| 00:00.31 | wsuetholz | bye for now.. |
| 00:03.05 | joshin | and a bit faster processor |
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| 01:10.07 | hvontres|poodle | ~lart BGA chips for being a bitch to replace |
| 01:10.26 | hvontres|poodle | ~nuke BGA chips for being a bitch to replace |
| 01:10.27 | ibot | ACTION prepares 100 missle silos, and targets them at BGA chips for being a bitch to replace ... B☢☢M! |
| 01:12.10 | Laibsch | ~poodle |
| 01:12.11 | ibot | i guess poodle is sl-5600/b500, or a dog |
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| 01:17.55 | hvontres|poodle | Laibsch: Just lamenting the limited options for my poor SL-5600 with 32MB of Ram :( |
| 01:18.45 | Laibsch | Yes, that is what I figured since it seemed like a step back from the collie (except for more CPU which is not so important for me) |
| 01:18.55 | Laibsch | I did like my collie. |
| 01:19.17 | Laibsch | Except for no 2.6 kernel and no more than 1G SD. |
| 01:22.36 | hvontres|poodle | Laibsch: Actually, the main reason I got my poodle was that a guy at work sold it to me for $150 a year or two ago. :) |
| 01:23.00 | Laibsch | Good reason. |
| 01:23.12 | Laibsch | I bought my collie for 200$ at about that time. |
| 01:23.30 | Laibsch | It was new. |
| 01:23.46 | Laibsch | And I am quite perplexed they sell for about that kind of money USED. |
| 01:24.10 | hvontres|poodle | And running Opie is actually not that bad. The problem is that GPE currently is a pain. And Opie seems to have lost favor :( |
| 01:26.39 | Laibsch | Well, I am amazed that I can get the C1000 straight from Japan for not much more than I paid for the collie. |
| 01:26.39 | Laibsch | I am beginning to warm to the idea. |
| 01:26.48 | Laibsch | But now I will have to get some sleep. |
| 01:26.49 | Laibsch | Later |
| 01:26.52 | Laibsch | (S) |
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| 01:30.27 | axology_ | Anyone familiar with fbvncserver I get it orking ok however I am unable to get mouse clicks to work on the zaurus via the desktop vncviewer. Any insight? |
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| 04:59.03 | cdbot | hvontres|poodle: Don't know, don't care |
| 04:59.23 | hvontres|poodle | ~ |
| 04:59.32 | hvontres|poodle | ~botmail check |
| 04:59.43 | hvontres|poodle | !lart ibot |
| 04:59.55 | hvontres|poodle | ~lart cdbot |
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| 08:27.12 | hrw|work | morning |
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| 09:24.28 | CoreDump|home | morning |
| 09:30.43 | CoreDump|home | hrw|work: you hardwire 3.5.4.2 to kernel 2.6 for all machines (including collie). Is that intended? |
| 09:34.44 | hrw|work | yes |
| 09:34.49 | hrw|work | 3.5.4.2 is 2.6 only releas |
| 09:34.51 | hrw|work | e |
| 09:34.59 | hrw|work | poodle/2.6, tosa/2.6 are working nice |
| 09:35.05 | hrw|work | collie/2.6 is experimental |
| 09:35.22 | CoreDump|home | i c |
| 09:35.27 | CoreDump|home | just checking |
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| 10:52.22 | DataBeaver | Can I find ifplugd for OZ 3.5.4.1 in some feed? |
| 10:53.51 | hrw|work | feed browser url is in channel topic |
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| 11:20.30 | ade|desk | is there a good ogg/mp3 gui for gpe ? |
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| 13:19.40 | PolicyBased | hi |
| 13:20.50 | PolicyBased | I have a qtopia core application on my zaurus. When I turn back my zaurus from the suspend mode, it doesn't update the whole screen. |
| 13:21.15 | PolicyBased | I don't know if this is the problem of the zaurus or if there is the problem of qtopia core |
| 13:21.49 | PolicyBased | my app it isn't, because I have tested also an example app from qt. And there it was the same |
| 13:23.12 | hrw|work | which qtopia core? |
| 13:23.22 | PolicyBased | qtopia core 4.1.4 |
| 13:25.50 | hrw|work | I suspect qt/e code |
| 13:25.59 | hrw|work | s+qt/e+qtopia core |
| 13:27.30 | PolicyBased | I don't have qt/e just qtopia core |
| 13:27.53 | hrw|work | qtopia core is new name for qt/e |
| 13:28.45 | PolicyBased | So I will write to qt |
| 13:28.49 | hrw|work | "Since Qt 4.1.x is released the Qt/Embedded is rename into Qtopia family (Core, Phone, PDA version)." |
| 13:28.50 | PolicyBased | thanks |
| 13:28.53 | hrw|work | np |
| 13:29.01 | PolicyBased | yes I know |
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| 13:50.51 | flux | hello :) |
| 13:50.54 | hrw|work | ho |
| 13:51.58 | flux | hrw|work: there isn't "openbsd39_arm.ipk" in feeds, is it ? |
| 13:52.32 | hrw|work | there is not |
| 13:52.49 | flux | ok |
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| 14:29.32 | flux | hum... openbsd on zaurus, i'll see it another time. |
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| 14:35.12 | hrw|work | you have c3x00? |
| 14:39.43 | flux | yes, borzoi |
| 14:40.10 | flux | but it looks like i need to have cacko, and that i can't dual-boot OZ-obsd... |
| 14:40.54 | flux | and as i want OZ... , want to understand bitbake and "all"... |
| 14:41.05 | flux | obsd will wait |
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| 14:56.33 | mimecar | hi |
| 15:03.35 | flux | hola |
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| 16:28.04 | flux | i installed "bootstrap" in order to have a "minimal" system. i then installed xserver-common xbase-clients fluxbox-gpe . |
| 16:28.51 | flux | but i don't know if i miss package to startx... if no, do someone know the cmd to startx ? if yes, which package i would need ? |
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| 17:00.55 | flux | may someone give me the output of : ipkg files Xfbdev please ? |
| 17:02.08 | flux | i'm looking for the package which provides Xfbdev, in order to have a X server... |
| 17:02.24 | mimecar | what ROM are you using ? |
| 17:02.40 | flux | OZ bootstrap |
| 17:03.17 | mimecar | why don't you use GPE? |
| 17:03.22 | mimecar | it has a X server |
| 17:04.06 | flux | i know, but it's too heavy for what i'm doing (it's a little complicated) |
| 17:04.13 | mimecar | xDD |
| 17:04.21 | mimecar | what's your zaurus model ? |
| 17:04.39 | flux | c3100 |
| 17:04.43 | mimecar | ok |
| 17:05.51 | flux | mimecar: if you're using GPE... you could tell me which package provides Xfbdev please ? |
| 17:06.27 | mimecar | I can't connect to internet with zaurus now |
| 17:06.41 | mimecar | I'll be able to check it tomorrow |
| 17:07.43 | flux | why would you have to connect to internet ? |
| 17:08.03 | mimecar | for installing packages |
| 17:08.15 | mimecar | wait |
| 17:08.35 | flux | if you have GPE, you should allready have this package |
| 17:09.13 | mimecar | with the command you inserted before |
| 17:09.19 | mimecar | collected errors |
| 17:09.30 | mimecar | package xfbdev not installed |
| 17:09.42 | flux | Xfbdev |
| 17:09.48 | flux | same answer ? |
| 17:09.53 | mimecar | yes |
| 17:10.09 | flux | :/ |
| 17:10.24 | flux | ps ux | grep X .... |
| 17:11.16 | flux | does it tells you which cmd runs for X ? and the one it tells you, could you make an "ipkg files "answer ps ux" ? |
| 17:11.23 | mimecar | Xfbdev us ib tge process ilst |
| 17:11.35 | mimecar | waht ??? |
| 17:12.05 | flux | hum... |
| 17:12.30 | flux | ps ux | grep X --> should tells you the name of the command that is running for X |
| 17:12.40 | hobbs | flux: you've got it a bit backwards ;) |
| 17:12.43 | mimecar | Xfbdev... |
| 17:12.53 | hobbs | flux: ipkg files tells you what files a given package provides, not the other way around :) |
| 17:13.04 | flux | hobbs: ah ! :/ |
| 17:13.11 | flux | mimecar: sorry for the lost time :( |
| 17:13.19 | mimecar | don't worry |
| 17:13.27 | Kevin` | now do I type a left apostrophe? |
| 17:13.35 | Kevin` | how* |
| 17:13.44 | flux | hobbs: do you know which package provides Xfbdev ? |
| 17:13.46 | hobbs | Kevin`: there's only one kind of apostrope |
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| 17:14.01 | Kevin` | hobbs like the one after my nick |
| 17:14.21 | mimecar | flux: did you test ipkgfind ? |
| 17:14.32 | flux | Kevin`: xmodmap -> change map, or use the virtual keyboard |
| 17:14.39 | hobbs | Kevin`: that's a backtick/backquote/accent-grave :) |
| 17:14.47 | Kevin` | theres no default key for it? |
| 17:14.53 | flux | Kevin`: if it's for use in a script, you'd better write : $( cmd ) |
| 17:15.07 | mimecar | hobbs: can you resume the concept with less word :P |
| 17:15.09 | hobbs | flux: signs point to 'xserver-kdrive'fbdev' |
| 17:15.21 | hobbs | whoops |
| 17:15.24 | hobbs | xserver-kdrive-fbdev |
| 17:15.46 | flux | hobbs: thank you :) |
| 17:16.08 | Kevin` | what is the char/key called in the keymap |
| 17:16.48 | flux | hobbs: in which feed is it ? i can't find it in 3.5.4.1/x11 |
| 17:16.58 | hobbs | flux: it's there |
| 17:17.05 | Kevin` | brb :/ |
| 17:17.30 | flux | ? am i blind ? i only can see xserver-common :/ |
| 17:18.54 | hobbs | flux: oh, it's actually in feed/machine/foo/ |
| 17:19.38 | hvontres|poodle | flux: try this :http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/fb/?name=xserver&action=search |
| 17:19.41 | flux | oh, in machine... |
| 17:20.47 | flux | hvontres|poodle: hum, it tells me that it is in x11/base ... |
| 17:20.55 | hobbs | that's the section |
| 17:21.06 | hobbs | which is not the same as the actual directory in which it can be found ;) |
| 17:21.11 | hobbs | but there are also download links there ;) |
| 17:22.16 | flux | ok :) |
| 17:24.57 | Kevin` | ok, whats the name of that symbol so I can put it into the keymap (keymap-2.6.map?) |
| 17:26.39 | flux | Kevin`: grave |
| 17:27.39 | Kevin` | what files does it need to be added to (for console and X) |
| 17:27.50 | flux | ok, thanks a lot !!! X works :) |
| 17:28.05 | flux | Kevin`: man xmodmap ... |
| 17:28.15 | flux | xmodmap -pke >> your-keymap |
| 17:28.27 | flux | vi your-keymap --> make your changes |
| 17:28.33 | flux | xmodmap your-keymap |
| 17:28.51 | Kevin` | where is it loaded from on boot.. |
| 17:29.09 | Kevin` | man: not found |
| 17:29.11 | Kevin` | heh |
| 17:29.12 | flux | look in /etc/rcS.d/* |
| 17:29.23 | flux | Kevin`: no "man" on OZ... |
| 17:29.39 | flux | but you can find all manpages on internet |
| 17:30.26 | Kevin` | there isnt an xmodmap command in those files |
| 17:32.05 | flux | just ovewrite the existant map with the command i told you |
| 17:32.33 | Kevin` | well I dont know whee that file or files is for sure |
| 17:33.26 | flux | i told you ... xmodmap -pke (........) |
| 17:33.43 | Kevin` | overwrite WHAT file |
| 17:34.14 | Kevin` | and I might as well edit by hand then, if I know it |
| 17:35.08 | flux | akita.map ... but it isn't complete the "begin" is elsewhere, but i didn't checked. i just make my own keymap as i told you. |
| 17:35.51 | flux | (akita.map for me... c3100 ... i don't know your model, so the name of your map) |
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| 17:37.00 | Kevin` | well I need to find it so it loads on boot :) |
| 17:37.10 | Kevin` | I have a 3200 |
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| 21:15.32 | Pimpinella | hi |
| 21:16.15 | Pimpinella | will sd-slot wifi-cards work in a zaurus sl-5500? |
| 21:19.37 | hvontres|poodle | Pimpinella:No. 1) The hardware does not support it. |
| 21:20.01 | hvontres|poodle | 2) Getting OpenSource SDIO drivers is nearly impossible |
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| 21:24.38 | Pimpinella | hvontres|poodle: ok, ty |
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| 21:34.54 | starkruzr | hi folks. Where is your $PATH set under OZ 3.5.4.1? I'm looking for a .bashrc but there doesn't seem to be one. |
| 21:35.05 | starkruzr | It'snot in .profile either. |
| 21:42.49 | flux | starkruzr: your shell is "sh", not bash on OZ 3.5.4.1 |
| 21:43.38 | CoreDump|home | hi |
| 21:43.46 | starkruzr | that doesn't really help me as there's no .shrc either :) |
| 21:43.58 | starkruzr | it's getting a path from somewhere. just can't figure out where. |
| 21:44.21 | flux | don't know in fact :( sorry |
| 21:44.45 | starkruzr | it's actually not even "sh" of course, it's really busybox. |
| 21:45.17 | CoreDump|home | starkruzr: /etc/profile.d/* IIRC |
| 21:46.41 | starkruzr | ah, excellent. |
| 21:46.44 | starkruzr | thanks. |
| 21:46.52 | CoreDump|home | np |
| 21:47.29 | starkruzr | well |
| 21:47.30 | starkruzr | nope, that' snot it :) |
| 21:49.46 | CoreDump|home | /etc/profile and friends |
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| 21:50.26 | CoreDump|home | /etc/profile.d messes with PATH quite a bit |
| 21:52.10 | starkruzr | aha! |
| 21:52.33 | Pimpinella | is there a CF wifi card with prism chipset thats stll produced today or do i have to relay on 2nd hand hardware? |
| 21:54.14 | starkruzr | that did it. Thanks CD. |
| 21:54.44 | starkruzr | Pimpi: Don't think so. Is that the only supported chipset these days? |
| 21:55.27 | Pimpinella | starkruzr: it?s probably the one supprted best |
| 21:55.37 | starkruzr | I do just fine with hostap, just so you know |
| 21:56.04 | Pimpinella | starkruzr: ty, i?ll have a look on that |
| 21:56.22 | starkruzr | someone is not using the keyboard they are accustomed to :p |
| 22:03.19 | CoreDump|home | starkruzr: you're welcome |
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