| 00:06.13 | wpiku | hrmm.. anyone know how to manually generate a packages file? |
| 00:07.03 | hobbs | wpiku: I got pdaxrom booting from kexec. It's a bit funky and I think it might have screwed up my flash again, but it's booting ;) |
| 00:08.41 | wpiku | hehe |
| 00:08.42 | wpiku | cool |
| 00:08.49 | wpiku | I got good video performance with qvga |
| 00:08.55 | wpiku | and figured out how to build the package index now :-P |
| 00:09.12 | wpiku | going to get frozen bubble running in qvga |
| 00:09.15 | wpiku | if it's the last thing I do :-P |
| 00:09.41 | hobbs | haha |
| 00:09.53 | hobbs | ah, I think I figured out the issue. It helps a bit to change fstab ;) |
| 00:13.46 | hobbs | aha |
| 00:13.48 | hobbs | it's running! |
| 00:18.07 | wpiku | ohhh yeah |
| 00:18.11 | wpiku | I should have mentioned that to you |
| 00:18.12 | wpiku | the only real issue |
| 00:18.28 | wpiku | I wish I could get 2.6.16 back into my Z |
| 00:18.31 | wpiku | so I could use my SD card |
| 00:19.59 | hobbs | no CF card? |
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| 00:22.34 | wpiku | not near me |
| 00:22.54 | wpiku | for some reason ipkg installing to a new dest isn't checking deps |
| 00:23.43 | hobbs | wpiku: actually, you should still be able to reflash a new kernel. The system tools app runs its own kernel, not yours. |
| 00:33.19 | wpiku | yeah but I need to move the files around on the card first :-P |
| 00:39.29 | hobbs | so in any case, I've got this thing starting up, if not exactly _behaving_. I guess I'll do up a forum post and see if anyone actually cares :) |
| 00:41.58 | wpiku | I'd be curious to try it |
| 00:45.46 | hobbs | one major issue is that I'm getting a lot of oopses in dmesg |
| 00:46.00 | hobbs | I figure they probably aren't supposed to be there |
| 00:46.11 | hobbs | but they don't seem to be stopping anything either... although it's hard to say ;) |
| 00:48.41 | hobbs | you would have to dedicate an SD card to this though |
| 00:51.46 | Wicked_ | i set it so when after a certain amount of time, the lcd goes off, but is it just supposed to turn on by touching the screen or something? or is there a keyboard short cut or something? |
| 00:55.52 | Wicked_ | same thing as when i turn the backlight sewtting completly down |
| 00:55.58 | Wicked_ | it turns off the screen, and I don |
| 00:56.04 | Wicked_ | damn enter buttom |
| 00:56.17 | Wicked_ | and I don't know how to get it back |
| 00:57.57 | wpiku | I had the same issue |
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| 00:58.07 | wpiku | you need to do bl 255 |
| 00:58.08 | wpiku | from ssh |
| 00:58.14 | wpiku | it won't turn off while plugged in it seems |
| 01:01.41 | Wicked_ | damn |
| 01:01.45 | Wicked_ | i dont have ssh atm |
| 01:01.50 | Wicked_ | still waiting for my wifi card |
| 01:03.11 | wpiku | kind of annoying though :-P |
| 01:03.15 | wpiku | you can tell it's still on too |
| 01:03.28 | Wicked_ | yea |
| 01:03.35 | Wicked_ | i have to reset it =/ |
| 01:03.37 | Wicked_ | restart |
| 01:03.46 | Wicked_ | with the magic button =oo |
| 01:04.25 | Wicked_ | i like mind breaker >.> |
| 01:04.58 | Wicked_ | i totally forgot about it untill i saw it |
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| 01:59.06 | hobbs | wpiku: X is crashy as hell, but the rest seems to work ;) |
| 02:34.44 | wpiku | hobbs, hrmm.. wonder if X is crashy as hell normally though :-P |
| 02:38.37 | hobbs | no, something's just wrong with this thing :) |
| 02:38.49 | hobbs | but the general idea worked out okay. I blame pdaxrom ;) |
| 02:39.33 | wpiku | definitely pdaxrom's fault |
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| 02:59.38 | sean | Has anyone here managed to get the nomachine remote desktop client to work on OZ 3.5.4 or 3.5.3? |
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| 04:56.36 | hobbs | wpiku: still around by any chance? |
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| 07:19.41 | Schmooster | allo there.... |
| 07:19.45 | Schmooster | anyone up & about? |
| 07:20.28 | hobbs | yeah what's up ;) |
| 07:20.49 | Schmooster | how did I guess that'd happen ;) |
| 07:21.15 | Schmooster | well, I'm awaiting delivery over the next few days... |
| 07:21.33 | Schmooster | and was just doublechecking my understanding of ipkg |
| 07:21.58 | Schmooster | can you use the -o modifier to run updates from a local copy? |
| 07:22.08 | Schmooster | just in case the wifi card I got is shot |
| 07:23.41 | Schmooster | i'm guessing that the flash process gives you a very base install - kernel & a bit of env, and that ipkg gets you all the rest,...? |
| 07:24.05 | hobbs | Schmooster: actually a base system includes all of the PIM apps and a decent amount of stuff |
| 07:24.17 | pgas | Schmooster: yeah, a feed is just a directory with a Packages file, you can use a local feed and declare it like the internet feeds using a url like file:///mnt/card/feeds |
| 07:24.26 | Schmooster | sweet |
| 07:24.29 | hobbs | Schmooster: but you can install from a local directory easily enough :) |
| 07:24.40 | Schmooster | life should be fun soon... |
| 07:24.52 | pgas | you can also install package files without a feed (but it will not find dependencies) |
| 07:24.56 | Schmooster | spotted an 8gb cf card for 79£ |
| 07:25.07 | Schmooster | ah, I like my dependency checks |
| 07:25.26 | hobbs | Schmooster: that's pretty cheap. Actually I bought an 8GB microdrive the other day for a similar price |
| 07:25.44 | hobbs | Schmooster: If I could have gotten flash for the same price, though, I would have gone for it |
| 07:25.50 | Schmooster | have you noticed power consumption being a problem? |
| 07:25.55 | hobbs | Schmooster: but now my zaurus is doing a passable iPod impersonation |
| 07:26.01 | Schmooster | sweet :) |
| 07:26.09 | Schmooster | i have a pmp140 for my media |
| 07:26.35 | Schmooster | bit clunky, tho |
| 07:26.45 | hobbs | heh... I first parsed that as being one of the original Rios. they had "PMP" model numbers |
| 07:26.52 | hobbs | then I realized it was an iRiver thingy :) |
| 07:27.03 | Schmooster | ah, no. and yes |
| 07:27.21 | hobbs | that's pretty shiny |
| 07:27.32 | Schmooster | very nice display |
| 07:27.58 | Schmooster | i'm f***ed if i'm getting an iPood :) |
| 07:28.09 | hobbs | Schmooster: anyway, as to battery life... well honestly I don't use this thing quite as much as I thought I would. Not because of any problem with it, but because I'm at home or at work and near a computer most of the time ;) |
| 07:28.28 | Schmooster | good enough reasons |
| 07:28.31 | hobbs | Schmooster: so the only time I ever see a battery low warning is when I turn off the auto-suspend and then leave it running in my pocket |
| 07:28.58 | Schmooster | what's the startup time like, from suspend? |
| 07:29.32 | hobbs | from suspend, about 5 seconds, because the whole system hangs while it reorganizes everything just in case you turned the display on its hinge ;) |
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| 07:29.50 | hobbs | It could be about one second if the script was a bit more intelligent |
| 07:30.15 | Schmooster | nice. I like seeing areas for improvement :) |
| 07:30.45 | hobbs | from a cold start, it depends a lot on what you're running off of and what you've got installed. It takes me a good couple minutes but it used to be faster ;) |
| 07:31.16 | Schmooster | do you use opie or gpe more? |
| 07:32.12 | hobbs | Opie. GPE is nicer to develop for, and has more apps, but it's just not polished yet. Soon, we can hope ;) |
| 07:32.41 | hobbs | X11 was never meant to cope with a system like this, which doesn't help |
| 07:32.55 | Schmooster | true |
| 07:33.37 | Schmooster | again, ta for the info. time to go to work :) |
| 07:33.44 | hobbs | later |
| 07:34.21 | Schmooster | laters, bredda |
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| 08:25.28 | Laibsch | agaffney: That is not always a solution (think essential packages and dependencies) |
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| 08:35.29 | balle | good morning |
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| 08:59.11 | ymc | morning, please someone know i how can play the "F10" key on a terminal ? |
| 09:01.48 | ymc | in keymap it is : "\033[21~" |
| 09:04.38 | pgas | not quite an answer but if you want to access the tmm-menubar you can use M-` (Esc `) |
| 09:12.48 | ymc | pgas: M-ESC ? |
| 09:14.47 | pgas | arg |
| 09:15.01 | pgas | I thought I was in #emacs ;) |
| 09:15.10 | pgas | sorry |
| 09:15.35 | pgas | try Esc (Cancel) followed by Fn+Number |
| 09:15.57 | pgas | Esc Fn+0 for F10 |
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| 09:21.48 | ymc | ok, doesnt work |
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| 09:22.00 | ymc | maybe it's because i'm in a terminal |
| 09:22.13 | ymc | Esc exit the apps |
| 09:26.32 | ymc | oh, it's working :) thx pgas |
| 09:26.55 | ymc | it's esc+fn then Number |
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| 10:28.36 | ymc | when booting with oz-bootsplash how can i return to the console message please ? |
| 10:29.13 | ymc | oh ok, alt-left |
| 10:30.30 | hrw|work | oz-bootsplash... |
| 10:30.38 | hrw|work | I need to find a day and regenerate them |
| 10:30.46 | ymc | ;) |
| 10:30.59 | ymc | hrw, can i skip image while booting ? |
| 10:31.06 | ymc | because i dont see console message |
| 10:31.08 | hrw|work | ymc: bootsplash? |
| 10:31.12 | ymc | yes |
| 10:31.17 | hrw|work | iirc use Fn-Left or Esc |
| 10:31.28 | ymc | oh roxor ! |
| 10:31.31 | ymc | thx hrw :) |
| 10:31.42 | ymc | because if i choose just "no gui" |
| 10:31.49 | ymc | it sleep on the image :) |
| 10:32.03 | ymc | ok cool i have my console |
| 10:32.11 | pgas | ymc problably it's esc then number then I doubt Esc+fn does something |
| 10:32.22 | ymc | fn-left work |
| 10:32.23 | pgas | hi hrw|work |
| 10:32.27 | hrw|work | hi pgas |
| 10:32.50 | hrw|work | ymc: in other words: when you boot to 'no gui' then it end on bootsplash instead of 'login'? |
| 10:33.02 | ymc | yes |
| 10:33.38 | hrw|work | thx |
| 10:33.56 | hrw|work | pgas: 'paid support' thread goes into interesting way |
| 10:34.39 | pgas | yeah, you want my 2cents? ;) |
| 10:35.05 | hrw|work | pgas: go ahead |
| 10:35.26 | pgas | I think you should'nt call it 'paid support' (unless it's something you do for a company) |
| 10:35.45 | pgas | because people will give you far less than what you earn with a real job |
| 10:35.58 | pgas | but will still expect professional quality support |
| 10:36.22 | pgas | bounty is indeed a better name |
| 10:36.22 | ymc | is it possible to have problem booting opie because of some sdl conflict ? |
| 10:36.42 | pgas | (not that people won't complain but still...) |
| 10:38.33 | hrw|work | edited topic |
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| 10:40.24 | pgas | what are you going to give me for the advice? :P |
| 10:42.08 | hrw|work | ? |
| 10:43.25 | pgas | nevermind, it was an attempt to joke about me asking something for my 2 cents |
| 10:43.30 | hrw|work | ah |
| 10:45.45 | hrw|work | brb |
| 10:48.52 | pgas | I'm pretty sure there are some web sites like https://launchpad.net/bounties that can handle a bounty system for OZ |
| 10:50.44 | pgas | launchpad might be usefull for OE/OZ also has it provides services for translation and a kind of meta bug trackers that links other bug trackers or something |
| 10:52.28 | pgas | My only experience with it is reading the about pages though |
| 10:56.18 | ymc | w00w00 |
| 10:57.18 | ymc | @%#~ libpng |
| 11:15.01 | pgas | hrw|work: I have added my 2 cents to the thread |
| 11:15.19 | hrw|work | thx |
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| 13:17.45 | ymc | are you there hrw ? |
| 13:33.27 | hrw|work | I'm |
| 13:38.01 | ymc | :) cool |
| 13:38.40 | ymc | did you know the size of opie's default wallpaper on a z sl-c3200? |
| 13:39.09 | ymc | i dont find the pixmqp |
| 13:39.36 | hrw|work | 640x480 iirc |
| 13:40.09 | hrw|work | opie-background-640x480.jpg JPEG 640x460 DirectClass 17kb |
| 13:40.35 | ymc | nice, thank you ! i will create a wallpaper |
| 13:43.40 | pgas | ymc: you can find a number of 640x480 wallpaper here http://zaurus.spy.org/feeds/jedhead/wallpaper/ |
| 13:44.00 | ymc | fine, thx pgas |
| 13:44.11 | ymc | which did you use ? |
| 13:45.01 | pgas | well either no wallpaper or the one that comes with the installation ;) |
| 13:45.12 | ymc | ok :p |
| 13:45.27 | ymc | me too, i use opie one, but i have to customize different tab :) |
| 13:45.40 | ymc | oh zaurus is beautiful :) |
| 13:46.03 | pgas | I generally don't use or even see the desktop in any platform I use |
| 13:47.57 | ymc | yeh |
| 13:48.16 | pgas | to be honest I have this on my desktop pc http://www.kde-look.org/content/pre3/27417-3.jpg I liked the color theme and also put the background (creamy human for kde) |
| 13:51.16 | ymc | its cool |
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| 13:54.40 | mimecar | hi |
| 13:56.17 | ymc | hello mimecar |
| 14:01.06 | mimecar | hi ymc |
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| 14:13.03 | ymc | bbl |
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| 14:36.47 | poushag | hrw, i previously did fn-left during bootsplash to see terminal - it seems to have removed the bootsplash permanently - is there anouther key combo that will restore it? |
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| 14:45.54 | hrw|work | no |
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| 16:07.46 | flux | does anyone knows how to make right + middle click on OZ (gpe) ? i really didn't find how to :/ |
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| 16:45.22 | mluser-work | Hello everyone.. I'm trying to install opie on my sl-5600 but I cant seem to find zImage.bin-pxa250.. I used the one that is linked from the website, but I keep getting an error on the updater.sh on line 86? |
| 16:48.23 | mluser-work | btw the install kit I'm using is from http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/3.5.4.2-test/rc1/poodle/opie-install.tar.gz |
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| 18:24.17 | sean | Has anyone here managed to get nxclient working with OZ 3.5.3 or 3.5.4? |
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| 18:36.08 | azgor | I need to open a console in a Japanese localized 3200. Anyone know how to do this? |
| 18:41.20 | JustinP | azgor: install the console app? |
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| 18:53.17 | azgor | JustinP: not yet. as I said, it's all in japanese. I was hoping for an alt+F1 or something. Maybe I'll just "restore" the Trisoft ROM as a starting point |
| 18:54.37 | JustinP | azgor: there is no way in the Sharp ROM except to have a console app |
| 18:54.48 | azgor | darn |
| 18:55.24 | azgor | will the trisoft rom restore procedure work for getting openzaurus on to the machine? |
| 19:00.56 | JustinP | I have no idea |
| 19:01.01 | JustinP | try the OZ install procedure |
| 19:04.02 | azgor | JustinP: ok. thanks. |
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| 19:15.19 | mluser-work | Hello everyone.. I'm trying to install opie on my sl-5600 but I can't seem to find zImage.bin-pxa250.. I used the ones in the install kit from http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/3.5.4.2-test/rc1/poodle/opie-install.tar.gz, but I keep getting an error on the updater.sh on line 83. I'm currently have the sharp os installed. |
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| 20:08.17 | hobbs | mluser-work: http://linuxtogo.org/mirror/openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.4/images/poodle/ ? |
| 20:25.12 | mluser-work | hobbs: thanks |
| 20:27.25 | mluser-work | hobbs: what about the updater.sh? All I see there is the md5 file |
| 20:28.27 | hobbs | mluser-work: I've noticed that myself recently. Not sure what the story is |
| 20:28.50 | mluser-work | I wonder if I can get by using the one supplied with the sharp os |
| 20:29.29 | hobbs | feel free to try. AFAIK it doesn't really change |
| 20:29.44 | mluser-work | thanks again |
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| 20:37.34 | jaku | hi, when i try to install the 3.5.4.2 RC1 released in collie 5500 i see this: No space left on device... what i have to do? before I read that i' running the wrong kernel |
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| 20:43.42 | mimecar | hi |
| 20:46.04 | hrw | hi |
| 20:46.20 | mimecar | evening hrw |
| 20:46.38 | hrw | jaku: known bug - i need to find time to find what to remove and then will release rc2 (which owkrs ok on poodle and tosa) |
| 20:46.57 | hrw | mluser-work: rc1 updater.sh should be ok |
| 20:47.32 | jaku | hrw, ok tks.. :) np |
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| 20:55.47 | mluser-work | hrw: thanks.. I'm trying it again as we speak :) |
| 20:56.26 | hrw | i need to create minimal-opir-image for collie and release rc2 finally... |
| 20:56.48 | hrw | s/opir/opie |
| 20:57.32 | hrw | Im curious how 3542rc work on pxa255 poodle.. |
| 20:57.41 | hrw | have pxa250 one... |
| 20:58.20 | mimecar | pxa255 poodle ? |
| 20:58.27 | hrw | mimecar: yes |
| 20:58.37 | hrw | they exist |
| 20:58.50 | mimecar | poodle is the code name of a zaurus, isn't it ? |
| 20:58.57 | hrw | ~poodle |
| 20:59.06 | ibot | hmm... poodle is sharp sl-b500/5600, or a dog |
| 20:59.17 | jaku | :) |
| 20:59.22 | mimecar | xDDD |
| 20:59.29 | mimecar | ~windows |
| 20:59.32 | ibot | methinks windows is a 32 bit hack on a 16 bit operating system, originally designed for an 8 bit CPU, with a 4 bit system bus, made by a 2 bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition... or the World of Warcraft bootloader, or the most important collection of bugs |
| 20:59.40 | hrw | ibot: no, poodle is sl-5600/b500, or a dog |
| 20:59.41 | ibot | okay, hrw |
| 20:59.44 | mimecar | xDDDD |
| 20:59.51 | mimecar | world of warcraft ???? |
| 20:59.56 | mimecar | who insert the description ? |
| 21:00.06 | hrw | ~factinfo windows |
| 21:00.06 | ibot | windows -- last modified at Sun Feb 12 15:12:02 2006 by dererk!n=Elive_@unaffiliated/dererk; it has been requested 33 times, last by mimecar, 35s ago. |
| 21:00.25 | mimecar | xDDDDD |
| 21:00.27 | hrw | ~weather eppo |
| 21:00.49 | mimecar | ~weather valencia |
| 21:01.03 | mimecar | xDDDDD, valencia doesn't exist :P |
| 21:02.14 | hrw | cu |
| 21:02.33 | hobbs | ~weather LEVC |
| 21:02.58 | hobbs | pretty nice |
| 21:04.05 | hobbs | ~weather KMDW |
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| 21:06.22 | mimecar | interesting |
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| 22:25.08 | hvontres|poodle | ~weather SNA |
| 23:00.46 | wpiku | evening folks |
| 23:17.58 | flux | evening wpiku :) |
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