| 00:03.35 | summatusmentis | anyone know if the segfaults in gpe-irc have been fixed? |
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| 03:47.12 | Kevin` | anyone have an snes emulator working? |
| 03:51.29 | Kevin` | snex9x wont work :( |
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| 05:59.15 | ceruleantiger | I'm having trouble getting my sl-6000l connected to my wireless network. I have no key set up, and it says it's connected, but I cannot even browse google.com |
| 05:59.30 | ceruleantiger | this seems to be the first step in getting openzaurus on there... so this is kind of critical... |
| 05:59.54 | ceruleantiger | (just got my sl-6000l today - happy noob!) |
| 06:00.28 | pgas | can you ping your router? |
| 06:00.34 | ceruleantiger | no |
| 06:00.51 | ceruleantiger | btw, I should mention I'm using the default OS install on there, no mods (yet) |
| 06:01.16 | ceruleantiger | oh, actually I can't ping my desktop... did not try my router :P |
| 06:01.37 | pgas | ehe ifconfig shows something? |
| 06:02.06 | Kevin` | where can I find an iptables kernel module(s).. it doesnt seem to be listed |
| 06:02.47 | ceruleantiger | yeah, I can't ping the router |
| 06:03.04 | ceruleantiger | ifconfig says that I have 192.168.0.101 assigned to me though... which is really odd |
| 06:03.27 | pgas | try the cacko feed http://bryandeluca.com/cacko/feed/ |
| 06:03.30 | ceruleantiger | when I ping my zaurus from my desktop, it says that it's unreachable |
| 06:03.39 | pgas | i believe you want the 2.4.18 kernel modules |
| 06:03.50 | pgas | the default gw is correctly set? |
| 06:03.59 | Kevin` | I have 2.6.16.. |
| 06:04.37 | pgas | you got the ip from dhcp? |
| 06:04.42 | Kevin` | i'd just recompile everything myself the way I want but OE is confuging |
| 06:04.43 | ceruleantiger | incidentally, is there any way to do a ctrl-C? It's really annoying to keep restarting terminal just because my ping won't respond... (There doesn't seem to be a ctrl character?) |
| 06:04.47 | Kevin` | confusing* |
| 06:05.26 | pgas | Kevin`: sorry, I confused you with ceruleantiger |
| 06:05.27 | ceruleantiger | pgas: yeah, so it seems... I got 192.168.0.101 according to the zaurus |
| 06:05.54 | ceruleantiger | pgas: but I cannot actually do anything. I can't even ping google |
| 06:06.14 | pgas | Kevin`: what zaurus? on the clamshell Ctrl is the left japanese key (well on my 860 that is) |
| 06:06.32 | Kevin` | pgas sl-c3200 |
| 06:06.49 | pgas | ceruleantiger: do you have a default gw? route add default gw 192.168.0.1 or something |
| 06:06.55 | ceruleantiger | pgas: actually it was me asking :P |
| 06:07.02 | pgas | you have a dns set in /etc/resolv.conf ? |
| 06:07.21 | ceruleantiger | what's gw? |
| 06:07.30 | Kevin` | very odd that dhcp would work but lan traffic not |
| 06:07.35 | pgas | ceruleantiger: I answered about iptable to you and Kevin` asked |
| 06:07.40 | ceruleantiger | I should mention, networking is not my forte |
| 06:07.42 | pgas | ceruleantiger: gateway |
| 06:07.45 | Kevin` | ceruleantiger paste route -n |
| 06:08.17 | Kevin` | or decribe it |
| 06:08.26 | pgas | Kevin`: I believe iptable should be in one of the Oz feeds something like kernel modules |
| 06:08.50 | Kevin` | pgas url for looking? |
| 06:09.28 | pgas | www.openzaurus.org -> download etc.. what release do you have? |
| 06:09.49 | Kevin` | pgas um.. can I check from software? I forget |
| 06:09.58 | pgas | dunno |
| 06:10.05 | ceruleantiger | Kernel IP routing table: |
| 06:10.15 | Kevin` | ah |
| 06:10.18 | Kevin` | found |
| 06:10.21 | Kevin` | 3.5.4.1 |
| 06:10.32 | ceruleantiger | destination gateway genmask flags metric ref use Iface |
| 06:10.51 | ceruleantiger | 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 wlan0 |
| 06:10.58 | Kevin` | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:11.09 | ceruleantiger | 0.0.0.0 192.168.0.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 wlan0 |
| 06:11.26 | ceruleantiger | sorry to just spam the irc channel... there's really no way to cut/paste since I have no connection... |
| 06:11.33 | Kevin` | ceruleantiger that looks sane |
| 06:12.12 | ceruleantiger | I'm thinking that maybe since my router has 802.11g, maybe this zaurus is only capable of 802.11b |
| 06:12.22 | ceruleantiger | but my understanding was that these things were backwards compatible right? |
| 06:12.40 | Kevin` | heh I wonder if ssh+X+remote firefox would be faster then local |
| 06:12.43 | pgas | Kevin`: I forgot, use the feed browser linked in the topic |
| 06:12.43 | ceruleantiger | I mean, I see no option in my router to set it to 802.11b... so I'm assuming i tis... |
| 06:12.54 | pgas | ibot: paste? |
| 06:12.57 | ibot | rumour has it, paste is see http://paste.husk.org, or http://paste-it.net |
| 06:13.33 | pgas | Kevin`: it is a lot faster |
| 06:13.51 | pgas | ceruleantiger: can you ping 192.168.0.1? |
| 06:13.55 | ceruleantiger | nope |
| 06:13.58 | ceruleantiger | tried that |
| 06:14.07 | ceruleantiger | also can't ping my desktop (192.168.0.100) |
| 06:14.42 | ceruleantiger | I can ping localhost however :P |
| 06:15.44 | ceruleantiger | as I said, I'm really not a networking guy... even any shot-in-the-dark ideas would be appreciated... |
| 06:15.58 | pgas | ceruleantiger: I don't know how to help you :) I believe g routers have several modes b, b+g , g only |
| 06:16.06 | ceruleantiger | basically once I have an internet connection, I'm good to go... but I really didn't think it would be this hard :( |
| 06:16.31 | Kevin` | if dhcp works everything should work |
| 06:16.35 | Kevin` | it really is odd |
| 06:17.26 | ceruleantiger | yeah... I don't understand it at all... My only idea is that it has to be some sort of 802.11b vs 802.11g thing... |
| 06:17.39 | ceruleantiger | do you guys have 802.11g built in? |
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| 06:18.06 | Kevin` | I have an 802.11b cf card, prism2 |
| 06:18.27 | Kevin` | and a linksys ap, for that matter |
| 06:18.27 | ceruleantiger | and it works ok with a wireless-g router? |
| 06:18.32 | Kevin` | yes |
| 06:18.51 | Kevin` | using it now :) |
| 06:18.51 | ceruleantiger | shoot... are there any general networking irc channels? |
| 06:18.56 | ceruleantiger | heh |
| 06:19.11 | Kevin` | ##linux, #networking (maybe 2 ##) |
| 06:19.14 | ceruleantiger | never know... it could be a problem with the wireless |
| 06:19.28 | ceruleantiger | why two ##? What's the meaning of that? |
| 06:19.31 | Kevin` | if it was dhcp shouln't work |
| 06:19.51 | Kevin` | ceruleantiger 'about' channel, unnoficial |
| 06:20.05 | ceruleantiger | yeah... that's what I was thinking... maybe it worked intermittently? hmm... but then at least some packets would be getting through with ping... |
| 06:20.16 | pgas | perhaps check "dmesg" |
| 06:20.25 | Kevin` | indeed a good idea |
| 06:20.43 | Kevin` | what are you using for encryption, if any |
| 06:21.59 | ceruleantiger | I tried with encryption and couldn't get it to work, so right now it's temporarily unencrypted |
| 06:22.06 | ceruleantiger | it's as open as it gets... |
| 06:22.51 | Kevin` | im using wep, but I doubt the difference matters in this case |
| 06:22.55 | Kevin` | check dmesg? |
| 06:23.40 | ceruleantiger | dmesg says something about a whole bunch of dropped frames... |
| 06:24.16 | ceruleantiger | unfortunately I can't really get the whole message as it scrolls off the screen... I'd pipe it into less, but there seems to be no | on the keyboard |
| 06:24.28 | Kevin` | fn+l here |
| 06:24.32 | Kevin` | |||| :) |
| 06:24.53 | ceruleantiger | p80211knetdev_hard_start_xmit: Tx attempt prior to association frame dropped |
| 06:24.58 | ceruleantiger | < - repeated all over the screen |
| 06:25.38 | ceruleantiger | yeah... well if I'd known this was not a full keyboard, I would not have bought it... |
| 06:26.02 | Kevin` | I wonder if there's a hostap channel here somewhere |
| 06:26.03 | ceruleantiger | how can you survive as a linux pda maker without a control key?! That instantly throws emacs out |
| 06:26.26 | Kevin` | no control? |
| 06:26.35 | ceruleantiger | I pretty much have nothing |
| 06:26.48 | Kevin` | didnlt whoever say that one of the jap keys is ctrl? |
| 06:27.39 | ceruleantiger | there's no control, alt, |, {}[]^, f1, f2, f3... |
| 06:27.44 | ceruleantiger | what jap keys? |
| 06:28.12 | Kevin` | well I don't know how to pronouce them.. try things |
| 06:28.26 | Kevin` | and my model has ctrl by itself, heh |
| 06:28.27 | pgas | I believe there are no such key on a 6000 |
| 06:28.48 | ceruleantiger | soooo lucky :P |
| 06:28.55 | Kevin` | have to map one then.. ctrl is necessary |
| 06:29.26 | ceruleantiger | I can't map anything. all the fn possibilities are completely filled |
| 06:29.34 | Kevin` | those calender and whatever keys could do with a kicking :) |
| 06:29.52 | ceruleantiger | the only one I don't have is fn-z... I could map that to ctrl... but that would kind of be hard to do a ctrl-z :P |
| 06:29.53 | Kevin` | or does it have those? |
| 06:30.05 | ceruleantiger | oh, yeah I didn't really know what those did... |
| 06:30.26 | Kevin` | who cared what they did, ctrl is better :) |
| 06:30.39 | Kevin` | 'home' is used for sysrq though |
| 06:30.40 | ceruleantiger | there's cancel, ok, and 7 other buttons that I haven't really used... they're really big too... makes for good ctrl keys :) |
| 06:30.43 | Kevin` | dont remap that |
| 06:30.47 | ceruleantiger | what's sysrq? |
| 06:30.54 | ceruleantiger | haven't gotten that far in the tutorials yet :P |
| 06:31.06 | ceruleantiger | I believe at this point I am getting screwed on the pre-tutorial |
| 06:31.06 | ceruleantiger | heh |
| 06:31.40 | Kevin` | hm |
| 06:31.49 | Kevin` | how do you edit a file without ctrl |
| 06:31.58 | Kevin` | I suppose vi doesnt need it |
| 06:32.24 | ceruleantiger | you can't do anything without control |
| 06:32.36 | ceruleantiger | when I ping something, the only way to stop it is with ctrl-c... |
| 06:32.46 | Kevin` | ping -c4 |
| 06:32.51 | Kevin` | but yes |
| 06:32.56 | ceruleantiger | for those kinds of commands, I just have to close/reopen terminal every time |
| 06:33.24 | Kevin` | go map thyself a control key |
| 06:33.38 | ceruleantiger | can't... running the default stuff |
| 06:33.51 | ceruleantiger | first, I need to get wifi working, then I download the image, then install |
| 06:33.55 | ceruleantiger | then I map the key |
| 06:33.59 | Kevin` | hmm I just killes the ssh session firefox was using |
| 06:34.26 | Kevin` | ceruleantiger you cant write sd/cf cards from pc? |
| 06:34.50 | ceruleantiger | unfortunately my pc has no adapters for it |
| 06:35.03 | Kevin` | do you have a pcmcia slot? |
| 06:35.04 | ceruleantiger | it's custom built... and I honestly never saw a need for it |
| 06:35.10 | ceruleantiger | yeah |
| 06:35.23 | ceruleantiger | I should mention it's running linux, so I'm not too keen on buying new hardware |
| 06:35.27 | Kevin` | CF is pcmcia with a pin adapter |
| 06:35.33 | Kevin` | no electronic change |
| 06:35.34 | ceruleantiger | right now, it works beautifully... don't really wanna mess with it too much |
| 06:35.49 | ceruleantiger | that's what my pda/laptop are for :) |
| 06:36.45 | pgas | can't you connect to your pc via usb? |
| 06:36.45 | Kevin` | heres to hoping you dont mess up the install and need to change the data on the card :) |
| 06:36.46 | ceruleantiger | oh hey, there's a usb port on here |
| 06:36.59 | Kevin` | pgas has a good point |
| 06:37.16 | ceruleantiger | ok, well I don't know why I'm wasting your time then... |
| 06:37.26 | ceruleantiger | I totally did not notice that... it's kinda hidden |
| 06:37.44 | Kevin` | does the 6000 do host usb? |
| 06:37.53 | pgas | yes |
| 06:37.57 | ceruleantiger | well if I get no wifi, I guess I'm not thrilled about it... but I can always hope openzaurus will connect to internet better |
| 06:38.14 | ceruleantiger | so I can write directly to CF from my desktop as if it were a usb drive? |
| 06:38.27 | Kevin` | ceruleantiger I believe so, |
| 06:38.41 | Kevin` | I only used the default os for a few hours |
| 06:38.44 | ceruleantiger | sweet... now to find an adapter cable :) |
| 06:38.50 | ceruleantiger | you lasted longer than me :P |
| 06:39.04 | Kevin` | well I did a lenghty backup) |
| 06:39.08 | ceruleantiger | I played around with it for 15 minutes before deciding it wasn't nerdy enough for me |
| 06:39.31 | Kevin` | I knew before I got it I would put something else on it |
| 06:39.41 | Kevin` | I dont read japanese, after all :) |
| 06:39.42 | ceruleantiger | but then again, I'm the type of person who cannot resist dissassembling everything from computers to cars to even my windows |
| 06:40.24 | ceruleantiger | ok, well thanks guys |
| 06:40.33 | Kevin` | np |
| 06:40.51 | ceruleantiger | I guess I'll work on getting the openzaurus install down tommorow. I'm sure I'll have more problems, so I'll most likely be back! |
| 06:40.58 | Kevin` | :) |
| 06:41.08 | ceruleantiger | well, I'm out - g'night |
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| 06:44.20 | Kevin` | k now help me find this kernel module :) |
| 06:49.38 | pgas | http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/fb/?action=details&pnm=iptables ... |
| 06:50.25 | Kevin` | for 2.6? |
| 06:50.35 | pgas | maybe in the modules tar http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/mirror/www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.4.1/images/spitz/misc/ ? |
| 06:51.49 | pgas | http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/mirror/www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.4.1/feed/machine/spitz/ |
| 06:51.55 | pgas | here probably |
| 06:52.12 | Kevin` | so many long urls to copy wit stylus |
| 06:52.30 | pgas | ehe wait a sec |
| 06:52.52 | pgas | http://tinyurl.com/mla3n |
| 06:53.42 | Kevin` | well I got them all now, heh.. do that for future ones :) |
| 06:54.16 | Kevin` | I dont see an iptab* in the last url |
| 06:55.43 | pgas | hmm are you sure they are not installed by default? |
| 06:56.14 | Kevin` | well iptables does not function.. |
| 06:56.58 | pgas | hmmm, in task-bootstrap i see kernel-ip-tables but no such package |
| 06:57.05 | Kevin` | kevin@kwzs:~/dl$ tar tf modules-2.6.16-spitz.tgz |grep ipta |
| 06:57.07 | Kevin` | kevin@kwzs:~/dl$ |
| 06:57.10 | Kevin` | :/ |
| 06:57.13 | pgas | I guess it's time to wait for hrw|gone :) |
| 06:57.19 | NAbyss | Kevin`: shouldn't that be tfz? |
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| 06:57.40 | Kevin` | NAbyss new tar does it automagically for uz lazys |
| 06:58.02 | NAbyss | ah |
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| 07:45.54 | hrw|work | morning |
| 07:46.10 | hrw|work | iptables will be in next kernel update |
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| 11:30.19 | ufoz | hi all. |
| 11:31.01 | ufoz | i got a zaurus 5500. i used opie and gpe images. all worked fine |
| 11:31.10 | ufoz | now, i read about bringing the root fs to a sd card. |
| 11:31.32 | ufoz | means that i can flash my coolie without a initrd ? |
| 11:38.11 | hrw|work | no |
| 11:38.22 | ufoz | hi hrw|work |
| 11:38.37 | ufoz | simple question. howto install gpe with less amount of memroy |
| 11:39.02 | ufoz | i can use a sd card to boot from. but, will there be a altboot if i just install the zImage ? |
| 11:39.12 | ufoz | i quess no |
| 11:39.43 | hrw|work | you need to install initrd and kernel |
| 11:40.10 | ufoz | kk. so why should i install it on a sd ? |
| 11:42.02 | hrw|work | read altboot doc in OZ wiki |
| 11:42.21 | ufoz | yes i read it. i would have more spacfe for applications |
| 11:42.32 | ufoz | but there is only one thing i cant get clear for me |
| 11:43.23 | ufoz | during flash prcess: the kernel goes to the flash memory of my sharpi, and also the initrd goes there. so it is in there |
| 11:43.29 | ufoz | and uses space |
| 11:43.57 | ufoz | and if i use altboot to make a rootfs on another card, it still will be in the flash ? |
| 11:44.08 | ufoz | so where is the advanteg |
| 11:48.33 | pgas | you don't have to make all the symlinks in /, / can be as big as you want, you can switch between gpe and opie rootfs at boot (but you still use the same kernel), you can try some things in a rootfs and reboot in your stable environement.... |
| 11:49.23 | ufoz | oh i see |
| 11:50.24 | ufoz | maybe one thing you could tell me. if i want to install software on the sd card (ext2) what do i have to setup ? |
| 11:50.54 | pgas | having the / in flash? |
| 11:51.24 | ufoz | well, after installation i have only 2.1 mb free space in internal flash |
| 11:51.27 | ufoz | ist that normal ? |
| 11:51.58 | ufoz | and it is mounted to / |
| 11:52.17 | pgas | I think it's normal yes |
| 11:52.31 | pgas | use ipkg -d sd install package |
| 11:52.40 | pgas | then ipkg-link add package |
| 11:52.48 | pgas | or ipkg-link mount sd |
| 11:52.56 | ufoz | yes i already did this some time. it worked all for me. but for beginners it is a little hard to undert |
| 11:52.59 | ufoz | stand |
| 11:53.32 | ufoz | ist there still a problem with glibc ? |
| 11:53.50 | ufoz | wich has to be protected ? |
| 11:53.53 | pgas | ipkg-link will create symlinks from your package files to / so that the package appears in / even if the files are on the card |
| 11:55.47 | ufoz | oehm, if i make a ipkg update && ipkg upgrade, will all the things be updatet on the card or where |
| 11:55.54 | ufoz | sorry for that much questions |
| 11:56.43 | pgas | yes, but you'll need to run ipkg-link (in case a package provides some new files ) |
| 11:56.58 | pgas | and the kernel is not updated with ipkg |
| 11:58.49 | ufoz | i also used ipkg-link before. in other words. packages wich are in / will be updated there. packages on sd will be updatet there |
| 11:59.15 | pgas | no |
| 11:59.26 | pgas | all the packages will be updated |
| 11:59.35 | pgas | but the symlinks will stay as they were |
| 11:59.42 | ufoz | aaaah |
| 12:00.02 | ufoz | but if i have a fresh install of 3.5.4 on my 5500 and make a upgrade |
| 12:00.28 | pgas | ie perhaps ipkg unmount sd (not sure about the syntax) is better before ipkg upgrade |
| 12:01.14 | ufoz | okay thank you alot |
| 12:06.04 | ufoz | well, just upgrading, and i have only 0.3 mb internal flash memory left, and i think it hangs |
| 12:06.51 | ufoz | what i doo wrong |
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| 13:01.32 | hrhr | hi all |
| 13:02.08 | hrhr | hrw|work: have the OZ xmodmap for russian language? |
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| 13:31.42 | ufoz | hmpf |
| 13:31.54 | ufoz | anybody knows whereto put pak0.pak for quake1 to run ? |
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| 13:35.58 | lardman | ufoz: Probably in the same directory |
| 13:36.28 | lardman | ufoz: Let me know whether you get an SDL parachute after you pick up the ammo (iirc) |
| 13:36.50 | lardman | ufoz: I never got round to sorting that out, feel free to do some debugging if it still happens |
| 13:37.32 | lardman | ufoz: If putting the file in the same dir doesn't work, run it from the command line and it should complain about not finding the .pak file and give you a path |
| 13:37.58 | ufoz | negative |
| 13:38.50 | kerwood | hrw|work: I installed the new kernel update on my terrier |
| 13:38.50 | kerwood | hrw|work: I tried to force the MaxPower dmesg message using a 200 mA USB memory stick, but I got the same behavior as before |
| 13:38.50 | kerwood | hrw|work: device is silently left unconfigured; should I enter a bug? |
| 13:39.08 | ufoz | i got playing sharewae version, and then it cant find gfx.wad |
| 13:40.13 | lardman | ufoz: I think I was testing with the shareware version too |
| 13:40.45 | ufoz | the pak files are compresses or i am wrong ? |
| 13:40.57 | lardman | ufoz: Yet, they're .zip files iirc |
| 13:41.04 | lardman | s/Yet/Yep |
| 13:41.07 | ufoz | iirc ? |
| 13:41.09 | ufoz | whats that |
| 13:41.17 | lardman | if i remember correctly |
| 13:41.19 | ufoz | is that slang ?` |
| 13:41.22 | ufoz | oh |
| 13:41.28 | ufoz | so i will ned zip |
| 13:41.29 | ufoz | maybe |
| 13:43.04 | ufoz | or they will have build in decompression what would be the normal way |
| 13:44.57 | ufoz | well ist is not working for me |
| 13:51.15 | lardman | ufoz: It's a standard shortened form, just like afaik |
| 13:51.30 | lardman | ufoz: The compression stuff should be built in |
| 13:51.58 | lardman | zlib to be exact |
| 13:55.20 | lardman | ufoz: Use the -path switch on the command line to give the path to the .pak kile |
| 13:56.00 | ufoz | realy |
| 13:56.04 | ufoz | there is one ? |
| 13:56.24 | lardman | try ./quake --help |
| 13:56.41 | ufoz | oha |
| 13:57.03 | ufoz | no that not works with --help |
| 13:57.08 | ufoz | but i got another faulier now |
| 13:57.52 | ufoz | you must have registered version to use modified games |
| 13:57.54 | ufoz | hmm |
| 13:57.59 | ufoz | wer i can get the pak |
| 13:58.06 | ufoz | maybe mine is not the right |
| 13:58.11 | ufoz | lardman, |
| 13:58.25 | lardman | you need a kosher copy of Quake in that case |
| 13:58.39 | ufoz | i have a orginal quake 1 cd |
| 13:58.40 | ufoz | but |
| 13:58.42 | ufoz | dont know |
| 13:58.47 | lardman | hmm |
| 14:00.04 | lardman | I think that whatever new level pak file you're using probably doesn't include all of the stuff from the original |
| 14:00.12 | lardman | therefore you need to ensure that the original is also read in |
| 14:00.38 | ufoz | ah all that is stiupid anywaa |
| 14:00.39 | ufoz | y |
| 14:00.48 | ufoz | why playing quake on a 200 mhz handheld |
| 14:01.40 | hrw|work | because it is possible? |
| 14:02.13 | ufoz | it seems that it is not possible |
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| 14:03.58 | lardman_ | ~lart my network connection |
| 14:04.10 | lardman_ | ufoz: You still there? |
| 14:04.23 | lardman_ | ufoz: Take a look at this thread for the command line: http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=12420&hl= |
| 14:04.23 | kerwood | hrw|work: I can't get any message in dmesg from a USB device requiring excessive current |
| 14:04.23 | kerwood | hrw|work: unless you can suggest something I'm doing wrong, I'll submit an OE bug |
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| 14:04.49 | hrw|work | mail reply also |
| 14:05.19 | lardman_ | Anyone know how I boot my alter-ego and get my name back? |
| 14:05.47 | kerwood | hrw|work: do you mean you want a cc: of the bug report sent to you? |
| 14:06.10 | hrw|work | lardman_: talk with nickserv a bit |
| 14:06.28 | lardman_ | hrw|work: Okay, thanks |
| 14:06.42 | hrw|work | kerwood: you found a bug after reading my mail. replying to mail would be usefull |
| 14:07.49 | kerwood | hrw|work: ok, sorry I wasn't paying close attention... will do |
| 14:07.55 | hrw|work | thx |
| 14:18.07 | ufoz | lardman, not working for me |
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| 14:18.13 | ufoz | well, dont know what is happening here |
| 14:21.41 | lardman | ufoz: Have you tried the vanilla quake pak file, rather than an add-on? |
| 14:22.15 | ufoz | huh |
| 14:22.34 | ufoz | i installed using the openzaurus feeds |
| 14:24.38 | lardman | yes, but that's only the binary |
| 14:25.09 | lardman | you also need a pak file, and you were saying that you were trying something other than the original one iirc |
| 14:25.39 | ufoz | i downlaoded the one wich were described in the last link you gave me |
| 14:26.07 | ufoz | aaah |
| 14:26.09 | ufoz | lardman |
| 14:26.14 | ufoz | now i found someting |
| 14:26.23 | ufoz | oh no |
| 14:26.41 | lardman | sounds ominous |
| 14:27.16 | ufoz | case sensitive ? |
| 14:27.48 | lardman | what in particular? Linux is of course |
| 14:28.07 | lardman | place your .pak files in /usr/share/quake and run: |
| 14:28.13 | lardman | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:29.26 | ufoz | i got oha |
| 14:29.36 | ufoz | now there is a sementation fault |
| 14:38.01 | lardman | ufoz: When you startup or when you pick up the ammo? |
| 14:38.30 | ufoz | when i start up |
| 14:38.31 | lardman | ufoz: Add -noudp to the command line |
| 14:38.36 | ufoz | aha |
| 14:41.11 | ufoz | well , now it started |
| 14:41.19 | lardman | yay! |
| 14:41.38 | ufoz | selected a new game |
| 14:42.00 | ufoz | so when it crashes by you ? |
| 14:42.55 | lardman | wander along into what I think is a prison block, turn left then on the back wall (now to your right) there's somehting to pick up |
| 14:43.07 | lardman | it crashes when you walk over/pick up this item |
| 14:46.07 | ufoz | wich episode |
| 14:46.16 | lardman | first one |
| 14:46.28 | lardman | takes about 10 seconds from starting to get there |
| 14:46.32 | lardman | if that |
| 14:47.11 | ufoz | k, i am in first episode first level |
| 14:47.14 | lardman | hmm, unless I was playing the demo that is.... |
| 14:47.17 | ufoz | than there is left a elevator |
| 14:50.49 | lardman | Sorry, it's been a while, plus I'd never even played if before adding it to OE |
| 14:51.09 | lardman | See how it works, if there're no problems then that'd ideal :) |
| 14:51.10 | ufoz | it works here now |
| 14:51.25 | ufoz | i finished the first level nearly |
| 14:55.48 | starkruzr | hey guys. |
| 14:56.18 | starkruzr | anyone have any trouble with the latest OZ images causing CF cards to stop working on Akitas? |
| 14:56.39 | starkruzr | ever since I upgraded my WLAN card doesn't even turn on when I insert it. |
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| 16:02.25 | RP | starkruzr: Do CF memory cards work? |
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| 17:05.43 | starkruzr | RP: unfortunately I don't have any access to any other CF devices. troubleshooting is going ot be difficult. |
| 17:05.46 | starkruzr | to |
| 17:08.35 | RP | starkruzr: Can you borrow a memory card from a friend to try and iosolate the problem? |
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| 17:15.24 | ufoz_ | oehm. i installed icewm. how i can set this up |
| 17:15.37 | ufoz_ | do i have to modify the Xinitirc |
| 17:15.42 | ufoz_ | or something like that |
| 17:16.34 | ufoz_ | or is it possible to use a login manager |
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| 19:37.16 | meebey | hi all, I have a zaurus SL600-L (tosa) and I am interested in installing OpenZaurus 3.5.4, though I am afraid I break my expensive personal mobile tool in some way that doesn't allow any kind of recovery |
| 19:37.17 | meebey | so is there some kind point-of-no-return? |
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| 20:40.40 | ufoz_ | okay a new one |
| 20:40.51 | ufoz_ | snex9x need xfree86-dga |
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| 21:39.49 | meebey | is it a problem if the SD/CF card that I use for flashing contains a partion table + vfat? |
| 21:40.05 | meebey | or do I need to write the vfat fs directly to the card without a partition? |
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| 21:42.15 | hvontres|poodle | meebey: I think the Card you use for flasing needs to be Fat-16 not vfat |
| 21:42.32 | meebey | hvontres|poodle: hm, ok I will use that then |
| 21:42.37 | meebey | should not hurt |
| 21:43.00 | meebey | I was almost going to say that this channel is even more active than #debian-arm :) |
| 21:43.10 | hvontres|poodle | meebey: Partition table should be fine tho. |
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| 21:43.58 | hvontres|poodle | it's getting close to Bed time for those guys on the east side of the pond :) |
| 21:44.17 | meebey | :) |
| 21:51.26 | CoreDump|home | hi |
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| 21:56.17 | meebey | when do I need to press power+ok for flash? when it shows the sharp logo? |
| 21:56.34 | meebey | I press, but it boots the kernel instead of going in that menu |
| 21:57.26 | hrw | meebey: hold OK, push RESET, release RESET, press Power (still holding OK) |
| 21:58.02 | meebey | I will try that |
| 21:58.09 | meebey | the online docs doesnt say that though for the SL600 |
| 21:58.10 | meebey | +0 |
| 21:59.15 | meebey | got it |
| 21:59.25 | meebey | thanks |
| 21:59.39 | hrw | then you can fix them |
| 21:59.42 | hrw | its wiki ;) |
| 21:59.49 | meebey | :) |
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| 22:01.58 | meebey | I saw an error saying "SD card not found" Error(1) |
| 22:02.15 | meebey | also got a message that a usb module wasnt found before that |
| 22:02.30 | meebey | is the sd/cf card reader connected via usb? |
| 22:02.47 | meebey | after that it boots the sharprom again |
| 22:02.49 | Hrww | no |
| 22:03.20 | meebey | hm I used mkfs.msdos /dev/mmcda |
| 22:03.30 | meebey | then mounted it, copied the data (3 files) and did the update |
| 22:03.44 | meebey | but for some reason it had problems to find/mount it |
| 22:04.14 | Hrww | ;( |
| 22:05.20 | hvontres|poodle | meebey: I think you need run fdisk and re-partition you SD card and then run mkfs.msdos /dec/mmcda1 |
| 22:05.43 | hvontres|poodle | s/dec/dev |
| 22:06.12 | meebey | oh it needs a partion? :) |
| 22:06.23 | meebey | I thought it wants some original state of the SD card |
| 22:06.27 | meebey | so I thought no partiontable |
| 22:09.07 | CoreDump|home | meebey: the original state for most (all?) SD / CF cards is one partition (1) spanning the entire media |
| 22:09.16 | meebey | ah ok :) |
| 22:11.10 | hrw|work | cu |
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| 22:12.19 | hvontres|poodle | ~help |
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| 22:22.52 | Pimpi | hi |
| 22:24.16 | Pimpi | i?m just reading through the OZ installaton docs, whats actally the RAM devoted to storage space needed for? |
| 22:24.50 | Pimpi | and whats a good choice for a sl5500? |
| 22:25.18 | meebey | it flashes now |
| 22:25.44 | CoreDump|home | Pimpi: if you have a SD or CF storage card, use all 64MB for Ram |
| 22:26.04 | Pimpi | CoreDump|home: ok, ty |
| 22:26.11 | CoreDump|home | np |
| 22:26.14 | hobbs | and if you don't, enjoy a really useless sort of device ;) |
| 22:26.45 | CoreDump|home | hobbs: hehe *cough* poodle *cough* |
| 22:29.48 | hvontres|poodle | CoreDump|home: hey !!!!! |
| 22:30.07 | CoreDump|home | ;) |
| 22:30.35 | meebey | it flashed, weee |
| 22:30.36 | hvontres|poodle | root@poodle:~# free |
| 22:30.36 | hvontres|poodle | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:30.36 | hvontres|poodle | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:30.36 | hvontres|poodle | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:30.38 | CoreDump|home | well, a Collie w/ 32MB RAM == Poodle w/o mike |
| 22:30.39 | meebey | GPE 2.7 boots |
| 22:30.53 | CoreDump|home | swap =D |
| 22:31.26 | CoreDump|home | hvontres|poodle: when I ran my tests, Poodle was OOM at the GPE login |
| 22:31.26 | hvontres|poodle | That is with opie tho....GPE is a whole different story :( |
| 22:31.41 | meebey | seems to take a loong time to boot |
| 22:31.43 | CoreDump|home | yeah, Opie runs ok on it |
| 22:31.49 | meebey | how long should I wait? :) |
| 22:32.12 | CoreDump|home | meebey: ~5min |
| 22:32.19 | hvontres|poodle | meebey: a while, it needs to go through and configure a bunch of packages |
| 22:32.23 | CoreDump|home | after that you can be sure it's hung |
| 22:32.30 | meebey | oh its first time init |
| 22:32.32 | meebey | saw ssh keygen |
| 22:33.48 | meebey | sexy |
| 22:33.59 | meebey | ah first gtk dialog, I love gtk |
| 22:35.51 | hvontres|poodle | CoreDump|home: Possible memory upgrade for ~150 EUR: http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=21547 |
| 22:36.36 | CoreDump|home | hvontres|poodle: the "best" upgrade for a Poodle would be to buy a VGA Z, really =) |
| 22:36.54 | CoreDump|home | the screen is sooooo bloody good |
| 22:37.38 | hvontres|poodle | CoreDump|home: but that would be too easy :) Plus, right now I don't want to spend ~$300 on another PDA |
| 22:37.55 | hvontres|poodle | ~lart BGA chips |
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| 23:36.18 | sirius | wow |
| 23:36.22 | sirius | OZ is pretty neat |
| 23:36.26 | sirius | now how do i get a web browser? |
| 23:36.35 | JustinP | install one, of course |
| 23:36.42 | sirius | which one is best? |
| 23:36.52 | sirius | i wouldn't mind opera |
| 23:37.01 | sirius | konq embedded is kinda cludgy |
| 23:39.54 | JustinP | firefox is best, of course |
| 23:40.03 | JustinP | but it's X, not Opie |
| 23:40.59 | sirius | hmm i cant seem to get internet time in OZ |
| 23:41.07 | sirius | what time server should i use? |
| 23:41.11 | sirius | im using pool.ntp.org |
| 23:41.13 | sirius | :( |
| 23:41.53 | hvontres|poodle | sirius: pool.ntp.org works for me...is your connection up? |
| 23:42.02 | sirius | yep |
| 23:42.11 | hvontres|poodle | ntpdate pool.ntp.org |
| 23:42.12 | hvontres|poodle | Looking for host pool.ntp.org and service ntp |
| 23:42.12 | hvontres|poodle | host found : ntp1.us.grundclock.com |
| 23:42.14 | hvontres|poodle | 26 Sep 23:42:04 ntpdate[7405]: step time server 216.52.237.153 offset 22.699472 sec |
| 23:42.21 | sirius | hmm |
| 23:43.01 | sirius | may be my crappy neighbours firewall |
| 23:43.08 | hvontres|poodle | is dns working? |
| 23:43.23 | hvontres|poodle | sirius: are you "borrowing" wifi again? |
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| 23:43.42 | sirius | oh wait ping google.com isnt getting me anything |
| 23:43.48 | sirius | so i guess dns is down> |
| 23:43.49 | sirius | ? |
| 23:43.58 | sirius | yeah hostname lookup failure |
| 23:43.58 | sirius | wtf |
| 23:44.16 | hvontres|poodle | check to see if /etc/resolv.conf is empty or not |
| 23:44.32 | hvontres|poodle | if it is , add your nameserver |
| 23:44.43 | sirius | nope |
| 23:45.09 | hvontres|poodle | can you ping your nameserver? |
| 23:45.42 | sirius | oooh |
| 23:45.49 | sirius | shit im an idiot |
| 23:45.54 | sirius | i was using kismet earlier |
| 23:45.56 | sirius | <--- tard |
| 23:46.27 | hvontres|poodle | ~sirius for being a tard |
| 23:46.31 | sirius | oh and how do i do a ctrl-c ? |
| 23:46.34 | sirius | on a 5500? |
| 23:46.35 | sirius | lol |
| 23:46.56 | hvontres|poodle | ~lart me for being a tard |
| 23:47.12 | hvontres|poodle | are you at a console window? |
| 23:47.16 | sirius | yes |
| 23:47.17 | hvontres|poodle | try fn-c |
| 23:47.58 | sirius | gotcha |
| 23:52.22 | sirius | sooo |
| 23:52.25 | sirius | now that OZ is working |
| 23:52.31 | sirius | what els eshould i install? |
| 23:53.48 | hvontres|poodle | are you on opie or GPE? |
| 23:55.01 | sirius | opie |
| 23:55.31 | sirius | sl-5500 using the 64-0 and loopback 100mb root on sd |
| 23:55.43 | sirius | 64-0 config |
| 23:56.46 | hvontres|poodle | well, I use xmms-embedded for my media player and kopi for my calender app |
| 23:57.26 | sirius | hrmm k |
| 23:58.51 | hvontres|poodle | other than that, I pretty much run a standard hentges setup..ohh I totally forgot about Zudoku...:) |