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| 00:52.22 | poushag-Z | hi ppl - im using my z from the back porch |
| 00:54.13 | poushag-Z | but the multikey display is covring the text entry box |
| 00:54.26 | poushag-Z | under opie |
| 00:55.33 | poushag-Z | i guess the hardkeys are the only way to do this effectively |
| 00:56.02 | poushag-Z | but they make my thumbs sore |
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| 07:48.06 | hvontres|home | hrw|work: So how do the 3.5.4.1 feeds look? |
| 07:48.17 | hrw|work | ok |
| 07:48.45 | hrw|work | opie images need testing |
| 07:49.35 | hvontres|home | good to hear. when do you think they will be up on the mirror? I am doing some messing with 2.6 on poodle and would like to avoid building my own opie images for now. |
| 07:51.44 | hrw|work | basically I could push them into mirror even now |
| 07:53.28 | hvontres|home | hrw|work: np. Probably will take me the rest of the week to get my bootstrap stuff sorted... nothing like waiting hours for bitbake to choke again...:( |
| 07:56.35 | hvontres|home | at least I had a 4 day weekend...:) |
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| 10:35.32 | hrw|work | someone want to test 3.5.4.1 images? |
| 10:37.09 | KerwoodDerby | will they erase my /dev/hda3 partition? |
| 10:37.41 | hrw|work | no |
| 10:38.21 | KerwoodDerby | ok, then, I can at least test the things my time will allow |
| 10:38.30 | KerwoodDerby | on a terrier |
| 10:39.00 | hrw|work | http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/3.5.4.1-test/prefinal-20060704/ |
| 10:39.36 | KerwoodDerby | ok, off I go... |
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| 11:07.23 | KerwoodDerby | hrw|work: You may need to review your build -- the spitz images come up believing the unit is a c7x0. |
| 11:07.23 | KerwoodDerby | I get a c7x0 login, and lots of related complaints about hardware not being present, too. |
| 11:09.44 | KerwoodDerby | I've got no windowing system with this as it is, so I can't test any further... |
| 11:09.45 | hrw|work | ok - will then fix it |
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| 11:40.27 | hrw|work | KerwoodDerby: rebuilt images |
| 11:45.24 | lardman|work | hey |
| 11:47.52 | KerwoodDerby | ok |
| 11:50.19 | ixoth | hrw|work: will there be release of 3.5.4.1 for SL5600 with 2.4 kernel? |
| 11:54.52 | hrw|work | no |
| 11:56.03 | ixoth | because 3.5.4.1 should be 2.6 only? |
| 11:56.18 | hrw|work | because it is for clamshells only |
| 11:59.44 | KerwoodDerby | hrw|work: Looking good! I'm ready to test now! |
| 12:01.29 | hrw|work | KerwoodDerby: thx for info |
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| 12:56.45 | KerwoodDerby | hrw|work: This is what I've seen so far with just the Opie image: http://pastebin.ca/78692 |
| 12:56.45 | KerwoodDerby | hrw|work: odd about the sound, isn't it? |
| 12:58.01 | poushag | ixoth: hentges has 3.5.4.1 for collie (sl5500) maybe you could download the sources for that and tweak for 5600 |
| 13:01.05 | poushag | hrw, can we please get a newer version of busybox in OZ? |
| 13:02.13 | ixoth | poushag: I don't really need that image, I built it using OE, thanks :) I just wanted to recommend some tweaks for 2.4 based OE in org.oe.oz354x |
| 13:04.02 | poushag | ixoth, you could probably make a valuable contribution on #hentges.net - he is still releasing roms for older hardware |
| 13:04.50 | poushag | i.e. collie with 2.4.18 kernel |
| 13:23.23 | hrw|work | poushag: reason for newer busybox other then 'it is newer'? |
| 13:23.44 | lardman|work | poushag: You track down your issue with ipkg-link? |
| 13:23.49 | hrw|work | KerwoodDerby: volumeapplet removed because it does not support alsa yet |
| 13:24.50 | poushag | lardman, thanks for asking and yes i finally nailed it down |
| 13:25.15 | poushag | i also found other users with the same problem as far back as may of last year |
| 13:25.29 | poushag | drum roll please.... |
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| 13:25.55 | hrw|work | KerwoodDerby: please post that pastebin infos to oz-devel |
| 13:26.27 | poushag | apparently it would be helpful if ipkg.conf had a comment next to the list of destinations advising the user NOT to remove rootfs |
| 13:26.37 | hrw|work | poushag: patches welcome |
| 13:26.55 | poushag | because i was intending to install everything to sd i had only that one destination |
| 13:28.09 | poushag | and so when installing an app that needed libc6 it was reinstalled on SD and then when running iipkg-link on libc6 is just hosed itself with circular symlinks |
| 13:28.42 | poushag | hrw, i would be happy to write a comment for ipgk.conf - just not sure how to begin |
| 13:29.41 | poushag | hrw, re busybox - i have experienced some of the bugs in busybox that have been fixed between 1.0 and 1.2 - like #923 and #169 |
| 13:30.33 | hrw|work | so add coments about it |
| 13:30.38 | poushag | and the current release of busybox seems to be free of major bugs - http://bugs.busybox.net/view_all_bug_page.php (pick busybox project in upper right) |
| 13:31.44 | hrw|work | someone need to dig through OE patches, check which one can be removed, which need rewriting, contact patch authors, try to send them upstream etc |
| 13:32.25 | KerwoodDerby | hrw|work: sorry, is oz-devel a mailing list? |
| 13:32.58 | hrw|work | yes |
| 13:33.02 | hrw|work | ~oz-devel |
| 13:33.08 | poushag | patches for busybox? |
| 13:33.19 | hrw|work | poushag: OE has few |
| 13:34.11 | poushag | hrw, my workstation is mac-osx - so i am not yet able to compile any sources or even run cvs/svn to get them - asfaik my best option to run linux on here for a dev environment is with qemu |
| 13:34.43 | hrw|work | cannot help now |
| 13:42.26 | poushag | hrw, is busybox integrated into OZ as a kernel module, an ipk, or in the kernel itself? |
| 13:42.52 | hrw|work | in backlightapplet |
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| 13:52.25 | poushag | ird://freenode/qemu |
| 13:52.32 | poushag | oops |
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| 14:01.40 | lardman|work | poushag: From what you say, is that an issue with ipkg-link, or with ipkg reinstalling to a different location? |
| 14:02.32 | poushag | lardman, i think its an issue with improper config of ipjg.conf resulting in ipkg reinstalling to a different location |
| 14:02.46 | poushag | s/ipjg/ipkg |
| 14:03.17 | poushag | i was proposing adding a comment to ipkg.conf - since i cant do it myself |
| 14:03.54 | lardman|work | when ipkg reinstalls something (upgrades) I thought it was reinstalled to the same mount point... |
| 14:04.22 | lardman|work | ipkg is a difficult one really - it ought to check for free space too (though I seem to remember someone saying it did). Hmm |
| 14:05.23 | poushag | well i removed rootfs from ipkg.conf as i only thought this would alter location where new ipks would land - but it also tells system where to look for already installed ipks (apparently) |
| 14:07.34 | lardman|work | yes, of course (he says) |
| 14:07.43 | lardman|work | the order in the file changes the default afaicr |
| 14:07.51 | lardman|work | so put /media/card before /, etc |
| 14:08.48 | lardman|work | Does ipkg.conf come with dest /media.card, etc. as standard? |
| 14:09.06 | lardman|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:10.10 | poushag | well i have my sd parted so i added /media/card1 and removed all the other locs while i was there - but i have since added / back as second in list |
| 14:18.14 | lardman|work | I wonder if a little script to probe possible locations and write them to ipkg.conf would be worthwhile |
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| 14:45.06 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: what do you think about releasing 3.5.4.1 feeds? |
| 14:45.08 | CoreDump|home | hi all |
| 14:46.22 | CoreDump|home | hrw|work: ummm I dunno, if you are happen w/ them fire away. There's nothing that can't befixed w/ upgrades |
| 14:46.34 | KerwoodDerby | hrw|work: btw, I'm still waiting for my post to appear on the openzaurus-devel sourceforge's website |
| 14:47.32 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: I released prerelease images to test - can you look? |
| 14:47.43 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: what extra you are adding for spitz/akita? |
| 14:48.03 | CoreDump|home | hrw|work: I have nothing more to push. |
| 14:48.20 | CoreDump|home | hrw|work: we are still missing bootsplah for c7x0 and tosa :\ |
| 14:48.26 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: c7x0 pushed |
| 14:48.32 | CoreDump|home | hrw|work: yay! |
| 14:48.36 | hrw|work | 8h ago |
| 14:49.13 | ixoth | please oh please, push tslib from org.oe.dev to org.oe.oz354x (or at least, poodle part of it) |
| 14:49.15 | hrw|work | ;) |
| 14:49.27 | hrw|work | ixoth: that 2.4 config which coredump broke? |
| 14:49.45 | CoreDump|home | =D |
| 14:49.51 | CoreDump|home | forget 2.4 on poodle, really |
| 14:49.57 | ixoth | yep, poodle config doesn't work with 2.4 :) |
| 14:50.09 | hrw|work | I booted 2.4 on poodle |
| 14:50.17 | hrw|work | played 5 minutes and put it back to shelf |
| 14:50.25 | CoreDump|home | hehe no kiddinh |
| 14:50.33 | ixoth | I have nothing except poodle :) |
| 14:50.42 | CoreDump|home | the damn thing kept crashin on me while lying idle on my bloody desk |
| 14:50.46 | ixoth | and I want to use it as music player :) |
| 14:51.16 | CoreDump|home | hrw|work: did you rebuild the images from the feed? |
| 14:51.21 | ixoth | well, maybe it isn't rock stable, but it never crashed for me in 4 days |
| 14:51.58 | CoreDump|home | ixoth: fwiw, 3.5.4 + ipkg upgrade = 3.5.4.1 |
| 14:52.24 | lardman|work | Is the touchscreen working on .oz354x builds? |
| 14:52.32 | CoreDump|home | hrw|work: nm, found the images |
| 14:52.43 | CoreDump|home | lardman|work: not on poodle no *cough* |
| 14:52.48 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: from feeds |
| 14:53.03 | lardman|work | I'm still getting segfaults when I try to calibrate using .dev |
| 14:53.54 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: I have two builddirs - one for feed (collie), second for c7x0/akita/spitz and images. stuff from both builddirs goes into feeds |
| 14:54.25 | CoreDump|home | ahh |
| 14:54.50 | CoreDump|home | lardman|work: ts works just fine on .dev (at least "as expected") |
| 14:55.41 | ixoth | hey, just changing a single line in /etc/tslib.conf works |
| 14:55.44 | lardman|work | CoreDump|home: Hmm. Have you set tslib to 1.2.1 (assuming that's necessary at all)? |
| 14:55.45 | ixoth | (for me) |
| 14:56.07 | lardman|work | I had no tslib.conf |
| 14:56.10 | CoreDump|home | ixoth: correct, 2.4 and 2.6 diff is one line |
| 14:56.55 | CoreDump|home | lardman|work: .oz uses tslib-calibrate_0.0cvs20060102-r38_armv5te.ipk |
| 14:57.04 | ixoth | but the best way IMO to rm -rf org.openembedded.oz354x/packages/tslib; cp -r org.openembedded.dev/packages/tslib org.openembedded.oz354x/packages/ |
| 14:57.38 | ixoth | 'cause .bb from there handles poodle as well |
| 14:58.10 | CoreDump|home | ixoth: that may screw up dependencies since names were changed since .oz branched off, but otherwise, yes. But again, the diff between a 2.4 and 2.6 tslib for poodle is _one_ line |
| 14:59.35 | ixoth | oh, i see :) maybe put this somewhere in FAQ, i was confused for a first time after booting org.oe.oz354x image |
| 14:59.53 | ixoth | I was "tapping anywhere on the screen" for a minute :) |
| 15:01.27 | KerwoodDerby | hrw|work: OK, looks like USB flash drive "failure" was caused by refusal to deliver current requested by drive. Not OZ's fault. |
| 15:03.06 | CoreDump|home | ixoth: did you get my last line? had my daily disconnect |
| 15:03.47 | ixoth | last line about is about deps? then yes |
| 15:04.17 | CoreDump|home | <CoreDump|home> ixoth: yeah sorry for that. updating tslib in .oz is on my todo for some time now |
| 15:04.20 | hrw|work | KerwoodDerby: we limited usb power level on cxx00 machines |
| 15:04.39 | lardman|work | is cvs20060102-r38 built by default? |
| 15:04.48 | hrw|work | yes |
| 15:04.56 | KerwoodDerby | hrw|work: good. not everybody can hack the regulator inside =:O |
| 15:04.58 | lardman|work | If so, it doesn't work for gpe-image on a c7x0 (for some reason) |
| 15:05.16 | hrw|work | lardman|work: really? yesterday flashed c7x0 with gpe and it was working |
| 15:05.42 | ixoth | well, it's not a problem at all :) |
| 15:05.45 | lardman|work | hrw|work: Hmm, I've removed tmp now and will rebuild and see whether I've still got the problem |
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| 15:17.52 | ixoth | goodbye everyone |
| 15:25.19 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: I nearly have it fixed |
| 15:26.17 | KerwoodDerby | hrw|work: Do you have any suggestions for making sound work in the pre-final version? |
| 15:26.19 | CoreDump|home | hrw|work: nice! |
| 15:26.28 | CoreDump|home | KerwoodDerby: opie? |
| 15:26.35 | KerwoodDerby | yes |
| 15:26.37 | hrw|work | KerwoodDerby: try to modprobe snd-pcm-oss |
| 15:26.43 | hrw|work | os snd-oss-pcm (never remember) |
| 15:26.55 | CoreDump|home | KerwoodDerby: yet another age old opie bug :\ |
| 15:27.17 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: fixed |
| 15:27.27 | hrw|work | maybe not nicest way but fixed |
| 15:27.43 | CoreDump|home | nice =) |
| 15:29.03 | CoreDump|home | AARGH |
| 15:29.11 | CoreDump|home | screw this medium mount crap |
| 15:29.32 | CoreDump|home | muhahaha |
| 15:29.42 | CoreDump|home | Ctrl-Alt-Del works around it |
| 15:31.31 | CoreDump|home | or not *sigh* /me resets... |
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| 15:32.58 | hrw|work | now need to pull, commit, push |
| 15:33.27 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: poodle/ts-2.4.conf poodle/ts-2.6.conf - switch by ZKERNEL_VERSION |
| 15:33.40 | CoreDump|home | ~praise hrw |
| 15:33.41 | ibot | All hail hrw! |
| 15:34.33 | hrw|work | ~hail CoreDump|home |
| 15:34.34 | ibot | ACTION bows down to CoreDump|home and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 15:35.20 | CoreDump|home | hrw|work: both opie and GPE images work fine |
| 15:35.28 | hrw|work | no problems on opie start? |
| 15:35.40 | CoreDump|home | well the god damn medium mount bug |
| 15:35.52 | hrw|work | thats expected |
| 15:35.57 | CoreDump|home | yes |
| 15:36.00 | CoreDump|home | nothing else |
| 15:36.20 | hrw|work | pushed poodle fix |
| 15:36.53 | CoreDump|home | I didn't hear back from any of the new mirror guys after sending rsync logins :( |
| 15:37.02 | hrw|work | ;( |
| 15:37.17 | hrw|work | US got long weekend |
| 15:37.26 | CoreDump|home | right |
| 15:37.28 | hrw|work | 230 anniversary of US creation |
| 15:37.34 | hvontres|home | yay!! |
| 15:37.40 | CoreDump|home | independence day =) |
| 15:37.53 | CoreDump|home | but today is pretty damn special in germany, too |
| 15:38.09 | KerwoodDerby | heh |
| 15:38.55 | KerwoodDerby | hrw|work: it's odd that module snd-oss-pcm is showing as loaded but unused |
| 15:39.23 | hrw|work | normal |
| 15:39.55 | KerwoodDerby | hmmm... so why would media player be unable to find an input filter for .WAVs? |
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| 15:40.32 | hrw|work | input? |
| 15:40.58 | KerwoodDerby | hrw|work: That's its complaint |
| 15:41.56 | hrw|work | strange |
| 15:42.50 | hrw|work | time to go |
| 15:42.54 | KerwoodDerby | ok |
| 15:43.25 | CoreDump|home | cya hrw|work |
| 15:43.35 | poushag | lardman, i like your script idea for ipkg.conf |
| 15:43.41 | hvontres|home | l8ter hrw|work |
| 15:45.49 | hrw|gone | http://www.hrw.one.pl/2006/07/04/tosa-usb-experiences/ |
| 15:55.56 | hvontres|home | CoreDump|home: Well, now that I am using the correct conf/machine setup the poodle images are building again. Now I am trying to see if I can add the extra alsa depends and still get bootstrap to build |
| 15:57.01 | CoreDump|home | hvontres|home: just install a normal bootstrap and add the alsa stuff into it. Figure out what's needed and place it in the bootstrap bb |
| 15:58.27 | hvontres|home | CoreDump|home: Hmm. I just added some alsa stuff to the end of poodle-2.6.conf |
| 15:58.33 | lardman|work | poushag: Depends on what currently exists in /etc/ipkg.conf. It should probably be handled by ipkg directly, to avoid people installing stuff to non-existant mount points |
| 15:59.44 | poushag | yes i agree - and to make sure nobody removes rootfs from the list :P |
| 15:59.55 | lardman|work | ;) |
| 16:00.24 | poushag | bbiab |
| 16:00.50 | lardman|work | I'm more concerned about something I did long ago - I had an SD card which didn't mount, and I merrily installed stuff to it, but it then ends up on / in /mnt/card/ |
| 16:01.06 | lardman|work | I had to reflash my collie after it screwed up the packages db |
| 16:01.07 | lardman|work | pita |
| 16:02.59 | Tomoe | sup |
| 16:03.43 | hvontres|home | Grrrr... alsa-tools fails to install : http://rafb.net/paste/results/mBrITS74.html |
| 16:05.31 | CoreDump|home | hvontres|home: that's not the error but the result of it ;) |
| 16:06.20 | hvontres|home | CoreDump|home: So where did it go wrong? |
| 16:06.35 | CoreDump|home | well, what does the logfile say` |
| 16:06.35 | hvontres|home | ~lart build errors |
| 16:08.01 | hvontres|home | CoreDump|home: well the log.do_install isn't any more help :( |
| 16:08.37 | CoreDump|home | /home/henry/oe/oz3541.build/tmp/work/alsa-tools-1.0.10-r0/temp/log.do_install.23475 |
| 16:09.15 | hvontres|home | CoreDump|home: same message as in pastebin.... |
| 16:16.19 | CoreDump|home | heh |
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| 16:32.11 | hvontres|home | CoreDump|home: well, the other stuff is working so far.... time to flash... |
| 16:39.17 | hvontres|home | CoreDump|home: Do you know where the kernel version gets checked during boot? that 1 minute delay is kinda annoying. |
| 16:40.49 | lardman|work | script in /etc/init.d |
| 16:41.04 | lardman|work | boot-something? |
| 16:41.22 | lardman|work | can't remember, but the name will give it away |
| 16:42.17 | hvontres|home | lardman|work: thanks |
| 16:44.54 | Tomoe | hy guys |
| 16:45.12 | Tomoe | damn the c3200 just doesnt want to go below 50k yen lol |
| 16:45.23 | CoreDump|home | /etc/init.d/checkversion |
| 16:45.34 | CoreDump|home | you can Ctrl-C out of the message |
| 16:47.11 | hvontres|home | hmmm, now its stuck on the bootsplash... |
| 16:47.53 | CoreDump|home | Fn-LeftArrow |
| 16:48.17 | hvontres|home | cool...:) |
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| 16:50.31 | lardman|work | buy chaps |
| 16:50.36 | lardman|work | bye even |
| 16:50.38 | lardman|work | :D |
| 16:50.44 | KerwoodDerby | toodles |
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| 17:24.49 | Hrw|husky | hi from tosa |
| 17:25.07 | KerwoodDerby | spiffy |
| 17:25.21 | hvontres|home | hi Hrw|Husky :) |
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| 18:55.57 | KerwoodDerby | gotta go |
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| 20:01.30 | hrw-tosa | hi |
| 20:19.24 | hrw-tosa | heh.. when i read posts from collie users i more and more think about moving to root-on-sd |
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