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02:01.54KerwoodDerbywhoa...another happenin' Friday night...
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05:21.53sleeplapwhats a light-weight gui web browser for OPIE? (I'm using 3.5.4 unstable on collie)
05:22.08sleeplapthanks in advance for any responses :)
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05:35.54lpottertry konqueror
05:38.32sleeplapyeah i was trying to decide between it and dillo to play with for now...
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07:51.50dproldanhi
07:53.00dproldani hope somebody here can help me,  when compiling the kernel,  it says it cannot find a file "stdarg.h",  where should I get that file?
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08:04.04YoGdproldan: maybe try on #oe
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08:16.35alan|homemorning all
08:28.08YoGmorning
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09:22.10Tomoehy
09:23.27YoGhi
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10:10.56filiphi :)
10:11.05Tomoehy
10:11.07filipWhere can I find openzaurus 2.6 kernel patches?
10:11.18filipis usb slave mode supported on 2.6?
10:12.05Tomoeum yes?
10:12.26filipdoes it need any patches? Because in stock menuconifg I can't find any HCD driver for zaurus
10:13.34filipthe point is that I have a SA1111/SA1100 based jornada 720, and I need usb slave mode on it ;)
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10:15.51filipTomoe: what driver is used for slave HCD?
10:16.08Tomoeoh
10:17.04Tomoefilip: dunno but I have the options about what should zaurus act like in the slave mode so I assumed the driver is there
10:17.15TomoeI'm a fresh oz user, 2 days old =)
10:17.36filip:-S
10:17.40filiphmmm
10:17.47filipTomoe: could you send me your dmesg?
10:18.50filiphttp://rpsys.net/openzaurus/
10:21.10filiplooks bad ;/
10:24.06Tomoethis are teh usb-related lines
10:26.02Tomoewtf is wrong with pastebin
10:26.10Tomoegonna paste you on pmsg
10:36.06YoGhelp my Z locks when trying to boot opie
10:36.35YoGI'm running OZ3.5.4.1 on C860
10:36.48incineratorhi folks, is there an easy way to upgrade my 860 without wiping the root partition?
10:37.06incineratorupgrade 3.5.4 -> 3.5.4.1
10:38.52YoGincinerator: I asked the same question yesterday and was told to reflash
10:42.14incineratorYoG: thx, but that would mean my installed packages would get lost, wouldn't they?
10:42.27YoGyes
10:42.34YoGI guess
10:42.56incineratorwell, that's bad news I'd say :-(
10:43.35YoGlook on the bright side, its an opportunity for a clean start ;-)
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10:53.28YoGis there a problem with putting the "/opt" directory on the SD? I had no problems with OZ3.5.4, but OZ3.5.4.1 refuses to boot
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12:09.10Varoudisany 4g SD user with the l;atest OZ on 3100?
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12:29.15prxqhi. in http://wiki.openzaurus.org/Spitz/Install there is a description to access the service menue of the c3200 that is different from the one in the TRIsoft handbook (page 31 in the english version). Is this known? Which one is right?
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13:08.50hrhrhi...it's possible disconnect microdrive an attach on it place wifi or bt card?
13:08.51Varoudis25k/s write speed on a 4g SD (ext3) is ok???
13:09.20Varoudishrhr, you need to hack init scripts
13:10.22hrhrit's not a problem, I interested in possibility of hardware hack
13:13.06hrhr=/
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13:17.39dan2003Does anybody know if the screen on the later Z ie 3000/3100 is better than the 7x0 in regard to visibilty outdoors?
13:22.45dan2003The definition and brightness of the 7x0 is amazing in doors, but outside it is hopeless.. the screen just appears black as is the case with most LCD screens, yet the display on my camera is one of these daylight ones which actually looks brighter the more the sun shine on it. I was just wondering if this tech has made it into the PDA world, specifcally the Z
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16:39.50prxqwhy are in http://wiki.openzaurus.org/Spitz/Install the partition sizes so small? 150Mb for root, 40 for /home, and the rest just as vfat. What is the idea behind that?
16:40.41prxqare there only 150mb of software for the zaurus, or does it get installed somewhere else?
16:42.04JustinP150M is generally enough for a decent sized Z install
16:42.09JustinPyou can make it bigger if you want
16:42.15JustinPthose are just guidelines
16:42.59prxqhm
16:43.41prxqincluding opie and all the bells and whistles?
16:45.22CoreDump|homehi
16:45.50Varoudishello CoreDump|home
16:46.00alan|homehi CoreDump|home JustinP Varoudis prxq
16:46.20VaroudisCoreDump|home, do you know if its ok to have a write speed of 30k/s on 4g SD?
16:47.27alan|homeVaroudis: i thought more than 2go sd cards wouldn't work at all...
16:49.21CoreDump|homeno idea
16:53.35prxqYEAH! OpenZaurus install went well.
16:53.44prxqWhat is this altboot password?
16:54.15prxqshould I be weary of using an important pw for it?
16:54.34prxqlike the root pw for the little critter?
16:54.44CoreDump|homeany password is fine
16:55.01JustinPalan|home: hey
16:55.46prxqcool splash screens!
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17:03.42prxq"you have inserted the card HITACHI microdrive. This card is not yet configured. Do you want to configure it now"? Thing is, that is the built in hard disk. What should I do?
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17:11.50prxqhow's it with users? Am I always root when I boot into opie?
17:12.22JustinPIIRC yes
17:12.48prxqso ssh is "root" "empty password" :-)
17:13.06JustinPthe default root user has no password, correct
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17:26.48prxqhow about wlan - is there something like a dhclient?
17:26.48prxqor rather - wlan is detected as eth0, no problem. But I'd like to set up an IP
17:28.08JustinPprxq: /etc/network/interfaces
17:28.13JustinPprxq: dhcp is the default usually
17:28.21JustinPprxq: there is also a network settings app
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17:29.48YoGhi CoreDump
17:29.57CoreDump|homehi YoG
17:30.04prxqhm...
17:30.31YoGI installed scummvm (which also uses libsdl) and it worked fine, so my problem is not libsdl
17:30.56YoG(we are talking about my problem installing mplayer)
17:31.05YoGany other ideas?
17:34.52XorA|goneYoG: are you the person for whom mplayer depends on libX11?
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17:36.55YoGyes
17:38.04YoGXora: I also reflashed today, but the problem persisted. the only thing I did before installing mplayer was to move the "/opt" directory to the sd card
17:38.34prxqyeah!
17:39.08XorA|goneYoG: is it mplayer or SDL that depends on x11?
17:39.44YoGXorA: mplayer gives the error, not libsdl.
17:41.29YoGXora: I also tried "force depends" in case its just dependence bug, but when I tried to run mplayer, it failed on the same library.
17:44.59XorA|goneYoG: you on a c7x0/cxx00 or 5500?
17:47.28YoGXorA: C860
17:48.30XorA|goneno dependency on X11 in mplayer Depends: mplayer-common, libmad0 (>= 0.15.0b), liblzo1 (>= 1.08), libpng12-0 (>= 1.2.8), libz1 (>= 1.2.3), libjpeg62 (>= 6b), libasound2 (>= 1.0.10), libc6 (>=
17:48.35XorA|gone2.3.5+cvs20050627), ncurses (>= 5.4), libungif4 (>= 4.1.3), libsdl-1.2-0 (>= 1.2.7), libaticore1 (>= 1.0.1), libgcc1 (>= 3.4.4)
17:48.47XorA|goneso something mplayer depends on, depends on X11
17:48.56JustinPYoG: did you try installing libsdl-opie before mplayer?
17:49.45YoGJustinP: I have scummvm running now (this uses libsdl), mplayer is not installed and refusses to install due to a missing libx11-6
17:50.06YoGI use: "ipkg install mplayer"
17:51.00YoGXorA: how do I check the dependencies?
17:52.08XorA|goneYoG: I am looking at the control files in the ipks
17:52.16XorA|goneYoG: you can look at the Packages file
17:53.32JustinPYoG: try installing each of those deps to see which one pulls in x
17:53.45XorA|gonefound the bug
17:53.51XorA|gonelibungif4 depends on X11
17:54.08YoGXorA: great, what should I do?
17:54.25XorA|goneYoG: update your bug on OE and I shall talk to hrw|gone on monday about fixing t
17:54.29XorA|goneit
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17:55.20YoGwill do. can I bypass the bug somehow?
17:55.34XorA|goneinstall libX11
17:56.59YoGwhill this be the solution for the bug, or will libungif4 be recompiled?
17:57.36XorA|goneYoG: we will re-issue libungif without x11 dependancy probably
17:58.04YoGgreat, thanx alot
17:59.05XorA|goneYoG: please put this info in your bug though so I dont forget, Im about to go out on the piss
17:59.32YoGXorA: already updated the bug. Have fun :)
18:02.56XorA|goneYoG: trying to do a quick hack for you to confirm the problem
18:07.00YoGXorA: installation went ok, but now mplayer requiers libXau
18:07.31YoGXorA: I guess I'll have to wait for the new libungif...
18:07.47YoGXorA: maybe form the 3.5.4 feed?
18:08.33XorA|goneYoG: yeah, that might work, libungif hasnt changed for a while
18:08.58YoGXorA: I'll let you know
18:12.33YoGXorA: I don't find libungif in the 3.5.4 feed (there is one in the x11 feed, but iguess thats not the one I look for). what depends on it in the mplayer pkg?
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18:14.36XorA|goneYoG: used for playing animated gifs
18:14.55XorA|goneYoG: bloody thing is broken, even if I pass --without-x it still links with X
18:15.50YoGXorA: How did I installed it, if there is no libungif in the 3.5.4 feed?
18:16.38XorA|goneYoG: its in 3.5.4.1
18:17.35YoGXorA: yes, but in the 3.5.4.1 its broken, and I had mplayer on the 3.5.4 so I guess there it's not broken, but I dont find the library there...
18:17.56YoGXorA: I'll try another server
18:18.33XorA|goneYoG: I added it to mplayer for 3.5.4.1
18:18.54XorA|gone:-(
18:19.08YoGoh
18:19.48YoGSo, in theory, I could install mplayer from 3.5.4 (with all the deps from there)
18:21.40YoGXorA: or was it updated also in the 3.5.4 upgrades feed?
18:24.23CoreDump|homeYoG: that should work, yes
18:26.30YoGCoreDump: I think in the upgardes feed its the newer version, but in the opie feed there is one, I suppose should work...
18:26.39YoGI'll try that one.
18:31.43XorA|goneIm afraid I cant make a quick hack of removing X from ungif work
18:31.49XorA|goneungif sucks big time
18:31.58XorA|goneanyway I should be offski
18:32.34YoGXorA, CoreDump: the version from the 3.5.4 opie feed works fine :), thats: mplayer_1.0pre7-r2_arm
18:33.06YoGthe newer version (pre8) is bugged. thanks guys, I'll add this comment to the bug...
18:33.11XorA|goneYoG: cool, and we shall try and fix the 3.5.4.1 version next week when I have more time
18:34.12XorA|gonebye
18:36.55YoGbye XorA
18:37.54CoreDump|homelater XorA|gone
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18:58.39YoGdoes anyone works with samba here?
18:59.29hrhryes
18:59.49hrhrproblems?
18:59.51YoGhow do I add new shares
19:00.02hrhrsmb.conf
19:00.08YoGyes?
19:00.14hrhrit have many smaples
19:00.16hrhryes
19:01.13hrhrwho can comment this http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=2570 ?
19:02.04hrhrand it's hard without any special equipment?
19:13.39CoreDump|homenice photo of a sl-cxx00
19:15.33YoGhrhr: and how do i update the smb deamon about the changes i did to smb.conf?
19:18.09hrhrstop service and start
19:18.29hrhrCoreDump|home: 3000
19:20.04YoGhrhr: thanx.
19:21.40hrhrnp
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23:01.09Tomoehy guys
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