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00:00.35JiniDogwell, I was able to modify the conifg file via console
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01:39.32poushagok i see the include file (kdepimpi-base.inc) - but i think the email prog can be built - the problem with opie mail is actually a problem in libetpan that ompi (the k-opie-mail) doesnt have)
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01:39.52poushagsorry wrong channel
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07:07.24PolicyBasedHi
07:08.22rmrfchikhi
07:09.00punk-ass~/wi PolicyBased
07:09.08rmrfchikwhen I switch off zaurus, green led start blinking for about 3-5 sec. what does it mean? reading or writting?
07:09.08punk-asser
07:09.10punk-assPolicyBased: did you get a real terminal?
07:09.11PolicyBasedI am trying to install open zaurus on my akita, but just the bootstrap. It installed it and then it comes the boot manager which ask for a password and then it starts up.
07:09.14rmrfchikoz/opie 3.5.4.1
07:09.16PolicyBasednot yet
07:09.23PolicyBased:'(
07:09.29punk-assPolicyBased: edit /etc/inittab
07:09.45punk-assuncomment the vt lines, kill -1 1
07:10.26punk-assand you should be able to switch to them from the opie menu
07:10.26PolicyBased<PROTECTED>
07:10.41punk-asswell that was for your question from before
07:10.48PolicyBasedpunk-ass: now I installed openzaurus but now I can see just the openzaurus image
07:11.09punk-assso when you trflashed it broke?
07:11.25punk-assreflashed
07:11.45PolicyBasedhm
07:11.46punk-assoh nm tired
07:11.59punk-assglad that works, you can keep opie on it and use real terminals though
07:12.15PolicyBasedpunk-ass ah that means it works?
07:12.35punk-assyou get a login prompt?
07:12.38PolicyBasednow I have to put opie on it too, that I can change the inittab
07:12.49PolicyBasedno just the openzaurus image
07:12.54punk-assoh
07:13.19punk-assdouble checked the filenames you flashed?
07:13.21PolicyBasedI just put the bootstrap image on it
07:13.33punk-asskernel too?
07:14.06PolicyBasedyes zImage.bin, initrd.bin as well as updater.sh
07:14.43punk-assi'd double check the filenames to be sure
07:14.57PolicyBasedok I try it again
07:18.22punk-asshope it works, im going to sleep
07:18.39PolicyBasedsleep well
07:18.49PolicyBasedby me the day has just started ;-)
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07:52.30PolicyBasedI just can see the open zaurus picture on my akita after installing bootstrap
07:53.14PolicyBasedso I thought to turn it off and then again on but then it just appears Loading bootsplash...
07:53.26PolicyBaseduse alt-leftArrow to see the boot messages
07:53.41PolicyBasedbut after this nothing more happens
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08:08.43dinocoreis a zaurus worth getting?
08:09.13dinocoreim thinking about it
08:09.31dinocorebut im not sure i wanna spend $200-$400
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08:30.27PolicyBasednow I installed openzaurus with opie and it works
08:30.29PolicyBasednice
08:31.06PolicyBasedwith whitch short cut can I switch to a console ( terminal ) ?
08:31.54XorAPolicyBased: its an option on the menu
08:32.07PolicyBasedah ok
08:32.33PolicyBasedbut I don't mean the console application
08:32.56PolicyBasedI mean the black console
08:33.03XorAPolicyBased: no, there is a VT switcher on the menu, or at least there was back in 3.3.6 days
08:33.16PolicyBasednormaly it is ctrl + alt + F1 eg.
08:33.29PolicyBasedhm
08:34.02PolicyBasedno there isn't in 3.5.4.1
08:34.06PolicyBasedor I don't find it
08:34.25XorAPolicyBased: then its a package you can install
08:34.46XorAopie-vtapplet I think
08:34.56PolicyBasedah ok
08:34.57PolicyBasedthanks
08:35.02XorAnote disclaimer of I dont run opie :-)
08:35.55PolicyBasedah now I see it on http://openzaurus.berlios.de/ReleaseNotes/Oz3541 that they removed it
08:36.35XorAprobably as 99% of newbs used it and handnt read docs to get back to opie
08:36.56XorAFN Left/right to change vt from console btw
08:38.09PolicyBased:-D
08:38.11PolicyBasedok
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10:09.04lardmanmorning
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11:33.14polyonymousI wonder why does kernel still has both orinoco-cs and hostap-cs loaded for my card?
12:33.54lardmanpolyonymous: Both match, I think the solution is to remove (ipkg) orinoco
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12:50.59polyonymouslardman, yes, that is a solution. But is it the way things should be?
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12:56.34polyonymousHmm.. still, once in a while when wireless is up my screen goes milky white. At first I thought 2.6.17 seemed to fix this problem...
12:56.35lardmanpolyonymous: Probably not, I seem to remember hrw explaining why it was like that though
12:57.05polyonymousI would like to hear an explanation, but just out of curiosity.
12:57.35lardmanI'm afraid I can't remember what it was
12:57.50zedkatufpolyonymous; I've had teh same issue with 2.6.16 from time to time..it seems to be a firmware bug which causus a power overload
12:58.09polyonymouszedkatuf, I see. No solution?
12:58.24zedkatuf...the only solution at the moment  is to yank the wlan card out & put it back in again
12:58.32polyonymousYes, that's what I'm doing.
12:58.48zedkatuf..it seems to happen when there's alot of wlan traffic...like downloading emails for example
12:59.21polyonymousBut sometimes when I plug it back in it just write that the card was inserted in dmesg and does nothing. pccardctl doesn't give any info about the card.
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12:59.40polyonymousWell, right now I've just had the card plugged in and haven't touched the device for an hour or so
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13:12.07lardmanI'm away for a week, see you all then
13:12.07lardmanbye
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14:45.35ierkhi
14:45.49XorAhey
15:08.48ierkI've just got my new c3200 and would love to install openzaurus.
15:09.08ierkbut the netfront browser is so much more useable, is there a way to keep it?
15:10.07ierkgiven that i got dm-crypt and truecrypt to work on my c700 and i don't know how to compile this for the 2.4.x kernel used with the stock rom
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15:34.25XorAierk: I havent heard of anyone trying to make a hack so netfront works
15:35.07ierkXorA: too bad. is there a better browser for openzaurus?
15:35.19XorAierk: only if you use GPE
15:35.28ierk.oO( why doesn't opera, still, offer a browser)
15:35.39ierkXorA: so I'll try that
15:35.45XorAierk: there is some work on a newer konq/e but Im not sure what stage that is at
15:36.05XorAierk: GPE has links2/dillo/dillo2/firefox/gpe-mini-browser
15:36.14ierkwhat happens to the the flash anyway. when I install oz, it is untouched. so i should be able to "just" boot the original os
15:36.34XorAierk: I dont have a 3200 so cant answer that
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15:42.04polyonymousoerlot
15:42.08polyonymousoops
15:42.10polyonymous:)
15:48.57CoreDump|homehi
15:49.25JiniDoghi CoreDump|home
15:49.54JiniDoghave gentoo now running on the poodle
15:50.13CoreDump|homenow that sounds painful
15:50.46JiniDogyou know that there are still problems with sound; when you start the device sound comes always out of the speakers and not out of the headphone, even if it is plugged in
15:50.57JiniDogyou can change that by shutting the speakers of via alsamixer
15:51.13JiniDogbut you don't get them on again until you reboot, it comes out of the headphones
15:51.58radugayou can't re-enable them again, with alsamixer?
15:52.13CoreDump|homecorrect, that is a known problem
15:52.19radugacoredump: thanks
16:25.56polyonymouslinux-openzaurus 2.6.17 doesn't compile due to syntax error or even typo, isn't it unbelievable?
16:34.30CoreDump|homesince you casically have to go out of your way for OE to even _try_ compiling it for any gives device, I believe that is quite acceptable ;)
16:35.37polyonymousCoreDump|home, unsurprisingly, I think I don't understand what you're meaning :)
16:35.59polyonymous(and yes, I think I figured your typos)
16:36.35CoreDump|home2.6.17 is disabled by default
16:36.39polyonymouson .dev?
16:37.06polyonymousI thought this is what you mean, but as I haven't done a thing to make it use 2.6.17... :)
16:37.40polyonymousI'm not complaining, of course, I'm just surprised.
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18:29.43hvontres|poodleCoreDump|home: I noticed that your hentges image stil uses the old style destinations in ipkg.conf, eg /home instead of /home/packages. Is that intentional?
18:45.41cinixIs there a way to switch from the gpe login screen to a regular console login using the keyboard?
18:49.15cinixDoes it even run login screens? The login crashes beginning to start the window-manager so I'm stuck at the login screen
18:55.15CoreDump|homehvontres|poodle: yes it is
18:55.47CoreDump|homecinix: Ctrl-Alt-BS should work fine
18:58.33cinixCoreDump|home, I don't know what the alt key is on my sl-6000. I began to reflash my PDA already though. thanks
19:24.39CoreDump|homedoes anyone here remember the URL to _law_'s gpe-login multi-wm patch?
19:28.32CoreDump|home~praise bash history (http://helmsdeep.homelinux.net/~pat/gpe-login/)
19:28.43ibotAll hail bash history (http://helmsdeep.homelinux.net/~pat/gpe-login/)!
19:32.52polyonymous;-)))
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21:12.43arm-barhello
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21:31.19kellyhdamn, my zaurus wont turn on at all.
21:33.14arm-barmine does that but it usally comes back after I pull the battery.
21:33.48arm-baror start it with holding b & d keys
21:34.54kellyhseemingly it will only load the d & m menu
21:35.02kellyhholding ok and on button does nothing
21:35.10kellyh(this is a C860)
21:35.45arm-barah mine is a 3100.
21:37.50kellyhhmm, now the power and mail lights are flashing continously
21:48.06kellyhwont even go into d & m menu now. damn thing.
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22:24.59kellyhyay, got it to work seemingly
22:25.20cinixcongrats
22:28.10kellyhtho seems flashing OZ/opie failed
22:28.11cinixwhat did you do?
22:28.33kellyhleft it charging and it seemed to just kick into life when i held ok and pressed on
22:36.58polyonymousYeah, Z wants some spare power for doing things like flashing...
22:38.48kellyhi think it needed a little bit of of a shove to charge the battery enough to do anything other than D+M menu
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