| 00:02.05 | JustinP | SmrtJustin: logout |
| 00:02.50 | arm-bar | My wifi CF card is loading the ornico_cs driver instead of hostap. |
| 00:02.56 | arm-bar | Socket 1: |
| 00:02.57 | arm-bar | product info "Ambicom". "WL1100C 802.11 CF-Card, "2.2" |
| 00:02.57 | arm-bar | manfid: 0xd601, 0x0002 |
| 00:02.57 | arm-bar | function: 6 (network) |
| 00:03.34 | JustinP | arm-bar: uninstall orinoco-cs :-/ |
| 00:04.58 | arm-bar | ok I was tring this but it failed. ipkg remove kernel-module-orinoco -recursive |
| 00:06.51 | arm-bar | JustinP: ipkg remove orinorco-cs No packages removed. Nothing to be done.? |
| 00:08.04 | arm-bar | JustinP: my card is seen as eth0 and not wlan0. |
| 00:13.26 | JustinP | ipkg list |
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| 00:15.18 | Tomoe | JustinP: smooth |
| 00:18.23 | arm-bar | ok, so I have kernel-module-orinoco-2.6, kernel-module-orinoco-cs-2.6, and orinoco-conf. |
| 00:18.45 | arm-bar | remove all 3 JustinP? |
| 00:20.01 | JustinP | arm-bar: sure |
| 00:20.20 | arm-bar | JustinP: :) |
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| 00:40.11 | benplaut | is there a way to change the names of tabs (i don't want them to collapse into icons)? i'm on OZ 3.5.4.1, opie 1.2.1 |
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| 00:41.43 | JustinP | benplaut: yes...but I don't remember where. It's in some file |
| 00:41.54 | benplaut | >_> |
| 00:41.54 | benplaut | k |
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| 00:53.45 | insearchof|gone | am I the only one getting random disconnects? |
| 00:54.33 | benplaut | apparently so |
| 00:54.44 | insearchof | ;-) |
| 00:55.23 | Kerwood_ | insearchof|gone: well, no, but I just swapped out a router which was part of my problem. my other problems are that Adelphia will soon be Comcast and that thunderstorms are in the area :( |
| 00:55.32 | Kerwood_ | can't do much about them |
| 00:56.08 | insearchof | Kerwood_: You from Maryland? |
| 00:56.14 | Kerwood_ | yup |
| 00:56.33 | insearchof | ok... I'm from PA... storms just passed about 1 1/2 ago |
| 00:57.08 | insearchof | I see that maryland was getting hit with the same, you get any hail? |
| 00:57.15 | Kerwood_ | naw, not here |
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| 02:10.09 | benplaut | finally!! |
| 02:10.53 | benplaut | found it: just rename the bastard in /opt/QtPalmtop/apps/<tabname>/.directory |
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| 02:39.53 | poushag | benplaut are you still polling for opinions on pims: opie vs gpe vs kopi? |
| 02:40.20 | benplaut | poushag: i've settled with opie's built in |
| 02:41.02 | poushag | well im using opie now too but oyu can install kopi and kapi from the opie feed |
| 02:41.12 | poushag | s/yuo/you/ |
| 02:41.12 | benplaut | i know |
| 02:41.19 | benplaut | i tried it... seemed like overkill |
| 02:41.52 | poushag | kopi seems good for my situation - i share ics files via webdav on my server - will try to sync kopi with it at some point |
| 02:42.19 | poushag | do you plan to send email from the Z? |
| 02:44.57 | poushag | because you wont get opie-mail to send with password auth on smtp |
| 02:45.40 | poushag | im going to try ompi to hopefully get by that one |
| 02:47.12 | benplaut | dunno |
| 02:47.23 | benplaut | i'll probably just set up jabber and irc |
| 04:07.27 | arm-bar | Is it better to put swap at the end of the prtition table? |
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| 04:24.22 | benplaut | in total, about how large is the entire repo? |
| 04:26.44 | benplaut | opie branch, that is |
| 04:35.27 | hvontres|home | benplaut: are you talking about the feeds or the OE meatadata? |
| 04:35.36 | benplaut | the feeds |
| 04:36.02 | benplaut | until i get a wifi card, it might be useful to put the feed on a sd card, for deps |
| 04:37.26 | hvontres|home | you might want to check with CoreDump tomorrow. He has one of the mirrors. |
| 04:37.48 | benplaut | k |
| 04:41.43 | benplaut | i estimate roughly 300mb, not sure |
| 04:42.03 | arm-bar | How do I get $ on my sl-c3100 keyboard? |
| 04:42.27 | NA|Zzz | arm-bar: shift-4? |
| 04:42.31 | NA|Zzz | I'll get mine and check.. |
| 04:42.37 | arm-bar | thanks:/ |
| 04:42.56 | NA|Zzz | Yep, shift-4 works for me. |
| 04:43.23 | arm-bar | and the esc key? |
| 04:43.37 | NA|Zzz | cancel, down the bottom right, next to the arrow pad/OK |
| 04:44.04 | arm-bar | Thank agian. |
| 04:44.09 | arm-bar | Thanks |
| 04:44.15 | NA|Zzz | No probs |
| 04:47.04 | benplaut | this is amusing... |
| 04:47.27 | benplaut | trying to figure a way to download 894 files, automated, without a hard lock :D |
| 04:49.22 | hvontres|home | wget -r?? |
| 04:49.28 | benplaut | aye |
| 04:49.32 | benplaut | going berserk |
| 04:49.55 | benplaut | i have a auto-throttler... it keeps tripping the safety wire |
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| 06:21.30 | rmrfchik | re |
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| 08:28.19 | rmrfchik | XorA who and how is building base packages for oz/opie? |
| 08:29.21 | pgas | hrw with OE |
| 08:30.22 | XorA | rmrfchik: what pgas said |
| 08:34.08 | rmrfchik | hrw absent ;) ok, will wait. |
| 08:36.57 | XorA | rmrfchik: what you need? |
| 08:50.50 | lardman | morning all |
| 08:51.21 | XorA | hey lardman |
| 08:51.39 | lardman | hi XorA |
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| 09:02.14 | rmrfchik | XorA i need the knowledge, how to build qpe-vexed. |
| 09:02.43 | XorA | rmrfchik: if its in OE, they bitbake qpe-vexed :-) |
| 09:03.54 | rmrfchik | i tired figthing moc, qmake and so on to find the correct command line to build. |
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| 09:36.44 | CoreDump|home | morning |
| 10:31.04 | lardman | ~seen bronson |
| 10:31.08 | ibot | bronson <n=bronson@209-221-203-148.dsl.qnet.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #openzaurus, 5d 11h 1m 17s ago, saying: 'Kerwood_, hey, thanks. I'll have to check the logs. :)'. |
| 10:32.24 | lardman | oz website seems to be down |
| 10:32.33 | lardman | or having troubles at least |
| 10:34.27 | pgas | lardman: the wiki? |
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| 11:38.17 | lindenle | So my Fn+3/4 does not work to dim/brighten the back light can anyone help me fix this: (OZ 3.5.4.1 & Sl-C860 & GPE) |
| 11:41.22 | lindenle | Also Fn+Left does not take me to virtual terminal |
| 11:41.27 | lindenle | are thes bugs related? |
| 11:43.54 | XorA | lindenle: Fn+left right works on console not in X |
| 11:44.27 | lindenle | XorA: Oh, how do i get to a VT from X? |
| 11:44.52 | lindenle | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:46.57 | XorA | lindenle: chvt X |
| 11:47.10 | XorA | lindenle: we dont tie those keys to backlight control |
| 11:50.27 | lindenle | XorA: Oh can you tell me which keys ae used to control the backlight |
| 11:50.33 | lindenle | or how to ty those to it |
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| 11:54.10 | XorA | lindenle: no keys are assgned if I recall right, you can use keylaunch to assgn them |
| 11:59.38 | lindenle | XorA: What is the keylaunchrc syntax? |
| 12:00.57 | lindenle | is altgr == Fn |
| 12:01.20 | XorA | lindenle: I beleive so, and I never use keylaunch |
| 12:01.33 | XorA | and CoreDump|afk is afk unfortuneately |
| 12:06.26 | lindenle | XorA: I have to say that i am very frustrated with this stupid keymap thing, I have been trying for weeks now to get the keys the way I like them but my changes never seem to take effect. i.e. I like the cal and address buttonds to be Crl and Alt and i dont like quick launch at all. I cannot make this work, can you help? |
| 12:09.32 | XorA | lindenle: to change Cal/Addr to Ctrl and Alt I think requires kernel kermap changes |
| 12:11.30 | XorA | lindenle: /etc/keymap-2.6.map |
| 12:11.46 | lindenle | XorA: Right but i cannot figure out how to make it work |
| 12:12.15 | XorA | lindenle: if you alter that file. the /etc/init.d/loadkeys I think |
| 12:12.44 | XorA | lindenle: I assume you are coming from pdaXrom |
| 12:12.50 | lindenle | loadkeys /etc/keymap... |
| 12:12.51 | lindenle | yep |
| 12:16.22 | lindenle | doesn't work |
| 12:16.29 | lindenle | for Cal and Address |
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| 13:59.22 | lardman | 35.2C, hitting new records for warmness in my office |
| 14:03.23 | DataBeaver | Gah, the touch screen on my Z suddenly stopped working. |
| 14:03.53 | lardman | reboot, I've seen that before with the driver going mad |
| 14:04.04 | DataBeaver | Already did |
| 14:04.21 | DataBeaver | Maybe I should try a harder reboot... |
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| 14:05.33 | lardman | Anyone want to decipher some dmesg from the forum?: http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=20585&hl= |
| 14:06.00 | lardman | DataBeaver: Unless there's some file corruption/incompatibility instead |
| 14:07.13 | DataBeaver | Shutdown the device, removed battery for a few seconds and rebooted, still not working. |
| 14:07.33 | XorA | lardman: possible / full case? |
| 14:07.50 | DataBeaver | 51.9M available on / |
| 14:08.03 | XorA | DataBeaver: not you, forum post |
| 14:08.08 | DataBeaver | oh |
| 14:08.12 | nevarrie | what do I need to change to make it so I can login with ssh after changing my shell to /bin/bash...that or does anyone have any idea what woudl cause it so that I could nto login after changing my shell to /bin/bash..I am still llooking for a log to tell me the exact reason so even pointing me to the logs I am looking for... |
| 14:08.42 | XorA | DataBeaver: what model you got? |
| 14:08.48 | DataBeaver | SL-C3100 |
| 14:09.24 | DataBeaver | It was fine last evening, and I haven't installed anything since then |
| 14:10.18 | DataBeaver | Okay, I get data from /dev/input/event1 so the device is not physically broken |
| 14:10.36 | XorA | DataBeaver: all I can suggest is back it up, then flash a new/sharp rom and retest |
| 14:10.57 | XorA | DataBeaver: certanly not seen a bug report like that on channel before |
| 14:11.41 | DataBeaver | Hm, I did install a new version of gpe-dm last evening... The touchscreen was working after that, but I did not logout until now. |
| 14:13.23 | DataBeaver | Is there something in gpe-dm or its way to start the X server that could screw things up? |
| 14:14.06 | XorA | DataBeaver: shouldnt be |
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| 14:18.02 | DataBeaver | Various things hint towards /dev/input/touchscreenX, which I don't have |
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| 14:20.44 | DataBeaver | The X server is not overly happy about getting -mouse /dev/input/event1 either |
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| 14:52.34 | poushag | nevarrie, i wanted to use bash too - i and others have tried it on OZ - i dont know why but unless you are going to troubleshoot and make a patch, might as well forget it |
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| 15:00.40 | DataBeaver | Lately I've been getting errors from free() from gpe-conf and passwd... Any idea what could be wrong? |
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| 15:17.22 | arm-bar | Is native compilation of the kernel on the Z not possible or not wise? |
| 15:19.09 | XorA | arm-bar: ts possble, but slow |
| 15:19.16 | XorA | its possible but slow |
| 15:19.20 | XorA | me I key is faulty |
| 15:22.19 | DataBeaver | passwd is not part of gpe |
| 15:22.53 | lardman | DataBeaver: Or your $path is screwed up |
| 15:23.38 | DataBeaver | How'd that cause free() to report corruption? |
| 15:24.02 | XorA | DataBeaver: upgraded to glib-2.0? |
| 15:24.08 | XorA | glib 2.10 sorry |
| 15:24.24 | DataBeaver | Possibly |
| 15:24.26 | lardman | DataBeaver: Thought you were talking about passwd |
| 15:25.12 | DataBeaver | lardman: Yes, when I try to change my password, I get "*** glibc detected *** passwd: free(): invalid next size (fast): 0x0001f908 ***" |
| 15:25.57 | DataBeaver | XorA: I have glib 2.12 installed currently |
| 15:26.11 | DataBeaver | lardman: And the error from gpe-conf is very similar |
| 15:26.52 | lardman | ah, I see - ignore me, going mad with the heat ;) |
| 15:28.24 | XorA | DataBeaver: thats what I am running here, 2.10 had massive problems like that, not seen them from 2.12 |
| 15:28.41 | DataBeaver | hmh. |
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| 15:35.17 | arm-bar | Wher can I find the 2.6.16 kernel and the .config file for the 3.5.4.1? |
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| 15:38.27 | DoTheDog | lardman: you around? |
| 15:42.58 | DataBeaver | Hmph. gdb isn't much use since there's a stack frame loop at abort. |
| 15:44.01 | DataBeaver | I should probably take the package list from the device, feed that to bitbake and then upgrade all packages... |
| 15:45.46 | lardman | DoTheDog: Yep I'm here, but heading off soon, need to get out of this office |
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| 15:46.58 | DoTheDog | lardman: All right, I'll play around with it today and leave you something on the oesf board ;) |
| 15:48.29 | lardman | DoTheDog: Cool |
| 15:48.44 | lardman | DoTheDog: Did you work out where the make.rules file was being copied to? |
| 15:49.19 | DoTheDog | yeah, ~/crosscompileOE/stuff/packages/PlutoHome/PlutoUtils |
| 15:49.45 | lardman | wierd location... |
| 15:50.32 | lardman | If you have troubles, try gicing koen a should on irc in #oe |
| 15:50.38 | lardman | giving even |
| 15:50.43 | lardman | and shout |
| 15:50.48 | DoTheDog | lol |
| 15:51.03 | DoTheDog | yeah, I'll give him a try, he responded to the post on oesf |
| 15:51.08 | lardman | Heat's got to me, I'm off before I die of heat exhaustion ;) |
| 15:51.13 | lardman | bye guys |
| 15:51.17 | DoTheDog | later. |
| 15:51.48 | arm-bar | How can I get the kernel-source installed to build packadges from source? |
| 15:52.50 | arm-bar | I have a CF card that needs a firmware upgrade but the hostap packadge was not configured to allow for downloading of firmware. |
| 15:53.55 | arm-bar | So I am tring to rebuild the hostap driver but I am missing the symbolic link to the kernel, the kernel and the .cofig file. |
| 15:55.19 | hobbs | arm-bar: that would be... not exactly easy ;) |
| 15:55.31 | XorA | arm-bar: the easiest way is to use OE |
| 16:01.06 | arm-bar | What did he mean by OE? Thats not a rom is it? |
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| 16:01.55 | hobbs | http://www.openembedded.org/ |
| 16:05.13 | hobbs | or rather, http://wiki.openzaurus.org/Developing |
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| 16:17.00 | arm-bar | This may be obvious to some but does the gcc version have to match on the Z and on the box I install OE on? |
| 16:18.54 | hobbs | arm-bar: OE will be installing a copy of gcc to build everything with |
| 16:19.20 | arm-bar | OK, I will give it a shot. |
| 17:09.21 | DataBeaver | What would be the easiest way to build all packages I currently have installed on my Z? |
| 17:11.17 | DataBeaver | The ipkg list_installed idea didn't work so well since most packages have different names in bitbake |
| 17:11.51 | hvontres|poodle | arm-bar: Make sure you use the .oz354x branch.. the .dev is full of dragons..:) |
| 17:12.48 | arm-bar | I was just going through this http://www.openembedded.org/screencasts/org.openembedded.htm |
| 17:14.04 | XorA|gone | DataBeaver: bitbake gpe-image + a few additions probably |
| 17:14.53 | DataBeaver | Hmh. That'll build some extra stuff but I guess it's not so bad since there doesn't seem to be any better way... |
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| 17:31.39 | DataBeaver | I evidently should have /dev/input/touchscreen0, but I don't... |
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| 17:38.01 | hobbs | ooh |
| 17:38.07 | hobbs | new bootup logo is the shiznit ;) |
| 17:38.21 | hobbs | dammit. Teh. stupid x-chat ;) |
| 17:42.14 | Tomoe | fail |
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| 17:55.47 | DataBeaver | Bah. gpe-today fails to build. |
| 18:08.29 | DataBeaver | Apparently due to my newer preferred version of libeventdb... |
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| 18:28.58 | Greg2 | hello everyone |
| 18:29.05 | hvontres|poodle | hi Greg2 |
| 18:29.33 | Greg2 | hey hvontres|poodle |
| 18:30.13 | Greg2 | CoreDump|home: ping |
| 18:32.15 | hvontres|poodle | Greg2: I think he is still afk..:) |
| 18:32.40 | Greg2 | hvontres|poodle: do you now if he's on oe? |
| 18:33.07 | Greg2 | s/now/no |
| 18:33.27 | hvontres|poodle | well, he is on , just not near his machine :) |
| 18:34.06 | Greg2 | s/now/know heh, can't spell |
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| 18:35.01 | hvontres|poodle | ~seen CoreDump|afk |
| 18:35.07 | ibot | coredump|afk is currently on #gpe #oe #openzaurus, last said: 'http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/kernel-26-on-poodle-status-page/#'. |
| 18:35.25 | hvontres|poodle | ~seen CoreDump|home |
| 18:35.27 | ibot | coredump|home <n=mhentges@hentges.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #gpe, 8h 58m 35s ago, saying: 'morning'. |
| 18:39.46 | Greg2 | hvontres|poodle: would you ping me so i know what it does :) |
| 18:43.11 | Greg2 | bbiab |
| 18:43.16 | hobbs | that was interesting. ipkg upgrade clobbered my ipkg.conf and status area :| |
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| 18:47.15 | SmrtJustin | for GPE, is there any other browsers besides gpe-mini-browser and firefox? I used to use Opie, and Konqueror would also zoom/resize images, but gpe-mini-browser only does the text. |
| 18:48.16 | hobbs | dillo? |
| 18:48.44 | SmrtJustin | I guess I'll try it |
| 18:49.40 | SmrtJustin | Cannot find package dillo |
| 18:54.48 | SmrtJustin | is it possible to get Opera to work on GPE? |
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| 19:08.44 | SmrtJustin | are there feeds I need/should add to get additional software like dillo? |
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| 19:09.23 | Greg2 | re |
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| 19:33.55 | hvontres|poodle | ping Greg2 |
| 19:34.35 | hvontres|poodle | ~ping Greg2 |
| 19:34.36 | ibot | pong Greg2 |
| 19:35.33 | Greg2 | thanks :) |
| 19:36.54 | hvontres|poodle | Greg2: so what does ping do? |
| 19:37.58 | Greg2 | hvontres|poodle: ping |
| 19:39.10 | Greg2 | i was expecting more |
| 19:40.55 | hvontres|poodle | ping hvontres|poodle |
| 19:41.39 | SmrtJustin | is it possible to get the Zaurus to mount samba shares? |
| 19:41.49 | SmrtJustin | or if its easier... nfs shares? |
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| 20:32.58 | Greg2 | good night all |
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| 20:36.47 | JustinP | SmrtJustin: yes |
| 20:38.46 | SmrtJustin | well JustinP, sadly I gave up on GPE |
| 20:39.53 | SmrtJustin | I liked it, but I couldn't find a browser that supported image resizing like Konqueror does |
| 20:41.03 | JustinP | :-/ |
| 20:41.11 | JustinP | np |
| 20:41.19 | JustinP | SmrtJustin: Yes for NFS and samba |
| 20:43.27 | SmrtJustin | JustinP: which is easier? |
| 20:44.26 | JustinP | SmrtJustin: I find samba easier because I often work with windows machines, but CoreDump uses nfs all the time. Neither should be hard |
| 20:44.47 | JustinP | SmrtJustin: NFS should be usable with the default image. You may need to install smbclient (or samba) for smb |
| 20:44.59 | SmrtJustin | ok |
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| 20:48.22 | tzanger | is there a gpe package for some type of mp3 player for 3.5.4? |
| 20:48.34 | tzanger | (kinda new ot the whole OZ thing) |
| 20:48.53 | SmrtJustin | gpe-nmf |
| 20:49.48 | tzanger | hmm I'm not seeing it |
| 20:49.58 | SmrtJustin | do: ipkg update |
| 20:50.20 | tzanger | ahh that would entail netowrking working on here :-) I'm just trying to copy the package over to a card at this point :-) |
| 20:50.30 | SmrtJustin | ...oh |
| 20:52.44 | tzanger | hmm ewi's mirror has an empty gpe feed, wtf |
| 20:53.58 | JustinP | tzanger: perhaps you need the 3.5.4.1 feeds |
| 20:54.07 | tzanger | can't use 3.5.4.1 with the SL-5500 |
| 20:54.23 | tzanger | I found gpe-nmf 0.03 but that's from 2002 |
| 20:54.44 | poushag | tzanger you can flash collie to 3.5.4.1 fro hentges |
| 20:54.51 | poushag | s/fro/from/ |
| 20:55.19 | poushag | ive been using it for a couple weeks |
| 20:55.26 | poushag | brb |
| 20:55.27 | tzanger | I'm unfamilliar with 'hentges', what's that? |
| 20:56.09 | JustinP | tzanger: just update your feeds to 3.5.4.1 except the collie feed |
| 20:56.12 | JustinP | tzanger: should work fine |
| 20:56.31 | JustinP | tzanger: or just add all of the 3.5.4.1 as well. The ipks will work just fine on 3.5.4 |
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| 20:57.18 | tzanger | oh okay |
| 20:57.34 | tzanger | I guess I better just get off my ass and get networking working on this thing |
| 20:58.43 | tzanger | thanks ofr your help guys. :-) |
| 20:59.26 | JustinP | tzanger: well, copying the ipk is fine too, but dependencies are easier when you have networking :-/ |
| 20:59.59 | SmrtJustin | man I wish I could find a browser that would resize images so I could use GPE... |
| 21:01.09 | JustinP | SmrtJustin: I'm sure there's a Firefox extension for it :-| |
| 21:01.26 | JustinP | SmrtJustin: I'm kinda surprised they didn't put something like that in gpe-mini-browser |
| 21:01.53 | SmrtJustin | JustinP: yeah, probably, but firefox is kind of on the slow side, and it itself is not optimized for the collie screen |
| 21:02.03 | SmrtJustin | JustinP: I wish gpe-mini-browser did |
| 21:09.32 | poushag | tzanger go over to #hentges.net he has links up |
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| 21:25.06 | poushag | ~ping zedkatuf |
| 21:25.07 | ibot | pong zedkatuf |
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| 21:44.06 | SmrtJustin | JustinP: do you have a collie? |
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| 21:45.32 | JustinP | SmrtJustin: yes, but it's been dead for more than a year |
| 21:46.26 | SmrtJustin | oh... |
| 21:46.51 | SmrtJustin | I'm kind of missing GPE, so now I don't know what to do... stick w/ Opie, or go back to GPE |
| 21:46.58 | JustinP | you can do both ;-) |
| 21:47.11 | JustinP | I wrote the original guide up on oz.org about it |
| 21:47.16 | JustinP | and ran them on my collie |
| 21:47.24 | JustinP | haven't done it in a while, though |
| 21:47.28 | JustinP | you can always have 2 images too |
| 21:47.31 | JustinP | one for gpe, one for opie |
| 21:47.38 | JustinP | and just altboot them |
| 21:47.42 | JustinP | or 2 SD cards ;-) |
| 21:47.45 | SmrtJustin | lol |
| 21:47.57 | JustinP | or you could have both installed on one root and have some kind of menu to choose which one you want |
| 21:48.00 | hobbs | SD is cheap cheap cheap :) |
| 21:48.04 | JustinP | hey, that would be very useful.... |
| 21:48.16 | SmrtJustin | I gotta find some more room on my flash, altboot can't write a /etc/altboot.conf, so its not remembering my [3] choice |
| 21:48.46 | hobbs | I've still got a collie because I didn't manage to sell it when I tried. But I don't touch it because the akita is so much shinier |
| 21:49.24 | SmrtJustin | the only thing thats keeping me from using GPE is the browser situation... |
| 21:49.35 | hobbs | there's only one thing that I really liked about the collie, and that was if I was using it as an mp3 player, I could use D-pad for control even when the whole device was closed up and in my pocket |
| 21:49.59 | hobbs | with the akita, if it's closed, the only buttons I have are ok, cancel, up, down, and power :) |
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| 21:50.39 | JustinP | yeah |
| 21:50.41 | SmrtJustin | hobbs, what program did you use for a mp3 player? |
| 21:50.41 | JustinP | *but* |
| 21:51.04 | hobbs | SmrtJustin: qtxmms |
| 21:51.08 | JustinP | hobbs: there's always the CE-RH2. Very nice.....but I have had no luck getting multiple buttons to work on it in 2.6 kernel....only one button... |
| 21:51.47 | hobbs | JustinP: I wonder if there are any cheapo USB HID compatible "twiddler" sort of things. Just a little fob with a cable and a few buttons |
| 21:52.19 | JustinP | hobbs: interesting point. However, the CE-RH2 is perfect for music esp as it's an inline remote |
| 21:52.38 | JustinP | AFAIK I'm the only person with one using OZ |
| 21:52.53 | JustinP | had to do the kernel driver myself....and I simply could not get useful values out of it |
| 21:52.56 | SmrtJustin | is qtxmms not in the feeds? |
| 21:52.59 | hobbs | JustinP: do you know where they can be gotten? |
| 21:53.14 | hobbs | SmrtJustin: try 'xmms-embedded" |
| 21:53.30 | SmrtJustin | k |
| 21:53.31 | hobbs | JustinP: I know a few things about the kernel |
| 21:54.01 | hobbs | yow |
| 21:54.01 | JustinP | hobbs: I got mine from Dynamism (same place I got my spitz) |
| 21:54.07 | JustinP | was ~$100, though |
| 21:54.12 | hobbs | JustinP: I just looked it up at conics. They cost more than most pairs of headphones |
| 21:54.18 | JustinP | yeah |
| 21:54.31 | SmrtJustin | you know, gaim on GPE was *much* nicer than the QT version Opie has... |
| 21:54.31 | hobbs | not springing for that |
| 21:54.36 | JustinP | and for a fairly cheap thing too....not that it's falling apart, but it's very simple |
| 21:54.49 | hobbs | SmrtJustin: it is and it isn't. All the Qt version really needs is a loving maintainer |
| 21:55.13 | JustinP | hobbs: you can build your own I'm pretty sure. The schematics are out there. Just a few in-line resistors |
| 21:55.13 | SmrtJustin | thats my most used OZ app |
| 21:55.42 | hobbs | JustinP: hmm. might have to see. I've always wondered how it works |
| 21:56.14 | hobbs | JustinP: I'd help you hack on the driver, but I'm not paying that much for the hardware ;) |
| 21:56.28 | JustinP | yeah...:-[ |
| 21:56.53 | JustinP | if youw ant to take a look I can give you my patch, but I don't know if you'd find anything....RP didn't find anything, but then again he has so much else to do |
| 21:58.34 | hobbs | JustinP: hmm, can I get 4-ring 3.5" connectors at Fry's or whatever? |
| 21:58.38 | hobbs | heh 3.5" |
| 21:58.42 | hobbs | 3.5mm |
| 21:59.10 | SmrtJustin | hobbs: happen to know what I need to get xmms to play streams? |
| 21:59.20 | JustinP | hobbs: I would think so |
| 21:59.26 | hobbs | SmrtJustin: nope |
| 21:59.31 | JustinP | hobbs: if you like I can take a picture of mine so you can make sure you have the right one |
| 22:00.01 | JustinP | hobbs: also, make sur eyou're looking at the CE-RH2...the CE-RH1 is somewhat different...the control pin is in a different place I think |
| 22:05.19 | CoreDump|home | hi |
| 22:06.02 | hobbs | JustinP: is this the right schematic for RH2-compatible: http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=1167 ? |
| 22:06.44 | JustinP | CE-RH2 is Cxx00 compatible. CE-RH1 is Cxx0 compatible |
| 22:06.57 | JustinP | since it says C1000/3000/3200 I think it's ok ;-) |
| 22:07.05 | JustinP | hmm...creative zen remote...interesting |
| 22:07.10 | JustinP | I would *love* some driver help |
| 22:07.50 | hobbs | JustinP: I'm at work now, but if I gave you an address could you mail the patch my way? |
| 22:08.05 | JustinP | np |
| 22:08.10 | JustinP | I have it on my site, actually |
| 22:08.35 | hobbs | the Zen remote apparently goes for $20ish, that's much better if it's not too hard to tear apart |
| 22:09.14 | hobbs | but it probably uses little itty bitty impossible components ;) |
| 22:09.15 | JustinP | wow...that's much better |
| 22:09.20 | JustinP | http://oe.reversefold.com/sharpsl-rc.patch |
| 22:09.24 | JustinP | http://oe.reversefold.com/sharpsl-rc_testing.patch |
| 22:09.46 | JustinP | the second has more output IIRC and a few additional bits of code to try to get it closer to the 2.4 kernel |
| 22:09.55 | JustinP | they both work the same |
| 22:10.08 | JustinP | I can get *one* value out of the driver. Any button press gives the same value |
| 22:10.13 | hobbs | JustinP: interesting thing though, if your driver could be made to work, it might be possible to use the Zen remote with no or minimal modifications -- just by recognizing different voltage values |
| 22:10.25 | JustinP | ^_^ |
| 22:10.27 | JustinP | yep |
| 22:10.43 | JustinP | in fact, I would suggest getting the Zen remote and just plug it in and see what values you get out |
| 22:10.50 | hobbs | s/different/a different set of/ |
| 22:10.58 | hobbs | gah. stupid bot ;) |
| 22:11.13 | JustinP | RP swears that there's no bugs in the max1111 code but it seems like the only place there could be... |
| 22:11.35 | hobbs | JustinP: I'll see if it's in any stores on the way home. I've got a Best Buy and Circuit City on the way, and some other places a little way's drive |
| 22:13.30 | hobbs | JustinP: with any luck, the zen one doesn't swap control and ground relative to the sharp one |
| 22:15.07 | JustinP | hobbs: according to that schematic the pins on the jack are the same as the CE-RH2 but not the CE-RH1 |
| 22:15.43 | hobbs | JustinP: yeah, I think you're right. I was having a hard time following this person's writing |
| 22:17.16 | JustinP | I know that the CE-RH1 doesn't work on the Cxx00 |
| 22:17.27 | hobbs | right |
| 22:18.38 | hobbs | JustinP: CircuitCity has the zen remote listed, but "Out of stock online. Not available in stores." |
| 22:19.00 | hobbs | i.e. they don't have any, they just hate me ;) |
| 22:20.15 | hobbs | but Fry's has a very affordable rice cooker... |
| 22:22.29 | JustinP | Dynamism sent me a CE-RH1.... |
| 22:22.39 | JustinP | so it took a week to get my replacement CE-RH2 |
| 22:23.33 | SmrtJustin | I got Samba working! |
| 22:23.55 | hobbs | I can get one of those zen remotes online easily enough, but it looks like I probably won't find it in a store |
| 22:23.55 | SmrtJustin | xmms isn't too good at loading 1600 mp3s from a playlist though.... |
| 22:25.47 | SmrtJustin | JustinP: do you think mpd/ncmpc would be better at loading this big of a playlist? |
| 22:26.21 | hobbs | SmrtJustin: probably :) |
| 22:27.15 | SmrtJustin | lol |
| 22:34.00 | SmrtJustin | ...I wonder how opie-mediaplayer2 would work.... |
| 22:34.11 | SmrtJustin | (I can't even get mpd to work right on my desktop) |
| 22:34.56 | hobbs | SmrtJustin: not at all, in my experience |
| 22:35.10 | SmrtJustin | ...oh |
| 22:36.50 | JustinP | mpd works great |
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| 22:36.57 | JustinP | you just need a conf file |
| 22:37.02 | JustinP | and run mpd --create-db |
| 22:37.13 | SmrtJustin | yeah, it can't "spec" my music directory |
| 22:37.17 | JustinP | I like ncmpc because it's console |
| 22:37.26 | JustinP | well..... |
| 22:37.32 | JustinP | you sure it's readable? |
| 22:37.37 | SmrtJustin | cannot setgid of user mpd: Operation not permitted |
| 22:37.40 | JustinP | and that you have the path right in the conf file? |
| 22:37.43 | SmrtJustin | (thats when I run it as my user) |
| 22:37.46 | JustinP | ah |
| 22:37.47 | JustinP | well |
| 22:37.55 | JustinP | you have it set to become the user and group mpd likely |
| 22:38.03 | JustinP | but the group doesn't exists |
| 22:38.12 | JustinP | then the mpd user doesn't have access to your music |
| 22:38.18 | SmrtJustin | # optional, but HIGHLY RECOMMENDED |
| 22:38.18 | SmrtJustin | db_file "/var/lib/mpd/mpddb" |
| 22:38.18 | SmrtJustin | user "mpd" |
| 22:38.19 | JustinP | I'm guessing |
| 22:38.25 | JustinP | yeah |
| 22:38.30 | hobbs | SmrtJustin: kill that stuff :) |
| 22:38.37 | JustinP | make sure user "mpd" exists and has write to "/var/lib/mpd/mpddb" |
| 22:38.38 | SmrtJustin | delete both lines? |
| 22:38.50 | hobbs | SmrtJustin: or create an mpd user I suppose ;) |
| 22:38.51 | SmrtJustin | can I just make the mpd user, my user? |
| 22:38.51 | JustinP | you could remove it and it will use the default |
| 22:39.00 | JustinP | you could try that, yeah |
| 22:39.03 | JustinP | mpd is a daemon, though |
| 22:39.11 | hobbs | http://sial.org/pbot/18512 is all you really need for an mpd config |
| 22:39.22 | JustinP | if ti has vulnerabilities you could be opening up your user |
| 22:39.25 | SmrtJustin | I commented the two lines, and its working now |
| 22:39.52 | JustinP | ^_^ |
| 22:40.04 | JustinP | after mpd --create-db youjust need mpd to start it |
| 22:40.08 | JustinP | then a frontend |
| 22:40.12 | SmrtJustin | right |
| 22:40.13 | JustinP | mpc/ncmpc/gmpc/glurp |
| 22:42.30 | SmrtJustin | ok...I need to learn the keybindings for ncmpc |
| 22:42.54 | JustinP | h |
| 22:43.09 | hobbs | 1 2 3 4 switch pages |
| 22:43.13 | hobbs | help is on page 1 :) |
| 22:43.15 | JustinP | tab also |
| 22:45.57 | SmrtJustin | can I add all? |
| 22:47.36 | hobbs | all what? |
| 22:47.53 | SmrtJustin | my music to the playlist |
| 22:48.11 | hobbs | you can hit the add key on a directory, is that good enough? ;) |
| 22:48.30 | SmrtJustin | lol I have a lot of directories |
| 22:48.53 | hobbs | you could put them all under another directory :P |
| 22:50.55 | SmrtJustin | ok, creating a db on the Z |
| 22:52.32 | SmrtJustin | its not nearly as fast doing it as my desktop was lol |
| 22:55.42 | JustinP | yeah, I'd say put all of your music in one dir and just hit "space" on it |
| 22:55.52 | JustinP | you can save playlists in mpd as well...although I never have |
| 22:55.58 | JustinP | I pretty much listen to albums |
| 22:56.37 | hobbs | I use a saved playlist of all of my relatively mellow mix, then when I go to bed, I load it, shuffle, and play :) |
| 22:57.00 | hobbs | s,mix,music, |
| 22:58.31 | JustinP | :-) |
| 22:58.44 | JustinP | I have a "Calm" mix, but that's about it |
| 22:58.56 | JustinP | oh, and my "Best of Best of OCRemix", but I just put them in a different dir |
| 22:59.19 | SmrtJustin | OC, as "The OC" the show? |
| 22:59.31 | hobbs | JustinP: actually I have one of those too :) |
| 23:07.49 | SmrtJustin | ...cool it works |
| 23:08.12 | hobbs | JustinP: alright, I'm out. I'll see if I can scare up any remote thingies in stores |
| 23:08.28 | SmrtJustin | cya hobbs |
| 23:09.10 | SmrtJustin | with the console fullscreened, this ncmpc is pretty cool |
| 23:23.47 | JustinP | SmrtJustin: :-) |
| 23:23.54 | JustinP | no, as in OverClocked |
| 23:23.58 | JustinP | as in OCRemix.org |
| 23:24.18 | SmrtJustin | ahh |
| 23:29.25 | JustinP | ^_^ |
| 23:29.33 | JustinP | some good stuff on there |
| 23:29.40 | JustinP | some mediocre stuff too, of course |
| 23:34.44 | SmrtJustin | hmf, my Z doesn't want to go to sleep gracefully |
| 23:38.50 | SmrtJustin | JustinP: if I install openssh, can I remove dropbear? |
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| 23:50.06 | JustinP | SmrtJustin: yes |
| 23:50.18 | JustinP | SmrtJustin: make sur eyou get the server one and the client one...multiple packages |
| 23:51.14 | SmrtJustin | I think I did |
| 23:51.37 | SmrtJustin | Package dropbear is depended upon by packages: task-bootstrap |
| 23:51.46 | SmrtJustin | should I force it? |