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| 07:32.57 | CoreDump|home | morning |
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| 08:29.39 | CoreDump|home | hrw|gone: I've pushed "oz-bootsplash", the barebone bootsplash we were talking about |
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| 09:22.05 | Timelord | Did the work on Poodle kernel 2.6 halt? The update page kinda... stopped getting new updates. :o |
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| 09:24.50 | hrw | Timelord: CoreDump mainly worked on userspace problems and resolved them |
| 09:25.07 | hrw | Timelord: but he is not kernel hacker so he stopped |
| 09:25.17 | CoreDump|home | indeed, morning hrw |
| 09:25.19 | hrw | Timelord: and RP has many misc things to do |
| 09:25.27 | hrw | CoreDump|home: thx for oz-bootsplash |
| 09:25.46 | CoreDump|home | hrw: my pleasure, I've moved hentges to it already ;) |
| 09:25.57 | hrw | CoreDump|home: will use it in 3.5.4.1 (if^Wwhen ewi will get back) |
| 09:26.12 | CoreDump|home | yeah, ewi is a real bummer |
| 09:26.32 | Timelord | I wish Sharp didn't make Poodle the red headed bastard child. |
| 09:26.47 | hrw | I was thinking about stopping using ewi for building at all |
| 09:26.48 | Timelord | Excellent platform, idiot company. |
| 09:26.53 | CoreDump|home | Timelord: that has nothing to do w/ sharp, only w/ OZ not having access to one for years |
| 09:27.15 | Timelord | I know... was on a different gripe. -_- |
| 09:27.19 | hrw | but then I would have to build on my machine which I want to avoid (170kbps upload suxx) |
| 09:27.24 | CoreDump|home | and poodle only having 32Mb of RAM didn't help either =) |
| 09:27.45 | hrw | CoreDump|home: and two flavours of poodle also does not help... |
| 09:27.49 | CoreDump|home | hrw: that's the reason I always use the OZ feeds hehe |
| 09:27.51 | hrw | poodle250 poodle255 |
| 09:27.55 | CoreDump|home | hrw: indeed |
| 09:28.05 | Timelord | Red headed step child. :| |
| 09:28.16 | CoreDump|home | Timelord: until the kernel stuff gets resolved, my poodle will only collect dust |
| 09:28.35 | CoreDump|home | can't do anything for it until then |
| 09:28.35 | Timelord | Mine has collected dust since I first bought it. ;_; |
| 09:28.39 | hrw | fsck.. fridge is fscking loud after redecoration.. |
| 09:28.40 | CoreDump|home | =) |
| 09:28.50 | hrw | I will have that dust collector tomorrow |
| 09:28.55 | CoreDump|home | hrw: hehe |
| 09:29.08 | CoreDump|home | and the tosa ;) Glad you finally got one! |
| 09:29.15 | hrw | 5500 dust collector, 5600 dust collector... |
| 09:29.22 | hrw | CoreDump|home: its project device |
| 09:29.25 | Timelord | Bought the expansion sleeve as well. |
| 09:29.28 | CoreDump|home | of course |
| 09:29.42 | CoreDump|home | Timelord: there is a sleeve for Poodle?? |
| 09:29.44 | hrw | CoreDump|home: which part of germany you are? |
| 09:29.46 | Timelord | I *love* the feel of an old gameboy form factor. |
| 09:29.51 | CoreDump|home | cologne |
| 09:30.09 | Timelord | CoreDump|home: Yep. Second battery (identical to first) and secondary CF. |
| 09:30.12 | CoreDump|home | and thank good a good deal away from the cologne wm06 stadion |
| 09:30.32 | hrw | CoreDump|home: plan to go to berlin to OE meeting? |
| 09:30.49 | Timelord | ...this not being common knowledge might explain why I have never seen mention of second battery status. :P |
| 09:30.51 | CoreDump|home | nah rather not, I'm a bit short on cash to be honest :\ |
| 09:31.02 | hrw | common problem |
| 09:31.17 | CoreDump|home | Timelord: hehe |
| 09:32.05 | hrw | CoreDump|home: why maps.google show oln when I enter 'cologne, germany'? |
| 09:32.22 | hrw | s/oln/Koln |
| 09:32.36 | CoreDump|home | Köln == Cologne in german |
| 09:32.44 | hrw | ah |
| 09:33.04 | hrw | good to know |
| 09:33.17 | CoreDump|home | there even is a Cologne in the states |
| 09:33.35 | CoreDump|home | I'm always getting "Meet women in Cologne" targeted google adds =) |
| 09:33.37 | Timelord | I would have sold my poodle but frankly, I got fucked over on the cost and usability and I refuse to sell it for a tiny fraction of what I paid. |
| 09:34.12 | Timelord | It has not decreased in value if I haven't sold it for pennies. ;_; |
| 09:34.21 | CoreDump|home | heh |
| 09:34.30 | CoreDump|home | Timelord: it will be moved to 2.6 eventually |
| 09:34.43 | CoreDump|home | http://hentges.net/tmp/Poodle-Kernel-2.6/ |
| 09:35.02 | CoreDump|home | but to be honest, the limited RAM makes that thing kind.....useless :\ |
| 09:35.09 | Timelord | Indeed... but when will I ever find both the features *AND* the situation at the same time? |
| 09:35.40 | Timelord | It possible to do a ram hack of some kind? ^^ |
| 09:35.58 | CoreDump|home | I dunno, and I probably wouldn't try it =) SMD soldering is a bitch |
| 09:36.41 | CoreDump|home | Timelord: get a Tosa if you are into portrait or a SL-Cxx00, both are very nice machines |
| 09:37.00 | Timelord | I have less than no money. |
| 09:37.06 | CoreDump|home | same here =) |
| 09:39.20 | CoreDump|home | damn, gpe-bootsplash doesn't handle transparency |
| 09:39.40 | CoreDump|home | is there any other fullscreen SVG viewing app in OE? |
| 09:40.41 | hrw | Timelord: contact maslovsky - he make ram upgrades in c7x0 |
| 09:42.45 | NAbyss | CoreDump|home: vncviewer :) |
| 09:43.21 | CoreDump|home | NAbyss: heh |
| 09:50.02 | Timelord | ACK |
| 09:50.05 | Timelord | Those cock suckers. |
| 09:50.07 | Timelord | http://www.sharp-ssp.co.jp/products/kigyoumuke/zaurus/PocketPC2003/shiyou.html |
| 09:50.15 | Timelord | There is the goddamn ram. -_- |
| 09:51.22 | hrw | but it lack windowsmobile2005 |
| 09:53.13 | Timelord | Sharp mocks me. |
| 10:00.07 | hrw | cu |
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| 10:31.12 | CoreDump|home | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.32416.png =) |
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| 10:43.06 | alan|home | CoreDump|home: hey, that looks great ! |
| 10:44.23 | CoreDump|home | yeah ;) Now lets see how this looks during boot |
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| 10:51.29 | alan|home | you know what OZ would need ? some fresh graphical design... that would be great |
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| 10:52.12 | CoreDump|home | well, some good-looking GPE and Opie themes would be nice, yeah |
| 10:52.29 | alan|home | we should ask the guy who draw the background if he could draw a new icon set too |
| 10:52.45 | CoreDump|home | alan|home: a new icon set would be a *lot* of work |
| 10:52.46 | alan|home | he did such a great thing with the background ! |
| 10:53.03 | alan|home | CoreDump|home: i guess you are right... |
| 10:53.27 | alan|home | well, maybe using an existing one could be great too |
| 10:53.33 | CoreDump|home | indeed |
| 11:10.56 | alan|home | CoreDump|home: do you knopw if there is a how to to create a gpe theme ? |
| 11:11.09 | CoreDump|home | no sorry |
| 11:13.37 | alan|home | ok. i will try to find one |
| 11:13.39 | alan|home | thanks |
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| 11:40.48 | CoreDump|home | is there a way to check which tty we are on w/o using the "tty" app? |
| 11:47.27 | CoreDump|home | to answer my own question: readlink /proc/self/fd/0 |
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| 13:06.20 | Xromer | Hi all |
| 13:06.48 | Xromer | No more infos about the Openzaurus feed servers? |
| 13:22.37 | CoreDump|home | nope |
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| 14:57.02 | Interrobang | CoreDump|home: is that an actual zaurus running pocket pc, or another design with the same cosmetics? |
| 14:58.34 | CoreDump|home | No Z can run windows. And the bootsplash is from OZ, the icons from KDE. |
| 15:08.33 | Interrobang | oh oops, wrong person, i meant timelord |
| 15:12.56 | Interrobang | don't suppose there's any kind of pocket pc emulation solution is there? |
| 15:13.08 | Interrobang | no virtual machines or anything? |
| 15:39.47 | CoreDump|home | nope |
| 15:40.50 | Xromer | Coredump|home: i downloaded the all 3.5.4 feed but i miss some files |
| 15:41.19 | Xromer | CoreDump|home:Where can i download them? |
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| 15:41.25 | CoreDump|home | ? |
| 15:42.15 | Xromer | CoreDump|home: I miss libpcre and other libs that were in the ewi feed |
| 15:42.19 | danboid | What is the max size of SD card supported under Cacko 1.23b on a C3000 (with Tetsu kernel, iimad) |
| 15:42.43 | CoreDump|home | danboid: does this look like a cacko support channel? |
| 15:43.08 | CoreDump|home | Xromer: there were updates to the ewi feed which hentges.net didn't catch |
| 15:44.16 | danboid | coredump: jeez! chill out! just a simple, zaurus related question on a z related channel. If there was an active channel for cacko (#cacko is pdaxrom isn't it?) then I'd ask there instead |
| 15:44.24 | Xromer | CoreDump|home: So unitl the ewi will not be up it' s impossible to get that files |
| 15:44.52 | CoreDump|home | Xromer: correct. And after ewi is up again, recursive downloads from hentges.net will be blocked again. |
| 15:45.08 | Xromer | danboid: You know cako it' s not very active :-( |
| 15:45.42 | danboid | xromer: yes, buts its the only way i can use my z in a stable way right now |
| 15:46.01 | CoreDump|home | the chance of anyone here having in-depth knowledge of anything cacko or pdax is rather slim |
| 15:46.27 | CoreDump|home | because, well, its the OZ channel I guess |
| 15:46.49 | Xromer | CoreDump|home:But in Hentges there' s no 3.5.4 feed |
| 15:47.01 | danboid | coredump: you pretend that no-one on here has ever used the sharp or cacko kernel on c3x00 and surely someone has. Where other irc channel could I use? |
| 15:47.20 | danboid | which other |
| 15:47.21 | CoreDump|home | http://oz.hentges.net/mirror/ |
| 15:49.11 | CoreDump|home | danboid: There is nothing to pretend. OZ devs hang out here but no cacko or pdax dev. A correct answer to your question would require driver/kernel knowledge about cacko, nothing a typical user has. |
| 15:53.02 | Xromer | CoreDump|home: OK thx Core |
| 16:11.19 | KerwoodDerby | Is the ewi546 server waiting for an infusion of donated funds, or does its state have a more grave cause? |
| 16:13.35 | CoreDump|home | it has nothing to do w/ money AFAIK |
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| 17:13.36 | Xromer | CoreDump|home: Does ipkg.conf read ftp:// path feed? |
| 17:15.27 | CoreDump|home | I think so yes |
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| 18:13.13 | Interrobang | Xromer: you were the one using wget to dl every single package on henteges? |
| 18:15.16 | CoreDump|home | hehe if he was the only one we wouldn't have a problem, now would we? |
| 18:15.56 | Interrobang | i don't know, would we? |
| 18:16.41 | CoreDump|home | nope |
| 18:17.01 | Interrobang | aren't there modules for apache that regulate bytes transferred per ip? |
| 18:17.13 | CoreDump|home | it's only a problem when many many people what to d/l the bloody 840Mb worth of feed |
| 18:17.26 | Interrobang | are there that amny idiots out there? |
| 18:17.37 | Interrobang | *many |
| 18:17.49 | CoreDump|home | yep |
| 18:18.41 | CoreDump|home | I would bitch about 50G of traffic, but 150G/month peak is a little bit too much |
| 18:19.27 | Interrobang | why would some1 dl EVERY package!?! many of them are already installed on the images and most of the rest, ppl would never use. wtf possesses these ppl?!? |
| 18:21.01 | Interrobang | i think the OZ bootsplash should be coded to overlay little text messages each boot telling ppl common sense things |
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| 18:21.27 | Interrobang | yeah, a hint splash |
| 18:22.07 | Interrobang | not just things like "don't dl every single package" but stuff like the max size sd supported. where to find the forums, etc... |
| 18:28.03 | Xromer | Interoobang: Yes, just installing packages from my PC takes a lot of time, think if i have to install them from the OZ servers |
| 18:30.17 | Xromer | Interoobang: I use a lot of apps on my Zaurus |
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| 18:37.59 | Interrobang | Xromer: you don't use ALL the packages, just dl the ones you need |
| 18:39.12 | Interrobang | and do you plan on raping the server for updates to all those packages thereafter? |
| 18:39.36 | Interrobang | if you really want to get serious, get OE going on your comp |
| 18:54.07 | Xromer | Interrobang: You are right i agree with you, the server with the OEDB was down these days, now i' ve just all what i need |
| 18:54.58 | Xromer | Interrobang: To compile by myself too |
| 18:57.16 | Interrobang | oe dls from more than 1 site. some dl's will fail at their 1st choice about 6 or 7 times then continue using oesources.org |
| 19:51.24 | Xromer | Interrobang: It' s not only the ipks i have to download :-(, but sources bitbake etc. etc. |
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| 20:43.03 | poushag | anybody know the file and path where the owner info in gpe is saved? and the pim data? |
| 20:43.52 | thejapa | ~/.gpe |
| 20:49.21 | poushag | thanks |
| 20:54.58 | prh | hmm is the ewi site down? |
| 20:55.32 | thejapa | afaik, BOFH must reset the server. |
| 20:55.46 | prh | poo :0) |
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