05:32.17 | hobbs | george_: Spend about 30 seconds to _read_ the page before randomly clicking things. Does that look like Qt/Embedded version 3, or does it look like Qt/X11 version 4? |
| 05:32.28 | george_ | when it is clear i will write a wiki on this |
| 05:32.54 | george_ | as its somthing i need for my opensource radio station |
| 05:33.06 | george_ | ;) |
| 05:33.32 | hobbs | george_: or you could, you know, read some of the documentation that already exists instead of stumbling around figuring things out the hard way and then writing it up like it's news |
| 05:34.22 | george_ | i could also be humble as i a ma already - and not act like i know everything and anyquestion is a chore ;) |
| 05:34.43 | george_ | sorry i just have more time to help people |
| 05:34.48 | punk-ass | george_: are you even compiling this for a zaurus, or are you compiling it for a desktop linux box? |
| 05:34.48 | george_ | on things I know |
| 05:35.09 | george_ | kubuntu dapper |
| 05:35.12 | george_ | :/ |
| 05:35.54 | george_ | hence why i would write a wiki - as it would be news if it worked out |
| 05:36.17 | george_ | i gooogle and everything before i ask STUPID questions |
| 05:36.35 | george_ | not one to rely on others usualy |
| 05:36.37 | punk-ass | i'm confused, what does this have to do with sharp zaurus pdas? |
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| 05:37.40 | george_ | well the question origionaly was - "sorry for the stupid question but i am trying to install mixxx and i hae this qtdir errror - that points me towards trolltech" |
| 05:37.48 | george_ | and i cannot work out what i need to do |
| 05:38.08 | george_ | hobbs has been helpfull |
| 05:38.14 | punk-ass | well obviously you need to install qt |
| 05:38.27 | hobbs | george_: I believe the problem is that you need to learn to read English. |
| 05:38.28 | george_ | i have it and all deps etc |
| 05:38.31 | punk-ass | but if this has nothing to do with zaurii, I think you are in the wrong place |
| 05:38.45 | punk-ass | export QTDIR=/path/to/qt |
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| 05:38.49 | punk-ass | and try again |
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| 05:39.19 | george_ | hobbs: sorry but i guess you need to learn how not to be a patronising ass hole - sorry but you are one of the rudest people i met in agas |
| 05:39.20 | george_ | :) |
| 05:39.52 | george_ | damn |
| 05:39.56 | punk-ass | george_: no offense, but I don't think you have spent enough time reading the necissary documentation |
| 05:40.16 | george_ | well that is a fine statement |
| 05:40.25 | george_ | imho |
| 05:40.31 | johnX | do I need to give everyone a timeout? |
| 05:40.35 | george_ | hobs was an ass from the ouset |
| 05:40.53 | george_ | outset even |
| 05:40.56 | george_ | johnx |
| 05:40.58 | george_ | no |
| 05:41.00 | george_ | :) |
| 05:41.03 | johnX | :) |
| 05:41.13 | johnX | it's just silly watching arguments online |
| 05:41.51 | george_ | yes but when i do irc support: i try very hard not to com across as some ellite linux asshole thats all |
| 05:42.02 | george_ | we all = diff levels |
| 05:42.21 | george_ | ho hummm |
| 05:42.51 | george_ | if you want and help on linux video editing /msg me :P |
| 05:43.08 | simcop2387-zauru | anyone know a GOOD irc client for opie, e.g. stable and supports commands |
| 05:43.20 | george_ | http://scii.nl ------- kill rich people |
| 05:43.25 | george_ | night |
| 05:43.31 | george_ | morning even |
| 05:43.54 | punk-ass | killing people is wrong, thats my opinion :) |
| 05:44.55 | simcop2387-zauru | punk not if they have more money than you! |
| 05:45.17 | jtd|timeout | simcop: I have no trouble with opie-irc |
| 05:45.25 | jtd|timeout | what do you mean by "supports commands?" |
| 05:45.25 | punk-ass | george_: btw did you try that export QTDIR thing |
| 05:45.30 | george_ | punk-ass /join #opinions ;) and we work it out - /my opinion is there is lolitix behind software - and a revolution is on its way |
| 05:45.41 | george_ | politx even |
| 05:45.43 | george_ | :/ |
| 05:46.01 | simcop2387-zauru | /me qpegaim doesnt parse this at all |
| 05:46.02 | george_ | punk-ass: will do |
| 05:46.10 | simcop2387-zauru | oh it does /me just nothing else |
| 05:46.18 | george_ | its 7am i think i will sleep |
| 05:46.22 | simcop2387-zauru | /ban /kick /op etc |
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| 05:46.48 | jtd|timeout | the OE project has been accused of politicking unnecessarily. it's also been accused of having people in it sabotaging the project to "prove" that the OSS community can't develop a stable product |
| 05:46.49 | simcop2387-zauru | it doesnt do, and opie-irc segfaults on me when joining some channels |
| 05:46.57 | punk-ass | doesn't look like it handles /me from here |
| 05:47.29 | simcop2387-zauru | punks heh it displays it fine here guess it doesnt send it properly then |
| 05:47.32 | jtd|timeout | simcop2387-zauru: you know what's funny? the other day I went into Package Manager and qpegaim was missing from the packages list. 3.5.4.1-rc2/Opie on Akita |
| 05:47.51 | simcop2387-zauru | jtd hmm im on collie |
| 05:48.01 | johnX | jtd|timeout: you can come back from timeout now :) |
| 05:48.21 | jtd|timeout | hurray! can I have a cookie, too? |
| 05:48.26 | jtd|timeout | I'll be good. |
| 05:48.33 | johnX | yes, but don't press your luck |
| 05:48.40 | jtd|timeout | ok. |
| 05:48.52 | george_ | punk-ass export QTDIR=/usr/lib/qt4 worked -- thankyou ;) 0 but i'm left with -> Error processing project file: /usr/bin/qmake |
| 05:49.18 | jtd | ugh. I turned my backlight off and now I can't see to turn it back on. |
| 05:49.40 | punk-ass | hobbs just made me a backlight program tonight |
| 05:49.42 | jtd | and the Fn-key combo doesn't seem to work either. |
| 05:49.47 | punk-ass | for console |
| 05:49.49 | johnX | jtd: is your z on a network? |
| 05:49.49 | jtd | oh? |
| 05:49.56 | jtd | johnX: it sure is. |
| 05:50.16 | punk-ass | http://hobbs.dynup.net/sharpfl.tar.gz |
| 05:50.24 | jtd | ooo. |
| 05:50.29 | punk-ass | not sure if that is still online since he is gone |
| 05:50.33 | johnX | depending on the kernel version there are different commands for lplaying with the backlight from the command line |
| 05:50.50 | punk-ass | its for collie |
| 05:50.53 | jtd | ah. |
| 05:50.56 | jtd | this would be a problem. |
| 05:51.01 | punk-ass | or probably more accurately, 2.4.18 |
| 05:51.08 | jtd | a) I have no OE build environment |
| 05:51.14 | jtd | b) I have an Akita :) |
| 05:51.23 | johnX | jtd: you're on akita with 2.6, right? |
| 05:51.27 | jtd | Aye. |
| 05:51.28 | punk-ass | ah I could help with a, but not b :) |
| 05:51.42 | johnX | if so, just ssh in and ... |
| 05:53.22 | jtd | and... |
| 05:53.24 | jtd | ? |
| 05:53.43 | simcop2387-zauru | there should be an ipkg task package to replace all possible functions of busybox |
| 05:54.27 | jtd | let me know where you look that up, while you're at it :) |
| 05:54.30 | johnX | echo 30 > /sys/class/backlight/corgi-bl/brightness |
| 05:54.38 | jtd | sweet. |
| 05:54.46 | johnX | lots of fun things to play with there |
| 05:55.17 | jtd | THIS IS SO COOL :D |
| 05:55.35 | johnX | yes |
| 05:55.44 | johnX | the cool thing is :waves hand: scripts |
| 05:55.48 | simcop2387-zauru | jtd i use a cronjob that sets it randomly |
| 05:55.57 | johnX | ahahaha |
| 05:56.10 | jtd | heh |
| 05:56.12 | jtd | because you can? :) |
| 05:56.38 | jtd | man |
| 05:56.48 | jtd | I would LOVE to know the interfaces for /sys/class/lcf |
| 05:56.55 | jtd | I mean /sys/class/lcd |
| 05:57.12 | jtd | because then I could finally write that applet I've been meaning to write that'd turn the LCD on and off |
| 05:57.35 | NAbyss | jtd: But how would you see the screen to know where to tap for the applet? :) |
| 05:57.36 | jtd | come to think of it |
| 05:57.41 | jtd | the #oe guys would know that |
| 05:58.02 | simcop2387-zauru | nabyss fbvncserver! |
| 05:58.30 | jtd | NAbyss: no, I need this function for playing MP3s. I believe as it stands now it only turns off the backlight when you close the case |
| 05:58.56 | jtd | I would write it so that it would turn off the backlight and LCD when you tell it to, then waits for the next touchscreen or kb event and then switches everything back on |
| 05:59.17 | johnX | do you really save much more power for not updating the LCD? |
| 05:59.17 | jtd | simple, yet so key for power management |
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| 05:59.31 | jtd | johnX: some power is used just to keep the LCD running |
| 05:59.40 | jtd | why bother? |
| 05:59.55 | sws | does anyone have a poodle with pxa255 processor? |
| 06:00.08 | jtd | I was gonna flash to Cacko anyway. |
| 06:00.16 | johnX | right, but just turning off the backlight seems like a nice tradeoff between *really easy* and *saving a decent chunk of power* |
| 06:00.17 | jtd | guess I can play with it if I ever rotate back to GPE. |
| 06:00.20 | jtd | but GPE had other issues. |
| 06:00.39 | jtd | johnX: I have questions re: whether it even turns off the backlight. |
| 06:00.56 | jtd | what SHOULD happen is there should be a function to control all this built into opie-mediaplayer. |
| 06:01.15 | jtd | supposedly in GPE there's functionality for that in XMMS, but I have yet to figure out how it works. |
| 06:01.42 | jtd | GPE appeared to be substantially broken last time I tried it. |
| 06:02.07 | johnX | it has some rough edges here and there |
| 06:02.11 | johnX | what was broken though? |
| 06:03.11 | jtd | lemme see if I can remember |
| 06:03.22 | jtd | I think it had something to do with Package Manager |
| 06:03.29 | johnX | ah |
| 06:03.36 | jtd | oh, yes. it didn't run as root. BIG PROBLEM. |
| 06:03.44 | johnX | I never bothered using the GUI package manager |
| 06:03.56 | jtd | not using the GUI pm is a PITA, though |
| 06:04.06 | johnX | but then again I don't bother with GUI package managers on desktop linux either |
| 06:04.08 | jtd | you have to ipkg-link everything yourself |
| 06:04.17 | jtd | and create your own icons |
| 06:04.18 | johnX | ipkg-link mount /some/media/packages |
| 06:04.35 | jtd | which is irritating. |
| 06:04.50 | jtd | the workaround is you su to root and then run the PM from the command line, but it's still not ideal. |
| 06:05.01 | jtd | there were other problems too. but other than that I really liked GPE in concept. |
| 06:05.08 | jtd | I should flash back to it and submit a bunch of bugreports. |
| 06:05.21 | johnX | I flipped back and forth too |
| 06:05.38 | jtd | I'll probably end up settling on Cacko. though I'd really like to have the 2.6 kernel. |
| 06:05.42 | johnX | eventually the goodness of an xserver outweighed the couple bugs here and there |
| 06:05.49 | jtd | indeed. |
| 06:05.59 | jtd | although I keep hearing you can have X with Opie with a bit of fiddling. |
| 06:06.22 | johnX | you mean x/qt? |
| 06:06.45 | johnX | or gpe and opie on separate VTs? |
| 06:10.30 | jtd | I think the second one is supposed to be better. |
| 06:10.54 | jtd | Also, I remember one of the problems with GPE. It lacked a good MP3 player. I still can't figure out why we had no xmms. |
| 06:12.31 | jtd | One of the things I liked about pdaXrom was how polished it was, but its package list was a bit lacking and it had a lot of older technology in it. |
| 06:12.44 | johnX | I've always been a fan of glurp+mpd for mp3 playing |
| 06:13.03 | johnX | no reason you couldn't make a .bb for xmms though :nudge, nudge: |
| 06:13.05 | johnX | :) |
| 06:13.28 | jtd | I recall mpd not working for some reason. |
| 06:13.40 | jtd | Don't think I could figure out how to get it running. |
| 06:13.52 | jtd | Also, don't know what a .bb is :) |
| 06:13.57 | johnX | works great here, and you can call mpc from scripts to control it |
| 06:14.11 | johnX | .bb is the format for "recipes" in OE to build packages |
| 06:14.38 | jtd | gotcha. |
| 06:17.31 | johnX | I think I have a post on oesf.org/forums about how to make mpd work nicely if you ever go back to GPE |
| 06:20.01 | jtd | probably gonna flash it back tomorrow morning. |
| 06:20.16 | jtd | where's the post? |
| 06:20.23 | johnX | (digging it up) |
| 06:20.28 | jtd | (opie is irritating me) |
| 06:20.50 | jtd | (not least because opie-mail is a bit crap) |
| 06:21.11 | johnX | i always had problems with konqueror freezing up and taking the rest of opie with it |
| 06:21.17 | jtd | YES. |
| 06:21.18 | johnX | that's what annoyed me enough to switch |
| 06:21.27 | jtd | hates Konqueror forever, preciousss. |
| 06:21.34 | johnX | guh...a lot of my post no longer applies since glurp is in the updates feed |
| 06:21.55 | jtd | unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a lot of PIM software for GPE. |
| 06:21.59 | jtd | unless I'm missing something. |
| 06:22.09 | johnX | i guess it depends on what you want |
| 06:22.16 | jtd | I wonder if you can use Ko/Pi, Ka/Pi, etc. on GPE. |
| 06:22.37 | jtd | should it care? I suppose not, it'll just install the Qt/E libraries when I try to install them, no? |
| 06:22.51 | johnX | hmm |
| 06:23.06 | johnX | well Qt/E implies qt running on a framebuffer |
| 06:23.17 | jtd | ah. |
| 06:23.30 | johnX | what you'd really want is to compile ka/pi or what have you against qt/x11 and run it in GPE |
| 06:23.31 | jtd | which GPE is not. |
| 06:23.37 | jtd | right. |
| 06:23.46 | jtd | I would suspect that someone had done that already? |
| 06:23.49 | johnX | they run on the desktop, right? |
| 06:23.53 | johnX | under X? |
| 06:23.54 | jtd | they do. |
| 06:23.56 | jtd | mhm |
| 06:23.58 | jtd | . |
| 06:23.59 | johnX | then it should be no problem |
| 06:24.02 | jtd | you know |
| 06:24.03 | jtd | honestly |
| 06:24.25 | jtd | why doesn't someone take all the opie-* applications, compile them against qt/x11 and make them available in the feeds? |
| 06:24.33 | jtd | or has someone done that already? |
| 06:24.47 | johnX | I don't think all of them will compile cleanly against qt/x11, AFAIK |
| 06:25.06 | jtd | then you could more or less do away with Opie, really, and have the best of both without running two GUIs at once. |
| 06:25.09 | jtd | oh. |
| 06:25.12 | jtd | sad. |
| 06:25.32 | johnX | I thiink there is an effort to get them running on X11 in the long run though |
| 06:25.39 | johnX | QT4/X11 or something |
| 06:25.43 | johnX | we're venturing outside my area of expertise though |
| 06:25.50 | jtd | I really must get OE running on my linux box. |
| 06:25.57 | jtd | BitBake, whatever. |
| 06:25.58 | johnX | it's very helpful |
| 06:26.17 | johnX | here's the post on mpd/glurp: http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=16677&hl= |
| 06:26.22 | johnX | but it's *very* out of date |
| 06:26.33 | johnX | *don't* use those packages I posted for example |
| 06:26.42 | jtd | ugh. opie-packagemanager is on the drugs again. |
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| 06:27.30 | johnX | heh...maybe we should have an intervention |
| 06:28.04 | jtd | I set it on maximum verbosity just to see what it was doing |
| 06:28.17 | jtd | all kinds of locale things are happening |
| 06:28.24 | JustinP | johnX: ? mpd? |
| 06:28.30 | johnX | music player daemon |
| 06:28.32 | jtd | but it looks like it's trying to reinstall the entire system. |
| 06:28.49 | jtd | JustinP: are you an Opie user on a clamshell, by any chance? |
| 06:28.58 | JustinP | I know, I'm a semi-maintainer of it ;-) |
| 06:29.02 | JustinP | in OE, that is |
| 06:29.06 | johnX | ah |
| 06:29.13 | johnX | thanks very much then :D |
| 06:29.13 | JustinP | I even added a feature, although they didn't want it... |
| 06:29.30 | JustinP | jtd: spitz, e17 (X) + GPE progs |
| 06:29.37 | jtd | ok. |
| 06:29.42 | JustinP | jtd: I have opie images but don't use them much' |
| 06:29.46 | jtd | volume control is apparently broken on my Akita. |
| 06:29.58 | JustinP | heh, speaking of volume... |
| 06:29.59 | JustinP | ;-) |
| 06:30.03 | johnX | I almost switched to it on the desktop too, but I like being able to qeue songs too much |
| 06:30.04 | jtd | several bugs have been in the database about it since January at least. |
| 06:30.10 | JustinP | I added a "save volume state" patch to mpd. it's in OE |
| 06:30.27 | JustinP | bugs for? |
| 06:30.34 | JustinP | johnX: queue? mpd can queue.... |
| 06:30.49 | jtd | Justin: the volume gets pegged at max and you can't change it. |
| 06:30.50 | johnX | can glurp or ncmpc? |
| 06:31.00 | JustinP | of course! |
| 06:31.07 | JustinP | I always use ncmpc |
| 06:31.20 | JustinP | you just switch to file mode (tab) and press space on what you want to queue |
| 06:33.28 | johnX | i mean like: in a playlist I created, queue up 3 songs, then go back to shuffle |
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| 06:34.04 | JustinP | you mean creating multiple playlists? |
| 06:34.12 | JustinP | that's not really queueing.... |
| 06:34.34 | JustinP | you can add as many songs as you want to the current playlist and mpd has a shuffle mode.... |
| 06:34.52 | johnX | I mean temporarily overriding "random play", then returning to random once it's out of songs in the queue |
| 06:35.41 | JustinP | ....random plays songs randomly in a queue... |
| 06:35.47 | JustinP | if there's nothing left i the queue to play.... |
| 06:36.08 | JustinP | AfAIK mpd doesn't have a global shuffle mode |
| 06:36.26 | JustinP | anyway, once you define what you want perhaps you can file a feature request |
| 06:36.31 | JustinP | (for mpd's devs) |
| 06:36.33 | JustinP | night |
| 06:36.41 | johnX | 'night |
| 06:37.20 | johnX | oh, before you go, is there an E17 test image to try for Akita? |
| 06:37.54 | johnX | I'm about to flash a new gpe-image and I thought I'd give e17 a spin since I'm backing up and reflashing anyways |
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| 08:23.40 | alan|home | morning everyone |
| 08:36.32 | _law_ | hrw|work, any news form the oz-logo author? |
| 08:37.48 | hrw|work | _law_: yes |
| 08:38.28 | hrw|work | _law_: feel free to inform world about results of contest: author name is Sebastian 'xaos' Rosik |
| 08:39.38 | hrw|work | I will prepare kernel logo today and push into rc4 |
| 08:51.57 | _law_ | hrw|work, nice |
| 08:52.16 | _law_ | hrw|work, my gpe-image wont build today :-( |
| 08:52.40 | hrw|work | with which error? |
| 08:58.11 | _law_ | hrw|work, it always tried to buld qemu-native (and this one fails) |
| 08:59.25 | hrw|work | how it fails? |
| 09:00.02 | _law_ | http://paste.uni.cc/9005 |
| 09:00.27 | _law_ | perhaps we also could take a look at the bootsplash logos |
| 09:01.07 | _law_ | do i really need qemu-native ? |
| 09:01.39 | hrw|work | _law_: you do not have gcc3 on host |
| 09:02.23 | _law_ | hrw|work, no only 4.1 |
| 09:02.38 | hrw|work | then qemu will die |
| 09:02.45 | hrw|work | sorry |
| 09:03.35 | hrw|work | you need gcc3.3 or 3.4 for qemu (or disable locale generation in openzaurus-3.5.4.1.conf) |
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| 09:30.48 | prh__ | anyone know if dcraw is in the oe archives yet? (Or if there is a raw image viewer for X or opie? |
| 09:32.02 | NAbyss | prh__: I wish.. I've been trying to find the time to write a qt/e frontend |
| 09:34.26 | prh__ | ahh :O( |
| 09:34.34 | prh__ | hmm |
| 09:34.38 | CoreDump|home | morning |
| 09:34.51 | hrw|work | hi CoreDump|home |
| 09:45.10 | _law_ | hrw|work, i have already set BINARY_LOCALE_ARCHES = "" |
| 09:45.35 | _law_ | hrw|work, why do i need qemu for an gpe-image? |
| 09:45.38 | hrw|work | ENABLE_BINARY_GENERATION=0 iirc work in oz354x |
| 09:45.46 | hrw|work | _law_: for glibc locales generation |
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| 09:56.06 | _law_ | hrw|work, same problem with ENABLE_BINARY_GENERATION=0 :-( |
| 09:56.33 | hrw|work | ;( |
| 09:56.42 | hrw|work | I installed 3.4 on host |
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| 10:07.38 | _law_ | i?ll talk with XorA he also uses gcc 4.1 |
| 10:08.06 | hrw|work | qemu-native need gcc3 anyway |
| 10:11.04 | _law_ | hrw|work, and qemu-native is required for gpe-image since yesterday? |
| 10:11.26 | hrw|work | since I pushed binary locale generation to .oz354x - ~week ago |
| 10:11.57 | _law_ | hrw|work, i have written something about the graphic contest, perhaps you could take a look. |
| 10:12.10 | hrw|work | will |
| 10:14.16 | hrw|work | I'll upload logos to oz.org |
| 10:17.55 | hrw|work | _law_: http://openzaurus.org/gfx-contest/xaos/ |
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| 10:35.08 | _law_ | hrw|work, changed |
| 10:35.34 | hrw|work | thx |
| 11:00.10 | _law_ | hrw|work, newer version of qemu also doesnt work with gcc 4+ |
| 11:00.17 | _law_ | ? |
| 11:01.15 | hrw|work | iirc also does not work |
| 11:10.36 | _law_ | so i have to switch back to gcc3 ? |
| 11:11.01 | hrw|work | no - use 4.1 as normal one on host but also install 3.3 or 3.4 one |
| 11:11.13 | hrw|work | qemu-native check does 3.3/3.4 is available and use it |
| 11:11.58 | _law_ | hrw|work, a ok, now i have to find out how this should work :-) |
| 11:19.53 | _law_ | hrw|work, there is now an gcc32 (3.2.3) on my system. how can i tell qemu-native to use it? |
| 11:21.22 | hrw|work | look at recipe |
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| 11:30.52 | _law_ | hrw|work, next error :-) http://pastebin.com/720392 |
| 11:31.51 | CoreDump|home | hrw|work: the brightness patch for opie works perfectly |
| 11:32.07 | _law_ | hrw|work, perhaps you could add (http://pastebin.com/720398) do the qemu-native recipe |
| 11:33.39 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: good to know |
| 11:33.49 | hrw|work | _law_: can |
| 11:34.22 | hrw|work | _law_: why gcc32 instead of gcc-3.2? |
| 11:34.48 | _law_ | hrw|work, because its called gcc32 on fedora systems |
| 11:35.16 | hrw|work | ko |
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| 12:06.25 | hrw|work | _law_: pushed |
| 12:06.50 | _law_ | hrw|work, thanks now i only have to fix the strip problem :-) |
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| 15:03.34 | enodr | hi |
| 15:03.55 | enodr | oh, I see that I am not the only one having a 'strip' problem ;) |
| 15:12.34 | enodr | Since I have updated bitbake to 1.4.2, bitbaking apps fails on trying to build qemu-native (cannot find strip). |
| 15:13.32 | enodr | I just found that stip is part of groff-base which is installed on my system |
| 15:15.46 | enodr | umh, I needs groff for arm. But bitbaking groff wants first to bitbake qemu |
| 15:16.44 | enodr | grrr, I guess this is time for ... HELP! |
| 15:17.05 | magnet | umm |
| 15:17.38 | enodr | maybe adding depends in qemu.bb? |
| 15:17.45 | magnet | you can use bitbake path/to/bitbakefile.bb , this won t build dependencies. |
| 15:18.00 | magnet | rr |
| 15:18.08 | magnet | I did not see you error message. |
| 15:18.15 | magnet | it's just strip missing ? |
| 15:18.39 | enodr | yes strip missing, but as I said building groff wants to build qemu first .. |
| 15:20.02 | magnet | lemme check to what strip is linked, |
| 15:20.18 | magnet | you may just use a binary of strip. |
| 15:23.54 | magnet | enodr: yea you could use some strip binary, just for first build |
| 15:24.03 | raduga | apparently not set up right (or something is broken) |
| 15:24.14 | raduga | i can manually ifup and ifdown; even ifup -a, |
| 15:24.29 | raduga | and the device shows up fine (on the usb host) |
| 15:25.08 | raduga | but when i just plug it in, kernel reports "usb0: register" but doesn't actually send the ifup to make the interface active |
| 15:26.38 | raduga | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:27.34 | enodr | magnet, I need the strip binary for arm |
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| 15:28.54 | magnet | enodr: I'll give it to you |
| 15:29.43 | magnet | just I got network trouble with my Z, I need some minuts to use sd card |
| 15:30.56 | enodr | magnet: I just figured strip is present in my tmp/cross/arm-linux dir. Maybe since the bitbake update I need to clear my tmp dir (what I haven't done) |
| 15:32.00 | magnet | maybe..backup it first :) |
| 15:32.15 | enodr | magnet: yes, did a backup ;) |
| 15:40.00 | magnet | hrw|work: I still have network troubles with my planex wifi card |
| 15:40.17 | magnet | I tried updating as you suggested, but without results; |
| 15:41.52 | hrw|work | I will release rc4 today/tomorrow |
| 15:41.57 | hrw|work | cu |
| 15:42.18 | magnet | cya |
| 15:42.30 | magnet | I found the rc4 directory already :) |
| 16:42.18 | raduga | can anyone send me what their X calibration values are? |
| 16:42.30 | raduga | (gpe/akita preferred, but anything will do) |
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| 17:05.50 | syn-pda | is there an irc client that supports ssl ? |
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| 18:06.51 | YoG | hi, can someone help me with gpe? |
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| 18:40.39 | hrw | oz 3.5.4.1-rc4 tomorrow |
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| 19:11.51 | coredump | <hrw> oz 3.5.4.1-rc4 tomorrow |
| 19:11.51 | coredump | * hrw is now known as hrw|gone |
| 19:11.57 | coredump | talk about quick release notices... |
| 19:12.16 | coredump | CoreDump|home, hello nick friend :) |
| 19:15.14 | jtd | is there a changelog somewhere? |
| 19:15.27 | jtd | I'd like to see if any of the bugs I've been encountering are getting fixed |
| 19:16.01 | hrw | jtd: if you did not report them then they got not fixed probably |
| 19:16.14 | hrw | bugs which are not in bugtracker DO NOT exist |
| 19:16.51 | coredump | hrw, good point. |
| 19:16.54 | hrw | but ofcourse there are users which ignore such stuff |
| 19:16.55 | hrw | ~users |
| 19:16.57 | ibot | so this is what we get for sharing our unpaid volunteer work with you? complaints and accuses? <irony> well done, this clearly supports our motivation to continue working on open source projects. </irony> |
| 19:17.46 | hrw | or as someone told one day: those who do nothing do not have rights to complain |
| 19:18.29 | coredump | Can I use Multisync to sync OpenZaurus stuff? |
| 19:18.55 | coredump | I tried, files are uploaded/donwloaded, but my exchange data does not to the zaurus |
| 19:19.20 | hrw | dont know |
| 19:19.26 | hrw | and time for movies.. |
| 19:19.29 | hrw | cu |
| 19:22.23 | coredump | hmmm |
| 19:27.42 | enodr | I am trying to compile qpe app in OE, but I am quite unconfortable with .bb files |
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| 19:28.51 | enodr | In the .pro file there's a TMAKE_CFLAGS= ... -fgnu-linker , and I want to remove the -fgnu-linker |
| 19:29.20 | enodr | I thought that defining: EXTRA_QMAKEVARS_POST +="CFLAGS-=-fgnu-linker CXXFLAGS-=-fgnu-linker" in the .bb would do the work, but it doesn't |
| 19:30.06 | enodr | and I can't find any advanced info about .bb (except OE wiki) |
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| 20:03.53 | jtd | hrw: it's not like I don't report bugs O_o |
| 20:04.20 | jtd | often someone has already reported them and I add a note to the report, though. |
| 20:04.44 | jtd | in one case a bug has apparently been known for 5 months and no fix. |
| 21:04.43 | enodr | Anyone already had this strange error with diff/patch: "missing header for unified diff at line 3 of patch" |
| 21:04.58 | enodr | I can't see anything wrong with the patch, but it won't apply :/ |
| 21:10.35 | bronson | enodr, I've seen some patch utilities that care about odd stuff like date formats and filenames. |
| 21:11.26 | bronson | I'd just find a patch with a header that applies then crib from that. |
| 21:11.55 | enodr | that's a pain |
| 21:12.28 | enodr | Umh, just noticed my files where in "dos format", maybe that's the reason (CR problem?) |
| 21:14.18 | hobbs | enodr: likely |
| 21:51.44 | enodr | ld can't find libz.so.1, etc, when linking. Anyone knows what flags I should add in the .bb file? (it's a qte application) |
| 21:52.41 | CoreDump|home | re |
| 21:52.54 | enodr | re |
| 21:53.08 | enodr | CoreDump|home, do you have any clue? |
| 21:54.05 | CoreDump|home | not really, no |
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| 22:49.08 | jtd | is anyone else having trouble with GPE's Bugzilla? |
| 22:49.18 | jtd | I'm trying to create an account and it's taken five minutes so far. |
| 23:33.03 | jtd | what creates resolv.conf? |
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