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| 01:07.54 | Afr0_Style | Hi, somebody has installed rubygems on OZ? |
| 01:08.51 | Afr0_Style | I've the following error: No such file to load -- zlib (LoadError) |
| 01:11.21 | Afr0_Style | there isn'n a /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/arm-linux/zlib.so :( |
| 01:40.57 | nil | yo! |
| 01:42.02 | nil | I'm wondering, how can I have the zaurus behave as an external harddisk with openzaurus? |
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| 02:46.29 | danphill | wow! nobody here? |
| 03:06.52 | Necronom | nil; take a look at USB gadget support. |
| 03:07.15 | Necronom | IIRC, there is support in the kernel for file-backed-gadget support. |
| 03:07.25 | Necronom | Otherwise, you might be better off setting up samba. |
| 03:39.36 | tanq | so my 2GB sd card came in today |
| 03:39.37 | tanq | so.. |
| 03:39.37 | tanq | now to attempt altboot on the 3.5.4.2-test images |
| 03:39.37 | tanq | any suggestions on how to partition a 2GB sd card for a poodle 5600 w/ altboot? |
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| 03:54.17 | tanq | which device is the sd card again. |
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| 04:05.20 | tanq | I think that 2GB might be too much for a poodle |
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| 04:16.31 | tanq | bleh.. |
| 04:17.21 | tanq | the 3.5.4.2 poodle images complain about expecting the RC0 kernel and it has RC1 which is no big deal since it is RC, but I'd hate to wait a minute every time i boot. |
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| 04:31.38 | tanq | hrmm |
| 04:38.00 | tanq | man i don't even know what the bug is here.. |
| 04:48.18 | JustinP | tanq: just change or delete /etc/init.d/checkversion |
| 04:50.08 | tanq | ok.. |
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| 06:46.52 | Schmooster | hmmm. |
| 06:47.00 | Schmooster | I've got it stuck in enlightenment now |
| 06:47.56 | hobbs | There are worse things than eternal enlightenment, no? |
| 06:48.06 | Schmooster | definately :) |
| 06:48.36 | Schmooster | it is my mode of choice... |
| 06:48.52 | Schmooster | but i can't flick back to matchbox |
| 06:49.15 | Schmooster | time to go trawling through /etc |
| 06:50.03 | Schmooster | hobbs, this is a great little device....ta for all he help :) |
| 06:50.12 | Schmooster | s/he/the |
| 06:50.14 | hobbs | no problem at all, glad you're happy with it |
| 06:50.25 | Schmooster | very muchly |
| 06:51.25 | Schmooster | it has better specs than my first 3 pc's :D |
| 06:52.05 | hobbs | haha |
| 06:52.16 | hobbs | yeah, same here, pretty much |
| 06:53.36 | hobbs | It might be on a par with #3, but probably still ahead of that -- not quite sure how XScale MHz compare to original Pentium MHz (you have the issues of different IPS, as well as different amounts of "work done" per instruction. Hard to quantify :) |
| 06:53.43 | hobbs | s/IPS/IPC/ |
| 06:53.48 | hobbs | stupid bot |
| 06:53.53 | Schmooster | hehe |
| 06:54.11 | hobbs | and unlike purl it doesn't even have the decency to say it's sorry ;) |
| 06:54.24 | Schmooster | should pull out some old boxen & run benchmarks |
| 06:55.40 | Schmooster | not that I still have those machines lying around anymore |
| 06:55.47 | hobbs | what I _do_ know is that the akita doesn't run DOSBox fast enough to play Jill of the Jungle ;) |
| 06:56.06 | Schmooster | hehe shame :/ |
| 06:58.43 | hobbs | I tried getting qemu running on it once, but qemu's arm host support is busted |
| 06:58.53 | hobbs | or at least, it was a couple months ago |
| 07:01.55 | Schmooster | i'm looking forward to trying the scummvm |
| 07:02.40 | Schmooster | i've got sam n max & monkey island 1 & 2 here to run |
| 07:02.43 | hobbs | how appropriate, you fight like a cow! |
| 07:02.57 | Schmooster | hahaha |
| 07:03.19 | Schmooster | gtg work time |
| 07:03.23 | Schmooster | catchya later :) |
| 07:03.25 | hobbs | later |
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| 07:08.49 | hrw | ~change 121 pln to eur |
| 07:09.53 | Kevin` | where can I get ethereal for OZ (3200)? |
| 07:10.23 | hrw | we do not have it in oz yet |
| 07:10.43 | hrw | but I will build it later |
| 07:11.06 | Kevin` | :) |
| 07:11.24 | Kevin` | I guess i'll ask the same thing tomorrow then |
| 07:13.58 | hrw | tomorrow you will be able to do "ipkg update;ipkg install ethereal" :D |
| 07:14.16 | hobbs | or rather WIRE SHARKS ON A PLANE |
| 07:20.15 | hrw | ethereal 0.10.13 is building |
| 07:21.23 | hrw | Kevin`: next time use http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/fb for checking available packages. (service is now updating list of packages) |
| 07:21.34 | hrw | update take ~8 minutes |
| 07:22.53 | hobbs | wow, that's impressively slow |
| 07:23.11 | hrw|gone | hobbs: not optimized php code |
| 07:23.18 | hobbs | heh |
| 07:23.22 | hobbs | like there was ever good PHP code ;) |
| 07:23.35 | hrw|gone | even php code can be improved |
| 07:23.49 | hrw|gone | and I work as php programmer ;D |
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| 07:24.13 | Kevin` | how hard do you think it would be to add usb-ip support to OZ's gadget stuff (think remotely using a usb device over ip on windows, with a usb cable) |
| 07:25.26 | hobbs | Kevin`: doesn't sound like it would be a job for gadget. You'd just need a dummy host controller driver that interfaced back to userspace (in a similar manner to tap/tun or fuse) |
| 07:25.41 | pgas | Kevin`: it works with the 7x0, and with the 1000/3x000 and linux |
| 07:25.57 | pgas | but not with 1000/3x000 and windows |
| 07:26.21 | pgas | using the g_ether module |
| 07:26.29 | Kevin` | well what I want to be able to do, is provide access to a usb-ip device over usb |
| 07:26.47 | Kevin` | not just use one from linux |
| 07:27.04 | hobbs | Kevin`: you're being really confusing ;) |
| 07:27.20 | hobbs | Kevin`: try again in english. |
| 07:27.25 | Kevin` | :/ |
| 07:27.34 | pgas | I think I don't understand eithr... |
| 07:27.39 | hobbs | what is doing what to what with what? |
| 07:27.45 | pgas | what's a usb-ip device? |
| 07:28.15 | hobbs | that too |
| 07:28.19 | Kevin` | pgas usb over ip.. lets you use a usb device remotely over the internet, linux only thing |
| 07:29.16 | Kevin` | i'm wondering how hard it would be to translate that back into native usb.. |
| 07:29.20 | hobbs | Kevin`: oh, so you want the zaurus to act as device (using gadget), and then forward any requests it gets over IP to a remote USB device? |
| 07:29.27 | hrw|gone | Packaged contents of ethereal into /home/hrw/devel/build/3541/tmp/deploy/ipk/ethereal_0.10.13-r0_arm.ipk |
| 07:29.30 | Kevin` | yes |
| 07:30.04 | hrw|gone | Kevin`: do "ipkg update;ipkg install ethereal" :D |
| 07:30.08 | Kevin` | :D |
| 07:30.16 | hrw|gone | cu |
| 07:30.35 | hobbs | Kevin`: mmm, probably not a whole lot of work actually :) |
| 07:30.45 | Kevin` | hobbs that's what I was thinking :) |
| 07:43.30 | pgas | hmm, I don't grok how it could work |
| 07:56.09 | hrw|work | re |
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| 09:53.20 | Kevin` | root@spitz:~# gcc -o hi hi.c |
| 09:53.21 | Kevin` | usr/lib/gcc/arm-linux/3.4.4/../../../../arm-linux/bin/ld: crt1.o: No such file: No such file or directory |
| 09:53.31 | Kevin` | howbethis? |
| 09:54.44 | hrw|work | ipkg install libc6-dev? |
| 09:58.41 | Kevin` | http://kwzs.be/pb1.txt |
| 09:59.01 | hrw|work | shit.. I have to dig it finally |
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| 09:59.29 | Kevin` | eh? |
| 10:05.28 | Kevin` | any ideas hrw|work ? |
| 10:06.13 | hrw|work | iirc vi /lib/libc6.so and remove AS_NEEDED |
| 10:06.24 | hrw|work | I have to find time to resolve this automatically |
| 10:07.14 | Kevin` | no such file |
| 10:07.26 | Kevin` | there is libc.so.6, which appears binary |
| 10:07.40 | hrw|work | there was one there |
| 10:08.31 | hrw|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:08.35 | hrw|work | from libc6-dev |
| 10:08.58 | hrw|work | can you test one thing for me? (related to this problem) |
| 10:09.05 | Kevin` | sure.. |
| 10:09.23 | hrw|work | I will build binutils 2.16 (newer then OZ one) and give you to test |
| 10:12.09 | Kevin` | GROUP ( /lib/libc.so.6 /usr/lib/libc_nonshared.a AS_NEEDED ( /lib/ld-linux.so.2 ) ) |
| 10:12.15 | Kevin` | just remove "AS_NEEDED" there? |
| 10:12.41 | hrw|work | leave it for now |
| 10:12.56 | hrw|work | I want to know does 2.16 binutils will work with it |
| 10:13.04 | hrw|work | if it will then I will provide 2.16 for OZ |
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| 10:14.45 | hrw|work | http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/t/binutils/ contain binutils 2.16 |
| 10:14.59 | hrw|work | Kevin`: download and install it and then try to build something |
| 10:16.00 | CoreDump|home | morning |
| 10:18.49 | hrw|work | Kevin`: and? |
| 10:18.53 | Kevin` | build succeeds |
| 10:19.06 | Kevin` | took a while to install ya know |
| 10:19.25 | hrw|work | it builds without changing libc.so? |
| 10:19.26 | Kevin` | I just did a very short C program |
| 10:19.29 | Kevin` | yes |
| 10:19.35 | hrw|work | Kevin`: app runs? |
| 10:19.43 | Kevin` | yes |
| 10:19.47 | hrw|work | THX a lot |
| 10:20.07 | Kevin` | one more thing.. |
| 10:20.12 | Kevin` | what do I need to use a usb cdrom |
| 10:20.44 | hrw|work | modprobe ohci-hcd;modprobe usb-storage |
| 10:20.53 | hrw|work | do not remember now what more |
| 10:21.36 | Kevin` | I thought it might need sr_mod, but I don't have that :/ |
| 10:22.43 | hrw|work | http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/fb/?action=details&pnm=kernel-module-sr-mod |
| 10:22.49 | Kevin` | ya, it detects the cd, but.. oooh |
| 10:22.49 | hrw|work | ipkg install kernel-module-sr-mod |
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| 11:04.28 | lardman | Whoa, that was a lot of reading posts on oesf |
| 11:04.56 | lardman | serves me right for going on holiday I suppose |
| 11:05.49 | hrw|work | hi lardman |
| 11:05.54 | hrw|work | long time no see |
| 11:09.10 | lardman | hi hrw|work |
| 11:09.23 | lardman | I've been away for work, then holiday |
| 11:11.03 | hrw|work | enjoyed holidays? |
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| 11:24.24 | lardman | hrw|work: Yes, it's been nice to get away from a computer - my typing is awful now! |
| 11:24.41 | hrw|work | ;D |
| 11:25.00 | hrw|work | lardman: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/fb/ is something which you should see |
| 11:25.38 | lardman | ~lart my keyboard for having a rubbish ctrl key |
| 11:25.41 | pgas | lardman: why did you buy a Zaurus if not for being able to always be near a computer? ;) |
| 11:25.55 | lardman | hrw|work: Nice :) |
| 11:26.18 | lardman | pgas: Indeed, gf would have killed me though if I'd just ignored her and played with my Z |
| 11:26.33 | lardman | no secret meaning there btw ;) |
| 11:27.40 | pgas | ehe yes, you need a laptop for this. "I'll take the laptop" -no "the zaurus?" |
| 11:28.02 | lardman | Silly me, I didn't realise that today is a holiday (at the uni where I work) |
| 11:29.34 | lardman | Back tomorrow, have a nice day (at work ;) ) everyone |
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| 11:59.45 | flux | hrw|work: thx for binutils 2.16 :) |
| 12:00.17 | flux | (and for all of course ;) ) |
| 12:01.37 | hrw|work | np - I'm happy that finally got it solved |
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| 12:28.53 | tanq | ok so if i am using 3.5.4.2-rc1 can i still use the feeds from 3.5.4.1? |
| 12:29.14 | hrw|work | yes |
| 12:29.25 | hrw|work | 3.5.4.1 feeds are default |
| 12:29.41 | hrw|work | and will be default even after 3.5.4.2 release |
| 12:30.09 | tanq | i see that altboot is part of the distribution now.. |
| 12:30.16 | hrw|work | 3.5.4.2 will have same feeds as 3.5.4.2-rc |
| 12:30.25 | hrw|work | tanq: it is since 3.5.4.1 |
| 12:30.34 | tanq | i must have been using 3.5.4 |
| 12:30.57 | tanq | was there a poodle release for 3.5.4.1? |
| 12:31.01 | hrw|work | no |
| 12:31.01 | tanq | i must have missed it. |
| 12:31.09 | hrw|work | 3.5.4 = collie, poodle, tosa, c7x0 |
| 12:31.16 | hrw|work | 3.5.4.1 = akita, spitz, c7x0 |
| 12:31.23 | tanq | ahh I have a poodle. |
| 12:31.25 | hrw|work | 3.5.4.2 = poodle, tosa, (collie) |
| 12:31.36 | tanq | i'm using the 3.5.4.2-rc1 images right now. |
| 12:31.37 | hrw|work | I have one poodle at home |
| 12:32.27 | tanq | my 2GB sd card came in yesterday. wahoo. |
| 12:32.40 | tanq | in the iterim of shipping i saw a 4GB sd card for $20 more.. |
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| 12:33.52 | tanq | i guess i'll save the opie/gpe alternation for tonight. |
| 12:35.16 | tanq | oh... hrw|work do you have any recommendations for partition a 2GB sd card? Should I run the entire thing from sd? are there any benefits? or does altboot only run from loopback images? |
| 12:35.44 | hrw|work | altboot can pivot to sd |
| 12:36.33 | tanq | but you always have to have the base system on the zaurus itself, right? |
| 12:37.12 | hrw|work | you can build kernel which will boot directly from sd |
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| 16:41.29 | YoG | ok, after installing also lib6-dev I am able to compile helloWorld.c... what do I need to do (if it is possible at all) to be able to nateviely compile apps for opie (with gui and everything)? |
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| 18:14.14 | *** topic/#openzaurus is OpenZaurus user discussion/support channel | developer discussion in #oe | http://www.openzaurus.org/ | Don't ask to ask, just ask. | Current release: 3.5.4/3.5.4.1 | Report OZ bugs at http://bugs.openembedded.org/ | Feed browser: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/fb/ |
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| 19:03.47 | flux | ls -l /tmp -> /var/tmp |
| 19:04.20 | flux | ls -l /var/tmp drwxr-xr-x -> usually, /tmp is umask 000 |
| 19:04.56 | flux | may i change it on OZ without security risk (cause of one program i wouldn't know about on OZ) |
| 19:05.27 | flux | because my $USER need to write on /tmp for opening a screen, or for ./configure and else... |
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| 19:45.43 | hvontres|poodle | ~seen CoreDump|afk |
| 19:46.24 | ibot | coredump|afk is currently on #gpe #oe #openzaurus, last said: 'RP: any news on pxa270 cpu frequency scaling or the fb speed hacks?'. |
| 20:13.01 | Schmooster | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:13.08 | Schmooster | d'oh! |
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| 20:28.15 | mimecar | evening |
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| 20:43.18 | Necronom | Hrm. Is firefox 1.5.0.6 faster than 1.0.6? |
| 20:44.13 | Necronom | (on spitz) |
| 20:53.58 | mimecar | Necronom: no idea, I only have a collir |
| 20:54.01 | mimecar | collie |
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| 23:00.12 | nanderson | hello |
| 23:00.25 | nanderson | does anyone know of a non-protruding cf wireless card? |
| 23:26.28 | joshin | nanderson, I don't but I wouldn't expect much range from one. |
| 23:29.58 | nanderson | i just find it so akward to hold my z with a wifi card in |
| 23:30.57 | nanderson | i basically never use it in portrait mode |
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