| 00:00.51 | zedkatuf|desktop | nice |
| 00:01.05 | thejapa | h2200 got a different bootloader than the regular bootloader/bootblaster other ipaqs uses, so I'm not sure other ipaqs can do such tricks. |
| 00:01.14 | Flikker | I think I screwed something up... I was running 3.5.4.1-rc4 on my c3100, tried to flash it to 3.5.4.1 release and now I'm stuck in the altboot menu... (no opie) |
| 00:02.40 | zedkatuf|desktop | md5sums ok? |
| 00:03.51 | Flikker | yeah... I'm going to redownload... reflash... etc... but I did it exactly the same way I did the 3.5.4.1-rc4 (without the fdisk since I wasn't running OZ before) |
| 00:03.54 | zedkatuf|desktop | ...gonna leave the 3200 upgrading whilst I (try to!!) sleep |
| 00:04.12 | zedkatuf|desktop | did u give nuff space for / ? |
| 00:04.28 | zedkatuf|desktop | aaah..yes... |
| 00:04.28 | Flikker | yeah... no errors during install |
| 00:04.41 | zedkatuf|desktop | u must've done to have got rc4 installed |
| 00:06.34 | zedkatuf|desktop | same CF card? |
| 00:07.10 | Flikker | yup |
| 00:07.35 | zedkatuf|desktop | General Q to all: I get a kernel mismatch on bootup after ipkg upgrade.....any easy way to avoid this (pls don't say "reflash"!) |
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| 02:27.51 | Zectbumo | what is the difference between gpe and opie? |
| 02:34.24 | poushag | zectbumo, i have tried both recently - gpe seems to be getting more development right now, but the ui for opie seems to require less clicks to navigate and is a bit more similar to regular guis |
| 02:34.50 | poushag | also depends on what apps you consider most important |
| 02:34.57 | poushag | brb |
| 02:35.12 | Zectbumo | poushag, have you tried installing 3.5.4.1 yet? |
| 02:36.55 | poushag | im on it already - hentges rom for collie |
| 02:37.28 | poushag | with opie-cardfs + the other apps i added |
| 02:37.42 | poushag | which Z do you have? |
| 02:37.53 | Zectbumo | I tried installing it with no success |
| 02:38.28 | poushag | i gotta go for a bit - back in about 10 min |
| 02:38.30 | Zectbumo | I copied the files to my SD card and did the OK boot, then upgrade, the it restarted, and nothing happened. still in japanese |
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| 03:22.47 | poushag | zectbumo, sry that wasnt 10 min |
| 03:23.17 | poushag | but kids and wife come first |
| 03:25.27 | poushag | i think i see whats wrong - you have to copy the Zimage and initrd.bin to a CF card - SD cards dont work for flashing |
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| 05:44.36 | Zectbumo | poushag: ok, I will purchase a CF memory card |
| 05:45.29 | poushag | where are you btw? |
| 05:45.46 | Zectbumo | california |
| 05:46.04 | poushag | i got a 1GB CF 2 weeks ago for $50 |
| 05:46.21 | Zectbumo | you know what, that makes sense, because after it reboots it looks for /mnt/card/$SHELL something |
| 05:46.45 | poushag | which Z do you have? |
| 05:46.50 | Zectbumo | c3200 |
| 05:47.05 | poushag | ok i guess you dont really even need the SD |
| 05:47.22 | Zectbumo | I have a 1GB SD |
| 05:47.27 | poushag | you should be able to install all apps internally |
| 05:47.50 | poushag | SD is good for storing backups though with a wifi card if the cf slot |
| 05:48.19 | poushag | i have my backups on a fat partition so i could restore tham to another Z if necessary |
| 05:48.27 | poushag | s/tham/them |
| 05:48.39 | Zectbumo | well, I'm also finding that I don't know how to install packages from the command line. most documentation says to use ipkg mypackage.ipk but I don't have ipkg command |
| 05:49.11 | poushag | well you wont have that until you finish flashiing OZ onto it |
| 05:49.24 | Zectbumo | ah |
| 05:49.45 | Zectbumo | ipkg is an openzaurus thing? |
| 05:49.59 | Zectbumo | right now I have japanaese qtopia |
| 05:51.11 | poushag | not sure - but the OZ apps are compiled for the OZ ROMs - so even if you had ipkg on current ROM youd still have to flash the OZ ROM instead |
| 05:51.46 | poushag | what kind of tasks will you do with the Z? |
| 05:53.02 | Zectbumo | poushag, I would like to have mp3/ogg player, video player, wifi browser, python, ssh |
| 05:53.26 | poushag | OZ has ssh running by default |
| 05:54.29 | poushag | as for the rest, im not sure which gui is more suitable but try gpe for a while and then try opie would be my suggestion |
| 05:55.06 | poushag | or try opie first then gpe - doesnt really matter in which order |
| 05:55.11 | Zectbumo | ok :) |
| 05:55.58 | Zectbumo | getting anything installed is my first step |
| 05:56.06 | poushag | if it were me, id make a backup of the first one i tried to the sd and then start over with the next one (keeping it all internal) |
| 05:56.22 | Zectbumo | oh, is it possible to install from the harddrive? I can take the harddrive out and put it in my card reader |
| 05:57.16 | poushag | you should try that - i dont know the answer but i wouldnt be surprised if it works |
| 05:58.30 | Zectbumo | ok, I would have to get familiar with how the installer works |
| 05:59.27 | poushag | it can tbe that complex - just try it - put the zimage and initrd.bin on the root of the drive |
| 05:59.46 | poushag | s/can t/cant / |
| 06:00.01 | Zectbumo | poushag, one more question I have is why do they use a microdrive instead of CF? |
| 06:00.42 | poushag | i dont really know - cf is more robust (i.e. survives being dropped and has no moving parts to wear out) |
| 06:01.00 | poushag | i think you could replace it with cf if you like |
| 06:01.03 | Zectbumo | poushag, well I think I would have to change something in the install script because the first thing it does is fail running /mnt/card/$SOMESHELL |
| 06:01.48 | Zectbumo | poushag, so if I bouth a 4GB CF card I could get away with replacing the microdrive? might save batteries too? |
| 06:01.57 | poushag | check back here tomorrow - zedkatuf aka audela just got a 3200 - he would know for sure |
| 06:02.05 | Zectbumo | s/bouth/bought/ |
| 06:02.36 | poushag | i believe so but again i will defer to zed, who seems to visit here every day |
| 06:02.37 | Zectbumo | poushag, where are you from? |
| 06:02.47 | poushag | eastern us |
| 06:03.04 | Zectbumo | ah |
| 06:03.10 | poushag | thats why im going to bed now - its late :P |
| 06:03.12 | Zectbumo | what model do you run? |
| 06:03.25 | poushag | oooold sl-5500 (aka collie) |
| 06:03.48 | Zectbumo | hay, I have one of those (black case, b/w screen?) |
| 06:04.00 | poushag | but i like it - small size and does what i need |
| 06:04.34 | poushag | no its a color screen in a silver case |
| 06:04.53 | Zectbumo | oh, then I have an even old old older one |
| 06:05.12 | poushag | http://www.ottaky.com/zaurus.php?22-DEC-2003 |
| 06:06.35 | Zectbumo | yeah, I was thinking of a zaurus ZR-5800 |
| 06:07.18 | Zectbumo | I have that one, but I forget where I put it last. well don't let me keep you up any longer, you have been very helpfull. thank you. |
| 06:07.24 | poushag | if thats a Z i never heard of it - where you get it? |
| 06:08.11 | poushag | youre welcome - good night |
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| 06:10.16 | Zectbumo | http://search.ebay.com/zr-5800_W0QQbsZSearchQQcatrefZC6QQcoactionZcompareQQcoentrypageZsearchQQcopagenumZ1QQfromZR10QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQftrtZ1QQftrvZ1QQpqryZzr5800QQsacatZQ2d1QQsaprchiZQQsaprcloZQQsatitleZQ22zrQ205800Q22QQsofocusZbs |
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| 07:16.30 | Zectbumo | what does /mnt/card/$UPDATE_SHELL not found mean? |
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| 07:34.03 | Tomoe | morning guys |
| 07:35.41 | Zectbumo | morning |
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| 07:54.06 | *** topic/#openzaurus by obergix[work] -> OpenZaurus user discussion/support channel | developer discussion in #oe | http://www.openzaurus.org/ | Don't ask to ask, just ask. | Current release: 3.5.4.1 | Report OZ bugs at http://bugs.openembedded.org/ |
| 07:54.06 | *** topic/#openzaurus by ChanServ -> OpenZaurus user discussion/support channel | developer discussion in #oe | http://www.openzaurus.org/ | Don't ask to ask, just ask. | Current release: 3.5.4 | Report OZ bugs at http://bugs.openembedded.org/ |
| 07:54.31 | obergix[work] | congrats for 3.5.4.1 |
| 07:54.44 | obergix[work] | and my first bug-report to come soon |
| 07:54.46 | obergix[work] | :( |
| 07:54.57 | Zectbumo | obergix, what did you find? |
| 07:55.53 | obergix[work] | Zectbumo: X crash when issueing root terminal in GPE :( |
| 08:01.54 | hrw|work | morning |
| 08:02.12 | Zectbumo | hrw, you are back, morning |
| 08:02.19 | *** topic/#openzaurus by hrw|work -> OpenZaurus user discussion/support channel | developer discussion in #oe | http://www.openzaurus.org/ | Don't ask to ask, just ask. | Current release: 3.5.4/3.5.4.1 | Report OZ bugs at http://bugs.openembedded.org/ |
| 08:02.33 | obergix[work] | hi hrw|work |
| 08:02.55 | hrw|work | obergix[work]: worked for me |
| 08:03.04 | obergix[work] | http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1146 ... hehe ... any 3.5.4.1 version to add to bugzilla ? |
| 08:03.14 | obergix[work] | hrw|work: try with french locale maybe ? |
| 08:03.16 | hrw|work | 3.5.4.x is also 3.5.4.1 |
| 08:03.26 | obergix[work] | hrw|work: ok |
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| 08:21.44 | LordVan | hi |
| 08:22.18 | LordVan | got a question: as 3.5.4.1 doesn't support collie devices should i stick to 3.5.4 (or will there be some new collie release soon?) |
| 08:22.38 | hrw|work | stick |
| 08:22.49 | LordVan | ok |
| 08:23.02 | LordVan | well actually i just dl it and haven't installed it yet but still ;) |
| 08:29.00 | LordVan | but ain't got enough cash atm ;'( |
| 08:29.41 | hrw|work | I want tto get c3x00.. |
| 08:30.03 | Tomoe | me2 |
| 08:51.06 | LordVan | thoug there are problems with getting the cash for it ;) |
| 08:51.09 | LordVan | bbl |
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| 09:10.25 | zedkatuf|desktop | hrw|work: I did an ipkg upgrade last night on my 3200 using the 3.5.4.1 feed (I've been using CoreDump's 3.4.5.1-rc4 rom) & it all went well, except on booting there's now a kernel mismatch error, but after a minute it carries on booting.....is there a way to upgrade the kernel to 3.5.4.1 without reflashing.....or maybe I can just reflash the zImage & it will leave the filesystem in place (haha!!) :) |
| 09:11.01 | hrw|work | reflash only zImage.bin |
| 09:11.38 | zedkatuf|desktop | so leave out hd1thingy.tgz but have gnu-tar & update.sh still? |
| 09:11.49 | hrw|work | updater.sh + zImage.bin |
| 09:12.15 | zedkatuf|desktop | have you experience with that working :) ? (and not borking your existing / ) |
| 09:12.44 | XorA | zedkatuf|desktop: thats how we upgrade |
| 09:12.50 | XorA | zedkatuf|desktop: all the time |
| 09:13.15 | zedkatuf|desktop | ok, and contents of / is usually fine ? |
| 09:13.46 | XorA | zedkatuf|desktop: flashing zImage.bin doesnt touch / |
| 09:14.07 | XorA | zedkatuf|desktop: they are stored in different partitions and on your device different devices |
| 09:14.15 | zedkatuf|desktop | ok, tnx |
| 09:14.38 | XorA | zedkatuf|desktop: but make double sure updater.sh + zImage.bin are the only things on CF card |
| 09:14.45 | zedkatuf|desktop | also, I get an error message abt /etc/altboot.something not being there |
| 09:14.54 | zedkatuf|desktop | ok, tnx |
| 09:15.04 | zedkatuf|desktop | (so alboot doesn't run atm) |
| 09:15.10 | zedkatuf|desktop | (not that I use it ) |
| 09:24.38 | zedkatuf|desktop | HI, I can't see the zImage.bin here: |
| 09:24.41 | zedkatuf|desktop | http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/mirror/www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.4.1/images/spitz/ |
| 09:26.17 | magnet | hi. |
| 09:26.38 | zedkatuf|desktop | morning |
| 09:26.56 | hrw|work | zedkatuf|desktop: 1. fetch bootstrap install kit or 2. use last column link |
| 09:27.51 | magnet | there are troubles with glibc in 3.5.4.1 ? sounds like I can t compile anything. |
| 09:27.52 | zedkatuf|desktop | ta...just spotted zImage in bootstrap dir |
| 09:32.47 | hrw|work | magnet: even helloworld.c? |
| 09:33.07 | magnet | yea, I just found some post in the forum, that ask to modify libc.so . |
| 09:34.29 | magnet | ok it's fixed. |
| 09:34.44 | magnet | the answer was in this post : http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=18036 |
| 09:40.32 | zedkatuf|desktop | re zimage.bin update - THAT WAS QUICK! |
| 09:40.58 | zedkatuf|desktop | I guess there's not so much to do compared to extracing a tgz file |
| 09:41.43 | zedkatuf|desktop | kernel mismatch error disappeared now |
| 09:42.34 | Varoudis | hello |
| 09:42.46 | zedkatuf|desktop | tnx for help XorA & hrw|work |
| 09:43.06 | Varoudis | do you know how to make wifi config to start auto on insert? |
| 09:43.29 | Varoudis | it doesnt work from the applet |
| 09:44.19 | zedkatuf|desktop | morning Varoudis: works from applet for me...not sure why it's not 4u...sorry :( |
| 09:45.42 | magnet | Varoudis: did you edit /etc/networks/interfaces ? |
| 09:46.07 | Varoudis | from the GUI only :) |
| 09:46.43 | magnet | that only step I had to do to get network working, with hotplug. |
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| 09:50.30 | Varoudis | hrw|work, I finally did it :) I use OZ now.. |
| 09:53.44 | hrw|work | Varoudis: gratz |
| 09:55.05 | Varoudis | no aterm :( |
| 09:55.35 | hrw|work | rxvt is not enough? |
| 09:56.27 | Varoudis | ok a Q.. I use ipkg search PACK* to find smthng ? |
| 09:56.49 | hrw|work | ipkg list something* |
| 09:59.01 | Varoudis | can I do ipkg install pack1 pack2 etc? |
| 09:59.39 | hrw|work | yes |
| 10:01.13 | Varoudis | btw looks cool |
| 10:01.39 | Varoudis | where can I switch themes or colors? |
| 10:01.53 | hrw|work | settings/look and feel? |
| 10:02.01 | Varoudis | yeap |
| 10:02.09 | Varoudis | its to light |
| 10:02.14 | Varoudis | white etc |
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| 10:07.11 | Varoudis | ipkg works like apt-get in a way? if i do ipkg install on a pack that is in the base install its tells me so? |
| 10:07.47 | hrw|work | ipkg is dpkg & apt-get |
| 10:07.58 | hrw|work | Varoudis: it will |
| 10:09.19 | Varoudis | how to I install all abiword-plugin at a time? ( abiword-plugin-* doesnt do it |
| 10:09.59 | Varoudis | s/to/do |
| 10:10.04 | hrw|work | o.. I was expecting it to work |
| 10:10.40 | Varoudis | hmm Im getting arror |
| 10:10.43 | Varoudis | error |
| 10:10.53 | XorA | Varoudis: you problably dont actually want to do that |
| 10:11.13 | Varoudis | XorA, why? |
| 10:11.13 | XorA | Varoudis: not all the plugins are tested, in fact only OpenDoc and Google plugins are |
| 10:11.26 | Varoudis | lol :) ok |
| 10:11.30 | Varoudis | thnx |
| 10:11.48 | XorA | Varoudis: feel free to test them :-) but non working ones might make abiword fail to load |
| 10:13.52 | Varoudis | fluxbox-gpe uses the flux menu and style on GPE?or replace gpe? |
| 10:14.13 | XorA | Varoudis: uses fluxbox as window manager instead of matchbox |
| 10:15.06 | _law_ | XorA, have you installed fluxbox? on you .dev image? |
| 10:15.19 | XorA | _law_: yes, I am using it now, I like it |
| 10:15.57 | _law_ | XorA, i have got a problem with the panel, there is always a window-decoration around :-( |
| 10:17.17 | _law_ | btw. i currently work on gpe-login (add a function to switch windowmanager) |
| 10:17.34 | Varoudis | if I have inserted the sd, it uses up power?or only on read/write? |
| 10:18.07 | _law_ | so you can switch between fluxbox and matchbox on system-login... |
| 10:19.32 | XorA | _law_: not here |
| 10:20.46 | _law_ | XorA, hmm strange are you useing latest .dev ? |
| 10:20.55 | XorA | _law_: yes, very latest |
| 10:21.59 | _law_ | XorA, me too |
| 10:22.01 | thejapa | just to dream a bit... what is top of line for zaurii these days? any zaurii I can put openzaurus in it? |
| 10:23.04 | hrw|work | sl-c3x00 |
| 10:23.14 | _law_ | XorA, also see now window-title on rxvt, but with abiword or gpe-calendar i see "Untiteld" |
| 10:23.51 | thejapa | my brother in law lives in japan. he's a zero in computer gadgets, but maybe i can convince him to help me... :) |
| 10:24.21 | _law_ | ohh... XorA you habe installed Xlibs (full) or? |
| 10:24.29 | Varoudis | which file has the gcc headers? |
| 10:25.48 | XorA | _law_: abiword is blank here |
| 10:26.00 | XorA | _law_: I think I have diet |
| 10:26.26 | pgas | Varoudis: libc6-dev |
| 10:26.52 | Varoudis | thnx pgas :) |
| 10:26.59 | _law_ | XorA, is gpe-contacts or gpe-calendar also blank? |
| 10:27.03 | Varoudis | ti kanis ola kala pgas ? |
| 10:27.04 | XorA | _law_: ah infact was hidden says Unnamed |
| 10:27.40 | Varoudis | grr do i need something extra to install perl? |
| 10:27.43 | pgas | Varoudis: kala..ligo mpleximata me trapezes kai spiti alla kala.. |
| 10:27.56 | Varoudis | ox.. kako oi trapezes |
| 10:28.25 | XorA | _law_: gpe-calendar says Unnamed as well |
| 10:29.14 | _law_ | XorA, if you start gpe-calendar (or any other gtk app) to you also get some UTF-8 errors? |
| 10:29.27 | _law_ | like (gpe-login:6282): Gdk-WARNING **: Error converting from UTF-8 to STRING: Conversion from character set 'UTF-8' to 'ISO-8859-1' is not supported |
| 10:29.42 | Varoudis | pgas, to perl giati den doulevi sto ipkg? |
| 10:30.13 | hrw|work | Varoudis,pgas: this is not #cacko - english speaking |
| 10:30.28 | Varoudis | hrw|work, sorry :) |
| 10:31.36 | XorA | _law_: yes, Ive always had that |
| 10:31.50 | Varoudis | hrw|work, i cant me perl install from ipkg! |
| 10:31.58 | pgas | ehe #kako here, Varoudis what is not working with perl? maybe your script only more modules that are not installed? |
| 10:31.59 | Varoudis | s/me/make |
| 10:32.14 | pgas | is the perl feed in your list of feeed? |
| 10:32.25 | Varoudis | I did update |
| 10:32.44 | _law_ | XorA, since i get this error gpe-screenshot doesnt work anymore :-( |
| 10:33.04 | hrw|work | Varoudis: "ipkg install perl" not work? |
| 10:33.08 | hrw|work | pastebin errors |
| 10:33.47 | XorA | _law_: you get a requester saying CREATOR blah blah blah |
| 10:35.14 | Varoudis | nothing to do/an error ocurred, return value 4./cant find paclage perl |
| 10:35.48 | _law_ | XorA, right |
| 10:36.36 | pgas | Varoudis: IIRC perl is in its own feed are you sure to have it in your list of feeds? |
| 10:36.43 | XorA | _law_: same here then |
| 10:36.51 | XorA | _law_: is it anything to do with that email on oe@ |
| 10:36.58 | Varoudis | pgas, tell me the file to check |
| 10:37.32 | hrw|work | Varoudis: you need to add perl feed |
| 10:37.35 | pgas | ipkg.conf |
| 10:37.37 | _law_ | XorA, could you post a link od the subject of the mail |
| 10:37.58 | hrw|work | Varoudis: cd /etc/ipkg/;cp base-feed.conf perl-feed.conf and edit it: s/base/perl |
| 10:38.14 | XorA | _law_: it isnt in my mailbox anymore :-( |
| 10:38.26 | hrw|work | Varoudis: looks like I forgot to add perl/python feeds |
| 10:39.36 | Varoudis | :) |
| 10:39.37 | Varoudis | thnx |
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| 10:54.11 | hrw|work | ~lart zedkatuf|desktop for using /away with message |
| 11:08.00 | Varoudis | hrw|work, it tries to use wifi driver for the bluetooth card?!?! |
| 11:10.21 | hrw|work | really? |
| 11:11.35 | Varoudis | if I remove the wifi and put a BT... yes really |
| 11:11.48 | Varoudis | if I put the wifi again..it doesnt work |
| 11:12.16 | Varoudis | it needs 2 cycles of insert/eject |
| 11:20.55 | Varoudis | billionton bluetooth anyone? |
| 11:29.29 | Varoudis | hrw|work, how do I resize the window and move it? I need it bigger than 640x480 |
| 11:30.40 | hrw|work | Varoudis: I'm opie user rather then gpe |
| 11:30.49 | Varoudis | :) |
| 11:31.19 | XorA | Varoudis: I do |
| 11:31.28 | XorA | Varoudis: cant resize in mathcbox-wm |
| 11:31.42 | XorA | Varoudis: if there is a package for it try fluxbox-gpe |
| 11:32.01 | Varoudis | ok, will I lose icons? |
| 11:32.04 | hrw|work | no |
| 11:32.34 | Varoudis | ok because thunderbird without resize is nothing :) |
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| 11:32.53 | XorA | you got thunderbird to run, bloody hell |
| 11:33.19 | Varoudis | will I get the fluxbox bar?and replace the default one? |
| 11:33.36 | XorA | Varoudis: fluxbox bar at top, gpe-panel at bottem |
| 11:34.05 | Varoudis | =smaller screen :( |
| 11:34.29 | hrw|work | Varoudis: "ipkg remove -recursive matchbox-panel" then ;) |
| 11:34.33 | XorA | Varoudis: autohide gpe-panel |
| 11:34.55 | Varoudis | autohide from where? |
| 11:35.02 | XorA | click on panel, hit hide |
| 11:35.08 | hrw|work | XorA: it occupy space even hidden ;( |
| 11:35.55 | Varoudis | nice... less space :) |
| 11:36.19 | XorA | hrw|work: and moves to the top, new buggy as hell mode :-( |
| 11:38.49 | Varoudis | restart after flux install? |
| 11:39.06 | hrw|work | relogin into gpe |
| 11:39.23 | Varoudis | .. make it simplier!! |
| 11:39.33 | XorA | crappit, I accidently killed /etc/pointercal |
| 11:39.33 | Varoudis | dohh ok |
| 11:39.37 | Varoudis | I found it :P |
| 11:40.36 | Varoudis | Im not used to linux with GUI :) my head is in pdaxrom |
| 11:40.53 | Varoudis | lol s/linux/login |
| 11:42.15 | hrw|work | Varoudis: I have one question to you |
| 11:42.36 | XorA | what package is the non x tscal in? |
| 11:42.42 | hrw|work | Varoudis: can you later write something like 'how to switch into OZ from pdaX and what you will lose, what gain'? |
| 11:42.49 | hrw|work | XorA: tslib-utils iirc |
| 11:43.08 | hrw|work | XorA: yesterday someone on #gpe was talking about patch for xtscal |
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| 11:43.42 | hrw|work | 06 16:54 < pH5> florian_kc: what happened to the xtscal/fontconfig strlen segfault? |
| 11:43.45 | hrw|work | 06 16:55 < florian_kc> pH5: i didn't manage to work on this so far... but now that Guadec and other projects are over i have a little bit more time. |
| 11:43.49 | hrw|work | 06 16:58 < pH5> florian_kc: I use this workaround: http://en.pastebin.ca/80547 |
| 11:43.52 | hrw|work | 06 16:59 < florian_kc> pH5: hmm... what about adding this patch in oe? |
| 11:43.55 | hrw|work | 06 17:03 < pH5> Not sure, I think it's just hiding the real problem. I'd like to ask upstream, but for that a real backtrace of the segfault would be nice. |
| 11:44.04 | Varoudis | XorA, who to switch desktops in flux ? |
| 11:44.10 | Varoudis | from heyb |
| 11:44.14 | Varoudis | keyb |
| 11:45.23 | YoG|away | hi, I have 3.5.4, can I upgrade to 3.5.4.1 without reflashing my Z (c860)? |
| 11:48.05 | XorA | Varoudis: no idea |
| 11:48.49 | XorA | hrw|work: cool |
| 11:48.55 | Varoudis | anyone with a working bluetooth card? |
| 11:49.45 | Varoudis | what dev to use for fdisk a CD card? |
| 11:49.47 | Varoudis | SD |
| 11:49.51 | Varoudis | 4gb |
| 11:51.27 | magnet | I |
| 11:51.54 | magnet | I use /dev/mmcblk0 |
| 11:58.26 | magnet | in oe, how is called the X package currently use by oz ? diet-x11 ? |
| 12:09.23 | hrw|work | YoG: better reflash |
| 12:32.54 | hrw|work | zedkatuf|desktop: can you avoid broadcasting away/back? |
| 12:33.12 | hrw|work | zedkatuf|desktop: nick change is more friendly - I'm on too many channels |
| 12:33.22 | zedkatuf|desktop | sorry...will use /help to figure out how to do it.... |
| 12:33.39 | hrw|work | 07 14:33 -!- Irssi: #opie #openzaurus #cacko #gpe : zedkatuf|desktop (82-32-57-69.cable.ubr08.azte.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 12:34.53 | zedkatuf|desktop | is this away/I'm back thing just intensely annoying & totally unnecessary? |
| 12:36.20 | thejapa | hmm... curious. are mine silent or broadcasted? never thought about it too. |
| 12:36.37 | hrw|work | zedkatuf|desktop: just annoying |
| 12:39.05 | XorA | oh greate ts_calibrate fails as well :-( |
| 12:39.25 | magnet | which package should provide cc1plus ? I installed gcc, but I cannot compile C++ stuff. |
| 12:40.34 | hrw|work | g++ |
| 12:41.31 | magnet | infortunatly I got no packages with such name :\ |
| 12:42.31 | hrw|work | ops.. will have to rebuild gcc then |
| 12:42.54 | magnet | hehe, may I help ? |
| 12:43.04 | hrw|work | you can get g++ from 3.5.4 |
| 12:43.29 | magnet | oh great. |
| 12:43.33 | magnet | thanks. |
| 12:49.05 | magnet | hrw|work: this works fine.synergy will be mine :) |
| 12:59.27 | pgas | Zed's dead baby Zed's dead |
| 13:00.31 | hrw|work | magnet: g++ added into base. thx for noticing |
| 13:00.53 | magnet | np. |
| 13:03.01 | hrw|work | Varoudis: working or not? |
| 13:03.07 | Varoudis | lol |
| 13:03.22 | hrw|work | I have BT card which does not work in any Z now.. |
| 13:04.00 | Varoudis | I need to get billionton working :) |
| 13:05.51 | XorA | I have billionton working |
| 13:06.05 | Varoudis | ??? |
| 13:06.11 | Varoudis | bluetooth? |
| 13:06.14 | XorA | yes |
| 13:06.21 | Varoudis | how? |
| 13:06.30 | Varoudis | any help? |
| 13:07.29 | XorA | have to issue a set serial, then a correct hciattach command |
| 13:07.40 | XorA | but my Z is doen at moment so I cant get at my script |
| 13:07.46 | Varoudis | ihave edit bluetooth.conf to bind "serial_cs" class "bluetooth" |
| 13:09.58 | XorA | didnt have to do that |
| 13:10.32 | Varoudis | you use bt950 module? |
| 13:10.50 | Varoudis | hrw|work, said thet it is 2.4 based module |
| 13:10.52 | XorA | my billionton is detected by serial automatically |
| 13:11.09 | XorA | maybe my config is different from oz3541 |
| 13:11.15 | hrw|work | Varoudis: our 2.6 has a patch which add bt950 stuff into serial_cs |
| 13:11.40 | Varoudis | hrw|work, so I should use serial? |
| 13:11.44 | hrw|work | iirc |
| 13:11.48 | Varoudis | ok |
| 13:12.08 | Varoudis | XorA, if you find the script plz tell me |
| 13:12.35 | XorA | Varoudis: if I ever get a working image on the Z I shall |
| 13:19.48 | magnet | hrw|work: libstdc++6-dev seems missing too. I saw in was in 3.5.4 . |
| 13:21.14 | hrw|work | magnet: ipkg update |
| 13:21.39 | magnet | ok. |
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| 13:41.50 | Varoudis | which is the best FS for a SD card? |
| 13:49.21 | XorA | SDFS :-) |
| 13:51.07 | hrw|work | and CFFS for cf card |
| 13:51.42 | XorA | can anyone tell its friday afternoon :-) |
| 13:54.59 | Varoudis | sdfs? |
| 13:55.43 | XorA | Varoudis: there is no such thing, see friday afternoon comment |
| 13:55.50 | Varoudis | lol |
| 13:55.59 | Varoudis | I thought so :) |
| 13:56.21 | XorA | Slow Disk Filing System |
| 13:56.30 | XorA | Crappy Flash Filing System :-D |
| 13:57.48 | Varoudis | should I have to run a module by hand to use usb-client with linux? |
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| 14:03.36 | hrw|work | Varoudis: yes |
| 14:05.14 | Varoudis | what should i do? |
| 14:05.37 | XorA | setserial /dev/ttyS3 baud_base 921600 |
| 14:05.42 | XorA | hciattach -s 921600 /dev/ttyS3 bcsp |
| 14:05.46 | XorA | for billionton card |
| 14:06.34 | Varoudis | bluetooth.conf XorA ? |
| 14:06.41 | Varoudis | hrw|work, what i have to do? |
| 14:07.14 | hrw|work | Varoudis: rmmod usb-uhci;modprobe g_ether? |
| 14:07.26 | hrw|work | Varoudis: I do not have cxx00 so do not remember how it goes |
| 14:07.48 | XorA | Varoudis: I just run those in a script |
| 14:08.08 | XorA | Varoudis: you could hack the /etc/bluetooth/hciattach file though |
| 14:09.06 | XorA | hrw|work: that hack works for xtscal BTW |
| 14:09.06 | Varoudis | hrw|work, usbcore? |
| 14:09.20 | XorA | hrw|work: I hacked up a .ipk with that version and image booted fine |
| 14:10.11 | hrw|work | XorA: then pester ph5 to push or push it |
| 14:15.54 | Varoudis | hrw|work, modprobe g_ether says device in use |
| 14:42.49 | YoG | Hi, I'm going to flash 3.5.4.1, is it safe doing "cd /home" followed by "rm -rf *"? |
| 14:46.29 | hrw|work | it is but I would do backup of it |
| 14:46.45 | YoG | ok |
| 14:46.48 | YoG | thanx |
| 14:47.14 | YoG | any other tips? |
| 14:57.43 | CoreDump|home | hi |
| 15:09.16 | XorA | hrw|work: which package makes cpp, is it gcc? |
| 15:09.40 | hrw|work | cpp is cpp but need gcc ;( |
| 15:09.57 | hrw|work | recipe need some love |
| 15:13.53 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: added some new stuff into feed/base |
| 15:15.02 | CoreDump|home | hrw|work: hmm |
| 15:15.38 | hrw|work | synced |
| 15:16.20 | CoreDump|home | hrw|work: that's no problem for hentges.net, but it will be for the other mirrors. They really should be "install and forget"-type mirrors :\ |
| 15:17.02 | hrw|work | sure - next time will add into upgrades |
| 15:17.08 | CoreDump|home | and this will break the round-robin aproach I was going to field-test soon |
| 15:17.27 | hrw|work | I do not want to sync whole ewi anyway |
| 15:17.32 | CoreDump|home | hrw|work: thanks ;) If "upgrades" gets too large we can always build a new release |
| 15:17.42 | hrw|work | feed/machine/tosa feed/upgrades/machine/tosa should not sync ;D |
| 15:17.49 | CoreDump|home | hehe |
| 15:18.47 | CoreDump|home | hrw|work: how's 2.6 doing on tosa? |
| 15:18.55 | hrw|work | much better then 2.4 |
| 15:19.05 | hrw|work | but not tried usb yet |
| 15:19.14 | CoreDump|home | same as poodle then |
| 15:19.36 | CoreDump|home | ah damn shame, really. Tosa is such a great device (IMO)+ |
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| 15:21.46 | hrw|work | anyway I miss 'power on on cancel hold' on tosa.. |
| 15:22.58 | CoreDump|home | how does it turn on? dedicated pwr button? |
| 15:23.02 | hrw|work | yes |
| 15:23.09 | hrw|work | on left side |
| 15:23.16 | hrw|work | power, irda, record (from top) |
| 15:23.30 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: and altboot ALWAYS show menu on boot |
| 15:25.45 | CoreDump|home | hrw|work: failsafe probably. It's not finding tosa's keyboard interrupt |
| 15:26.23 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: it's 'tosakbd' |
| 15:26.24 | CoreDump|home | do a cat /proc/interrupts and pres a few keys, tell me the line w/ the kbd interrupt |
| 15:27.43 | hrw|work | 92, 93, 94, 95, 96, 97, 98 |
| 15:27.51 | CoreDump|home | ok |
| 15:27.53 | Varoudis | i lost the tool bar |
| 15:27.57 | Varoudis | with hide |
| 15:28.10 | hrw|work | Varoudis: matchbox or fluxbox? |
| 15:28.38 | Varoudis | match |
| 15:29.27 | CoreDump|home | Varoudis: hehe it's bitch to get it back |
| 15:30.07 | Varoudis | reboot? |
| 15:30.14 | hrw|work | relogin rather? |
| 15:30.21 | CoreDump|home | there were some screenshots of pdaxrom on oesf.org. Looks neat :\ |
| 15:30.23 | hrw|work | try to touch bottom of screen |
| 15:30.29 | Varoudis | how to relogin? |
| 15:30.40 | hrw|work | menu has logout |
| 15:30.46 | hrw|work | you can also ctrl-alt-backspac |
| 15:30.47 | hrw|work | e |
| 15:30.49 | CoreDump|home | yeah bottom of the screen should bring it back, if not recalibrate your touchscreen |
| 15:31.57 | Varoudis | got it back.. but flux bar is 0!! |
| 15:31.58 | Varoudis | lol |
| 15:32.16 | Varoudis | bar width is 0 |
| 15:32.16 | Varoudis | lol |
| 15:32.31 | XorA | CoreDump|home: another bug in fluxbox is it doesnt get the names of all windows, puts a lot of the as "Unnamed" |
| 15:33.14 | CoreDump|home | XorA: that is usually an application bug when the app doesn't set WM_CLASS as per guideline |
| 15:33.39 | XorA | CoreDump|home: even when the apps work in matchbox-wm |
| 15:33.48 | CoreDump|home | I asked about that in #fluxbox because matchbox-panel has the same problem (made it a bitch to run off deco) |
| 15:34.49 | CoreDump|home | sigh |
| 15:34.54 | CoreDump|home | ldd is bugged on OZ |
| 15:35.14 | XorA | CoreDump|home: desktop rotated, but panel is now in middle of screen with white box underneath |
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| 15:36.22 | CoreDump|home | XorA: the white box is the problem. one can resize matchbox-desktop using wmctrl but it is still fubar and insists on the old geometry of the desktop |
| 15:36.43 | XorA | CoreDump|home: wierd, thats different from the first time I tried thatr |
| 15:36.48 | CoreDump|home | hmmm |
| 15:36.54 | XorA | ~lart xrdb |
| 15:37.44 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: will you fix altboot or should I take care of it? |
| 15:37.54 | CoreDump|home | hrw|work: I will, pulling atm |
| 15:38.01 | hrw|work | ok |
| 15:38.03 | XorA | WTF is up with cpp |
| 15:38.10 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: altboot 1.0.7-rNEXT? |
| 15:38.13 | hrw|work | cu |
| 15:38.21 | CoreDump|home | hrw|gone: later |
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| 15:39.17 | XorA | CoreDump|home: what supplies cpp on oz3541 xrdb requires it |
| 15:39.31 | CoreDump|home | XorA: uhh no idea sorry |
| 15:39.47 | CoreDump|home | what does xrdb do? |
| 15:39.59 | XorA | CoreDump|home: merges .Xdefaults into the database |
| 15:40.11 | CoreDump|home | ahh |
| 15:40.20 | XorA | kind of needed for fonts etc to work |
| 15:40.22 | CoreDump|home | compiled fine here fwiw |
| 15:40.36 | XorA | CoreDump|home: it compiled here, but I cant find a working cpp |
| 15:41.09 | CoreDump|home | a working cpp for oz? |
| 15:41.15 | XorA | CoreDump|home: yes |
| 15:41.22 | CoreDump|home | never tried that sorry |
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| 15:50.22 | Flikker | Qtopia Desktop won't sync with Outlook for me... does anyone know where I can find a version of Intellisync that will sync to OZ 3.5.4.1 on my c3100? (their website is cryptic to me) |
| 15:55.27 | XorA | Flikker: I dont think there is one, your basically locked to qtopia desktop |
| 15:57.23 | Flikker | XorA: okay... any ideas then on why Qtopia keeps telling me that Outlook.exe crashed? Then I do get the popup that something is trying to access the Address book, I grant permission for 10 minutes. It LOOKS like it's synching but nothing goes either way... |
| 15:57.45 | XorA | Flikker: not a bug Ive seen before, qtopiadesktop always worked for me |
| 15:58.46 | Flikker | XorA: The only thing I have different is that outlook is not configured for email... (I use Thunderbird for email) but my cell phone contacts sync with outlook. do you know if that would matter? |
| 15:59.35 | XorA | Flikker: it shouldnt do, and outlook.exe certainly shouldnt crash |
| 16:00.13 | Flikker | XorA: well I was about ready to reinstall my laptop (for other reasons) I may just have to wait and see if that "magically" fixes it... |
| 16:00.54 | XorA | Flikker: I used to use Qtopia desktop all the time to sync outlook and never had problems, sounds like your outlook install is up the duff |
| 16:02.03 | Flikker | XorA: big surprise there... <sigh> Any way to sync a cell phone directly to the Z? |
| 16:02.20 | XorA | Flikker: under gpe multisync may be able to do it |
| 16:02.27 | XorA | but Ive never tried that path |
| 16:02.30 | XorA | anyway I must go |
| 16:02.35 | Flikker | Thanks! |
| 16:20.11 | YoG | hi, i'd like to backup my home dir before reflashing, will "tar -cvf /media/card/home_backup/home.tar -C /home ." do the work? |
| 16:20.39 | YoG | there are some dynamic links in there, how will tar regards them? |
| 16:54.37 | magnet | when I try to compile synergy, it complain about missing Xtest.h, which package provide it ? |
| 16:57.58 | magnet | YoG: your tar sounds ok , without -h symlinks will be saved as they are. |
| 17:16.24 | YoG | thanx magnet, thats what i wanted to know |
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| 17:27.35 | magnet | shouldn t libxtst-dev, have Xtest.h file ? I can t find it ! |
| 17:30.15 | magnet | XTest.h even. |
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| 18:13.57 | magnet | ok fixed. |
| 18:14.10 | magnet | now I'm missing the package for perl lol. this will never end. |
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| 18:33.08 | YoG | hi, I just reflashed oz3.5.4.1 - succefully :)... I moved the "/opt" dir to an image on my sd card and mount it using loopback in my fstab... when I tried to restart the Z halts after saying "starting opie"... any ideas? |
| 18:33.53 | YoG | before moving "/opt" dir to the sd, it started ok |
| 18:34.27 | YoG | oh... and if i don't load opie, i do see the /opt dir mounted in the right place |
| 18:48.42 | YoG | ok... when I moved the mount point of the image to /media/loop0, it started ok... I don't know why it didn't work with /mnt/loop0... |
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| 18:58.38 | Hrw|tosa | ho |
| 19:04.39 | lpotter | hi |
| 19:06.13 | Hrw|tosa | hi ljp |
| 19:13.56 | magnet | evening. |
| 19:14.12 | lpotter | morning |
| 19:14.18 | YoG | evening |
| 20:00.30 | YoG | hi, I'm trying to install mplayer, but it complains for missing libX11-6... but I'm using opie |
| 20:00.59 | YoG | I'm installing from the 3.5.4.1 feeds using "ipkg" |
| 20:08.20 | CoreDump|home | YoG: your libdsl is wrong |
| 20:08.30 | CoreDump|home | libsdl that is |
| 20:11.24 | YoG | how do i fix it? |
| 20:11.48 | YoG | when i installed mplayer, it also installed: |
| 20:12.02 | YoG | libsdl-1.2-0_1.2.7-r7_arm.ipk |
| 20:13.42 | CoreDump|home | yeah well, the problem is with our buildsystem. It doesn't differentiate between the X11 and QT versions of SDL. I don't know how to fix that permanently |
| 20:14.12 | zedkatuf|desktop | use a shell script as a workaround for now???? |
| 20:14.42 | CoreDump|home | nope, it's not that easy |
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| 20:14.47 | hrw|husky | hi |
| 20:14.51 | YoG | hi |
| 20:14.56 | CoreDump|home | hrw|husky: thanks ;) |
| 20:14.58 | hrw|husky | wasap? |
| 20:15.15 | CoreDump|home | hrw|husky: yog got bitten by our famous sdl x11/qt bug... |
| 20:15.27 | YoG | :-> |
| 20:15.29 | hrw|husky | on device? |
| 20:15.33 | CoreDump|home | looks like x11 sdl is in the feeds. |
| 20:15.35 | YoG | boxer |
| 20:15.51 | hrw|husky | iirc both are in feeds |
| 20:16.25 | CoreDump|home | interesting, one in gpe/ one in opie/? |
| 20:16.35 | hrw|husky | x11 opie |
| 20:16.58 | CoreDump|home | YoG: ipkg remove libsdl |
| 20:17.18 | YoG | and...? |
| 20:17.29 | CoreDump|home | ipkg update ; ipkg install libsdl |
| 20:17.43 | hrw|husky | libsdl0 |
| 20:17.49 | CoreDump|home | lets see if the opie one is bugged |
| 20:17.54 | CoreDump|home | right |
| 20:19.20 | YoG | "ipkg remove libsdl" = "No packges removed" |
| 20:19.40 | CoreDump|home | <hrw|husky> libsdl0 |
| 20:20.00 | YoG | that didnt work either |
| 20:20.24 | hrw|husky | strange |
| 20:20.28 | CoreDump|home | indeed |
| 20:20.40 | YoG | i can try the package manager |
| 20:20.44 | CoreDump|home | ok, ipkg update ; ipkg install libsdl0 -force-overwrite |
| 20:21.18 | YoG | updating... |
| 20:22.13 | YoG | installing... |
| 20:23.02 | YoG | "cannot find packager libsdl0"... |
| 20:23.49 | YoG | I'm working with ewi... maybe thats the problem? |
| 20:23.57 | CoreDump|home | ewi is fine |
| 20:24.04 | CoreDump|home | it's the master server |
| 20:24.22 | YoG | ok |
| 20:24.38 | YoG | I can try the package manager |
| 20:24.44 | CoreDump|home | hmmm i need an image w/ intact ipkg.conf |
| 20:25.38 | YoG | the package manager shows that libsdl-1.2-0 is installed |
| 20:26.55 | CoreDump|home | err |
| 20:27.18 | hrw|husky | root@c7x0:~# ipkg list libsdl* libsdl-1.2-0 - 1.2.7-r7 - Simple DirectMedia Layer - QtE-based Palmtop Environments Edition |
| 20:27.36 | YoG | ? |
| 20:27.50 | CoreDump|home | the package name is libsdl-1.2 |
| 20:27.52 | hrw|husky | c7x0 with opie-image |
| 20:28.10 | YoG | trying ipkg list libsdl* |
| 20:28.11 | thejapa | hrw|husky: like, playing abuse on a handheld would be cool. :) |
| 20:28.22 | thejapa | j/k |
| 20:28.34 | CoreDump|home | thejapa: playing doom2 used to be fun on collie :) |
| 20:28.46 | CoreDump|home | it stinks on SL-Cxx00 |
| 20:28.48 | hrw|husky | quake1!! |
| 20:28.54 | YoG | got: libsdl-1.2-0 - 1.2.7-r7 - Simple DirectMedia Layer - QtE-based Palmtop Environments Edition |
| 20:29.24 | thejapa | CoreDump|home: w00t! |
| 20:29.25 | CoreDump|home | ipkg remove libsdl-1.2 ; ipkg install libsdl-1.2 |
| 20:29.50 | hrw|husky | coredump: doom2 on rotated collie with ir keyboard.. multiplayer over wifi... |
| 20:30.09 | CoreDump|home | hrw|husky: hehe hardwcore |
| 20:30.11 | YoG | "No packegs removed" |
| 20:30.13 | YoG | sob |
| 20:30.28 | YoG | ha... got it |
| 20:30.39 | YoG | libsdl-1.2-0 |
| 20:30.51 | CoreDump|home | ~lart idiotic package naming |
| 20:30.54 | hrw|husky | tab switch tabs |
| 20:31.11 | CoreDump|home | hrw|husky: ever tried GPEs gaim IRC? |
| 20:31.15 | CoreDump|home | pretty neat |
| 20:31.29 | hrw|husky | coredump: indeed - nice |
| 20:31.51 | YoG | now... what to install? "libsdl" "0" or "1.2" or "1.2-0"? |
| 20:31.56 | hrw|husky | qpe-gaim stinks |
| 20:32.12 | hrw|husky | yog: ipkg install abuse-opie |
| 20:32.30 | YoG | ? |
| 20:32.34 | YoG | whats that? |
| 20:32.54 | hrw|husky | 950mAh battery makes c7x0 nicely small but end to fast.. |
| 20:33.00 | hrw|husky | yog:game? |
| 20:33.09 | CoreDump|home | YoG: a game that should pull in the correct sdl |
| 20:33.18 | YoG | ah |
| 20:33.19 | YoG | ok |
| 20:33.30 | hrw|husky | yog:do not waste time to install libs. |
| 20:33.41 | hrw|husky | install apps - ipkg should care rest |
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| 20:34.09 | YoG | "cannot satisfy... mesa" |
| 20:34.26 | hrw|husky | for? |
| 20:34.33 | YoG | abuse-opie |
| 20:34.47 | YoG | _0.7.0-r0_arm |
| 20:34.58 | hrw|husky | hmm.. then abuse need fixing to not link opengl |
| 20:35.12 | thejapa | ew |
| 20:35.30 | hrw|husky | yog:report bug |
| 20:35.46 | YoG | whats the bug? |
| 20:36.01 | YoG | "can't install mplayer and abuse-opie"? |
| 20:36.07 | thejapa | abuse was the first linux game I played... hehe, slackware some really old version |
| 20:36.42 | hrw|husky | yog: whts wrong with mplayer? |
| 20:37.10 | hrw|husky | installing prboom-opie... |
| 20:38.01 | YoG | hrw: mplayer requiers libX11 when installing on opie |
| 20:38.27 | YoG | is this an oe bug or opir bug? |
| 20:38.34 | hrw|husky | thats another bug |
| 20:38.36 | hrw|husky | oz |
| 20:38.47 | hrw|husky | report all oz bugs into oe bugtracker |
| 20:38.59 | YoG | ok |
| 20:39.13 | hrw|husky | 30% of battery.. |
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| 20:45.27 | hrw|husky | sdl has wrong rotation on c7x0 :( |
| 20:45.52 | YoG | ok, submitted a bug |
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| 21:05.58 | poushagZ | sup coredump? |
| 21:06.24 | CoreDump|home | not much, time for bed actually |
| 21:07.06 | poushagZ | k - iwad trying to use qemu on mac for Z devel |
| 21:07.18 | CoreDump|home | YoG: I've just installed mplayer on opie. Works fine w/ correct sdl |
| 21:07.18 | poushagZ | s/iwad/i was/ |
| 21:07.32 | CoreDump|home | poushagZ: sounds painful |
| 21:07.40 | poushagZ | but its 10x slower than live sys |
| 21:08.06 | YoG | CoreDump: I tried reinstalling libsdl, and then mplayer it gave me the same error, can you tell me exactly what you did? |
| 21:08.10 | poushagZ | so imgoing to try vmware on pc [yuk] instead |
| 21:09.14 | CoreDump|home | ipkg remove mplayer libsdl-1.2-0 -force-depends |
| 21:09.25 | CoreDump|home | ipkg install mplayer |
| 21:10.27 | poushagZ | what i need is an intel mac |
| 21:10.47 | poushagZ | tfen w/ parallels can have linux vm |
| 21:10.54 | YoG | CoreDump: what machine are you on? |
| 21:10.59 | CoreDump|home | akita |
| 21:11.00 | poushagZ | s/tfen/then/ |
| 21:11.08 | CoreDump|home | poushagZ: yeah |
| 21:11.45 | poushagZ | oh well - itll be a while... $44 |
| 21:12.00 | poushagZ | s/$44/$$$/ |
| 21:12.16 | YoG | CoreDump: maybe thats the difference? (I'm on boxer) |
| 21:13.02 | CoreDump|home | YoG: the files are pulled from the common feed. |
| 21:13.05 | YoG | CoreDump: Tried installing again, it didn't work |
| 21:14.27 | CoreDump|home | paste your ipkg.conf here: http://rafb.net/paste/ |
| 21:14.52 | poushagZ | check out the new amd chip - does virtualization intwrcept |
| 21:15.12 | poushagZ | s/intwrcept/intercept/ |
| 21:15.42 | poushagZ | intel does too - but amd is much better |
| 21:16.33 | poushagZ | ~seen xora |
| 21:16.47 | ibot | xora <n=dp@81-179-72-76.dsl.pipex.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #openzaurus, 5h 14m 17s ago, saying: 'anyway I must go'. |
| 21:17.11 | YoG | CoreDump: http://rafb.net/paste/results/7kTZgy68.html |
| 21:18.33 | YoG | CoreDump: sorry, go to here: http://rafb.net/paste/results/1Hx56f64.html |
| 21:18.53 | poushagZ | sup zedkatuf? |
| 21:19.19 | CoreDump|home | YoG: that looks fine. dunno why you keep pulling in the wrong sdl |
| 21:19.36 | YoG | can I force it to pull the right one? |
| 21:19.46 | YoG | i.e. manually d/l? |
| 21:20.08 | poushagZ | prob if you type the whole ipk filename |
| 21:21.35 | CoreDump|home | sorry, bed time :\ n8 all |
| 21:22.10 | poushagZ | the opie irc client is sorting the roster by alphabet - but all ids starting with caps then all the lowercase ones |
| 21:22.42 | poushagZ | nite coredump |
| 21:24.52 | poushagZ | and scrollbar for chat has two up-arrows (no down arrow!) |
| 21:25.27 | poushagZ | not too bright opie-irc |
| 21:32.55 | poushagZ | be back later on desktop |
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| 21:40.06 | Zectbumo | zedkatuf|desktop, are you there? |
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| 22:04.22 | YoG | good night guys |
| 22:08.35 | Zectbumo | zedkatuf, are you around? |
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| 22:11.01 | KerwoodDerby1 | kewl, talkin' on my terrier |
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| 22:15.33 | DrBoB | anyone in here able to get mplayer to play realaudio content? NASA TV audio is only in .ra and I would like to listen in |
| 22:16.56 | raduga | no. the codecs are proprietary |
| 22:17.25 | raduga | mplayer will play real content on i386, using DLLs from i386 windows, |
| 22:17.26 | DrBoB | hmmm..I thought that might have changed since Helix |
| 22:17.35 | raduga | no, the codecs are *still* proprietary |
| 22:17.51 | raduga | helix opened the container format |
| 22:18.17 | DrBoB | bleh... that is teh 5ux.. |
| 22:19.20 | DrBoB | guess I'll have to use something other than my zaurus to listen in..thanks for the input...I've been pullin out my hair |
| 22:20.46 | raduga | well, hmm |
| 22:21.00 | raduga | ffmpeg has reverse-engineered support for a few *very* old Real codecs |
| 22:21.24 | raduga | its remotely possible that NASA TV uses a codec that's been cracked |
| 22:22.52 | DrBoB | I'll look into that... I'm using Cacko ROM at the moment though... wonder if I can get ffmpeg to run in this environment |
| 22:23.45 | raduga | I'm pretty sure ffmpeg is part of the standard mplayer |
| 22:23.52 | raduga | er, any mplayer build that anyone would bother to make |
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| 22:29.09 | raduga | nice. :/ real player doesn't report what codec the NASA TV stream is using |
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| 22:30.30 | DrBoB | sorry... I goofed up and knocked myself offline..heh heh |
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| 22:32.49 | dproldan | hello |
| 22:33.24 | Zectbumo | hi |
| 22:34.45 | dproldan | I'm trying to compile the kernel and am getting an error about a "stdarg.h" file missing |
| 22:35.13 | dproldan | don't know if I'm doing something wrong |
| 23:12.45 | KerwoodDerby | probably... |
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| 23:37.48 | Tomoe | hy |
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